SPTF Price Check Guide [PCG] & Price Inquiry Thread
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^that's tl;dr
Longer version here:
In old times pvp was influencing trading far more than people might expect. There was a pool of wealthy people that were ready to splurge retarded amount of wealth to get that 0.1% improvement on their characters and they were mostly into pvp (grip nulio me colony etc). So in weird twist of irony for the time being assassin trap skill charms with life were worth more than chilling or sparkling ones because everyone was pimping their assassins.
Anyway, 1.08 HLW is just item like that. It improves bowazons by small fraction (slightly higher dmg and nice LR and it's absolutely great for shapeshifters that don't benefit from any off weapon IAS but FRW is mandatory so they can catch with their teleporting targets or WW barbs that's don't need off weapon IAS too) and you cannot force it to drop in any patch. It is absurdly grindy and you really need to bash your head in wall until it drops (odds are 1 : 16541 on Andariel or 1 : 21217 on Mephisto which are two most popular targets).
So I can go and fairly reliably get 1.07 Shako with 1 : 1000 odds in 15 sec runs, or once in a lifetime getting beta BKWBs with 1 : 2500 odds but 1 : 16500 is off the charts especially given how little this item can impact your characters overall.
So all I can say is, thanks >_>
Longer version here:
In old times pvp was influencing trading far more than people might expect. There was a pool of wealthy people that were ready to splurge retarded amount of wealth to get that 0.1% improvement on their characters and they were mostly into pvp (grip nulio me colony etc). So in weird twist of irony for the time being assassin trap skill charms with life were worth more than chilling or sparkling ones because everyone was pimping their assassins.
Anyway, 1.08 HLW is just item like that. It improves bowazons by small fraction (slightly higher dmg and nice LR and it's absolutely great for shapeshifters that don't benefit from any off weapon IAS but FRW is mandatory so they can catch with their teleporting targets or WW barbs that's don't need off weapon IAS too) and you cannot force it to drop in any patch. It is absurdly grindy and you really need to bash your head in wall until it drops (odds are 1 : 16541 on Andariel or 1 : 21217 on Mephisto which are two most popular targets).
So I can go and fairly reliably get 1.07 Shako with 1 : 1000 odds in 15 sec runs, or once in a lifetime getting beta BKWBs with 1 : 2500 odds but 1 : 16500 is off the charts especially given how little this item can impact your characters overall.
So all I can say is, thanks >_>
Highlord's Wrath
Amulet
Required Level: 65
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 90
Fingerprint: 0x5ed3e1de
Lightning Resist +35%
Adds 5-20 lightning damage
30% Faster Run/Walk
+1 to All Skill Levels
37% Deadly Strike (Based on Character Level)
Amulet
Required Level: 65
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 90
Fingerprint: 0x5ed3e1de
Lightning Resist +35%
Adds 5-20 lightning damage
30% Faster Run/Walk
+1 to All Skill Levels
37% Deadly Strike (Based on Character Level)
@entwilighter and I agreed to value the following 1.07 charm (for use in LLD) as a 1.14d Sur rune giving it a TV of 11.
Code:
Prefix 847 Grand Charm of Quality
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 22
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 55
Fingerprint: 0x3176729
+27 to Maximum Damage
@D2DC Few suggestions that could be added in the list.
1. Tokens were valued at 20Pgems in the old forums (5Pgems per essence) so that would give them a value of 1TV.
Personally, I think the Andy/ Memp essences could worth less while the Dia/Baal more but the final TV would stay the same.
Something like this:
Essence of Suffering - 2 Pgems
Essence of Hatred - 3 Pgems
Essence of Terror - 7 Pgems
Essence of Destruction - 8 Pgems
Token - 20 Pgems / 1 TV
2. Gheeds should be added in the list!
I can't seem to find any information about Gheeds value so in comparison to the small MF charms my assumption would be:
Low / High Roll - 2TV / 5 TV
Perfect - 10 TV
3. Perhaps a Runeword list should exist too.
Grief's value can vary too much and since we had a recent trade with it we should enlist it!
Low roll 340 ED / 30% - 3TV
Average Roll 370 ED / 35% - 10 or 12TV
High Roll 390 ED / 38% - 40 TV
Perfect Roll - ?TV
1. Tokens were valued at 20Pgems in the old forums (5Pgems per essence) so that would give them a value of 1TV.
Personally, I think the Andy/ Memp essences could worth less while the Dia/Baal more but the final TV would stay the same.
Something like this:
Essence of Suffering - 2 Pgems
Essence of Hatred - 3 Pgems
Essence of Terror - 7 Pgems
Essence of Destruction - 8 Pgems
Token - 20 Pgems / 1 TV
2. Gheeds should be added in the list!
I can't seem to find any information about Gheeds value so in comparison to the small MF charms my assumption would be:
Low / High Roll - 2TV / 5 TV
Perfect - 10 TV
3. Perhaps a Runeword list should exist too.
Grief's value can vary too much and since we had a recent trade with it we should enlist it!
Low roll 340 ED / 30% - 3TV
Average Roll 370 ED / 35% - 10 or 12TV
High Roll 390 ED / 38% - 40 TV
Perfect Roll - ?TV
@d2lover they are on there. Or, are you talking about in 1.07?
@Excalibur I love the additions. Added them under the historical examples section. If we can get a bit of input/consensus from other members, I will add everything into the "agreed upon values" lists.
@Excalibur I love the additions. Added them under the historical examples section. If we can get a bit of input/consensus from other members, I will add everything into the "agreed upon values" lists.
I acquired the information from the 1.07 items listed in the PCG so players can spot the differences.
The readouts are from 1.14 and in the parenthesis with orange color are the changes from the 1.07.
I think it's nice to have this gathered in one place.
Vampire Gaze
+6-8% Mana Stolen Per Hit (8%)
+6-8% Life Stolen Per Hit (8%)
15% Slower Stamina Drain
Physical Damage Taken Reduced by 15-20% (25%)
Magical Damage Taken Reduced by 10-15 (15)
+100% Enhanced Defense
Adds 6-22 Cold Damage, 4 Seconds Cold Length (doesn't exist)
Harlequin Crest
+2 to All Skills
+1.5 Life per clvl (+40% Maximum Life)
+1.5 Mana per clvl (doesn't exist)
+50% Better chance of getting magical item
Physical Damage Taken Reduced by 10% (doesn't exist)
+2 to all stats (doesn't exist)
Indestructible
So basically this is what a 1.07 Shako looks like.
Harlequin Crest
Indestructible
+100% Enhanced Defense
Increase Maximum Life 40%
50% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
+2 to All Skills
1.14
Valkyrie Wing
+2 to Amazon Skill Levels
+20% Faster Run/Walk
+20% Faster Hit Recovery
+172% Enhanced Defense
+2 to Mana after each Kill
1.07
Valkyrie Wing
+35 Defense
30% Increased Attack Speed
30% Faster Run/Walk
30% Faster Hit Recovery
30% Faster Cast Rate
Skullder's Ire
+1 to All Skills
+1.25% Better chance of getting magical items per clvl
+160-200% Enhanced Defense (+200%)
+60 Increased Durability
Magical Damage Taken Reduced by 10 (25)
Repairs 1 Durability every 5 seconds (every 4 seconds)
+30 to Vitality
Arkaine's Valor
+150-180% Enhanced Defense (+200%)
30% Faster Hit Recovery
+1-2 to All Skills (+2)
Damage Taken Reduced By 10-15
+0.5 Vitality per Clvl (+2.5 Vitality per Clvl)
+2 To Life per Clvl
Indestructible
Fire Resist +50%
So basically this is what a 1.07 Arkaine's Valor looks like.
Arkaine's Valor
Indestructible
+200% Enhanced Defense
Fire Resist +50%
30% Faster Hit Recovery
+2 to All Skill Levels
+160 to Life (Based on Character Level)
+200 to Vitality (Based on Character Level)
Raven Claw
50% Bonus to Attack Rating
+3 to Dexterity
Fires Slvl 3 Explosive Arrows or Bolts (lvl 33 when forwarded to 1.10+ <-- not sure about this one)
+3 to Strength
+60-70% Enhanced Damage
WizardSpike
+2 Mana per Clvl
+15% Mana Regen
+15% to Maximum Mana
All Resistances +75 (All Resistances +95)
Indestructible
50% Faster Cast Rate
Laying of Hands
10% Chance to cast level 3 Holy Bolt on striking
+20% Increased Attack Speed
+350% Damage to Demons
+25 Defense
Fire Resist +50% ( Fire Absorb 50% )
Below are the stats of items in 1.10a Beta
For the runewords, I read that they must be in 1.10s beta. I have no idea, so if someone can confirm that would be great.
Bul-Kathos' Wedding Band
+0.5 Life per Clvl
+1 to All Skills (+2 to All Skills)
+3-5% Life Stolen Per Hit
+50 Stamina
Call To Arms
+1 to all skills (+2 to all skills)
level 1-6 Battle Orders (level 5-15)
level 2-6 Battle Command (level 5-20)
level 1-4 Battle Cry (level 10-13)
in case it looks better to have it seperated
Call To Arms 1.10 beta
+2 to all skills
level 5-15 Battle Orders
level 5-20 Battle Command
level 10-13 Battle Cry
Bramble
Level 15-21 Thorns Aura When Equipped
+50% Faster Hit Recovery
+25-50% To Poison Skill Damage (+69-207% To Poison Skill Damage)
+300 Defense
Increase Maximum Mana 5%
Regenerate Mana 15%
+5% To Maximum Cold Resist
Fire Resist +30%
Poison Resist +100%
+13 Life After Each Kill
Level 13 Spirit of Barbs (33 Charges)
Crescent Moon
10% Chance To Cast Level 17 Chain Lightning On Striking
7% Chance To Cast Level 13 Static Field On Striking (20% Chance To Cast)
+20% Increased Attack Speed
+180-220% Enhanced Damage (220-260% Enhanced Damage)
Ignore Target's Defense
-35% To Enemy Lightning Resist
25% Chance of Open Wounds
+9-11 Magic Absorb
+2 To Mana After Each Kill
Level 18 Summon Spirit Wolf (30 Charges)
Great weapon for Merc especially in a 1.07 base.
The readouts are from 1.14 and in the parenthesis with orange color are the changes from the 1.07.
I think it's nice to have this gathered in one place.
Vampire Gaze
+6-8% Mana Stolen Per Hit (8%)
+6-8% Life Stolen Per Hit (8%)
15% Slower Stamina Drain
Physical Damage Taken Reduced by 15-20% (25%)
Magical Damage Taken Reduced by 10-15 (15)
+100% Enhanced Defense
Adds 6-22 Cold Damage, 4 Seconds Cold Length (doesn't exist)
Harlequin Crest
+2 to All Skills
+1.5 Life per clvl (+40% Maximum Life)
+1.5 Mana per clvl (doesn't exist)
+50% Better chance of getting magical item
Physical Damage Taken Reduced by 10% (doesn't exist)
+2 to all stats (doesn't exist)
Indestructible
So basically this is what a 1.07 Shako looks like.
Harlequin Crest
Indestructible
+100% Enhanced Defense
Increase Maximum Life 40%
50% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
+2 to All Skills
1.14
Valkyrie Wing
+2 to Amazon Skill Levels
+20% Faster Run/Walk
+20% Faster Hit Recovery
+172% Enhanced Defense
+2 to Mana after each Kill
1.07
Valkyrie Wing
+35 Defense
30% Increased Attack Speed
30% Faster Run/Walk
30% Faster Hit Recovery
30% Faster Cast Rate
Skullder's Ire
+1 to All Skills
+1.25% Better chance of getting magical items per clvl
+160-200% Enhanced Defense (+200%)
+60 Increased Durability
Magical Damage Taken Reduced by 10 (25)
Repairs 1 Durability every 5 seconds (every 4 seconds)
+30 to Vitality
Arkaine's Valor
+150-180% Enhanced Defense (+200%)
30% Faster Hit Recovery
+1-2 to All Skills (+2)
Damage Taken Reduced By 10-15
+0.5 Vitality per Clvl (+2.5 Vitality per Clvl)
+2 To Life per Clvl
Indestructible
Fire Resist +50%
So basically this is what a 1.07 Arkaine's Valor looks like.
Arkaine's Valor
Indestructible
+200% Enhanced Defense
Fire Resist +50%
30% Faster Hit Recovery
+2 to All Skill Levels
+160 to Life (Based on Character Level)
+200 to Vitality (Based on Character Level)
Raven Claw
50% Bonus to Attack Rating
+3 to Dexterity
Fires Slvl 3 Explosive Arrows or Bolts (lvl 33 when forwarded to 1.10+ <-- not sure about this one)
+3 to Strength
+60-70% Enhanced Damage
WizardSpike
+2 Mana per Clvl
+15% Mana Regen
+15% to Maximum Mana
All Resistances +75 (All Resistances +95)
Indestructible
50% Faster Cast Rate
Laying of Hands
10% Chance to cast level 3 Holy Bolt on striking
+20% Increased Attack Speed
+350% Damage to Demons
+25 Defense
Fire Resist +50% ( Fire Absorb 50% )
Below are the stats of items in 1.10a Beta
For the runewords, I read that they must be in 1.10s beta. I have no idea, so if someone can confirm that would be great.
Bul-Kathos' Wedding Band
+0.5 Life per Clvl
+1 to All Skills (+2 to All Skills)
+3-5% Life Stolen Per Hit
+50 Stamina
Call To Arms
+1 to all skills (+2 to all skills)
level 1-6 Battle Orders (level 5-15)
level 2-6 Battle Command (level 5-20)
level 1-4 Battle Cry (level 10-13)
in case it looks better to have it seperated
Call To Arms 1.10 beta
+2 to all skills
level 5-15 Battle Orders
level 5-20 Battle Command
level 10-13 Battle Cry
Source
Bramble
Level 15-21 Thorns Aura When Equipped
+50% Faster Hit Recovery
+25-50% To Poison Skill Damage (+69-207% To Poison Skill Damage)
+300 Defense
Increase Maximum Mana 5%
Regenerate Mana 15%
+5% To Maximum Cold Resist
Fire Resist +30%
Poison Resist +100%
+13 Life After Each Kill
Level 13 Spirit of Barbs (33 Charges)
Crescent Moon
10% Chance To Cast Level 17 Chain Lightning On Striking
7% Chance To Cast Level 13 Static Field On Striking (20% Chance To Cast)
+20% Increased Attack Speed
+180-220% Enhanced Damage (220-260% Enhanced Damage)
Ignore Target's Defense
-35% To Enemy Lightning Resist
25% Chance of Open Wounds
+9-11 Magic Absorb
+2 To Mana After Each Kill
Level 18 Summon Spirit Wolf (30 Charges)
Great weapon for Merc especially in a 1.07 base.
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@Excalibur found another mistake, skullders has repair
Skullder's Ire
Russet Armor
Defense: 732
Durability: 30 of 30
Required Strength: 97
Required Level: 42
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x62520566
+30 to Vitality
+200% Enhanced Defense
Magic Damage Reduced by 25
+1 to All Skill Levels
1% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items (1.25 per Character Level)
Repairs 1 durability in 4 seconds
Skullder's Ire
Russet Armor
Defense: 732
Durability: 30 of 30
Required Strength: 97
Required Level: 42
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x62520566
+30 to Vitality
+200% Enhanced Defense
Magic Damage Reduced by 25
+1 to All Skill Levels
1% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items (1.25 per Character Level)
Repairs 1 durability in 4 seconds
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I looked through the 1.10s gamefiles and can confirm that at least beta CTA has better stats than the final one.
it is such a hassle because I have no filelist(you must extract "unknown" named files), so I won't do it for 1.10a
but I looked at 1.10a uniques.txt and can confirm that BKWB has +2 all
it is such a hassle because I have no filelist(you must extract "unknown" named files), so I won't do it for 1.10a
but I looked at 1.10a uniques.txt and can confirm that BKWB has +2 all
I'll add this. It's not really known item or relevant but in 1.10a (beta BKWB patch) Nos Coil has 10% life leech comparing to 1.10+ variants that have 5-7. I wonder if we missed something like that in all those patch notes. Perhaps there is some hidden broken gem lying in shadows 
Also I think Gheed pricing is generally useless. You should probably list 160/xx/xx one and xxx/40/xx one. People either looking for goldfinding Gheed or MF one. All else is probably random or pgem material? Also pricing on perfect Gheed seems lol. 1 : 10206 unique grand charms will roll 160/40/15 and it's item that is used on literally every pve character. I don't think you could put price tag on perfect Gheed given how rare and universally useful it is.
Nosferatu's Coil
Vampirefang Belt
Defense: 62
Durability: 13 of 14
Required Strength: 50
Required Level: 51
Unidentified
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 75
Fingerprint: 0x521c3071
+15 to Strength
10% Life stolen per hit
-3 to Light Radius
10% Increased Attack Speed
+2 to Mana After Each Kill
Slows Target by 10%
Vampirefang Belt
Defense: 62
Durability: 13 of 14
Required Strength: 50
Required Level: 51
Unidentified
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 75
Fingerprint: 0x521c3071
+15 to Strength
10% Life stolen per hit
-3 to Light Radius
10% Increased Attack Speed
+2 to Mana After Each Kill
Slows Target by 10%
Also I think Gheed pricing is generally useless. You should probably list 160/xx/xx one and xxx/40/xx one. People either looking for goldfinding Gheed or MF one. All else is probably random or pgem material? Also pricing on perfect Gheed seems lol. 1 : 10206 unique grand charms will roll 160/40/15 and it's item that is used on literally every pve character. I don't think you could put price tag on perfect Gheed given how rare and universally useful it is.
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@Excalibur On the topic of 1.10a/s betas I already went through all the .txts to find differences:
www.purediablo.com
That should be everything that can be found from the .txts, I used the compare function of libreoffice to compare the relevant files accurately.
Sadly I don't think there are more hidden gems out there
1.07 News, Info, and Gossip
That's *very* interesting. Do you have ilvl for the low maxlvl charms? If I succesfully craft an item with 511%ed or greater such that the damage gets truncated to 511% and then add Ohm as a socket, does it go to 561% or does it stay at 511%? (The same question applies for %ed jewels, but I...
www.purediablo.com
Sadly I don't think there are more hidden gems out there
@frozzzen Thanks for the Nosferatu's Coil. It will be a nice addition!
Regarding the Gheeds, till now there was no price and no guideance at all on how to value it.
What you suggest seems good enough, to have a value for 40% MF and a value 160% GF.
Still, as rare as it might be, I think it would be nice to have a value for a perfect roll.
@art_vandelay That's awesome! Thanks!
@D2DC Do you think we could add all that info below the PCG posts?
Regarding the Gheeds, till now there was no price and no guideance at all on how to value it.
What you suggest seems good enough, to have a value for 40% MF and a value 160% GF.
Still, as rare as it might be, I think it would be nice to have a value for a perfect roll.
@art_vandelay That's awesome! Thanks!
@D2DC Do you think we could add all that info below the PCG posts?
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Fair enough. I've seen total two 160/40/15 Gheeds in my years on SPF. Granted, I've been away for a decade so I might have missed some, but I wouldn't trade mine for anything except something like 6 mods rare circlet or 6 modded classic boots or some mental case rare item that makes huge impact on my characters. It's just too rare and too universally useful to be swapped for anything else, pointless currency least of all
price on this?
rlvl is 37.
Code:
Prefix 988 Ring of the Apprentice
Required Level: 3
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 55
Fingerprint: 0x11470ed3
+117 to Mana
10% Faster Cast Raterlvl is 37.
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