SPTF Price Check Guide [PCG] & Price Inquiry Thread

I've found this guide to be a useful starting point at least, especially for the more common items. The SPF economy is noticably different to the battle.net one. D2R does represent an opportunity to revive things in the SPTF - we'll have new people and returners (like me).
 
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After Frozzzen's input and personally having a bit more experience after some excessive farming for Torches and Annies I would change the values to something like these:

Key of Terror - 5 Pgems
Key of Hate - 4 Pgems
Key of Destruction - 10 Pgems
That concludes to a set of Keys - 1 TV
Note!
In order to open all the portals for the Pandemonium event you need 3 pieces of each key.
Thus, a complete set of keys would be 3 TV.

Depending on the class the Values will vary.

Torches
Lowest/Bad Roll (10/10) - 1 TV
Average Roll (15/15) - 7 TV
Good Roll (18/18) - 20 TV
Perfect Roll (20/20) - 50+ TV

Just as Frozzzen said, Annies that roll 10% experience may get their own value. So an Anni with the worst possible roll on Stats and Resistances but with 10% exp gain should cost as the current value of a Soj.

Anni
10% to experience should already start the value at 7,5TV
Lowest/Bad Roll (10/10/5) - 2,5 TV
Average Roll (15/15/7) - 7 TV
Good Roll (18/18/9) - 20TV
Excellent Roll (19/19/10) - 50TV
Perfect Roll (20/20/10) - 100+ TV, priceless, depends on the trader.
 
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After Frozzzen's input and personally having a bit more experience after some excessive farming for Torches and Annies I would change the values to something like these:

Depending on the class the Values will vary.
Torches
Lowest/Bad Roll (10/10) - 1 TV
Average Roll (15/15) - 4 TV
Good Roll (18/18) - 10 TV
Perfect Roll (20/20) - 50+ TV

Just as Frozzzen said, Annies that roll 10% experience may get their own value. So an Anni with the worst possible roll on Stats and Resistances but with 10% exp gain should cost as the current value of a Soj.
Anni
10% to experience should already start the value at 7,5TV
Lowest/Bad Roll (10/10/5) - 2,5 TV
Average Roll (15/15/7) - 7 TV
Good Roll (18/18/9) - 20TV
Excellent Roll (19/19/10) - 50TV
Perfect Roll (20/20/10) - 100+ TV, priceless, depends on the trader.
About Anni, I started a work on valuation. See here a shared google sheet.

Feel free to comment, the ideas were:
- a base value set by a ratio from SoJ value
- a reference value for each valuable stat
- a rising scale - somehow arbitrary
- and after all of that, taking into account the degree of perfection

So it's pretty straight for now, just a quick work on it. As of now, here are some examples of values (column add is based upon previous calculations simply added, then the perfection ratio is applied):
statsresxpdeg perfaddvaluation
1010502,52,5
151050,211,87514,25
201050,44360,2
202010175,25150,5
102050,429,541,3
151580,5219,937530,305
171790,7234,12558,695
191860,7248,062582,6675
1420100,7641,312572,71
 
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Grmf... did I really forget to link the sheet? -_-

Lol well hopefully I won't here!

I added a sheet with Torch valuation, based upon drop chances and simplified regarding stats, considering that at about 50% chances to get a X/X combo that's the value of an organ set (set to 1 here, to be updated).

Also I put a ratio per class, so we have a factor between a druid and a pally/sorceress valuation.

In the end I also added a correction ratio, but that's more an available tool, not sure of its interest. I left the two tables, with and without.

In my opinion the approach based upon fixed value per variable stat + degree of perfection fits a bit more to a market spirit, so maybe it would be interesting to try it for torches too - left for later.
Edit: added Torch v2 and v3 sheets, see v3 results below.

Here it is! The sheets, one for Anni, the others for torches.

The table without class ratio (I.e. Druid/cheapest, with organ set/full keyset at 2.5TV)
Code:
Sta Res Val
10	10	1,26
11	11	1,8018
12	12	2,268
13	13	2,5675
14	14	2,926
15	15	3,7125
16	18	8,2965168
18	16	9,5640402
18	18	13,621608
19	19	24,9224976
19	20	35,34028898
20	19	39,62396038
20	20	51,89184
 
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I updated taking into account @frozzzen relative scale between classes. Took those ratios (read: X/Y Paladin torch is 2 times a druid/assassin one):
PaladinSorceressAmazonBarbarianAssassinNecromancerDruid
22,251,251,511,251

So it can be discussed. As of now, the valuation is as follows:
Updated to trade situation 21/11/23
statsresPalSorAmaBarSinNecDru
10103,023,401,892,271,511,891,51
11114,324,862,703,242,162,702,16
12125,446,123,404,082,723,402,72
13136,166,933,854,623,083,853,08
14146,707,544,195,033,354,193,35
15157,808,774,875,853,904,873,90
16117,047,924,405,283,524,403,52
181616,0518,0610,0312,048,0310,038,03
181821,0923,7213,1815,8210,5413,1810,54
191831,5235,4619,7023,6415,7619,7015,76
191938,5843,4024,1128,9419,2924,1119,29
192053,8860,6233,6840,4126,9433,6826,94
201856,9164,0235,5742,6828,4535,5728,45
201966,3174,6041,4549,7433,1641,4533,16
202084,8095,3953,0063,6042,4053,0042,40
 
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Current market valuations in TV
Rich (BB code):
Torch     By Seller By buyer Trade
Dru 20/18     25-30      ~28   ~28
Sin 20/20         -        -   ~42
Nec 11/11 + Ama 16/11           ~7


First trades/offers give a tendency of a bit high first evaluation, and a bit low on lower ones.

Rich (BB code):
Key       By Seller By buyer Trade
Hate         0.25TV   0.25TV  0.25TV
Terror       0.25TV   0.25TV  0.25TV
Destruction       -        -  0.5+TV (47keys vs 470pgms+70Ral)
Destruction       -        -  0.5+TV (35keys vs 350pgms+52Ral)
 
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how much TV is a 1.07-1.09 Zod worth, for legit zodbugging?
I don't know, but just to be 100% sure: you saw that since last SPF rules update, ATMA bugging is now completely forbidden, AND if bugged in a previous version no time travelling is allowed?

Just to be 100% sure there won't be a mess on your side at some point and keep you safe from a possible unwanted move!
 
Seller would dictate the price obviously. As for rough aproximation... in 1.12 days 30% Fathom or 15/20 Griffon's went for Lo. Runes were cubed.
And iirc max traded Zod for Enigma so it's probably equalish. So that would put it probably put it at ~12 x value of 30% fathom or so if we go by history. But no one would pay for it obviously and that's just in terms of rarity.

I'll just repeat myself. As long as both parties are fine with it, it's fine. We can't put static price on specific items like that.
 
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For those interested in, I updated the torch valuation table here in order to adjust the values based upon existing torches and keysets (3TV) trades. Waiting for Pal/Sorc torch trades to see how it goes relatively.
 
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This does look more reasonable. Imo 20/20 torch regardless of class will never be more valuable than 15/20 Griffon's or 2/50 Dweb. This reflects it properly. Good job.
 
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I think the trouble is that the old prices are skewed by PvP demand. Now PvP seems pretty much dead, but there is at least a potential in 1.14d. In D2R it is obviously not possible. That makes some items worth much less in D2R than they would be in 1.14d.

For me personally a few stat points in PvM - meh. PvP would be a different matter.
But then I'm unlikely to trade for anything outside PvP these days anyway.
 
Don't you think Terror Keys should be higher price?

Doesn't make much sense to me farming her, when you could farm cows or chaos, or nilathak keys.

Killing the champs/uniques on the way there is only good for some capped runes(no cham+), because most of the gg uniques can't drop afaik

would be interested how @Excalibur and others see it that actually farmed her.
 
Yeah, I can safely say that Keys of Terror are the worst. Not only Countess doesn't drop them that often it's also the most time consuming route. Having to go through 5 levels is very annoying. Nihlathak wasn't that bad as I though. I would change the Keys of Terror to 8 Pgems while Keys of Destruction to 9 since Nihlathak can be deadly sometimes.
 
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