MFO Summer 2020 Signups and Running Thread

@ffs I didn’t “decide” a rule change, but only "decided how to decide" whether to adopt the proposed approach, based on feedback and discussion ;) So I still view this as an open question.

Interestingly, I held off on proposing a rule change because I worried it might lead to arguments and tension within the SPF. But when broached I thought it would be good to hear from different perspectives, and try to make the best decision based on input.

My perspective is that there isn’t a “right” answer here. It seems like most people don’t feel strongly but others do in either direction. I also see the different sides:
- I personally don't see adding a trade profile as any serious burden;
- I understand reluctance to join if purely self-found and there is a risk (however unlikely given recent history) that an amazing item might get claimed;
- I understand that one unique feature of MFO is the risk of losing an amazing item;
- I understand that it can seem weird to keep a rule/process that hasn’t been used in years;
- I see value in maintaining tradition unless there is a clear reason to move on from it; and
- I think Pb_pal's idea for the community to provide an item to a winner who wanted to claim an item from someone who opted out could be its own interesting tradition within the SPF going forward.

Given the challenge of reconciling the perspectives, I may have to resolve this by zod-ing a 5os eth Runemaster and filling it with Los before personalizing it as a trophy to be passed along by MFO winners (bonus points to anyone who can guess the character name I'd create to do that). Oh wait, that won't resolve the issue . . . ? :p

In all seriousness, I really appreciate the constructive discussion so far. My main hope is that we please avoid having hard feelings arise from this discussion or outcome.

Everyone who has signed up so far was listed trade profile, so I assume they are okay proceeding with current rule or proposed modified rule. Please PM me if you: (a) would sign up but only if opt-out from claiming is authorized or (b) would withdraw or decline to sign up if opt-out from claiming is authorized or (c) something other variant or feedback that you'd prefer to provide via PM.
 
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I think Pb_pal's idea for the community to provide an item to a winner who wanted to claim an item from someone who opted out could be its own interesting tradition within the SPF going forward.

If we decide on this in a future MFO, I can also chip in.
 
Some Pindle sounds relaxing..


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Baal
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Vildecor [1.14d SC FAM]
Friiser [1.14d SC FAM]

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Pindle+
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Kstil3227 [1.14d HC FAM]
jjscud [1.13c FAM]
CaseyJones [1.14d SC FAM]
Hackedagainanda[1.14d SC FAM]
Nano [1.14d SC FAM]
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Level 85 Areas
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Trim [1.14d SC FAM]
Swamigoon [1.14b SC vanilla]
ffs [1.14b SC FAM]
Albatross[1.14d SC FAM]
QueenEm [1.14B SC FAM]
art_vandelay [1.14d SC FAM]
Luhkoh [1.14d SC FAM]
Nagisa [1.14d SC FAM]
LiquidClear [1.13d SC FAM]
Pb_pal [1.13d HC FAM]

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Teams
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Available for teams
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Baal
Vildecor

Pindle
Kstil3227
CaseyJones

A85
Luhkoh
LiquidClear
Pb_pal
 
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Forgot to link my trade profile that I created only to participate in MFO as I play self found and will not be claiming any items should I be lucky enough to place. Personally not a fan of the rule and complained a little last year but don't find it overly involved in creating the trade profile either. Anyway, linked profile below :)


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Baal
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Vildecor [1.14d SC FAM]
Friiser [1.14d SC FAM]

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Pindle+
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Kstil3227 [1.14d HC FAM]
jjscud [1.13c FAM]
CaseyJones [1.14d SC FAM]
Hackedagainanda[1.14d SC FAM]
Nano [1.14d SC FAM]
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Level 85 Areas
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Trim [1.14d SC FAM]
Swamigoon [1.14b SC vanilla]
ffs [1.14b SC FAM]
Albatross[1.14d SC FAM]
QueenEm [1.14B SC FAM]
art_vandelay [1.14d SC FAM]
Luhkoh [1.14d SC FAM]
Nagisa [1.14d SC FAM]
LiquidClear [1.13d SC FAM]
Pb_pal [1.13d HC FAM]

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Teams
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Available for teams
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Baal
Vildecor

Pindle
Kstil3227
CaseyJones

A85
Luhkoh
LiquidClear
Pb_pal
 
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Baal it is, probably with my untwinked 99er Barb (hoping to get him to 97.75), but also maybe mixing in untwinked 99er Druid. We will have limited MF, but not sure that matters for Baal runs :rolleyes:

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Baal
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Vildecor [1.14d SC FAM]
Friiser [1.14d SC FAM]
PhineasB [1.14d SC FAM]

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Pindle+
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Kstil3227 [1.14d HC FAM]
jjscud [1.13c FAM]
CaseyJones [1.14d SC FAM]
Hackedagainanda[1.14d SC FAM]
Nano [1.14d SC FAM]

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Level 85 Areas
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Trim [1.14d SC FAM]
Swamigoon [1.14b SC vanilla]
ffs [1.14b SC FAM]
Albatross[1.14d SC FAM]
QueenEm [1.14B SC FAM]
art_vandelay [1.14d SC FAM]
Luhkoh [1.14d SC FAM]
Nagisa [1.14d SC FAM]
LiquidClear [1.13d SC FAM]
Pb_pal [1.13d HC FAM]

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Teams
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Available for teams
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Baal
Vildecor
PhineasB

Pindle
Kstil3227
CaseyJones

A85
Luhkoh
LiquidClear
Pb_pal
 
-------------------
Baal
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Vildecor [1.14d SC FAM]
Friiser [1.14d SC FAM]
PhineasB [1.14d SC FAM]

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Pindle+
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Kstil3227 [1.14d HC FAM]
jjscud [1.13c FAM]
CaseyJones [1.14d SC FAM]
Hackedagainanda[1.14d SC FAM]
Nano [1.14d SC FAM]

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Level 85 Areas
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Trim [1.14d SC FAM]
Swamigoon [1.14b SC vanilla]
ffs [1.14b SC FAM]
Albatross[1.14d SC FAM]
QueenEm [1.14B SC FAM]
art_vandelay [1.14d SC FAM]
Luhkoh [1.14d SC FAM]
Nagisa [1.14d SC FAM]
LiquidClear [1.13d SC FAM]
Pb_pal [1.13d HC FAM]
EatSleepDiablo [1.14d SC FAM]
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Teams
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Available for teams
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Baal
Vildecor
PhineasB

Pindle
Kstil3227
CaseyJones

A85
Luhkoh
LiquidClear
Pb_pal
 
Signing up for a team with @Nano and @Pb_pal (team name TBD -- it will be tremendously creative, no doubt). There's at least one more team to be had, and I reserve the right to draft people who've signed up into the teams category :p

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Baal
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Vildecor [1.14d SC FAM]
Friiser [1.14d SC FAM]
PhineasB [1.14d SC FAM]

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Pindle+
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Kstil3227 [1.14d HC FAM]
jjscud [1.13c FAM]
CaseyJones [1.14d SC FAM]
Hackedagainanda[1.14d SC FAM]
Nano [1.14d SC FAM]

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Level 85 Areas
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Trim [1.14d SC FAM]
Swamigoon [1.14b SC vanilla]
ffs [1.14b SC FAM]
Albatross[1.14d SC FAM]
QueenEm [1.14B SC FAM]
art_vandelay [1.14d SC FAM]
Luhkoh [1.14d SC FAM]
Nagisa [1.14d SC FAM]
LiquidClear [1.13d SC FAM]
Pb_pal [1.13d HC FAM]
EatSleepDiablo [1.14d SC FAM]
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Teams
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Team Name TBD
  • PhineasB (Baal)
  • Nano (Pindle)
  • Pb_pal (A85)

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Available for teams
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Baal
Vildecor

Pindle
Kstil3227
CaseyJones

A85
Luhkoh
LiquidClear
 
10 years ago I won those things... let's see if years took a tool on this old man..



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Baal
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Vildecor [1.14d SC FAM]
Friiser [1.14d SC FAM]
PhineasB [1.14d SC FAM]

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Pindle+
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Kstil3227 [1.14d HC FAM]
jjscud [1.13c FAM]
CaseyJones [1.14d SC FAM]
Hackedagainanda[1.14d SC FAM]
Nano [1.14d SC FAM]

-------------------
Level 85 Areas
-------------------
Trim [1.14d SC FAM]
Swamigoon [1.14b SC vanilla]
ffs [1.14b SC FAM]
Albatross[1.14d SC FAM]
QueenEm [1.14B SC FAM]
art_vandelay [1.14d SC FAM]
Luhkoh [1.14d SC FAM]
Nagisa [1.14d SC FAM]
LiquidClear [1.13d SC FAM]
Pb_pal [1.13d HC FAM]
EatSleepDiablo [1.14d SC FAM]
frozzzen [1.13d FAM SC]
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Teams
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Team Name TBD
  • PhineasB (Baal)
  • Nano (Pindle)
  • Pb_pal (A85)

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Available for teams
--------------------
Baal
Vildecor

Pindle
Kstil3227
CaseyJones

A85
Luhkoh
LiquidClear
 
Hi All!
It's great to see all the sign-ups so far. Still about a week away, so there's still time for others who are on the sidelines!

Based on the discussion and feedback, I'm going to update the claiming rule along the lines proposed earlier:
- Top three can claim 1 item each (rather than 3-2-1 in current rule)
- Participants can opt out of claiming and participate without trade profile.

We have 20 sign-ups so far, so I don't know how much difference the second point will make on participation. I guess we'll see. Thanks all!
 
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@ffs The item is a decider for the category, as my PitZerker is already built ;)

Thanks @PhineasB, I answered your PM before reading your post, so it's all clear now. You have a contender ;)

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Baal
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Vildecor [1.14d SC FAM]
Friiser [1.14d SC FAM]
PhineasB [1.14d SC FAM]
Babyhell [1.14D SC FAM]

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Pindle+
-------------------
Kstil3227 [1.14d HC FAM]
jjscud [1.13c FAM]
CaseyJones [1.14d SC FAM]
Hackedagainanda[1.14d SC FAM]
Nano [1.14d SC FAM]

-------------------
Level 85 Areas
-------------------
Trim [1.14d SC FAM]
Swamigoon [1.14b SC vanilla]
ffs [1.14b SC FAM]
Albatross[1.14d SC FAM]
QueenEm [1.14B SC FAM]
art_vandelay [1.14d SC FAM]
Luhkoh [1.14d SC FAM]
Nagisa [1.14d SC FAM]
LiquidClear [1.13d SC FAM]
Pb_pal [1.13d HC FAM]
EatSleepDiablo [1.14d SC FAM]
frozzzen [1.13d FAM SC]
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Teams
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Team Name TBD
  • PhineasB (Baal)
  • Nano (Pindle)
  • Pb_pal (A85)

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Available for teams
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Baal
Vildecor
Babyhell

Pindle
Kstil3227
CaseyJones

A85
Luhkoh
LiquidClear
 
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@Vildecor @CaseyJones and are teaming up. We'll work on thinking of good name ;).

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Baal
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Vildecor [1.14d SC FAM]
Friiser [1.14d SC FAM]
PhineasB [1.14d SC FAM]
Babyhell [1.14D SC FAM]

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Pindle+
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Kstil3227 [1.14d HC FAM]
jjscud [1.13c FAM]
CaseyJones [1.14d SC FAM]
Hackedagainanda[1.14d SC FAM]
Nano [1.14d SC FAM]

-------------------
Level 85 Areas
-------------------
Trim [1.14d SC FAM]
Swamigoon [1.14b SC vanilla]
ffs [1.14b SC FAM]
Albatross[1.14d SC FAM]
QueenEm [1.14B SC FAM]
art_vandelay [1.14d SC FAM]
Luhkoh [1.14d SC FAM]
Nagisa [1.14d SC FAM]
LiquidClear [1.13d SC FAM]
Pb_pal [1.13d HC FAM]
EatSleepDiablo [1.14d SC FAM]
frozzzen [1.13d FAM SC]
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Teams
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Team Name TBD
  • PhineasB (Baal)
  • Nano (Pindle)
  • Pb_pal (A85)
Team Name TBD
  • Vildecor (Baal)
  • CaseyJones (Pindle)
  • Luhkoh (A85)
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Available for teams
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Baal
Babyhell

Pindle
Kstil3227

A85
LiquidClear
 
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Well, y'all have fun... got some stuff I've been wanting to do in Dwarf Fortress anyway.
 
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@zemaj - I hope you reconsider, that Tyrael's isn't going to find itself!

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Also, I am under the firm belief that because I've been migrating and reading through literal hundreds of posts from previous MFOs I have been imbued with all the luck (good luck only, of course) from previous participants, and will use it to destroy everything and everyone in my path.

Glad to see we've got a couple more teams to contend with, but sadly you are all going to lose in tremendous fashion.

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What are everyone's goals for the MFO? Let's not count 'I'm going to win' since that is literally the goal of the competition. How about some personal goals? A special Item you'd like to find, some XP to be gained, bolster your charm collection, something else entirely? Let's hear them!

For me:

1. Do NOT deed my Singer
2. Find at least 1 grailer



MFO IS COMING!!! HYPEEEEEEE!!!
 
Glad to see we've got a couple more teams to contend with, but sadly you are all going to lose in tremendous fashion.

I had to double-check to make sure, and yep, I believe last year you placed dead last in the Baal category and your team also was in last place. Mighty words, sir. Let's see if there's something behind those words this year! ;) I'd hate for you to place behind my last-minute, budget sorceress after all.

Besides my 2020 goal of getting at least 2nd place in the Baal category, everything I find in this MFO will be a bonus since I had to restart. Looking forward to finding lots of items to use in twinking future characters.
 
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