The PvP Thread

@Gripphon Right, 'cause I only ever died to physical dmg.. :sneaky:

@Nazdakka please, I'm farming Ber runes just for some PvP chars, the least you can do is farm a couple of essences. :P

Here's a quick sketch of a Ghost I'd like to build, any comments/suggestions Sin pros?
2/20/life/res circlet posted above
Enigma
2/15 amulet
Raven
FCR/AR/dex/mana ring
Chaos Suwayyah
Fury Runic
TO gloves
Verdungo's
eth Sandstorm Treks

Skills: 20 each Venom, Mind blast, Claw Mastery, Fade, ~10 weapon block, rest TBD maybe shadow master?

Also wondering whether to go HLW + Arach instead of FCR ammy + Verdungo's. Is HLW worth it when generally leaning towards Venom for damage outpust (Mentalist skillers etc.)? Then I guess I should socketed yet another Ber I don't currently have in the circlet. :D

I don't have any great eth/venom fools claws or anything, so I think Fury RT is probably the way to go, but if I'm overlooking something lmk.

Probably should make new Chaos/Fury in any case because neither base has +Venom. Shame the only + Venom bases I have are Wrist Sword or Suwayyah but might just make a new Chaos in one of those and WSM bug with RT offhand.
 
I can't tell how good HLW really is. I'm using Gore Rider boots which are slightly weaker option than HLW against vita casters and slightly better option against block characters and barbs due to higher OW chance. However, you would need FHR in inventory, at least 27 FHR breakpoint that I have which is enough. Sandstorm opens more AR in inventory as well as offering 20 FHR...

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What I did is I'm using Gore Riders and having 27 FHR BP and not maxed poison resist, but if I need poison resist, then I use Sandstorm and also getting 48 FHR BP in the process. Saves a ton of inventory slots for more AR since poison is very rare in PvP. This "trick" can be used with all AR reliant builds.
 
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I don't think you need Verdungo's depending on how high you cast fade. You should be hitting around 40 on a Ghost, so with 8 from Enigma you are basically there. I would probably go Arach for the FCR and skill. This gives you more flexibility for the helm slot and the ring. You can then consider Wisp / Carrion Wind etc as required. Potentially dropping the amulet for Nokozan if you have to as well.

Use HLW only if you can't thit the IAS BP, but I guess you are weapon bugging?
 
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I'm 100% with max on this one. HLW does only marginal increase in damage because lots ghost damage of it comes from open wounds, venom and persistent spam of Mindblast. All of those can't crit, and you are also using Fury which already has 33% crit alongside claw mastery. With your itemization I don't think you need any off claw IAS as long as you do WSM bug.

I've had what would be considered physical spectrum ghost by battle net standards (ATMA haxed Chaos and Fury and very few shadow gcs), and I still wouldn't use HLW because you are just loosing too much. Your setup is circlet one, which I can't really agree with on a Ghost because best way to get 65 fcr seems to me arach, trangs, 2/15 amulet and ring. These are all good items in general and you aren't pressed for %DR so best headgear would be clearly 1.07 Shako without much competition because you need extra life for ghost. They are going close and personal so they will often lose some life when engaging. It's kinda hard to theorycraft around you not using timetraveled stuff, but I'd always have flexible ring slot on any character. Having Oak charges is massive, and ability to swap in Wisp is really good vs lightning. I still hope you will break down and roll 1.07 at some point :D
 
Makes sense re HLW and Arach.

@frozzzen
Nah 1.14 is how I roll ;)

My ffa PvP strategy against you time travelers is simple: You guys bring each other down to mortal life amounts, then I steal the kill. :p

As for 1v1... well I'll have to think of something!

With Shako setup and FCR ring you don't have a flexible ring slot though no? Or are you not using Raven? Tbh I like the circlet given my options, it has great stats and current-patch Shako/CoA etc. have little to offer in comparison.
 
Generally I don’t bother with specific setups for FFA as people change characters so often you spend half your time at the stash, but I still like some options

- Drop a skiller or swap resist SCs
- Shakos with different sockets
- FCR circlet & Wisp
Etc.

Circlet still is a great option Maybe needing only 5FCR on the amulet opens up other choices? Or a caster belt if the other mods are juicy enough?
 
Fcr circlet and this as a belt harhar :cool:

Rune Cord
Mithril Coil
Defense: 63
Durability: 10 of 16
Required Level: 78
Required Strength: 106
Fingerprint: 0x39cfee0
Item Level: 65
Version: Expansion
4% Life stolen per hit
15% Chance of Open Wounds
+14 to Strength
+121 to Life
Lightning Resist +28%
Poison Resist +8%
 
It took some more LK running and cubing in addition to the MF/RF tourney set, but we got there eventually:

Code: 
Crown of Ages
Corona
Defense: 394
Durability: 31 of 50
Required Level: 82
Required Strength: 174
Fingerprint: 0x5187276
Item Level: 88
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Indestructible
+1 to All Skills
+30% Faster Hit Recovery
+50% Enhanced Defense
+145 Defense
All Resistances +29
Damage Reduced by 30% 2 Sockets (2 used)
Socketed: Ber Rune
Socketed: Ber Rune

Also tweaked Pally a bit for extra DR with another CoA, and respec'ed the Sorc into FB/ES build. Didn't like Blizzard much for some reason. Didn't really like my 200 FCR gear options so I went with 105 FCR, but I think overall quite solid build/setup. Curious to see how it works out.

Any plans to have another go one of these days? I'll be travelling 27/28 and if all goes well will be hiking the whole first week in Jan, so fully offline then. Otherwise I'm down. :)

Also been meaning to tag @Jpy as I think he used to PvP a lot in the past, gogo join the fun! ;)

Merry Christmas everyone!
 
105 ES/FB are extremely strong. That's good choice. Beware of assassins however.

As far as pvp, I can put host up for next couple days. If there's any interest I'll put the games up. So gieb interest.
 
I don't think I'll be able to be here right now, but I'll probably come later down the line.

Host up at
in 5 minutes from this post
 
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I'm thinking of re-stating a SC Sorc I have for a ES/FB dueler. Can I get some idea of skill/stat placement as well as some budget gear considerations? I checked online for some suggetions but the builds listed there assume I have access to Ahnilus Charms, Hellfire Torches and bucketloads of Bers.
 
Here’s the FB/ES Sorc I made a few days ago. Apart from 6 life skillers she’s using pretty cheap stuff actually.

Shako (facet)
Viper (Shael)
Hoto
Spirit
Verdungo
Frostburn
2x SoJ
Mara
Tri res rare FHR boots

6x life skillers, rest life/mana/some resists

20 each FB, synergies, mastery, Telekinesis
1 ES, armor, pre-reqs

14-15k FB dmg
3.5k mana, 1.7k life

I cast ES at only ~75% so I still wanted 75 resists and some DR. @frozzzen's arrows still ripped her apart :D but overall she did better than some of my other chars I tried that used much more expensive/rare gear.
 
Or if you want to get tarnished by 1.07 items, it's very easy to get 105 fcr while using 1.07 Arkaine's. It gives you fantastic stats otherwise that I don't think can be beaten by any conventional armor. I think 1.10+ Shako is better for this build unless you have crazy skillers with life. If you double Shael your head and chest you can go to 142 fhr, PSkulls, PRubies, Sol/Mal... all work as sockets. Combo of 1.07 Ark and 1.10+ Shako should keep you at respectable life even without good charms.

This would be my go to setup.
Shako
2/10 fcr amulet
Hoto
Spirit
1.07 Arkaine's Valor
Arach
SoJ
SoJ
Frostburns
Treks
 
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