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Solar Ice
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it was pretty funny though
LOL. :rolf: Though I can think of at least one person here that probably won't find that funny!
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from post #420 where CG says that flub is agreeing with the 1 mafia per name thing. (Post 420 is flub's quoted portion above)
I didn't get it either.
Also, can those who find me suspicious explain why (kegs, solar, ??)? Without some reason it kind of sounds like you're just trying to hide in the crowd by pointing out someone you don't like, and claiming you don't like some others, as well.
If it's because of the flavour of the pm I posted then you really need to get over that. The ability was the important part, the story was there for completeness.
Also, I said (a few times?) That I didn't use the ability because I didn't know I got a pm.
Also, can those who find me suspicious explain why (kegs, solar, ??)? Without some reason it kind of sounds like you're just trying to hide in the crowd by pointing out someone you don't like, and claiming you don't like some others, as well.
If it's because of the flavour of the pm I posted then you really need to get over that. The ability was the important part, the story was there for completeness.
Also, I said (a few times?) That I didn't use the ability because I didn't know I got a pm.
That's really sad. You are usually such a critical thinker, now your just lynching based on someone else's reasoning.....or perhaps direction.
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This is just a mish-mash of attempts to connect several people together and frankly just comes off looking desperate.
There it is....
The push the horrifying push!!!!
Hide ya kids!! Hide ya wife!! They be pushin' errybuddy up in here!!!
Now that flubb has had a chance to give his take...
I thought flubb essentially agreed with me. I said "bad" while he said "stupid." Six of one and half a dozen of another. He also made a point to bold "just one" which is a point I keep going back to.
Furthermore, the post flubb replied to has several ideas in it. Other ideas in thefranklin's post include the sphere as recruitment, the sphere as a switch (mafiascum term), "a statistical lead on the Harry's" and Laarz being the most suspect. The "one player of each name is mafia" idea is also there, but that idea flubb isn't in agreement with: "All the talk regarding just one <insert name here> being mafia isn't smart." He's open to the possibility you outline with the three assumptions.
I thought flubb essentially agreed with me. I said "bad" while he said "stupid." Six of one and half a dozen of another. He also made a point to bold "just one" which is a point I keep going back to.
Furthermore, the post flubb replied to has several ideas in it. Other ideas in thefranklin's post include the sphere as recruitment, the sphere as a switch (mafiascum term), "a statistical lead on the Harry's" and Laarz being the most suspect. The "one player of each name is mafia" idea is also there, but that idea flubb isn't in agreement with: "All the talk regarding just one <insert name here> being mafia isn't smart." He's open to the possibility you outline with the three assumptions.
Going after a 6 claimer because of the setup (which "clearly" must have 5 Teds and not only the 4 that claimed) will award themselves major scum points. The idea is fundamentally identical to going after Harry's and Ted's because they entered the sphere last night. I don't know if anyone does this, as I have about 10 pages to catch up on, but I'll be watching for it.
The wording of phrarphis' roleblock PM wounds exactly like the desciption of Harry: arrogant, unsympathetic, disdainful, and often uncooperative. I don't think any of the other Harry's had a bone to pick with the "scummy" part. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that scummy part is given to every Harry who receives a night ability either in the past or the rest of the game.
Perhaps I misread you. I was under the impression that you didn't have a specific opinion on the setup yet, and were just advocating not going down the path of lynching an entire role (i.e., all Harrys).
In any case, that's not the important part. What makes me want to lynch flubbucket was the fact that he attempts to direct conversation away from a topic. His or your particular opinion on the subject is relatively unimportant to my vote on flubbucket.
"All the talk regarding [insert any point of conversation here] isn't smart." is the important part of his quote. Why not discuss things? If we don't discuss things, then we have a dead thread and nothing to lynch off of. Who does that help? Why is one of the lower post count folks telling us that we shouldn't talk about salient points?
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The pm looks like scum to me. That's why. Was it two separate pm's? Why did you split the post?
Gory thinks it fits the role. I haven't seen the movie and I'm not Harry, so that could be right, could be wrong.
I don't think Ted ever entered the sphere in the movie (or book). Ergo, we are not following the movie (or book).
No one has been lynched. There are almost as many setup ideas as players. There re 4-6 duplicates of each role claim. Can anyone truly be said to be helping out much?
Yes and no the the specific setup. I have an idea (which I'll post before I go to bed) but if I'm right we can't formulate a strategy to combat it.
The problem with strategizing against a setup is that the game is close to LYLO by the time you prove the setup is correct. You might get lucky and disprove a setup earlier but where does that leave us? Most likely looking for a new setup/strategy to prove/disprove. Therefore, I think strategizing against ANY setup is "not good" and should be avoided at all costs.
By all means pay attention to possible setups but don't focus solely on certain names (and more importantly, ignoring all the other names) without proper justification.
I interpret the controversial sentence differently. I see it as disagreeing with [insert any point of conversation here]. I don't think "All the talk regarding [insert any point of conversation here] will earn you scum points" is stifling conversation yet I think it's roughly what flubb was saying.
Assumption: There are 5 mafia.
Assumption: Each mafia received one of the 4 names.
Guess what. Mafia KNOW there are duplicate names. Duplicate main/major names. This has significant implications on what strategies they might employ. At a minimum, mafia shouldn't be afraid of claiming a duplicate name and might be the first claimer (LAMISM?).
Mafia might not have been able to talk before twilight started. Odds are mafia weren't allowed to talk during the first half day. However, that "day" was called twilight instead of D0 so maybe they could talk anyway. They definitely would be able to talk before all the roleclaims. That's what I'm counting on and focusing on.
By the time the mass claims occurred, I think we had mostly moved away from the recruitment idea so I don't see a big risk to claiming Harry or Ted (thought I'm pretty WIFOMY - many others might play it safer).
Normally I'd assume 5 mafia over 4 mafia in a 21 player setup but so far the only ability claimed has been one shot on one night that wasn't used. We aren't exactly talking about a gluttony of power roles.
Assumption: Each mafia received one of the 4 names.
Guess what. Mafia KNOW there are duplicate names. Duplicate main/major names. This has significant implications on what strategies they might employ. At a minimum, mafia shouldn't be afraid of claiming a duplicate name and might be the first claimer (LAMISM?).
Mafia might not have been able to talk before twilight started. Odds are mafia weren't allowed to talk during the first half day. However, that "day" was called twilight instead of D0 so maybe they could talk anyway. They definitely would be able to talk before all the roleclaims. That's what I'm counting on and focusing on.
By the time the mass claims occurred, I think we had mostly moved away from the recruitment idea so I don't see a big risk to claiming Harry or Ted (thought I'm pretty WIFOMY - many others might play it safer).
Normally I'd assume 5 mafia over 4 mafia in a 21 player setup but so far the only ability claimed has been one shot on one night that wasn't used. We aren't exactly talking about a gluttony of power roles.
Bolded for emphasis.
Game Setup Speculation: I think this game is algorithmically generated. A random number generator determines setup details such as "1 of each name is mafia."
Algorithmically generated means:
There may be 4 mafia Ted's or 0 mafia Ted's. Or any number in between. Or any other name.
There may be 1 mafia of each name or not. If there are only 4 mafia it's actually less likely to have 1 mafia of each name than other distributions.
There may be a 5-4-6-6 distribution of names. There may be a 21-0-0-0 distribution of names. Some ratios are more plausible than others but no distribution can be discounted.
Algorithmically generated also means game setup exploiting strategies are statistically more likely to fail than succeed.
I will admit I have only read the last 15 pages and the first 20 fully, so I am missing a large chunk, but right now what I am seeing is an irresistible vote for Male. Didn't read the PM? Seriously? There is no forgiving that. I will read on, but I am ready to vote now.
Vote: Malevolent
Vote: Malevolent
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