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@drmalawi basically where I decided for my unholy grail i was going to do no tz act bosses period, I want to lvl up to 94 at baal with most of my 99er sept characters. Its obvious how to do this with all classes except druid, so I was like meh I'll just do it with the others and do druid elsewhere. But I was thinking I'd do CS instead with paladin (though i just tried foh/hammer hybrid at baal and hes great) to finish diablo essences, and since amazon, assassin, and barb are nowhere soon, I thought I'd see if I could make essence progress with the druid in a non-painful way.

And sure would love to see vids of both! As well as thoughts on how "comfortable" as well as fast lister (p1, p3, or p8) and baal (p1 vs p3) are.
 
TheCanMan do all Lister waves at p3 just so that even the nastiest mod-combos are doable (and stone skin does not take 1,5 min to kill) so that we are sure to get the Baal kill in all runs.

I'll try some runs with them maybe next week. I think Hurricane dudu is a build that has been "forgotten" in D2R. Forgotten in that sense that it is only the sunder mechanic that is new so to say. But at least the little bit I have played him in D2R by focusing on cold damge (NW, VoR, infinity) I think he is a much better clearer than what the windy was in D2LoD. But, single target is still no great. Oh well, I am curious too!
 
Luhkoh said:
@drmalawi jealous of the essence tho!
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Here is another one, I hope he still got some left for you!
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I had a few points to spare, so equipped Hand of Blessed light 'shael shael' and 1 point wearwolf, lycantropy, .. Fury. Went much smoother.
I bet Kingslayer PB will be even more so but it takes up more space inside inventory/cube
 
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Luhkoh said:
Does anyone have any ideas for what would be best for a baal running druid? As in actually killing Baal at the end of the run. I know ventar runs are good exp for wind druid, but I need baal essences. I could probably just do lister and baal on p1 with the windy, but ofc I would prefer full p8/p3 runs.
  • Any chance fury is better for this?
  • Or has anyone tried anything wacky like some low points-investment way to apply cb to baal as a windy?
  • Or fire druid with sunder? (I'll tag @PhineasB @Nano @ffs). Thanks guys!
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Druid is probably my least played class, so my experience is fairly limited here. I have a level 90 Druid in D2R. Quested as a summoning druid, then leveled up from 80 to 90 as a Wind Druid running P8 Countess for T keys. I multi-tasked like you are trying to do with Baal essences.
For Baal runs, I'd give Fire druid a try (never tried one myself though). Waves 2-4 should be fine at high player counts. Maybe low player counts for Wave 1 & Wave 5. Firestorm should do well against Baal. P1 or P3 Baal will depend on the kill speed, or it could just be more convenient to stay on P1 if you're also clearing Wave 5 and next game's throne on P1 (less /player switching).
 
@Luhkoh sorry for responding late, I totally fell into the new PoE league trap and barely checking in here currently. :) Afraid I can't help much though. I do remember Ventar runs being most efficient XP-wise but don't think I've ever done full Baal runs on Druid for any meaningful amount of time. Why Druid though? As if running Baal wasn't crappy enough. :D
 
I found the following from a 2013 post on the Amazon Basin Damage to demons the details are in the third post


It's true. :blink: According to the entry for blessedhammer in Missiles.txt:

dParam1 *damage param1 desc dParam2 *damage param2 desc
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50 bonus dmg% undead 50 bonus dmg% demon

Like you I've corroborated that this actually applies in the game, so 11,000 Blessed Hammer damage increases to 16,500 to undead and demons.
 
@drmalawi yes this is true. My foh/hammer hybrids hammers (~4k dmg) kill diablo faster than holy bolt (~6k dmg). That being said i still use holy bolt because I can stand far away and heal the merc. Its also just noticeable if you do some calcs killing stuff in p8 in CS. It takes noticeably fewer casts (compared to the monsters' health pool from amazon basin) than the LCS suggests. Hdin wouldn't wreck CS nearly as much without that 50%. And this is the same in LoD and D2R. Also why hdin sucks against nihlathak for example. No bonus.
 
@Nano @ffs @LouB thanks guys! I'll post back if/when I do some testing.

And @ffs im just trying to do baal runs with most all of my 99er classes till 94 to make progress toward the 100 tokens goal from my thread. I initially dismissed druid, saying nah I'll just skip baal with him, as was probably smart. But I think it's worth some testing before giving up on those essences :P.
 
Luhkoh said:
Does anyone have any ideas for what would be best for a baal running druid? As in actually killing Baal at the end of the run. I know ventar runs are good exp for wind druid, but I need baal essences. I could probably just do lister and baal on p1 with the windy, but ofc I would prefer full p8/p3 runs.
  • Any chance fury is better for this?
  • Or has anyone tried anything wacky like some low points-investment way to apply cb to baal as a windy?
  • Or fire druid with sunder? (I'll tag @PhineasB @Nano @ffs). Thanks guys!
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I'm way behind here, too busy at work. I did not enjoy the Windy (D2L) and ended up shifting to Nihl early because it was feeling too tedious. That said, I didn't have skillers (I think only one), so that could make a difference. Pb_pal ran a fire Druid to good effect in D2L, and I think D2R buffed the fire skills (plus more summons possible?). So that might be worth a shot. I also think Sundered / Infinity Fire Claw is a real strong bet (not having done it). You could roll a double-immediate-teleport map and then tele to the Throne Room to speed things up.
 
duck said:
Thanks for the transparency.

D2 was a major part of my childhood. While I mainly played bnet then, I knew about SSF for the longest time. This community is special as it's so dedicated to a niche aspect of d2, and I really admire it.

If you still intend to keep the site running, I can donate 1k usd to help out. Probably can do so maybe next month when work is less busy. Let me know when you need it and how I can go about doing it.
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@Rush

May I confirm if this is the link to donate to support SPF?
 
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To my knowledge, the game first decides about which treasure classes to drop from from, like runes, armor, weapons etc. and the distribution shouldn't change. So the answer should be no. What's changing is the distribution of drops from armor or weapn TCs, after it has been decided to drop from one of them. That distribution is a bell curve, with its maximum going more towards the tigher armor/weapon TCs, leading to more drops of high ones when terrorized.

According to https://dropcalc.silospen.com , the council (bosses and minions) cannot even drop up to Zod then, only up to Cham, as they do when not terrorized. That's probably because they are superuniques respectively their minions. It might be the same with minions of the seal bosses, Pindleskin etc.

There is a drop calculator that allows the selection of particular treasure classes, https://planetdiablo.eu/diablo2/calcs/dropcalc/#en .It's a bit awkward, however. By the way, it allows selecting classic which might be useful for other purposes.
 
I'm sure there's a guide somewhere that tells me, but I can't find it with my limited searching. Does Concentration work properly with Grief or is the damage calculated separately?
 
Pancakes said:
I'm sure there's a guide somewhere that tells me, but I can't find it with my limited searching. Does Concentration work properly with Grief or is the damage calculated separately?
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Afaik Vengeance is the only skill for which it does not work. Unsure about Blade Fury.
 
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