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Vessel of Hatred

[won by mafia] 2d3 game normal, no lore, just lynching [Game Thread]

Babyhell said:
I guess if any of the scum read my PM role thread of previous, I'm quite high on the list.

I would go on a person who tries to analyze, or is known for that, but not the most obvious one, on N1. For example Pyro showed his abilities and is not showing off, so could be a good first target. I'd put afterwards a pack including Zhao, Skjolde, D2DC, and myself, and Gorny too as experienced player.

Then Snickersnack could be included soon, due to his ability to nicely hide last game.

Coju no, because he is scum, so he is of the equation for now. And his ability to be lynched is valuable for day phases...

Sorry for the others, I just made it quick before leaving home, with the names that STRUCK me ;-) !
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Sorry BH, but I don't like this either.

As you said, anybody that read your role PMs last game can see that you are capable of much more in depth analysis. Your answer here is basically just, "kill experienced/active players", which is kind of dodging the question.

Zhao even said, "given the information up to this point". Nowhere in your response does it show that you've put any thought or analysis into your hypothetical targets based on THIS game. You must have SOME type of reads already.. I mean, you posted a player list and play style before the last game even began.

Even if your reads are all fairly neutral at this point, you should have stated that. "I don't have any good reads yet, so I'd probably just start with the experienced players". It's like your response is deliberately generic.

Surely you must know mafia don't choose to NK players that are potential mislynches for town. So, your target list should have had some impact by your live reads.

Even the naming if yourself I found a bit odd. "Well, obviously they would NK me since I am so dangerous. But, in case I'm still alive tomorrow, this is why..".

This, along with your setup analysis, seems too much like you're trying to give off the appearance of helping/contributing without actually putting much thought into it.

Unvote: Pyrotechnician
Vote: Babyhell
 
I'm thinking of voting Pyro just for the hell of it. Otherwise maybe D2DC.

Last choice is Babyhell on the grounds of IF he's mafia, we won't know it until the very end.

It's a shot in the dark really.
 
And the above post is without reading D2DC's post just above. Looking at it now.
 
Gorny said:
I'm thinking of voting Pyro just for the hell of it. Otherwise maybe D2DC.
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I knew I was probably raising some red flags for you. But, I did so intentionally to see how you'd react. Hopefully that means something to you.
 
D2DC said:
Zhao even said, "given the information up to this point". Nowhere in your response does it show that you've put any thought or analysis into your hypothetical targets based on THIS game.
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False.

Read statement about Pyro.

And I put myself, as asked, in the shoes of scums. They know who is who apart from the power roles. But maybe after saying I was wrong about stating obvious things at the start you will push on me because I didn't went far enough this time?

I mean...come on. Either there's still some salt from a past crusade (wait...did anyone say that we should not consider previous games while thinking about this one? But I'm ok with that, that's the gameS), or if you're town you're putting emphasis on the fact that I answered Zhao. Yeepee...

Anyway. Doing so you're starting to turn suspicious to me, but I won't follow that route for now. However Pyro and you seemed to have - yes, previous game again - the capability to read one another. IMO that could be beneficial to keep you both alive a day or two and see what happens.

Back to your initial remark: at that time when I posted at least, given the current read I had in the few minutes I had to throw an answer before basically now - and I need a rest, the meeting this morning was a success but very tiring, a lot of work those last two days - I don't see me stating something else.

However, being confident with my...way to do things (not saying if I'm wrong or right, I am on either side depending of the moment), asking me can put a focus on you, so maybe Zhao grabbed a pinch of scumminess doing so... but here again, as of now, nothing strong nor definitive.

Feel free to lynch me, but I'm town.
 
Day 1 votes:

Babyhell 2 (Pyrotechnician, D2DC)
D2DC 2 (coju, snickersnack)
Gorny 1 (Babyhell)

Players alive:

1. D2DC
2. Gorny
3. Noodle
4. Skjolde
5. coju
6. Zhao_Yue
7. Babyhell
8. snickersnack
9. Pyrotechnician

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch and 6 to lock (standard ruling here) (please correct me if wrong calculated)
 
snickersnack said:
Ah, once again you try to sway me with stats and probs. If I could vote for you twice, I would. I'll be watching you. 🔍 👀
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Well, I'm glad you don't have two votes then. :p

And, watch all you want, I have nothing to hide!
 
D2DC said:
Well, I'm glad you don't have two votes then. :p

And, watch all you want, I have nothing to hide!
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Also, I might point out, some might take that to mean that you have no power role, since hiding a power role from the scum would be wise.
 
Anyone know if WGG Wealth requires a police escort if they get robbed? Leopold Stotch wants to know.
 
D2DC said:
I have a few "leaning" feelings thus far, but nothing to hang my hat on. I feel like BH "setup analysis" was a bit suspect. However, based on all the notes/charts I saw him posting last game, I think that's just the way he does things.

I like my vote on Pyro at the moment. He's not really been bringing his A game lately. I always think he's a good townie to have around for sound analysis, but he kinda just coasted through last game until it was crunch time. Beyond him, snicker or Zhao would probably be two I'd like to hear more from. Both of them were super active last game, but pretty quiet so far. Could just be a bit of burn out though, it's still quite early.
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Help me understand your logic, pyro coasted last game hence that generates suspicion this game?

Noticed you didn't mention slippery Skjolde, is he relegated to honorable mention status now?

Babyhell said:
I guess if any of the scum read my PM role thread of previous, I'm quite high on the list.

I would go on a person who tries to analyze, or is known for that, but not the most obvious one, on N1. For example Pyro showed his abilities and is not showing off, so could be a good first target. I'd put afterwards a pack including Zhao, Skjolde, D2DC, and myself, and Gorny too as experienced player.

Then Snickersnack could be included soon, due to his ability to nicely hide last game.

Coju no, because he is scum, so he is of the equation for now. And his ability to be lynched is valuable for day phases...

Sorry for the others, I just made it quick before leaving home, with the names that STRUCK me ;-) !
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So you choose 7 out of 9 players, pretty generalized, I guess you didn't want to commit to 1 or 2?
 
Zhao_Yue said:
Help me understand your logic, pyro coasted last game hence that generates suspicion this game?

Noticed you didn't mention slippery Skjolde, is he relegated to honorable mention status now?
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How am I being slippery?
I think I participated a fair amount in the first 25 hours. Another fact is also that I am generally much more active in the week days, since I can do all my scum hunting sitting at the computer at work.
Basically we have a D1 during the weekend, which I think warrants a irregular amount of participation.
 
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