1.13 RoF Superchest Patterns

I wanted to finally post my Enigma that I made from my Jah earlier in this thread. I'm slowly catching up on sorting out everything (just spent ages sorting all my ATMA/GoMule stashes - GoMule helped a lot here and I'm now using GoMule pretty much all the time). I'm part way through sorting out my item/rune find screenshots (only several hundred more to goo_O) but without futher ado:

Code:
Enigma
Light Plate
'JahIthBer'
Defense: 879
Durability: 60 of 60
Required Strength: 41
Required Level: 65
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 85
Fingerprint: 0xdc6bbfde
+773 Defense
Damage Reduced by 8%
Increase Maximum Life 5%
+14 Life after each Kill
45% Faster Run/Walk
+1 to Teleport
15% Damage Taken Goes to Mana
+2 to All Skill Levels
+68 to Strength (Based on Character Level)
91% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items (Based on Character Level)
Socketed (3: 3 used)

Jah Rune
Inserted into a Light Plate

Increase Maximum Life 5%

Required Level: 65
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion

Ith Rune
Inserted into a Light Plate

15% Damage Taken Goes to Mana

Required Level: 15
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion

Ber Rune
Inserted into a Light Plate

Damage Reduced by 8%

Required Level: 63
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion

EDIT: Thanks to everyone who gave me advice on armour type - I went with Light Plate in case I want to use it on another character and to save on Strength since my heaviest item was Sacred Rondache at 109.
 
Congrats! Welcome to a completely new game, Enigma opens up tons of possibilities. You're going to use it on a Barb and make a dedicated RoF superchest runner now, right? ;)
 
@Pb_pal I've been using it on my Hammerdin to run RoF and Chaos Sanctuary. I created it shortly after getting the Jah but I hadn't had time to post all my item finds. Then a lucky drop in LK prompted me to catch up on my posts.
 
I really wonder, are we really sure rune 16 applies to these chests? Because it really looks like these chests drop from act 3 (h) chest C instead of act 4 (h) chest A. I have assigned runes 17 at my project to LK and I have a Cham and a Jah pattern after ~2.5K (=15K chests) test runs. Since I didn't modify the hr droprate at all it really looks like the vanilla rof chests drop up to runes 15 instead of 16...
 
That certainly helps helvete although I haven't seen proof of a poppable ever dropping higher as Ber in my whole vanilla d2 career. If what you say is true that would mean that people should run rof p5-6 for a Jah or Cham. I really can't believe after 7 Ohm patterns 3 Lo patterns and 2 Sur patterns that there aren't any Jah or Cham patterns. Poppables in rof have the same treasureclassEX line as superchests in the area so if you are certain they dropped a Jah then all runes up to Cham are theoretically possible and people should start running /p 6.
 
Jah was posted from a Hidden Stash/Bone Chest early in this thread if I recall ccorrectly.

You have to remember that most RoF maps have 1/3 of the Super Chests as LK, monsters are harsher so you have more aborted runs, and there isnt a safe zone to root around in your loot piles, so chances of missing are higher.

I agree the luck isn't looking great, but its not like there are a ton of Surs and Bers either. To flip your argument on its head, there are only 3 Ums and no Puls, so essentially small distribution is non-representative. Need more runs & runes
 
@Brak I think you're making a mistake by saying more runs at players 8. From what I see we have 70-80% of all patterns listed that drop at p7-8 based on the total amount of hrs. Lets say for example we have 10 unidentified patterns left and those are distrifuted completely random, that would mean that we have 10-15% chance at max to hit a Jah or Cham at p8. If I calculate there are 35-40 p8 patterns available (and suspect we are lucky with the big amount of patterns on lk) and we substract 20% of those on players 6 we find 28-32 patterns on players 6 total. That means we have atleast 27 unidentified patterns on p6 and an absolute maximum of 20 on p8 (10 or 15 is more likely(. So the odds for finding Jah or Cham on p6 are 1.5-2 times better as on p8!
 
No way we have 70-80% of patterns

LK has roughly 75 HR patterns at p7/8
RoF has 32 reported
We likely aren't even half way there yet
 
Have to agree with Brak here.

I would venture to guess LK has several hundred thousand runs behind it in total. I'd be surprised if we passed 20-25k runs here total, to be honest (I've done 6k myself, but I think I'm at the top end). It's such a small pool that you just can't know.

There is of course the chance that Jah/Cham patterns exist only on other non-/p7-8 players setting, or even only on a single one like /p1. In that respect, we may never know about them. It makes the most sense though to hammer away at a single setting rather than to bounce around to several. Since /p7-8 was so lucrative at LK, it only makes sense that we use that one here. Also, one of the most interesting things about these chests is that they've already shown to have more patterns for Ist, Ohm, and Lo at /p7 than LK. That, to me, is reason enough to keep running the /p7 setting just to see how much higher (if any) those numbers can go. It would be really interesting if a Sur-like outlier from LK happened here for a different (hopefully more useful) rune.

That said, I'd love it if somebody buckled down and really ran at another /p setting, but the forums just don't have the traffic that they used to for projects like these.
 
Prehaps after I have finished my project I'll do some p6 runs. I am still not convinced a p7-8 Jah and Cham pattern is more likely as a p6 one. Even if Brak's numbers are correct and there are indeed 75 patterns (which I doubt, 50-55 is the absolute max I guess) that means we have 60 pattens on p6 (20% less). By doing the math from Brak's numbers we have 59 unidentified p6 patterns and 42(!!) on players 8. P6 has an aditional 40% chance of dropping the desired hrs because there are just more new patterns available.
 
I would if there was at least one pattern, maybe, but that's because council is scary in HC, and I hate cubing bers
 
Did a set of 500 runs, came up with a new and an old pattern. (both /p7)

Cinco de Mal-o (Mal #5)
Confirming zticazzy's Sur #2


1.13 RoF Superchest Pattern Tables

[highlight]Players 1-2[/highlight]

Code:
Rune     Item #1           Item #2          Item #3          Item #4          Finder
Pul #1   Grim Shield       Hatchet          Long Sword       3 others         Ailelya
--
Um #1    Chain Mail        Diamond Bow                                        Ailelya
--
Mal #1   Bearded Axe       Gnarled Staff                                      mir

[highlight]Players 3-4[/highlight]

Code:
Rune     Item #1          Item #2          Item #3          Item #4           Finder
Ohm #1   Balanced Axe     Balanced Knife   2-Handed Sword                     Brak

[highlight]Players 5-6[/highlight]

Code:
Rune     Item #1          Item #2          Item #3          Item #4           Finder
Gul #1   Circlet          Pilum            Small Charm      -                 Grisu

[highlight]Players 7-8[/highlight]

Code:
Rune     Item #1           Item #2          Item #3          Item #4          Finder
Um #1    Elder Staff       Gothic Shield    Hydra Skull      Sabre            Grape
Um #2    Balrog Blade      Breast Plate     Dusk Shroud      7 others         Grisu
Um #3    Aerin Shield      Chu-Ko-Nu        Flail            5 others         NanoMist
---
Mal #1   Battle Dart       Bone Shield                                        Pb_pal
Mal #2   Blade Barrier     Great Maul       Long Sword       Razor Bow        zticazzy
Mal #3   Crossbow          Jo Staff         Tir Rune         2 others         zticazzy
Mal #4   Arbalest          Tir Rune         2-handed Axe     Lochaber Axe     Pb_pal
Mal #5   Amulet            Balrog Skin      Battle Scythe    4 others         Pb_pal
--
Ist #1   Ancient Shield    Brandistock                                        Pb_pal
Ist #2   Throwing Spear                                                       Grape
Ist #3   Balrog Blade      Pavise           Short Spear                       Brak
Ist #4   Battle Cestus     Blade Bow        Cedar Staff      5 others         Brak
Ist #5   Ghost Wand        Long War Bow     Scale Mail                        Brak
Ist #6   Brandistock       Preserved Head                                     NanoMist
Ist #7   Breast Plate      Silver-Edged Axe Ring                              Brak
--
Gul #1   Diamond Bow       Dusk Shroud      Francisca                         Pb_pal
Gul #2   Gauntlets         Great Pilum      Truncheon                         Brak
Gul #3   Double Axe        Flanged Mace     Grim Shield      3 others         Pb_pal
Gul #4   Demonhide Boots   Field Plate      Stygian Pike     3 others         Pb_pal
Gul #5   Gothic Shield     Pilum            Stygian Pike                      Brak
--
Vex #1   Antlers           Falcata          Ring             Silver-Edged Axe Pb_pal
--
Ohm #1   Cantor Trophy     Ring                                               Pb_pal
Ohm #2   Dimensional Blade Jewel            Tiara            (Scimitar?)      zticazzy
Ohm #3   Balanced Knife                                                       Pb_pal
Ohm #4   Balrog Skin       Broad Sword      Devil Star       4 others         Pb_pal
Ohm #5   Bone Shield       Defender         Dragon Shield    5 others         NanoMist
Ohm #6   Bearded Axe       Mesh Belt        Spetum                            Pb_pal
Ohm #7   Bone Helm         Devil Star       Great Axe        3 others         NanoMist
--
Lo #1    War Staff                                                            Brak
Lo #2    Crown             Hatchet Hands    War Staff                         Grape
Lo #3    Large Charm       Ring Mail        Wyrmhide Boots                    Grape
--
Sur #1   Edge Bow                                                             Pb_pal
Sur #2   Amn Rune          Chain Mail       Full Helm                         zticazzy
 
RoF has been super stingy as of late. But I did get the first p7 Pul pattern onto the board. I'm sure everyone will be clamoring to run RoF now

yippie


1.13 RoF Superchest Pattern Tables

[highlight]Players 1-2[/highlight]

Code:
Rune     Item #1           Item #2          Item #3          Item #4          Finder
Pul #1   Grim Shield       Hatchet          Long Sword       3 others         Ailelya
--
Um #1    Chain Mail        Diamond Bow                                        Ailelya
--
Mal #1   Bearded Axe       Gnarled Staff                                      mir

[highlight]Players 3-4[/highlight]

Code:
Rune     Item #1          Item #2          Item #3          Item #4           Finder
Ohm #1   Balanced Axe     Balanced Knife   2-Handed Sword                     Brak

[highlight]Players 5-6[/highlight]

Code:
Rune     Item #1          Item #2          Item #3          Item #4           Finder
Gul #1   Circlet          Pilum            Small Charm      -                 Grisu

[highlight]Players 7-8[/highlight]

Code:
Rune     Item #1           Item #2          Item #3          Item #4          Finder
Pul #1   Chaos Armor       Executioner SwordExecutioner Sword2 others         Brak
---
Um #1    Elder Staff       Gothic Shield    Hydra Skull      Sabre            Grape
Um #2    Balrog Blade      Breast Plate     Dusk Shroud      7 others         Grisu
Um #3    Aerin Shield      Chu-Ko-Nu        Flail            5 others         NanoMist
---
Mal #1   Battle Dart       Bone Shield                                        Pb_pal
Mal #2   Blade Barrier     Great Maul       Long Sword       Razor Bow        zticazzy
Mal #3   Crossbow          Jo Staff         Tir Rune         2 others         zticazzy
Mal #4   Arbalest          Tir Rune         2-handed Axe     Lochaber Axe     Pb_pal
Mal #5   Amulet            Balrog Skin      Battle Scythe    4 others         Pb_pal
--
Ist #1   Ancient Shield    Brandistock                                        Pb_pal
Ist #2   Throwing Spear                                                       Grape
Ist #3   Balrog Blade      Pavise           Short Spear                       Brak
Ist #4   Battle Cestus     Blade Bow        Cedar Staff      5 others         Brak
Ist #5   Ghost Wand        Long War Bow     Scale Mail                        Brak
Ist #6   Brandistock       Preserved Head                                     NanoMist
Ist #7   Breast Plate      Silver-Edged Axe Ring                              Brak
--
Gul #1   Diamond Bow       Dusk Shroud      Francisca                         Pb_pal
Gul #2   Gauntlets         Great Pilum      Truncheon                         Brak
Gul #3   Double Axe        Flanged Mace     Grim Shield      3 others         Pb_pal
Gul #4   Demonhide Boots   Field Plate      Stygian Pike     3 others         Pb_pal
Gul #5   Gothic Shield     Pilum            Stygian Pike                      Brak
--
Vex #1   Antlers           Falcata          Ring             Silver-Edged Axe Pb_pal
--
Ohm #1   Cantor Trophy     Ring                                               Pb_pal
Ohm #2   Dimensional Blade Jewel            Tiara            (Scimitar?)      zticazzy
Ohm #3   Balanced Knife                                                       Pb_pal
Ohm #4   Balrog Skin       Broad Sword      Devil Star       4 others         Pb_pal
Ohm #5   Bone Shield       Defender         Dragon Shield    5 others         NanoMist
Ohm #6   Bearded Axe       Mesh Belt        Spetum                            Pb_pal
Ohm #7   Bone Helm         Devil Star       Great Axe        3 others         NanoMist
--
Lo #1    War Staff                                                            Brak
Lo #2    Crown             Hatchet Hands    War Staff                         Grape
Lo #3    Large Charm       Ring Mail        Wyrmhide Boots                    Grape
--
Sur #1   Edge Bow                                                             Pb_pal
Sur #2   Amn Rune          Chain Mail       Full Helm                         zticazzy
 
Now my development is done, I would like to know how many attempts it took to get a decent ROF map. I already tried to roll a decent one 30 times, but there wheren't any superchests. Then I'll try doing some \p6 runs.
 
Now my development is done, I would like to know how many attempts it took to get a decent ROF map. I already tried to roll a decent one 30 times, but there wheren't any superchests. Then I'll try doing some \p6 runs.

I got my map in <15 minutes, IIRC. I know others had some trouble finding one though. The good thing for map hunting here is it's extremely straight forward as you either get it or you don't instead of trying to increase the efficiency of your map in LK and other areas. Take a few teles down, if the formation isn't there, rinse and repeat.

Don't hold out for Brak's 3 chest map, that's definitely an anomaly.

Looking forward to having a new setting run though, I'll be very interested to see how the patterns stack up!
 
Thanks :),

25 more attempts did the trick and I got a normal 2 chest map. I guess this one does seems to be alright, doesn't it? Did 30 testruns on players 6. Is it normal that Grotesques block you from clicking the chests?

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