1.07 News, Info and Gossip

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I've being MP questing alone or with janooo and/or frozzzen. Also had a big help from mister K.

So always playing with high p settings (having from 4 to 8 players in game) and the game IS hard. Got +1skills, one more level and will have +1 sorc also. Also got 20fcr circlet, 20fcr life orb, so with rings and amulet can reach 37 or 63 BPs. Also got some nice orbs for casting cold armors.

About "p setting". Is it equal to number of players in game or in area?

NM cows give a lot of XP (we had 3 in area and some more in town) and we got an Amn rune :)

Today I was amazed when a 35max dmg GC dropped while me and janooo were fighting for our lives in NM CS (p6). It was slow and hard, but manageable. Most deaths were from lag (janooo) or clicking outside of window (me). The ghosty boss was very hard compared to Lord DeSeis and the other one (inferno casting horny dude).

Next will be anya, ancients and baal killing with 4 chars (only one char already has it). Than cow running a lot and venture to Hell.

Btw, some questions more:
Shield can get only 3os right? Best place to shop them?
Max sockets in body armors? Best place to shop them? Filling this with PTopazes will make difference in drops?
 
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zemaj said:
Nightmare Act Bosses will drop all sets+ with 225%MF... Random Unique/Champ packs in Hell will drop all sets+ with (some largish amount of MF that I can't recall atm) and can drop from up to TC 65, so that will be the best time to start doing MF runs.
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Wasn't it 127% for NM Act Bosses to drop all sets? For unique/champion packs in hell the breakpoint is 376% if I remember correctly. I'm too lazy to look it up now, but it should be mentioned several times in this thread as well as in one (or both) of the 1.07 guides.


 
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Time for a question I should know the answer to, which ATMA works with 1.07?

Thanks in advance

EDIT:
also anyone got a link to a 1.07 d2gfx.dll, only 1.09b onwards are listed in the sticky
 
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@scottee: Blizzard will work...really, ANY cold attack spell can work for a sorc, because of the way cold mastery breaks cold immunity. Sorcs just don't have to worry about cold immunity...in fact, you'll find lightning immunes to be FAR more annoying and dangerous, as they can't be static'd down. That said, Kimppi is right on with the AOE and ease of targeting that FO offers. Heck, I'd be willing to bet that a FN sorc would work better in the long run than blizzard...

1.07 is stingy...good drops are rare, and Act Bosses drop from the same TC that they do in Normal, even in Hell (thus the 'nothing from over TC39'...only Baal drops that high). Drops from other mobs are 'capped' at TC66 (actually, the drop tables only go that high...1.07 is an 'unfinished' patch, lol). OTOH, in hell, 556%MF forces Uniques from act bosses, and 374%MF gets sets from superuniques and regular bosses.

I did find the Spirit Shoud from normal Diablo, and found it quite useful...

@Nulio: although there is no '/playersX', MPing will give the same as in later patches: each player in game counts for monster HP and XP always, and for better drops if partied and 'in area'...however, 'in area' pretty much means exactly that in 1.07, rather than the ~3 screen range of later patches...a toon standing at the foot of the RoF stairs is 'in area' for kills right outside the Chaos Sanctuary.

Sheild sockets seem to be pretty much the same as later patches, except elite (non-pally)shields are limited to 3 sox...still not 100% sure about Ward (just can't seem to get a Ward rack) and Blade Barrier and Troll Nest can't get sox at all.

Body armor sox seem to be the same as later patches...topazes DO help with more blues and yellows, but not so much with greens and golds unless you hit certain breakpoints in NM and Hell difficulty.

@LHtB: AtmaV works fine for me...I have AtmaIV and have been considering installing it, though I don't remember which version required it...

I do wish AtmaV recognized prefixes and listed somewhat accurate rlvls on items, does anyone know if AtmaIV is better at this for 1.07? It would really help in digging up twink gear for trade (nothing like grabbing a crafted item that looks like it'd be good for twinking, only to discover it requires clvl 56 in game) :rolleyes:
 
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Any tips for a nice end-game weapon for a WW-barb? I'm currently using a Butcher's Pupil and thinking if I should drop last points to Axe mastery or hold up for now.
 
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Sooner (or later) I am going to hunt for 1.07 Harlequin Crest and Vampire Gaze.

Is it possible to get from Hell boses?
 
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purplelocust said:
Harlequin Crest and Vampire Gaze (TC 60 both): racks are your only hope.
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Well, I have seen white/blue ones in the cow level for sure. I think they can drop, but even with enough mf there will still be a 500:1 shot that it will be unique.

Kimppi said:
Any tips for a nice end-game weapon for a WW-barb? I'm currently using a Butcher's Pupil and thinking if I should drop last points to Axe mastery or hold up for now.
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I suggest shopping for a cruel exceptional (or maybe an elite if you see one, but don't hold your breath) and punching holes in it to reach the speed breakpoint. I have shopped a cruel lance with over 400 max damage, and of course it rolled 3 sockets. A cruel executioner sword also got 3 sockets, and its average damage wasn't that short of what the lance was putting out, and 3 Shaes would let that hit the lwbp. I really want to get an eth rune in my endgame weapon though.

An equally viable option is racking a BK sword or IK maul, and those (should) have crushing blow. They only get 1 socket, but already have ias on them.

Another option is to craft, but getting high ed has been tough for me, and then most crafts have some kind of ctc which would ruin ww. I still have not found a good weapon for my ww barb.



 
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purplelocust said:
Harlequin Crest and Vampire Gaze (TC 60 both): racks are your only hope.
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Code: 
Vampire Gaze
Grim Helm
Defense: 252
Durability: 40 of 40
Required Strength: 58
Required Level: 41
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 90
Fingerprint: 0x663bc980
+100% Enhanced Defense
Magic Damage Reduced by 15
Damage Reduced by 25%
8% Life stolen per hit
8% Mana stolen per hit
15% Slower Stamina Drain

My Gaze dropped from cows. Extremely lucky drop, though.

I suggest shopping for a cruel exceptional (or maybe an elite if you see one, but don't hold your breath) and punching holes in it to reach the speed breakpoint. I have shopped a cruel lance with over 400 max damage, and of course it rolled 3 sockets. A cruel executioner sword also got 3 sockets, and its average damage wasn't that short of what the lance was putting out, and 3 Shaes would let that hit the lwbp. I really want to get an eth rune in my endgame weapon though.
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Code: 
Prefix 869 (Cruel) Martel de Fer
Two-Hand Damage: 242 to 394
Durability: 60 of 60
Required Strength: 169
Required Level: 25
Mace Class - Slow Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 73
Fingerprint: 0x50f100f3
+298% Enhanced Damage
150% Damage to Undead
Socketed (4: 0 used)

Will suit my WW bard well. Pretty sure I shopped this and Larzuk punched the holes in it.

Btw - you can shop elte bows, so actually it is possible roll some pretty awesome Hydra bow craft. My 1st Hydra-craft is decent:

Code: 
Brimstone Song
Hydra Bow
Two-Hand Damage: 39 to 268
Required Dexterity: 161
Required Strength: 134
Required Level: 74
Bow Class - Slow Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 47
Fingerprint: 0x24486592
+18 to Life
+295% Enhanced Damage
3% Life stolen per hit
43% Damage to Undead
+71 to Attack Rating against Undead

Still waits to be taken to Larzuk, I hope for 3 socs.


 
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Kimppi said:
Any tips for a nice end-game weapon for a WW-barb? I'm currently using a Butcher's Pupil and thinking if I should drop last points to Axe mastery or hold up for now.
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The best is probably Bul-Kathos' Sacred Charge because it will reach the last bp with a shael and has the most important mod in 1.07 (35% crushing blow)and ofcourse can be racked. It has ok damage and 20 to all resistances which is not shabby either..

Other wise shopping for a blue as others has said. I was lucky to shop 2 cruel ancient axes of quickness (use one on my barb) but they cant really beat Bul-Kathos' Sacred Charge in 1.07.

The big downside is ofcourse the level req...

I also think i remember that dualwielding and WW is not good as only main weapon damage is used



 
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Cool, I actually forgot that I have a BKSC on my Sorc's merc, never found him useful enough to bother resurrecting. Level won't be a problem either, the barb is 82 currently from sitting in the cow level.

Might have to do some shopping too then....and rush some socket quests.
 
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zemaj said:
go for the crafts! Major awesomeness potential there... imagine a GPA (or weapon of choice... GPA just has good speed, range, and is shopable) with high Cruel + Fool's/Grinding(Screaming) + Quickness AND it will get 3sox from Larzuk. (excuse me while I wipe my chin...)

If you use the Safety formula, it will help keep you alive as well (Blood too, particularly if it bugs). Just stay away from the Hit Power crafts, as the CtC FN will interrupt your Whirl and it should be a fairly good method for getting an awesome beat-stick.

oh, and for the record, the Hit Power craft is the only one with any CtC :wink: (as an automod anyway... any of them can spawn it as an affix, unfortunately)
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If it where me I would save the craft components for bows. Reason is that crushing blow is just to good in 1.07 (scales with players and ignores Phys resists) so the weapon will not be better in 1.07 anyway. If you plan to use it in 1.13 you will never be able to beat grief and other runewords anyway.

The only other weapons that could be great is Bear/wolf weapons like GT, Champion axe etc.



 
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Shako is TC66, so it is among the very highest qlvl items that can drop...I see them in the cow level not that infrequently...Grim Helms are TC51, so they can also drop...but never from Act Bosses. Even so, racking is by far the most likely way to get those uniques.

I've never checked the stats on a 1.07 VampGaze...I'm definitely gonna have to add that to my rack list!

I did look up the MF breakpoints: 127% gets lower TC set items from act bosses in Nightmare...this is your best source for Death's gloves and sash, Vidala's armor, Arctic armor, etc. 374% gets higher TC set items from Superuniques and Uniques in Hell...full Sigon's, some IK items, some Mavina's items, full Orphan's, etc. 556% gets uniques from act bosses in Hell, with the caveat that they only drop from the same TC that they do in Normal, so you can get your normal uniques, but few exceptional, and no elite uniques this way. Unique jewelry can also be farmed this way.

@Kimmpi: Butcher's Pupil is a very nice weapon, but I'd hold off on dumping points to axe mastery just yet...if you have any hard points in it at all, you've already got full CS from the mastery bug, and I am almost certain that the highest damage weapons possible in 1.07 are crafted Colossus Blades or Giant Threshers, by a significant margin...of course, these weapons will require a minimum character level of 76, as rlvl=qlvl for elite 1.07 weapons (but they WILL be LWBP capable, as Larzuk will always put 3 holes in them...)

I've been wanting to do some more crafting, and I had noticed that there was a demand for some starter twinking gear lately, so I decided to do some HF rushes this weekend, getting the socket quests along the way to make some nice poison bows. As usual, the best ones (dual poison affixes, cold/poison combos, or poison/CtCAmp) all got 1 or 2 sockets, but I did whip up some fairly nice ones for trade...I also made some nice twinking ammys with the prismatic formula, and a nice pile of runes for crafting. I decided to level up a bit in the cow level first...and I guess the RNG decided to make up for the bad socket rolls: WOOOOOOOT!!!! This is the highest rune I've gotten in 1.07 (yes, I've got a stack of Um's from HF rushing, but thats as high as HF goes in 1.07), so this was nice, and its a very useful rune to boot!!

WoRG
 
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Aha, sorry for the misinformation about Vampire Gaze and Harlequin Crest, I was looking at TCs from a newer version! I've pretty sure I've never seen a Harlequin Crest drop in cows and I've played a lot of 1.07 cows at high player counts...

@WoRG: magic item socket rolls can be heartbreaking. I've had too many Cruel xxx of Quickness get less than 4 sockets. Particularly for ethereals...
 
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zemaj said:
First, how is a bow of any use to a Whirler? :wink:

As to the rest, I have to disagree. I mean, if you are only interested in playing zons/druids, then yeah, by all means. However, crushing blow is just as good for any class as it is for these, not to mention available from a variety of sources aside from a weapon, and I personally find other classes much more enjoyable (so far anyway, been meaning to start a fury wolf & the patch notes from 1.08 WoRG posted the other day have done nothing but increase my interest). Even then, the same GPA I was theorizing about would work just as good for a fury wolf as it would for a whirly barb. Could it be as awesome as a GT? I don't know, do you know what affixes are possible on all of these weapons to compare side-by-side? If so, I think I speak for everyone here when I say "please, share this info!". We can theorize about how the low ilvl will be compensated by higher qlvl, but in the end, until someone can compile a list of all possible affixes on each base item, it's all conjecture. Until then, I don't think that writing off anything that is not your first choice, or the popular choice, is a prudent idea... there is so much potential in 1.07 crafting that, afiak, hasn't even been delved into yet, mainly because so many options have been written off summarily before full consideration.

Finally, 1.07 crafts may not be as powerful as some runewords in later patches, but comparatively the craft is just dripping with style & awesomeness... I mean everyone & their dog has a Grief PB, how many people have a 580%ED + 40ias Colossus Blade that still has 3 sockets worth of options? (that would hit the last wwbp by itself, so stick 3xOhm in those sockets & you just got 730%ED... grand total of 207-539 {373avg}... thats not so far from Grief as may be thought, indeed if you get a high roll {not even max} on your damage, its more than a perfect Grief PB max damage roll. Also, would be among the most insane Vengeance weapons ever, if ww isn't your cup of tea)

@ WoRG: very nice rune! Any plans for it, or going to let it gather e-dust for awhile?
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Whirling with a bow that would have been cool though :). Putting the string around monsters neck and wirling around hehe..

All very good points m8. My point may have been expressed abit wrong (as you say because my own goals with crafting was probably the culprit). My point was that if you are in search of the best possible weapon in any patch for your craft bows is imo the best weapon to craft. And that because crafting materials is not in greatest supply i just wanted to perhaps remind folks about this. But ofcourse we all have different goals with the crafts as you pointed out.

Also i am definately not an expert if affixes suffixes or the mechanics behind crafting.

But regarding that a discussion (maybe in this thread) between i think Worg and Baquarah (spelled wrong) delved deep in trying to understand how 1.07 works with crafts and was very informative. Worg was it in this thread?

Anyho. Best of luck with your Gp craft.:thumbup:

PS the best craft i have gotten in this patch was 350ish Ed (on Matriarcal Javelin and Hydra Bow). Both were with Orts i think i remember.



 
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Thx for the info.

I see there is a lot of racking ahead me!

For the moment, I have just one 1.07 char in Hell. She (sorc) has not so bad LK map, with very stable diadem rack. I try from time to time to rack some nice 3skills/20fcr diadem with her...
 
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Btw i think we should all share our best 1.07 crafts for fun:nod:.

I cant share mine (with pictures) right now as my saves are one a pc that is not feeling to well but will be replaced soon (praying that the saves are ok).
 
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Also to all that crafts a little reminder! Pick up ALL rubys and save them!!!!

That is actually the ingredient i am lacking most :(..
 
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