I love these statements, because they imply that you already know he'll flip town.
I see your ability as more town than scum which is why I voted the way I did, just venting because I hate having my hands forced is all.
I love these statements, because they imply that you already know he'll flip town.
Regardless of logouts flip, I still feel CG's ability isn't especially beneficial to scum, and basically makes him seem extremely townie to me.
Why the rush penguin? we aren't thru half the day iirc.
So what if he is neutral, and this is tied to some kind of win-con?
Why did you have to say this. Couldn't you give me a chance to make a full claim in response to my impending doom?
I'll say this. It is a shot. I can choose to be NK-Immune or not. I used 1 shot the first night, because I was scared after the first game. Afterwords, I decided that was a bad move, as last game, I did cause at least 1 townie to get lynched for the mafia. Smart for them to leave me alive, because I am always read scummy, and might cause another mis-lynch in their favor.
N2, I did not use a shot. I still have shots left.
Neutrals get their win-con sometimes in these games,haven't seen it stop the game from going on,whats your point?
Neutrals get their win-con sometimes in these games,haven't seen it stop the game from going on,whats your point?
The person using this power is betting that they can target a scum. There is no way for this person to KNOW that his target is scum, unless he is an aligment cop, and even then, it can still be inaccurate. That means town has to be willing to risk losing one of their own, for the chance at lynching someone that ideally is NOT town aligned. This is a big risk, and I don't see the moderators including this without some huge potential payout/reward for a successful result. It's also claimed that it resets the votes, and forces votes on either himself, or his target. So, that can be used to rescue himself or a perceived team-mate, and possibly cause a no-lynch.
This makes the most sense to me from a game-play mechanics perspective. Scum know who is not scum, so they can potentially use this to greater effect than a townie ever could. It makes more sense from a moderation point-of-view. Granted, the scum is still at risk, but KNOWING who is NOT mafia makes this power make sense, again, if it functions the way it is described.
This also makes more sense than a townie power, just due to the nature of how it functions. A neutral has no teammates, and is generally regarded as self-aligned, and on one's own. This scenario works from a moderator's point of view, because the neutral has no extra information, other than what he can gather on his own/deduce from the thread, so it's balanced.
My point is, I don't understand it as a townie power, if it functions as described. Bear with me, I know how much you guys hate "thinking out loud" and theorycrafting, but w.e.
As a townie power:
Code:The person using this power is betting that they can target a scum. There is no way for this person to KNOW that his target is scum, unless he is an aligment cop, and even then, it can still be inaccurate. That means town has to be willing to risk losing one of their own, for the chance at lynching someone that ideally is NOT town aligned. This is a big risk, and I don't see the moderators including this without some huge potential payout/reward for a successful result. It's also claimed that it resets the votes, and forces votes on either himself, or his target. So, that can be used to rescue himself or a perceived team-mate, and possibly cause a no-lynch.
As a scum power:
Code:This makes the most sense to me from a game-play mechanics perspective. Scum know who is not scum, so they can potentially use this to greater effect than a townie ever could. It makes more sense from a moderation point-of-view. Granted, the scum is still at risk, but KNOWING who is NOT mafia makes this power make sense, again, if it functions the way it is described.
As a neutral power:
Code:This also makes more sense than a townie power, just due to the nature of how it functions. A neutral has no teammates, and is generally regarded as self-aligned, and on one's own. This scenario works from a moderator's point of view, because the neutral has no extra information, other than what he can gather on his own/deduce from the thread, so it's balanced.
I know we can't ASSUME anything about the setup of the game, but I just don't see this as a townie power without the same person being some sort of alignment cop, or at the very least, having 1 shot of alignment read.
Why did you bring it up though? Regardless of how many shots you may or may not have left, you've just removed the possibility of making scum waste an NK on you. If not for that claim, I don't believe CG would have put you on the spot right now and almost definitely guaranteed your lynch today.
A fight has started between Caluin Graye and logoutzero.
All previous votes have been cleared. The only two people who can be voted for during the remainder of the day phase are Caluin Graye and logoutzero.
The player with the majority number of votes at the end of the day phase will be lynched.
I don't see this is any less of a town aligned ability than vigilante shots would be. Those are given to individuals without the ability to check alignment all the time.
Do the votes made after the Fight was declared but before this announcement count?A fight has started between Caluin Graye and logoutzero.
All previous votes have been cleared. The only two people who can be voted for during the remainder of the day phase are Caluin Graye and logoutzero.
The player with the majority number of votes at the end of the day phase will be lynched.
I can see that scum may be tempted not to waste an NK on me, but, eventually, they will have to, if they want me dead. The second part, I don't follow. Are you saying that had I not claimed NK-Immune ever, that you wouldn't think I was scum?
So, I guess it comes down to CG vs. myself. Here goes nothing.
My name is Colossus, and I am town aligned. I have the power, as a mutant, of Armored Transformation. That power, grants me the ability to, during the night phase, become NK-Immune from "almost everything." It has a limited amount of shots.
It was reiterated that my transformation turns my body into metal. I think this ties into the Metal Control power that Magneto had, but I can't be sure.
I would ask CG to make a claim, but as I cannot see this being a townie power, I doubt he will.
Agreed. Logout is scum.
Vote: Logoutzero
I can see that scum may be tempted not to waste an NK on me, but, eventually, they will have to, if they want me dead.
I can see that scum may be tempted not to waste an NK on me, but, eventually, they will have to, if they want me dead. The second part, I don't follow. Are you saying that had I not claimed NK-Immune ever, that you wouldn't think I was scum?
So, I guess it comes down to CG vs. myself. Here goes nothing.
My name is Colossus, and I am town aligned. I have the power, as a mutant, of Armored Transformation. That power, grants me the ability to, during the night phase, become NK-Immune from "almost everything." It has a limited amount of shots.
It was reiterated that my transformation turns my body into metal. I think this ties into the Metal Control power that Magneto had, but I can't be sure.
I would ask CG to make a claim, but as I cannot see this being a townie power, I doubt he will.
Do the votes made after the Fight was declared but before this announcement count?
iow: what's the count?
Do the votes made after the Fight was declared but before this announcement count?
iow: what's the count?