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Piles of Money Tourney

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Thread originally posted by @purplelocust on June 26, 2007


Piles of Money Tourney

A Very Simple Tourney: The Piles of Money Tourney!

Various discussions of goldfinding methods and techniques suggest that it's time for a very simple tourney. The object is to get as much gold as possible in a 30 minute continuous stretch of play.

The guidelines:

  • All classes allowed, but anyone with any sense expects barbs to excel.
  • All areas permitted, but most people would expect the Hell Council to be the best for gold hauling.
  • No multi-player- it's just your character and a bank account.
  • Existing characters of HC/SC, any version are eligible, and Vanilla/RRM/RWM/CRM are allowed.
  • Get your character ready to go, set a timer, play for 30 minutes, and calculate the total gold accumulated at the end of 30 minutes.
  • Any player setting may be used, at any time.
  • Save and exit is allowed.
  • TPing from the belt is allowed.
  • Killing monsters at /players 1 and popping chests at /players 8 is allowed. (For once! But it won't do you much good.)
  • Dying is allowed. But there isn't any money to be made there.

Rules and timing:
  • Spend all the time you want building, equipping, and preparing your character.
  • When ready for an effort, look at a clock, begin playing and gathering gold by any means possible.
  • No selling of prepurchased items, but selling of items found in the 30 minute period is permitted.
  • ATMA and GoMule are permitted only for the purposes of removing gold from your character, and their use counts towards your 30 minute timed effort.
  • No suspending of time- if the phone rings or a puppy starts eating your shoes, you can either ignore it or deal with it as part of your 30 minute effort.
  • Multiple efforts are permitted.
  • Multiple characters are permitted, but each effort can use only a single character.
  • Adjusting gear and strategy is permitted and encouraged.
  • Any partial effort counts as a full effort and should be reported. Good faith efforts should be made to complete efforts once begun. Interrupting an effort out of frustration or a bad string of drops is not good form.
  • Gold totals are from gold picked up plus any gold from vendors obtained by selling items to them. Any item not sold to a vendor doesn't count towards your accumulated gold. The time spent selling items counts towards the 30 minute limit.
  • Costs of resurrecting mercs, deaths, repairing items, potions and other supplies must be deducted from accumulated gold, if any of these expenses are incurred.

Just to be clear: any method of accumulating gold is permitted. If you want to pick up chipped gems and minor mana potions with a new level 1 character in the normal Blood Moor and sell them to Akara, that is fine. There are probably faster ways of accumulating gold, though!


Scoring

  • Keep track of the gold on your character when you start your effort.
  • At the end of the effort, count the gold on your character and muled off during your effort.
  • Subtract your original gold on the character from your accumulated gold. That's it!
  • Keep track of your best 30 minute effort, and record the number of efforts made. If desired, you can keep track of average gold found over a number of efforts with the same character and equipment.


Resources




Comments:

  • I don't actually have a decent dedicated GF barb at the moment, so I'm hoping to use this as an impetus to build one. I have a 1.07 horker for NM council runs there, but that's mostly for charms, getting crafting runes and jewels and is not focused on gold. I'm hoping to learn from the experts and build a proper GF barb!
  • Descriptions of builds, targets and techniques are welcome!
  • Of course, the idea is to balance maximizing GF% with maximizing killing speed.
  • If there is sufficient interest, separating the tables into divisions may be warranted, and suggestions are welcome. Barbs/non-barbs or SC/HC are natural potential divisions.
  • When you sign up or report a score, give at least a brief description of your build and plan.
  • If you are having trouble spending all the gold you get, I suggest gambling!

Clarifications:
  • None yet, but I'm sure there are things I forgot to mention and I can put them here later when I realize my mistakes or ambiguities.

Signup and timing
Starting now, and carrying on until June 15th, 2009. Hopefully that will give me enough time to build a reasonably decent GF barb!

Trophy
No prizes, but for the best single effort, there will be a personalized trophy of some appropriate type. Keeping track of the biggest single pile of gold is also welcome, but for scoring the object is to get the most gold in a 30 minute period.

Scoring Table

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|  forum name     | character       |  best effort | # efforts | avg. effort |
|-----------------|-----------------|--------------|-----------|-------------|
|purplelocust     | ?????         |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |
Good luck to anyone who chooses to join, and may the New Year find us all rolling in piles of gold!
 
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Re: Piles of Money Tourney

[highlight]Scoring Table[/highlight]

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|  forum name     | character      |  best effort | # efforts | avg. effort |
|-----------------|----------------|--------------|-----------|-------------|
|purplelocust     | ?????            |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |
|SnickerSnack     | Cortez         |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |
I'm sure I won't win, since I don't have great gf gear/charms, but this should be fun anyway.

How about we add "build" to the table? Warcry, leap, frenzy, necro.....
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Very cool idea. I have yet to make a GF character (in part due to not having a clvl93 toon for ammy gambling yet, but I'm close. Wait, it IS 93, right? That feels wrong now that I say it), so as you said this might be great motivation eventually.

I won't join just yet since there's a lot on my plate in both RL and D2, but I'll be keeping an eye on this for sure!!

Good luck to all participants!! 👍
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[highlight]Scoring Table[/highlight]

Sounds fun! Added myself in the table and added a "build" column.

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|  forum name     | character      |  best effort | # efforts | avg. effort |build  |
|-----------------|----------------|--------------|-----------|-------------|-------|
|purplelocust     | ?????          |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |       |
|SnickerSnack     | Cortez         |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |       |
|zerth            | ScroogeMcDuckII|          0 gp|       0   |          0  |Warcry |
@TheReadMenace: clvl 93 will make sure that the ammies you craft with the ones you gamble have ilvl90+. For gambling ammies you need clvl 95. I hope that made sense, no coffee yet :whistling:
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|  forum name     | character      |  best effort | # efforts | avg. effort |build  |
|-----------------|----------------|--------------|-----------|-------------|-------|
|purplelocust     | ?????          |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |       |
|SnickerSnack     | Cortez         |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |Warcry       |
|zerth            | ScroogeMcDuckII|          0 gp|       0   |          0  |Warcry |
TRM: The level 93 thing is really only needed for bnet players since they can't see the ilvl of their gambles. You can gamble at level 90 (probably) and then just pick out the ammies with the highest ilvls. For crafting.
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|  forum name     | character      |  best effort | # efforts | avg. effort |build  |
|-----------------|----------------|--------------|-----------|-------------|-------|
|Fabian           | GoldBarb       |     8,087,365|       1   |    8,087,365|Warcry |
|purplelocust     | ?????          |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |       |
|SnickerSnack     | Cortez         |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |Warcry       |
|zerth            | ScroogeMcDuckII|          0 gp|       0   |          0  |Warcry |
Leveled an old Warcry GF barb I abandoned a while ago, re-equipped him and took him out for a spin in NM Trav, p7. Went reasonably well, 27½ runs and about 300k per run on average.

Strategy was simple, teleport on top of the council, sometimes Warcry a bit (I didn't use this much to be honest), and pick up gold piles and hork bodies as they dropped. GF was 2602/2514 on merc kills/horks (yup, only ** GF on the merc, didn't even socket the Crown of Thieves).

All in all, not bad at all, but if the real GF barbs participate they will blow this score out of the water obviously.

Fwiw equipment was Lem'ed Crystal Swords (echoing + HoTo on switch), Wealth, CoT, Crafted GF/Teleport ammy, Dwarf Stars, Chance Guards, Rare Belt and Boots. Merc had eth Obedience, Fortitude, CoT. 561 GF from charms, plus Horadric Cube.
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|  forum name     | character      |  best effort | # efforts | avg. effort |build  |
|-----------------|----------------|--------------|-----------|-------------|-------|
|Fabian           | GoldBarb       |     8,087,365|       1   |    8,087,365|Warcry |
|purplelocust     | ?????          |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |       |
|SnickerSnack     | Cortez         |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |Warcry |
|zerth            | ScroogeMcDuckII|          0 gp|       0   |          0  |Warcry |
|Corrupted        | Majestic       |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |WW     |
I don't expect to come out on top of this as I optimized my barb for p3 hell runs as I wanted to have a shot at runes at the same time. setup is here

I changed his gear a bit since to get more gf% when horking.
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I am in. I can see this is that kind of "lets find out how far can we push it" tourney, and Id like to be part of it.

However, in the spirit of this tournament, I wont make a GF barb. Instead, I will take the role of an opponent to this approach! Someone has to boldly go where no man has gone before!

I have already made a test run with my absolutely ordinary MF trapper, which consisted of /p1 eldrich and pindle. I picked up anything of some value (armors, orbs, circlets etc) selling the items to vendors. The final score was 1,137,759 which seems fairly low compared to pure GF character - but ... and there are two notable butts (ahm):
  • Im sure I can double this with some practice. Also Im sure I can quadruple this (or even more) with something like 105 fcr infinity lightning sorc, which I planned a long time and now with the main piece of gear I can jazz it (even though Im short of one certain golden diadem, one godly crafted amulet and so on).

  • There are other things money cant buy you can find (and I did in those first 30 minutes), taking this route. Like

    Natalya's Shadow
    Loricated Mail

    Crown of Thieves
    Grand Crown

    Boneflesh
    Plate Mail

Which finally brought me to an idea. Of course, this only apply if purplelocust, our honourable host, will agree. I am willing to stash all green and golden stuff I found during the tournament and let the winner take one item of his choice from it (This depends on number of participants and can grow slightly 👍). Any. I dont reserve anything for myself, should it be even griffons or such. Let those three be the base for the beginning. Oh, and the itamz are 1.12 RRM/RWM SC.

But it wouldnt be fun without butt eh? :D The final score for all non-barbarian classes tripples. Oh yeah. If I get 5 mils, you haxorz will have to hork 15+. No, its not fair, live with it :D Of course, rules allow you to try more that one character, mmmkay?

Sooo? Watcha guys think :scratchchin:
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|  forum name     | character      |  best effort | # efforts | avg. effort |build  |
|-----------------|----------------|--------------|-----------|-------------|-------|
|Fabian           | GoldBarb       |     8,087,365|       1   |    8,087,365|Warcry |
|purplelocust     | ?????          |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |       |
|SnickerSnack     | Cortez         |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |Warcry |
|zerth            | ScroogeMcDuckII|    9172559 gp|       1   |    9172559  |Warcry |
|Corrupted        | Majestic       |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |WW     |
Managed to finish first session

24 runs in 30:10. That's 75 secs/run. (BTW what should we do if the time is exceeded? I use the run counter to record final time and the glide wrapper clock to estimate how much I have left).

Only 9.17M gold. Still not quite there, but will get it until the 15th.
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Wow, those are great runs already! I'm glad there is some interest. I'll have to get working on a GF build but I've still got many other projects in progress...

@zerth: If the 30 minute time is going to be exceeded, I suggest stopping in the middle of the run right at the 30 minute mark. Then you can TP out, total your gold for scoring purposes, and then finish the run with the additional gold not counted to the score. That seems like the fairest method to compare apples to apples and it avoids people being tempted to push the last run. And you have six months, so there is plenty of opportunity to improve and experiment, if needed.

@skiffcz: On the prize issue, that is fine by me. I suggested a trophy for simplicity and not worrying about RWM/HC/SC-type complications. But if you are willing to contribute a prize, great!

So how about this: a trophy for the highest total score, and a prize (if desired) from skiffcz for the highest adjusted score, with that suggested tripling adjustment of non-barb scores.

I don't know how non-barbs will compare. I did think about this, and one idea was a sorc who has a ton of survival and GF gear who lets her merc get the kills. I thought about doing it in 1.07, as Static Field there works all the way down to a sliver even in Hell. But there are a couple of problems, in that in 1.07 there is no Gheed's (and other gear problems as well) and in general it's hard to do quick hell Trav runs there without dying a fair amount. It's hard to do anything (except cows) in 1.07 without dying a fair amount, in my experience, actually. Static doesn't work against LI monsters. Perhaps a 1.10+ enchantress supporting her merc, but still it won't be easy and the immunities are again an issue. It's clear that without the ability to hork, you lose a big opportunity for more gold, of course. I suspect an Enigmadin could go pretty quickly but I don't know how much so.

Let's try to keep the table sorted on best effort:
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|  forum name     | character      |  best effort | # efforts | avg. effort |build  |
|-----------------|----------------|--------------|-----------|-------------|-------|
|zerth            | ScroogeMcDuckII|    9172559 gp|       1   |    9172559  |Warcry |
|Fabian           | GoldBarb       |    8087365 gp|       1   |    8087365  |Warcry |
|purplelocust     | ?????          |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |       |
|SnickerSnack     | Cortez         |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |Warcry |
|Corrupted        | Majestic       |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |WW     |
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Well, I want to have some comparison - how much better those GF barbs actually are. So my goal is to trigger some creativity. Myself, I have two ideas - pindle-eldrich combo, which can level with the GF barb department with chance to find shiny uniques/sets and LK with those piles of blue sellable items with chance to find runes. LK seems better now, I did some non timed tests ... but currently Im too drunk to do any comparable runs. My best act5 trapper score is 1,341,402 so far, which is quiet low, but I did found some nice s/us and socketables and rares ... The idea is - If you can push at least third of the specialized GF build output PLUS chance to get s/us and/or hrs, is it really worth building a goldbarb?

EDIT: Yes, I am too drunk ... 6 deaths in a row just to retrieve the corpse, thats definitely not sober :D
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|  forum name     | character      |  best effort | # efforts | avg. effort |build  |
|-----------------|----------------|--------------|-----------|-------------|-------|
|zerth            | ScroogeMcDuckII|    9172559 gp|       1   |    9172559  |Warcry |
|Fabian           | WWGoldBarb     |    8708749 gp|       1   |    8708749  |WW     |
|Fabian           | GoldBarb       |    8087365 gp|       1   |    8087365  |Warcry |
|purplelocust     | ?????          |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |       |
|SnickerSnack     | Cortez         |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |Warcry |
|Corrupted        | Majestic       |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |WW     |
I finished my WW barb, and took him test driving. This score can surely be improved even with pretty bad luck, as I was still getting used to Trav runs with Whirlwind, I let the merc die twice, bad planning caused me to leave gold on the floor, etc. Equipment is pretty much the same as my Frenzy GF barb, 1.07 Oath and Grief PB and the usual GF stuff.

Hell, players 1. Laying of Hands, not Chance Guards. I'm pretty sure it was 25 runs exactly, so 348k per run.
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|  forum name     | character      |  best effort | # efforts | avg. effort |build  |
|-----------------|----------------|--------------|-----------|-------------|-------|
|zerth            | ScroogeMcDuckII|    9172559 gp|       1   |    9172559  |Warcry |
|Fabian           | WWGoldBarb     |    8708749 gp|       1   |    8708749  |WW     |
|Fabian           | GoldBarb       |    8087365 gp|       1   |    8087365  |Warcry |
|purplelocust     | ?????          |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |       |
|SnickerSnack     | Cortez         |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |Warcry |
|Corrupted        | Majestic       |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |WW     |
|dune             | GoldFinger     |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |Warcry |
i havent played my goldfind barb for a long time. he is clvl75 and would definatly need some help to get through hell.

running NM council at p8 the largest pile of gold he has found is about 65k, although 30k-50k is more normal. the largest pile of gold he ever saw was from norm baal iirc, but that cant be efficient for this tourny :)

as this is going to run for a while i'm in.

will host some goldfind levelling games later..
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|  forum name     | character      |  best effort | # efforts | avg. effort |build  |
|-----------------|----------------|--------------|-----------|-------------|-------|
|zerth            | ScroogeMcDuckII|    9172559 gp|       1   |    9172559  |Warcry |
|Fabian           | WWGoldBarb     |    8708749 gp|       1   |    8708749  |WW     |
|Fabian           | GoldBarb       |    8087365 gp|       1   |    8087365  |Warcry |
|purplelocust     | ?????          |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |       |
|SnickerSnack     | Cortez         |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |Warcry |
|Corrupted        | Majestic       |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |WW     |
|dune             | GoldFinger     |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |Warcry |
|maxicek          | Count_Brass    |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |Frenzy |
AJK's original GF barb was Patriarch MissPiggy, golddigga. He did a lot of trading to improve the GF gear after the Pat thread though. Maybe this tourney will tempt him AJK out of retirement.

I'm entering with my GF Barb Count_Brass, but I think he will need a bit of equipment improvement to be competitive.

Just a suggestion - How about a side competition for the largest single pile of gold?
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My biggest pile was 105k something, if we're doing that competition :)
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Fabian said:
My biggest pile was 105k something, if we're doing that competition :)
How much GF?

I don't think I've ever seen more than 100K
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That's probably understandable as you're using Enigma, so you miss out on Wealth.

I had 2514 I believe, as per my post a bit up. I can't double check because I don't have these characters anymore, it might have been 2314 too (Laying of Hands instead of Chance Guards), but I know I got over 100k with both setups. Think I saw 4 or 5 six figure piles in the two 30 minute blocks I did.
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i have been doing some warm up runs in NM trav. my barb has 2298 gf now and 2647 when merc kills.

i do sometimes get around 300-400k per run and think i can do about 15 runs in 30 mins (havent actually done that yet)

this means i am looking at not much more than about 5 million in 30 mins. way below the 9 million already reported here.

i have tried hell council but have real trouble killing them at all :p

clearly i will have to level some more and re-roll the map until the council isnt split up, some inside and some out.

i dont have teleport on my barb so merc control is an issue.

there is room for some improvement in theory with my gold find equipment but this guy has the best i can offer after years of collecting so it would take great good fortune now to improve it without trading i think.

will give it a proper go when i get him to clvl90.

good luck all.
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I still need to build and equip- those do already look like hard-to-beat scores. I don't know how much of a difference NM/Hell makes. I'm hoping to get away with no teleport amulet and instead use the "pop down the stairs and pop back up" method of keeping the merc nearby.
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About teleport, as someone who has done more than his fair share of Trav runs with and (mostly) without it, Teleport is an insane timesaver. For a tournament like this, where fast runs are of the essence, I think every build would do well to find a Teleport amulet in their stashes. Rolling a map where all council members appear at the same place (inside the building is probably best I think) and suddenly being right in the middle of the pack instead of spending 8+ seconds running around the outer wall, into the building, down the stairs, up the stairs, while separating the pack, and also positioning the merc horribly, well.. Let's just say I really think you all should find Teleport charges if at all possible. It's insane how much farther you need to run without it, and how much longer it takes before you start damaging council members. Both my characters I played in this tourney had a 67% GF, teleport charges, +1 necro skills amulet. Just a magic Amulet of Teleportation I think would be more beneficial than the most awesome non-teleport GF amulets I own, for this tourney.

I'd be interested to hear from others who have tried both methods.
 

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Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Yes, teleport rocks. Even when I relied on amulet charges, teleporting did a lot for the time and the consistency of my run times. Firstly it allows a standard first position (for me it's on the bottom left corner of the temple with all the council spawning nearby). Then, it allows to get out of difficult situations really fast and finish the council 99 percent of the time. Before teleport, I would give up (or die) at least once every 10 runs or would resort in time costly tactics like teleporting to town or going to durance lvl1 (these also cost the unhorked corpses in some cases).
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All right. Looks like fun. Was doing some occasional runs with my GF barb anyway, so might as well join the fray.

Participant is LeapOfFaith. Patted not too long ago (lvl 87 atm). Gear and a write-up can be found here.

Don't have any idea where i will be standing with best efforts, but largest single pile i got so far was 97k and some change iirc (since i haven't started the tourney yet, that one's out of comp. ofc.). I should have a screenie of it somewhere, which i could post if there's any interest. So i shouldn't be doing too bad i'm guessing.

Dunno if anyone is going for NM, but personally i'm pretty interested too see if NM matches up to running in hell. I'm staying in hell, because of better possible drops like runes. And ofcourse trying to break the 100k single pile, which i doubt would be possible in NM.

GL too all runners 👍

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|  forum name     | character      |  best effort | # efforts | avg. effort |build  |
|-----------------|----------------|--------------|-----------|-------------|-------|
|zerth            | ScroogeMcDuckII|    9172559 gp|       1   |    9172559  |Warcry |
|Fabian           | WWGoldBarb     |    8708749 gp|       1   |    8708749  |WW     |
|Fabian           | GoldBarb       |    8087365 gp|       1   |    8087365  |Warcry |
|purplelocust     | ?????          |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |       |
|SnickerSnack     | Cortez         |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |Warcry |
|Corrupted        | Majestic       |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |WW     |
|dune             | GoldFinger     |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |Warcry |
|maxicek          | Count_Brass    |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |Frenzy |
|Cyrax            | LeapOfFaith    |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |Leap   |
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? really want to see what the final record will be. Another two tries get my best effort to a whooping 11185462 gp :smug:.

The other try was a sad 8995381. Updating table:

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|  forum name     | character      |  best effort | # efforts | avg. effort |build  |
|-----------------|----------------|--------------|-----------|-------------|-------|
|zerth            | ScroogeMcDuckII|   11185462 gp|       3   |    9784467  |Warcry |
|Fabian           | WWGoldBarb     |    8708749 gp|       1   |    8708749  |WW     |
|Fabian           | GoldBarb       |    8087365 gp|       1   |    8087365  |Warcry |
|purplelocust     | ?????          |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |       |
|SnickerSnack     | Cortez         |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |Warcry |
|Corrupted        | Majestic       |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |WW     |
|dune             | GoldFinger     |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |Warcry |
|maxicek          | Count_Brass    |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |Frenzy |
|Cyrax            | LeapOfFaith    |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |Leap   |
Edit: The counter shows 23 runs in 29:54. 78 sec runs and 486.3K per run (that's 6235 gp/sec btw)
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Wow, nice going Zerth. Are you running in NM or with full battlegear or something? I just did my first 3 tries and highest number of runs i got was 8.

First try i really got screwed over. Got Ismael PI 3 times. So that took a lot of extra time. Final result 4.389.019 in 7 runs.
Second try felt a lot better, but judging by result it wasn't: 4.437.532 (7.5 runs).
After about 3/4 of the 3rd try i changed my tactics a bit. Started using the amp charges on my weaponswitch. The repairing takes some gold away, but runs are a lot faster. Final result there was 5.733.965, done in 8 runs.

All in all i'm at the bottom of the table right now, but i see lots of room for improvement. Firstly using the amp charges the full 30 mins. Secondly i may try a teleport amu (losing 80% gf though). And i may give NM a try. Since my merc is doing all the killing i may take a better advantage of all the GF i have if merc kills faster.


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|  forum name     | character      |  best effort | # efforts | avg. effort |build  |
|-----------------|----------------|--------------|-----------|-------------|-------|
|zerth            | ScroogeMcDuckII|   11185462 gp|       3   |    9784467  |Warcry |
|Fabian           | WWGoldBarb     |    8708749 gp|       1   |    8708749  |WW     |
|Fabian           | GoldBarb       |    8087365 gp|       1   |    8087365  |Warcry |
|Cyrax            | LeapOfFaith    |    5733965 gp|       3   |    4853505  |Leap   |
|purplelocust     | ?????          |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |       |
|SnickerSnack     | Cortez         |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |Warcry |
|Corrupted        | Majestic       |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |WW     |
|dune             | GoldFinger     |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |Warcry |
|maxicek          | Count_Brass    |          0 gp|       0   |          0  |Frenzy |
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Cyrax said:
Wow, nice going Zerth. Are you running in NM or with full battlegear or something?
I run Hell Travincal. The setup is here.

Teleport charges are must for fast and consistent run times, 80gf is a good trade-off.
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maxicek said:
AJK's original GF barb was Patriarch MissPiggy, golddigga. He did a lot of trading to improve the GF gear after the Pat thread though. Maybe this tourney will tempt him AJK out of retirement
Curse you, SPF! *shakes fist* How am I supposed to enjoy my retirement when spotting a tournament like this while browsing the SPF to see what's up?

Of course I had to run the council a few times to see how my frenzy-based horker compared to the rest of the contestants. Not too bad, but not too good as well. The best I've come up with is a session of 7.5M$, on /P3. I strongly suspect that a lack of teleport, as evidenced in previous posts, has something to do with this.

I also believe now that a singer barb has a much higher M$/hr potential than I originally thought it would have. Very interesting, indeed. I'll probably roll my own singer in order to compare it with my own frenzier using similar charms/equipment.

But first, I'll run some more /P3 council sessions, because the variance in average gold per run is huge. This means that there's probably around 1M$ headroom per session by chance alone, so more samples are needed.

I like that this is a long-term tourney which will hopefully yield more interesting observations towards designing an optimal gold horker. Maybe it'll even make me reconsider the Reaper's Toll as the only viable merc weapon on council runs (not very likely though).

I'll post more detailed stats and gear of my frenzy build later, because I haven't installed DII on this laptop (yet).
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| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  5.733.965 |    3 |   4.853.505 |Leap    |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
|purplelocust | ?????          |          0 |    0 |           0 |        |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |          0 |    0 |           0 |WW      |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |
Ok, I reformated (narrowed) the table a bit and add my two nonbarb runners, Tixi the pindle-eldrich combo killer (and selling stuff) and hfa, my lvl 65 retired hellforge runner, with only chilling armor and 105 fcr teleport as her weapons :D running high psettings LK (and selling stuff).

TODO:
Learn what to pick up and what not to pick up (with both of them :unimpressed:)
Make more inventory space (currently 4x4, thats slowing me down greatly)
Make Imba lightsorc for the elpin combo
Find out the best psettings
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| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |    
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  5.733.965 |    3 |   4.853.505 |Leap    |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
|purplelocust | ?????          |          0 |    0 |           0 |        |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |          0 |    0 |           0 |WW      |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |
I've added myself to the table as well.

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Name: [highlight]CashCow[/highlight], class: barb, level: 90
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[U]Gear:[/U]

Crown of Thieves [Lem]    --> 150% GF
Amulet with teleport    -->   0% GF
Grief + crescent moon      --> not used on hork
2x ali baba [4xLem]    --> 750% GF
Wealth            --> 300% GF
Laying of Hands        -->   0% GF
Trang's belt        -->   0% GF
Dwarf star        --> 100% GF
rare MLeech + GF ring    -->  37% GF
rare FRW+res+GF boots    -->  79% GF
Charms + Gheed's    --> 595% GF

Total GF on hork    --> [b]2011%[/b] GF
------------------------------------

[U]Skills:[/U]

Frenzy         20
Double swing     11
Sword mastery    20
incr. speed     1
Nat. resist     4
Battle orders    20
Find item    16 (50% chance after +skills and Battle command)
Prereqs.    the rest
Biggest oops: wanting to try an Oath BB, but forgetting to add enough points to strength. Still missing 15 pts right now.
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@AJK: How are your resists with the frenzy build? Also note that a singer gf barb (if you decide to make one) is pretty much dependent on the merc to do the killing. I am trying really hard to get War Cry to about 1K damage without sacrificing much gf (needs reeeeeally good stuff), but even then the merc will do 80+ % of the damage. The barb tries to make sure that everything stands still with 0 defense, but that's about it - the rest is merc DPS.
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[URL='https://www.diabloii.net/forums/goto/post?id=6965407']zerth[/URL] said:
@AJK: How are your resists with the frenzy build?
My resists after battle command: 75/59/56/-1
The light. res is a bit low, but I died only once in >100 runs, and that wasn't due to lightning, but due to fanaticism + carelessness.

When I'm going to try a singer, I'll make sure to pimp my merc. I'm not entirely sure about giving him a Fortitude suit, because in my experience, it tends to shatter 2 corpses per run. But on the other hand, if my merc has to take care of most of the kills, the extra damage will outweigh the corpse losses. I'll have to experiment with that.
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AJK said:
I'm not entirely sure about giving him a Fortitude suit, because in my experience, it tends to shatter 2 corpses per run. But on the other hand, if my merc has to take care of most of the kills, the extra damage will outweigh the corpse losses. I'll have to experiment with that.
Nah, monsters stunned => merc doesn't get hit => chilling armor does not trigger => corpses don't shatter

I don't lose more than a corpse every 3 runs or so - probably even less than that.

PS: As far as I can tell, only physical damage hits trigger the chilling armor. Hydras don't.
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| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |    
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  5.733.965 |    3 |   4.853.505 |Leap    |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
|purplelocust | ?????          |          0 |    0 |           0 |        |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |          0 |    0 |           0 |WW      |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |          0 |    0 |           0 |WW      |

You've made me curious.

Who knows when I'll get around to getting Igor set back up for GF and actually take the time for the runs, but if I sign up then I'm obligating myself to at least try - and since I recently emptied most of my ATMA bank on gambling...
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| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  5,959,551 |    2 |   5,781,968 |Warcry  |    
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  5.733.965 |    3 |   4.853.505 |Leap    |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
|purplelocust | ?????          |          0 |    0 |           0 |        |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |          0 |    0 |           0 |WW      |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |          0 |    0 |           0 |WW      |
2 runs completed. the first was the best. i managed 17 p8 NM trav runs both times. on the second attempt i had a run with only 1 pile of gold :p

i took the echoing sword off switch and replaced them with naj's puzzler.

still need to level him a bit but is slow going now. might give my merc a meaner weapon and forgo the insight thresher although i will miss the aura and he already kills pretty fast in NM.

ill be happy now to break the 6mill mark.
Great idea locust.

Too bad it showed me how my GF'er sucks and how I need to make a new one.
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i decided to give goldfinger a run at hell council. i dont have a great map yet but i was able to kill them at players 3, albeit at a slower pace than in NM p8.

however on the second run i had 6 piles of gold over 100k and a new record pile of 115,826.

when i have had some sleep and have less alcohol in my blood ill try a 30 min run in hell.

http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=loadsagoldij2.jpg
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Wow, those are some big piles and congrats on the new high score for a single pile!
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| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  5,959,551 |    2 |   5,781,968 |Warcry  |    
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  5.733.965 |    3 |   4.853.505 |Leap    |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  5.264.249 |    2 |   4.211.209 |WW      |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
|purplelocust | ?????          |          0 |    0 |           0 |        |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |          0 |    0 |           0 |WW      |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |

I decided to try to get Igor's GF setup figured out before the Pindlethon so I can spend the ~50 stat points and 2 skillpoints he still has unused. By the looks of the table, it was a pretty generic first attempt, with plenty of room for improvement.

Edit: my runs were done in Hell, btw. /players1, Travincial council.


Edit2: 2nd run. I was curious if running in NM would make a positive difference, so I did it in NM this time (mixed settings, Trav. Council). Definite failure, but I got a Tal's amulet out of the bargain.



Run Tracker:
#1: 5.264.249 (gold found)
#2: 3.158.169
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| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  6,338,899 |    3 |   5,967,611 |Warcry  |    
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  5.733.965 |    3 |   4.853.505 |Leap    |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  5.264.249 |    2 |   4.211.209 |WW      |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
|purplelocust | ?????          |          0 |    0 |           0 |        |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |          0 |    0 |           0 |WW      |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |
another 30 mins completed. slightly improved the haul but my merc died 3 times and i had to leave a PI council member 3 times as well. so room for more improvement. will level goldfinger to 90 before attempting more runs i think but that will be a tedious job... looks at the baal runners again :)

am tempted to put the .6666666666666666 recurring into the average column now :D
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Well, might as well join this once I finish my pindlethon runs.

I do have a lvl 74 barb who has 8 unspent skill points and is at the start of act 2. He doesn't have any points in find item (uses dual Heart Carvers on switch) but that might change. I don't know how much good GF equipment I have but I'll give it a whirl anyway, it sounds really fun!
Lovely idea purplelocust! 👍


Hi AJK!!! I hepled levelling that barb on MP,good old times! :cloud9:
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OMG...
How you get so much gold???
I manage to get 2,000,000 gold from level 1 to level 76 with my fury werewolf!!!
And im playing for days!
 

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Pugmh said:
OMG...
How you get so much gold???
I manage to get 2,000,000 gold from level 1 to level 76 with my fury werewolf!!!
And im playing for days!
well, these are specialist chrs. read the rest of this thread. you will see, in the first post by purplelocust, a list of links, read through some of those as well.

a normal questing chr wont see more than a few million right through the game.
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I've yet to re-equip my barb and give it a spin but I think I might soon. He's clvl 92 so I don't have to mule the gold off to another char to have 100% chance at having a high-enough ilvl for +2 charskill to spawn when gambling circlets.
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| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  6,338,899 |    3 |   5,967,611 |Warcry  |   
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  5.733.965 |    4 |   4.835.626 |Leap    |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  5.264.249 |    2 |   4.211.209 |WW      |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
|purplelocust | ?????          |          0 |    0 |           0 |        |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |          0 |    0 |           0 |WW      |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |
Took my barb out for another spin after upping my merc weapon (hone sundan). Expected some improvement. But that didn't happen. With only 4.781.988 it's even below average.
Still two highlights:
#1 I completed more runs then before so with some luck it should result in more cash
#2 And more importantly i horked a gul rune. Didn't take the time for a screenie to get a good result, but as mentioned above that didn't happen. But somehow i didn't care too much about that :jig:

I'll try improving my score later and probably give the tele amu a chance because the last try i did have some trouble positioning my merc.
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Wow, a Gul! Well done! There definitely is some significant random variation with the gold totals- hopefully adding up over 30 minutes will tend to balance some of that out.
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| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  6,338,899 |    3 |   5,967,611 |Warcry  |   
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  5.733.965 |    4 |   4.835.626 |Leap    |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  5.264.249 |    2 |   4.211.209 |WW      |
|LHTB         | Fasces           |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
|purplelocust | ?????          |          0 |    0 |           0 |        |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |          0 |    0 |           0 |WW      |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |
Tried my frenzybarb out, no runs above 500k sadly. Had one death to FELECE Geleb, and one aborted run due to conviction (the might/fanat set posed no problems at all)

I put myself in the table according to "best run", not "average run"
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| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  6,338,899 |    3 |   5,967,611 |Warcry  |   
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  5.733.965 |    4 |   4.835.626 |Leap    |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  5.264.249 |    2 |   4.211.209 |WW      |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
|purplelocust | ?????          |          0 |    0 |           0 |        |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |
First try, one death which I suppose cost me a run.

Edit: 8.272.207 second try, no deaths but worse outcome despite I felt I was playing better.

Not doing too bad for an Oath build though, I didn't even use Fortitude this time around as I think they die fast enough on p3. GF-wise I could get an additional 190 from making lem crystal swords and putting a lem in my Crown of Thieves, but I'm lazy :)
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| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  6,338,899 |    3 |   5,967,611 |Warcry  |   
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  5.743.387 |    4 |   4.923.055 |WW      |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  5.733.965 |    4 |   4.835.626 |Leap    |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
|purplelocust | ?????          |          0 |    0 |           0 |        |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |
I felt like killing some council, so I gave this another run. Much safer at level93, and having Death (instead of Oath) definitely made a difference in power. I probably added more leech since my last runs too, but can't remember my pre-Pindlethon setup. I think I'll make one more run at this, since I forgot about the +Dex on Crown of Theives and lower requirements on Death, and therefore had a +Str/+Dex ring instead of a Dwarfstar. The merc died a couple of times too (Conviction aura), which slowed me down and cost me some dough. My horking was probably slightly subpar too, so I'm hoping with a little luck I can crest 6M.

After the next run though, I'll probably retire from this tournament (with this character, at least; though I might consider another run with an upcoming build I have). But at level93 with Igor, when my stash gets full I'm going to gamble it since it doesn't really make sense for me to mule it anymore. It's simply not time efficient to mule gold at this point, and gambling mid-run doesn't make sense within the context of this tournament.

Edit: Only noteworthy find this time was a 3/3 Poison Facet.


Run Tracker:
#1: 5.264.249 (gold found)
#2: 3.158.169 (Nightmare = Fail)
#3: 5.526.418
#4: 5.743.387


Edit2: Finished the 4th (and last) run. Would've made it to 6M if I hadn't died once, aborted once, and had two merc resurrections. Oh well, my horking was much better this time, so I guess that makes up for it somewhat.

No good drops this time, but I've got time some $$$ to gamble now.
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I will enter the tourney with a WW barb (grief/oath), as soon as he gains some levels in the pits. For the time being some test running has shown promising results (95% of runs are more than 400K and some on the 600+ range), but I really do not think he can top the warcry build (at least with the stuff I have available).

disadvantages:

a) Inherently less GF than the warcry build when killing
b) Impossible situations (mostly conviction). Unless of course at higher levels and with a ebeastz / egriefz combo like the one Jaedhann has these are possible as well. Stacking resists seems a possibility as well if you can get the extra AR from beast and lose some ar/gf charms.
c) Less run control. With Warcry you can check the mods of the superuniques and act accordingly. With WW, FE/LE Geleb is more of a danger.

advantages:

a) It is possible to level him swapping equipment on lvl85 /p8 areas, so he can get to 90+ before concentrating on the council
b) Can run at /p3
c) Horks at max GF (has wealth on and even has more gf from charms than SMDII), which at least gives a shot to the largest pile bragging rights

[OT]Shameless plug: SMDII has a youtube video.[/OT]
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Hi all!

I think this is great tourney!

Although I would like to see a category in which your not allowed to sell items in. In other words your only allowed to pick up piles of gold for 30 min.

Anyone else in for that?
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Although I would like to see a category in which your not allowed to sell items in. In other words your only allowed to pick up piles of gold for 30 min.
Why make a special category for a rule that allows you to gather more gold? I say join the tourney as is ;)

Do not tell anyone, but selling items is actually inefficient.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

zerth said:
Why make a special category for a rule that allows you to gather more gold? I say join the tourney as is ;)

Do not tell anyone, but selling items is actually inefficient.
Haha

I have a kick-sin level 49 I raid the concil at Normal with... gets me piles of 5000 - 11000 gold (not crazy 70 k piles you get, saw your vid on youtube)

Great going! I didnt think they droped more gold in hell, but I didnt do so much research.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

zerth said:
Do not tell anyone, but selling items is actually inefficient.
Hey! Im right below 2Mil mark exclusively by selling items! 👋
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Do you guys need Greed Charms?

I raid LK 1000 runs / week (I´m farming skillers so I find alot of greed charms)

Just let med know!
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

skiffcz said:
Hey! Im right below 2Mil mark exclusively by selling items! 👋
How many inventory spots do you keep open? Leaving a 2x3 space open, I get about 520 GF, which is about 23% of my total GF. Assuming an average 10M haul, that is 2.3M gold.

Of course you might use less inventory space for item picking and therefore lose less GF. In any case, I bet lost %GF and lost time to sort loot, pickup, id and sell offsets the gold gain from selling items. Factor in useful 2nd mods of GF charms (mana, resists, ar) and you can see what I mean.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

zerth: I dont use GoldFind :p Any. Those 1.8 mil is from LK chest popping. But I dont run for runes, I have 6x4 open space inventory and pick up staves, wands, leet armor. It drops really much. Heavy townportaling -> cain -> ormus ->tk portal. I can bring it to 2.5 and more I think. Also, those 1.5 is from pindle and eldrich running lightning trapper -> Anya selling.

Really this is just an experiment - find as much possible ways how to collect money other than building completely new char for it. I mean - everyone has LK/countess/pindle/WSK runner, but few of us dedicated gold barbs. We all need money though :)
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  6,411,882 |    5 |   6,096,427 |Warcry  |   
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  5.743.387 |    4 |   4.923.055 |WW      |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  5.733.965 |    4 |   4.835.626 |Leap    |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
|purplelocust | ?????          |          0 |    0 |           0 |        |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |

i have a good map now, toorc is always on the outside area with the rest inside. i can tele into the corner behind the pillar and remain fairly safe. then tele out to get toorc. only pi is a problem, although i havent had a conviction (shudders) aura hit me yet.

i have broken through 6 mill average now but i'm clearly not going to win this. ill be happy if i get to 7 mill now.

this is a nice drop, and justifies the few seconds it takes to collect gc's ;)

Mentalist's Grand Charm of Sustenance
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 53
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 85
Fingerprint: 0x6294976b
+32 to Life
+1 to Shadow Discipline Skills (Assassin Only)

attempt 4, 10 runs completed 6,411,882 gold. 2 pi bosses affected gold drops.

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attempt 5, 11 runs completed 6,167,421 gold.

there was a run where no gold at all dropped. and another where only 2 piles dropped :(

dune
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Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  6,411,882 |    5 |   6,096,427 |Warcry  |   
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  5.743.387 |    4 |   4.923.055 |WW      |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  5.733.965 |    4 |   4.835.626 |Leap    |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
|purplelocust | ?????          |          0 |    0 |           0 |        |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |

Just finished first attempt with the melee build. Goldmine is lvl 89 atm and managed to finish the runs with 0 deaths (his merc died once though). First, a few words on the build:

Maxed WW, Sword Mastery, BO, enough Find Item to reach 50% chance after BC, 10 or so points in Natural Resists, 1pt Berserk, prereqs and a couple skill points saved.

I went 0 FRW (including no skill points in Increased Speed/Stamina), which costs time especially when going from Travi WP to the temple (I always wp to act4 at the end of each run so I do not lose time walking through Kurast), BUT really helps WWing; especially when frozen the damage is awesome.

Weapons are Grief PB and Oath eth Cryptic Sword. Total GF is 1473 (kill) and 2373 (hork).

Managed 18 runs (100 seconds / run) which is on the slow side, but at least I run on /p3. I also managed to hork a 100700 pile. One run was a sad 76K (only one pile).

Genrally, I am happy :nod:
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Nicely done! I'm going to have to get doing on these projects- I'm not seeing an obvious best build emerging so I think I'll end up trying a few approaches. Interesting idea on the no Increased Speed/ no FRW method to improve the whirls- I would never have thought of that!
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Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  6,411,882 |    5 |   6,096,427 |Warcry  |   
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  5.743.387 |    4 |   4.923.055 |WW      |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  5.733.965 |    4 |   4.835.626 |Leap    |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
OK, I've finally got an entry in my own tourney- it only took me a couple of months!

Orfebre is a Leap barb, with the plan being to wear lots of GF gear, stun the council with Leap, and then Hork. Right now he's only level 71 and still in NM, so I took him for a 30 minute run on NM Trav.

This is a quick effort modelled on MalVeaux's guide: http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=694333. One concern for that build is on the realms, where rapid restarting of games is a problem. So it's a slower safer plan with more GF. Cyrax did a much better job with the same approach!

This was a weak first start and it's kind of garbled at this point. I'm still sorting out gear and learning how Leap can be used to push the council around. Mainly, I wanted to do a run to get on the board. I actually died early in the run (resists are low 55/-1/-8/-8, that will need some sorting out) and since I didn't have enough gold at that point to resurrect the merc without first getting back to my corpse, which was a big bumble. The runs were a little under about 3 minutes each, I think.

Gear: Crown of Thieves, dual Ali Babas, Chance Guard, Gold Wrap, dual Dwarf Stars, Infernostride for GF. Merc has Wealth, Crown of Thieves and an ethereal Meat Scraper. I'm actually currently wearing Griswold's armor with a +dex set up, as I wanted to try throwing Gimmershreds to see how easy it is to switch between throwing and leaping. It's not as easy as I'd hoped, as the stun time for Leap is quite short.

Leap is currently at 12 and I may bump it up somewhat, as there are still Council Members casting Hydras if they are out of the stun range. The merc was very sturdy and didn't even need potions, unlike Orfebre. That may be because I still have 150 stat points saved trying to figure out what will work well!

The eventual idea is to level him more, and equip Lacerator and do some quick throws to trigger Amp to help the merc. Others have mentioned how much Amp speeds things up and used the charges on Gavel of Pain, for example. I figure I can eventually try Lacerator, since the CtC Amp is quite high (33%) but there will be the fleeing to worry about. The CtC Amp on Lacerator is level 3, weaker than that of the level 8 ones on the Gavel of Pain, so the duration may be too short for effective use of Lacerator.

I was surprised at a couple of things: the gold piles ranged in size quite a lot, and there were runs where there were very few piles as well. Perhaps there are "dead tiles" where if a monster dies, nothing drops, around inside the council chamber. The biggest pile I saw was 32k and I'm sure once Orfebre makes his own Wealth that will go up more. Stepping into the Durrance and back was good for bringing the merc under control.
I'm debating if I would like to get Cannot Be Frozen possibly, and I can see how teleport charges on an amulet will be very useful in due course.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Hi Money makers!

I have Plenty of Greed Charms (+38%, 39%, 40%) which I stacked up in LK if someone need for this tourney! (Of course I´ll give them away for free)

Just let med know!

/m
 
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Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  6,411,882 |    5 |   6,096,427 |Warcry  |   
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  5.797.374 |    6 |   4.982.384 |Leap    |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  5.743.387 |    4 |   4.923.055 |WW      |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
Hey Purple, good to see a fellow 'hopper' between all those other weirdo's 👍

Almost forgot i was in this tourney. But since i needed a small break from running Diablo this got my attention.

Wanted to try how runs would go with a tele-amu which i still hadn't used. On the first try i quickly realised how much it helped positioning the merc. Too bad it didn't show in the amount of gold collected: 4.754.425. That was just below average. Also partially caused by 2 runs where little gold dropped and being a bit rusty.
Luckily the second try was better. Improved my best with almost the smallest margin possible. Still happy about it though because it is an improvement and it was even enough to pass SirP both in best run and in run average.

Maybe i'll give it another shot later on. Preferably on my other pc because this one is really slow which means i lose about a minute when transferring gold off my barb. So let's say that can be done in about 10-20s that would mean a lot more time to collect gold.

Also thinking about putting on a couple of more GF-grand charms. I originally got rid of a few so i could pick up stuff to sell. But now i'm thinking i'm better of with bigger piles of cash and not (or at least less) selling items. So as you can see i'm still trying to figure out the best setup.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  6,411,882 |    5 |   6,096,427 |Warcry  |   
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  5.743.387 |    4 |   4.923.055 |WW      |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
Tried some more. This time with one more GF-gc. Apparently i threw the rest away. Or at least i can't find them atm. Hopefully i can find one or two more. Also played on my faster comp which resulted in faster muling gold off. And the biggest improvement: changed dual 'lemlem' ali's for dual 6x lem crystal swords. In terms of investing runes it's a very bad investment. But fun does count for something.

First try netted me 6.275.800. Which wasn't bad, though i thought i could have ended up higher. Had 2 runs with little gold dropping. But i did lvl in the proces. And so did my merc and since he's doing the killing thats very nice (we're both ** now).

After that gave it another try with the full 30 mins at lvl **. Which gave me a little improvement (could be luck though). This time the timer stopped on 6.483.353. Still i felt like i could have gotten more out of it. But that may happen another day.

For now i passed Dune with my best run. Not sure if i'll be able to catch AJK since it's a pretty big gap.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

running hell council is far too stressful for goldfinger. if any member of the council spawns fe/le, convicted, pi, extra fast, extra strong, ce/le, cursed or even slightly bad tempered then the run gets abandoned or one of us dies.

goldfinger was built for running NM council and there he swims well.

i decided to try and optimise his goldfind by filling his stash completely with gf charms, losing the cube, tp tome and resistance charms (that he carries for hell) and running NM at different players settings to see if i could get past 7 million in 30 mins. i improved his boots recently too and he has an amulet that i missed when i first searched my jewellery stash.

his total goldfind is now 2441% for goldfinger and 449% for leharas.

i regularly see piles of gold over 50k in NM with this setup at players 1.
over 60k was far more frequent at players 3 than players 1, however 60k piles almost vanished again at players 5, to make a slight return again at players 7. i cant explain this and it might have been due to random chance alone.

i completed around 600 runs in total and the largest pile of gold in noticed was 62,886

the results for 30 minute sets are as follows...

Code:
players setting         runs in 30 mins         total gold
---------------------------------------------------
            1                  26               7,047,992
            1                  28               7,288,870
            1                  28               7,346,433
            1                  29               7,072,398
            1                  29               7,231,674
            1                  26               7,267,900

average for players 1          27.6             7,209,211
---------------------------------------------------        
            3                  22               8,117,938
            3                  26               8,862,493
            3                  25               7,557,883
            3                  23               8,232,367
            3                  24               7,164,200
            3                  24               8,040,712

average for players 3          24               7,995,932
---------------------------------------------------
            5                  21               6,504,106    
            5                  22               6,653,480                  
            5                  21               6,780,526
            5                  23               8,295,235
            5                  22               6,939,293
            5                  22               7,565,412

average for players 5          21.8             7,123,008
---------------------------------------------------
            7                  21               7,829,886 
            7                  18               6,429,630
            7                  19               5,748,264
            7                  18               6,063,040
            7                  19               7,195,649
            7                  19               6,726,883

average for players 7          19               6,665,558
---------------------------------------------------
i then tried replacing leharas's insight thresher with a passion mancatcher.
his average damage with insight is 1525 and with the passion it's 1162.

i also improved goldfingers' boots again from the meph runs for an extra 6% gf, and added a 40% gf gc in place of a serpent's gc of greed with 34% for 6% more again.

i ran at players 3 because it seems that is the optimum.

goldfind 2453% for goldfinger and 526% for leharas.

i had planned to do a lot more but after just 2 sets it was obvious that this had failed, and i'd had enough by then as well :p. i had serious mana issues and was unable to maintain my war cry and the lower damage for leharas meant considerably slower kill speed. although i did see some slightly larger piles of gold ( the record pile came from here) we couldnt match the number of runs so the total gold was lower.


the results for 30 minute sets are as follows...

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players setting        runs completed        total gold
          3                  23                7,457,741
          3                  21                7,108,877
                   
average for players 3        22                7,283,309
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there is very little wriggle room for improving goldfingers goldfind % now. he could level some more, but that is hard going now he is clvl90, and a slightly better gheeds is possible. i think he could get 1% more on a belt and 2% more on an ammy. i could replace his ali baba's with 6 lem'd swords but i dont have 12 lems.
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so, after all, i think thats me done with this tourny. it was fun and i'd like thank purplelocust for hosting it. it is obvious i cannot win without building a new chr from scratch and i'd rather concentrate on meph runs and all the chrs i have unfinished now.

i smashed my 7 million in 30 mins target though and added about 200 million to my gold stash :D

one final note, as i mentioned i filled my stash completely with charms so i was unable to collect anything at all except gold.

it will be many years before i finish mourning all those flawless gems and unidentified charms, not even to mention the 6 shael runes, 4 amn, 4 sol, 1 lum, 2 dol and numerous lower left on the floor... be brave dune, be brave.
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Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |    not sure |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  5.743.387 |    4 |   4.923.055 |WW      |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
most of these runs were done in NM. see my post above for details.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

@Dune : Nice to see you coming back to us. you once said "Piles of Money tourney taking lots of time" I can understand why now.

Awesome research!

If I can make 5 million in NM /players 1 it´s more than enought for me. I currently farm Hellforge Plates in LK and make about a million in 15 mins.

/mega
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Originally, I'd put a target date of June 15th to spur procrastinators (like me) to get going. I'll keep track of who had the best effort as of then (good luck beating Zerth!) but I'll think about this from there on as an ongoing endeavor. And I do hope to get a chance to give it a proper go!
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Arent you afraid of FE bug?
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

This is a long-overdue congratulations to the winner, Zerth, whose warcry barb (and merc!) did a great job on the Hell council runs.

I still mean to return to more serious GFing and see this as now as an ongoing project of optimizing the income stream (amount of gold per unit time.) Hopefully I'll get a chance to make some more improvements!
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Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       |  9.104.231 |    1 |   9.104.231 |WW
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |    not sure |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  5.743.387 |    4 |   4.923.055 |WW      |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
Time for an update of the table!

I'm now happy enough with my newly built WW Goldfinder that I figured I'd take him out for a spin for this tourney and see what happened. I'm reasonably happy to beat all my old GF barbs I had before the restart, although a lot of that is variance of course. I think my old Whirlwinder was probably better than my current one is.

There's LOTS of room for improvement still, and I'm probably going to rebuild WWGoldie once I finalize his equipment. For instance, the amulet I'm using now only has Strength and Teleport charges as relevant mods, which is sort of pathetic. More importantly, I'm only using 1 Dwarf Star (and 1 dual leech ring), when I can get a second one on there the difference should be huge.

During the 30 minutes, the merc died twice, which is a problem. A few more levels might help with that, I'm currently lvl 89. Also need to figure out the best equipment for the merc, currently using Shaeled Reaper's Toll, Fortitude and Fervor'd Guillaume's Face. A few too many corpses shatter though, gotta figure something out.

Goldfind is 700 from equipment, 529 from charms and 900 from switch, so total of 2129 when horking. Never seen 6 figure piles with him yet, so definitely need to get that GF% up.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Fabian said:
During the 30 minutes, the merc died twice, which is a problem. A few more levels might help with that, I'm currently lvl 89. Also need to figure out the best equipment for the merc, currently using Shaeled Reaper's Toll, Fortitude and Fervor'd Guillaume's Face. A few too many corpses shatter though, gotta figure something out.
Yeah, the merc... what a pain in the backside trying to keep him alive sometimes. The extra levels won't hurt, but mine still dies occasionally at level94 (about 25-50% of the time conviction spawns), so extra levels aren't a cure-all.

If I had to make one suggestion for you, it would be to get him some CBF if you can - that'll help his leech quite a bit by keeping his attack fast against everything except a holy freeze aura. I eventually settled on gearing mine with Reapers + Guardian Angel + Kira's for survivability; he doesn't have any GF gear at all.

I'd be interested to see what others are using for their merc too.


And an informal update since I've done several hundred runs since I participated in this tournament... I stopped muling gold off of Igor, so the context of this tournament no longer makes sense for me - when I'm full, I gamble it immediately.

Right now it takes me 35-40 minutes to farm and gamble ~7 million. If I muled the gold and stuck purely to farming for 30 minutes, I think it would put me in the 7-8M range. With good luck consistently for 30 minutes, I think ~9 million would be possible for me now.

Edit: actually, I'm curious, so I'm going to give it one more go.


*****
Edit2: Woot, I jumped back over Cyrax. 😁

Overall I'd say it was an average 30 minutes for me, the merc didn't die and luck could've been better, but it could've been worse too. So my previous estimate might've been a little optimistic, and ~8M is probably my top-end results.

Telling of Beads, Andy's Visage, and Bonehew were my most noteworthy finds (unless I include the double-Isenhart's BP drop I had in one run :p).

Run Tracker:
#1: 5.264.249 (gold found)
#2: 3.158.169 (Nightmare = Fail)
#3: 5.526.418
#4: 5.743.387
#5: 7.012.362


Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       |  9.104.231 |    1 |   9.104.231 |WW
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |    not sure |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.012.362 |    5 |   5.340.916 |WW      |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 12.213.570 | many |   not sure  |WW      |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       |  9.104.231 |    1 |   9.104.231 |WW      |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |    not sure |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.012.362 |    5 |   5.340.916 |WW      |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
Gave it a few tries to see if I could beat Zerths score. Lvl 90 WW goldfind barb with nigma wins!
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Wow, great results! Those are both very impressive!

@Jaedhann: For the WW Enigmadin, what is the gear? Giving up Wealth for Enigma seems like a good trade, apparently!
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

"purplelocust" said:
@Jaedhann: For the WW Enigmadin, what is the gear?
Weapons: Grief + Beast zerkers
Swich: 2x 6 Lemmed weapons
Helm: CoT with Lem
Armor: Enigma
Boots: Infernostride
Rings: 2x Dwarfs
Gloves: Chancies
Belt:

Glyph Lock
Plated Belt
Defense: 11
Durability: 10 of 24
Required Strength: 60
Required Level: 50
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 86
Fingerprint: 0x58eb6281
+16 to Strength
+2 to Life
+5 to Maximum Stamina
Lightning Resist +30%
66% Extra Gold from Monsters

Ammie:
25: Stone Eye
Amulet
Required Level: 66
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 83
Fingerprint: 0xe9465496
Damage Reduced by 1
All Resistances +8
8% Mana stolen per hit
60% Extra Gold from Monsters

+1 to Amazon Skill Levels

Charms:
Code:
1: Amber Small Charm of Greed
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 32
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 90
Fingerprint: 0x185ce554
Lightning Resist +11%
10% Extra Gold from Monsters

2: Amber Small Charm of Greed
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 32
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 80
Fingerprint: 0x6e22bf65
Lightning Resist +10%
10% Extra Gold from Monsters

4: Sapphire Small Charm of Greed
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 32
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 90
Fingerprint: 0x7a7d1b68
Cold Resist +12%
10% Extra Gold from Monsters

5: Sapphire Small Charm of Greed
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 32
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 80
Fingerprint: 0x91da5b10
Cold Resist +11%
9% Extra Gold from Monsters

6: Viridian Small Charm of Greed
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 15
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 80
Fingerprint: 0x9ea38cb0
Poison Resist +6%
10% Extra Gold from Monsters

9: Ocher Grand Charm of Greed
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 14
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 80
Fingerprint: 0x63f5e5b2
Lightning Resist +19%
40% Extra Gold from Monsters

10: Shimmering Small Charm of Greed
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 25
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 68
Fingerprint: 0xab599f7a
All Resistances +5
9% Extra Gold from Monsters

11: Iron Small Charm of Greed
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 31
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 85
Fingerprint: 0x14414e47
+14 to Attack Rating
10% Extra Gold from Monsters

12: Russet Grand Charm of Greed
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 14
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 86
Fingerprint: 0xb182b23a
Fire Resist +16%
40% Extra Gold from Monsters

13: Fine Grand Charm of Greed
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 16
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 80
Fingerprint: 0x687f6b6c
+24 to Attack Rating
+5 to Maximum Damage
40% Extra Gold from Monsters

14: Fine Small Charm of Greed
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 21
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: **
Fingerprint: 0x6a17633a
+14 to Attack Rating
+3 to Maximum Damage
10% Extra Gold from Monsters

15: Sharp Grand Charm of Greed
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 21
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 80
Fingerprint: 0xda45d3ca
+58 to Attack Rating
+10 to Maximum Damage
38% Extra Gold from Monsters

17: Iron Small Charm of Greed
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 31
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 85
Fingerprint: 0xf0e1417
+18 to Attack Rating
10% Extra Gold from Monsters

18: Steel Grand Charm of Greed
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 35
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 80
Fingerprint: 0x67c04d87
+115 to Attack Rating
40% Extra Gold from Monsters

19: Ruby Grand Charm of Greed
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 22
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 85
Fingerprint: 0x5ad7a563
Fire Resist +30%
36% Extra Gold from Monsters

21: Coral Small Charm of Greed
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 20
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 85
Fingerprint: 0x449b1466
Lightning Resist +8%
10% Extra Gold from Monsters

22: Steel Small Charm of Greed
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 49
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x40042828
+30 to Attack Rating
10% Extra Gold from Monsters

23: Static Small Charm of Greed
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 17
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: **
Fingerprint: 0x24f6fc0d
Adds 1-9 lightning damage
10% Extra Gold from Monsters

24: Iron Grand Charm of Greed
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 23
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 99
Fingerprint: 0x304d8b2
+85 to Attack Rating
40% Extra Gold from Monsters


49: Gheed's Fortune
Grand Charm
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 62
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: **
Fingerprint: 0x8e147e75
157% Extra Gold from Monsters
35% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Reduces All Vendor Prices 14%
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Very nice equipment. I'm hoping to be able to touch that best score of yours once I finalize my equipment and get more practice. Of course, finding an amulet with high GF, mana leech and teleport charges will be easier said than done :)

Nice charms too, the 12/10 CR/GF charm is very stylish.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 12.213.570 | many |   not sure  |WW      |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       |  9.104.231 |    1 |   9.104.231 |WW      |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |    not sure |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.012.362 |    5 |   5.340.916 |WW      |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief|  5.902.609 |    2 |   5.487.753 |WW      |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
Wow, Jae, that's a crazy amount of gold, congrats. I guess that just goes to show that in Goldfinding, as in almost all other item finding, teleport is king.

Been about a week since my last attempt, but since the thread was brought back I figured I'd add myself. Numbers aren't very impressive, but I feel confident I can improve on them. I've only seen two runs over 900k so far - 936,965 and 910,138 - but both of them were at p1 so I feel good that I can break a million for a run. Without teleport I don't see much chance of competing with the top spots, but I think with a little more practice and a couple more levels (just hit **) I can hit 7mil or higher. Finding a Death Cleaver with a better roll and putting an ED/max damage jewel in it or swapping it out altogether for a Death may help some, too.

He's at 1383% GF at kill, 2123 at hork with the gear listed at the bottom of this post. Charms are a little different, but the same general focus.

As for the merc: I, like poops, decided to go with Guardian Angel/Kira's/Reaper's. Corpse shattering is rare enough to me to be worth the help from Decrepify. He still dies every time to Conviction, but then I can't say I'm in a hurry to feed him potions, either. Outside of that, though, the only problems for him are Fana + Might, that I've seen. Before that he had lots of problems with getting frozen and not being able to leech so he'd die left and right.

If the shattered corpses really bug you, you could just give up decrep and give him a 1.07 base Obedience or something. It's not like you have to have the Decrepify, especially with Grief. You'll probably have to use berserk to take down stone skin bosses, though, which I doubt is worth the time.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 12.213.570 | many |   not sure  |WW      |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       |  9.104.231 |    2 |   9.000.060 |WW      |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |    not sure |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.012.362 |    5 |   5.340.916 |WW      |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief|  5.902.609 |    2 |   5.487.753 |WW      |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
Did another run, with a slightly changed setup. I ditched the strength/teleport amulet for a strength/dexterity/mana leech/+2warcries amulet, and ditched the dual leech ring I've been using for a second Dwarf Star, which meant I could squeeze in another 110% GF (10 more because I could replace a +dex SC with a Greed SC). Not having teleport sucked like I expected, but the end result was pretty nice all the same, 8.895.890 gold, putting the 2 run average at almost exactly 9M.

The survivability was less than ideal during this block of runs though; my merc died twice, and I had to abort FOUR runs (three in the last few minutes) due to monster spawns being too tough. What almost always happens when I have to abort is I get mana burned so I can't whirl (and hence not leech), and while the mana potion is doing its work, I get hit again and again so the whirling never continues, and after a second or two the life bulb is down to 2-300 life (from 2900), and I hit escape and quit the run. I wonder if damage taken goes to mana would help more than mana leech in these instances.

I feel very confident that I can drastically improve results with some rebuilding and some better equipment. Sooner or later, I WILL gamble/craft an amulet with both tele charges and other useful mods, which will make the runs more more controllable (teleport helps tremendously with placing the council in the same general area, which is a huge help both with killing speed and control). I'm going to make a second Grief soon to increase his killing speed, and rebuild him to not have so much strength, which will mean more life/AR. A few more levels will also help a lot, not to mention spending the 11 skill points I still have left.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Wow, excellent runs and great analyses. It is clear that teleport really helps a great deal.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for an amulet with teleport charges, GF, mana leech, resists, FCR, skills AND damage to mana for you, Fabian!
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

"Fabian" said:
... I wonder if damage taken goes to mana would help more than mana leech in these instances...
FYI, I have 12% DTM on my Fortitude and it helps a little - it's usually not enough returned mana to keep whirling without drinking a potion, but having that ~10-15 mana returned to my pool after a manaburn hit means that when I drink the blue potion I'm much closer to having enough mana to whirl again. I might get hit once or twice more to reset my waiting-timer, but usually it's quick (and safe and reliable) enough that there's no real problem getting back into whirling with a single blue potion.

Occasionally, when a boss spawns manaburn + extra-damage, the DTM itself is enough to return me enough mana to whirl without a potion. But this is quite rare.

So, if you can get ~25% DTM it might be enough on its own (I'd want ~50% to consider it reliable), but otherwise you'll still need potions often. A little DTM still helps though.


@purplelocust, there would be 4 suffixes on that amulet, so it doesn't spawn. :p
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 12.213.570 | many |   not sure  |WW      |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       |  9.930.825 |    3 |   9.310.315 |WW      |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |    not sure |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.012.362 |    5 |   5.340.916 |WW      |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief|  5.902.609 |    2 |   5.487.753 |WW      |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
Did another run, and finally I can say it went ok! I think a lot has to do with my equipment improving as of late. Since the last run, I crafted this amulet:

Code:
Entropy Noose
Amulet
Required Level: 62
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 92
Fingerprint: 0x7d5eeec1
+12 to Strength
+10 to Life
+8 to Maximum Stamina
4% Life stolen per hit
5% Mana stolen per hit
64% Extra Gold from Monsters
10% Faster Run/Walk
Which meant an extra significant gain in the GF department, which I could definitely feel during these 30 minutes. I even got a good amount of FRW, which I feel is very helpful to us poor non-enigma folk, and I could see a clear difference there too. Anyway, final result was just shy of 10M, 9.930.825, but I know there's still lots of room for improvement.

You see, it started out very well, but towards the end, a few very nasty packs spawned, and my merc died twice (after having survived a Conviction pack in the first 5 minutes, I was so proud!), and even I died twice too, which felt ridiculous. The lost experience didn't bother me much, thankfully, as I'm rebuilding him pretty soon anyway, but I felt like an idiot for messing up such a good set of runs. I think I can definitely cross the 11M mark pretty comfortably with the current equipment and some good luck, and I hope to be able to do even better than that once I rebuild with dual Griefs.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 12.213.570 | many |   not sure  |WW      |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 10.320.740 |    5 |   9.557.192 |WW      |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |    not sure |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.012.362 |    5 |   5.340.916 |WW      |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief|  5.902.609 |    2 |   5.487.753 |WW      |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
Sorry to be the sole bumper of this thread. If it annoys people, I'll stop doing it too often, but I have a personal best to report, after all.

Did another run, no changes to the equipment since last time. I did however put another 3 points in Natural Resistance, and I might be imagining things, but this 30 minute block definitely felt pretty safe compared to what it usually feels like. Actually, I would say I had below average luck this time, however the smoothness of the runs made for a pretty good score anyway. I'm happy to be the first non-teleporter to break the 10M mark too :)

Also making another Grief once I finish one more HF rush set, I will then rebuild him with less strength. I have a lvl 52 mule standing by, so hopefully I'll be back to running pretty soon afterwards. I'm actually hoping dual Griefs will mean I can ditch Laying of Hands for Chance Guards, but I'm not holding my breath on that one. Maybe if I can get a hold of more damage/GF charms..

Edit: Actually did another run now too, 9.534.278. The bad news is it was (slightly) below average, even counting my old attempts with subpar equipment, the good news is that pretty much everything with this set of runs went wrong. Has been added to the average column in the table.
 
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Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 12.213.570 | many |   not sure  |WW      |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 10.320.740 |    5 |   9.557.192 |WW      |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |    not sure |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief|  8.130.547 |    3 |   6.368.684 |WW      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.012.362 |    5 |   5.340.916 |WW      |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
First test since replacing my old computer. I knew it was slow, but the difference did surprise me a bit. Can still increase that amount with better charms and spending less time sorting through piles, but items are just as high on my list as gold is for these runs so I don't see that happening. I'd say these hauls were on the upper end of average, but not great - the largest was ~688,000 or so; smallest ~120,000 - so with good luck and more focus on faster running an increase should be possible.

Definitely need another couple levels, though, since I can tell the new Death Cleaver from sirpoopsalot tends to hit less often than the "Eth"ed one did. Fortunately, when it does connect it hits a lot harder.

The runs do feel a little safer since my resistances went up, at ~40 fire res, FE explosions were sort of worrisome, but now at 62 they aren't much of a problem. I may spend another point in Natural Resistances so I can drop one of my worst LR/GF SC's for an AR or FR one and still be maxed.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 12.213.570 | many |   not sure  |WW      |
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 11.396.220 |    6 |   9.863.697 |WW      |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |    not sure |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief|  8.130.547 |    3 |   6.368.684 |WW      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.012.362 |    5 |   5.340.916 |WW      |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
Did another run, and look who just climbed to second place! :) Huge improvement, very pleased.

A lot of stuff went really well this time. The skill points I placed recently in Natural Resistance and Increased Speed (still 5 unspent at clvl 89) have really paid off. That said, I still died once ~8 minutes in, which cost me lots of potential gold obviously (plus a merc resurrection). I'm super confident I can beat Jaed's score with my current equipment, and I hope to keep improve it further (first another Grief PB; eventually 1.07 eth Beast/Grief BA's).

Anyway, very happy to be in second place, I'm really invested in this "tournament" to be honest :)


Edit: Forgot to mention, that even while I haven't seen any six figure piles yet, today was the first time I maxed out my inventory from one run (890.000). Another time, I was very close, at ~879k. Having good luck while horking is so so important, when I rebuild I might spend another 4 points or so in Find Item to be honest. Those extra percents will add up for sure.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Wow, those are great runs! I'm happy that people keep experimenting and optimizing- that's what this is all about!

@Fabian: it seems likely a non-dying 30 minute effort could be even better!

A few levels or a few more resists I think will lead to slightly less worry and thus more ability to focus on GF and speed.

(I really should try to get a good effort sorted out here...)
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

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| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 12.213.570 | many |   not sure  |WW      |
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 12.052.407 |    9 |   9.909.390 |WW      |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |    not sure |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief|  8.130.547 |    3 |   6.368.684 |WW      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.012.362 |    5 |   5.340.916 |WW      |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
I promise I'll stop updating so often, but I keep shattering my record, so what can I do? :) Did 3 more sets of runs since last time. In the first, I tried killing on p1 (as usual) and horking on p7, to see if the extra gold I made would offset the slower run times. Well, I had way below average luck pretty much the whole time, so I can't really say, but it sure didn't feel like it based on how that half hour went. The second run was pretty bad too, with a death or two if I recall, and a few very poor runs (below 200k). Then, in the third, I was reasonably lucky with the spawns, having to only resurrect the merc once, and never dying myself. It just felt like they went down smoother than normal, on average, which I think was the main reason for the great result. I did have to abondon a run where I was close to dying, losing around 45 seconds, but I'm not complaining.

Results:
1. 8.331.794
2. 9.618.119
3. 12.052.407
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   14 |  10.492.264 |WW      |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 12.213.570 | many |   not sure  |WW      |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief|  8.130.547 |    3 |   6.368.684 |WW      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.012.362 |    5 |   5.340.916 |WW      |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
Now I might finally get some rest from this tournament! :)

Did 3 runs this morning with the normal equipment, nothing special. Results were decent, between 10M and 10.8M. Then, I received a bunch of new charms from a trade with Jaedhann, the significant one being a 123/39 Steel GC of Greed. Then, I decided to try and really max out the score in this tournament, meaning I dropped the cube and replaced with another 49 GF (one GC and one SC), and didn't pick up any items at all. I did two runs like this, barely beating my own record on the first try and completely destroying it on the second. I could tell like 5 minutes in that the result from that last run would be amazing; I think my improved results have as much to do with my playing improving as my equipment improving. I'm getting better at targeting the decrep'd monsters, although it annoys me that my merc's Might aura almost never triggers. Anyway, results:

1. 10.837.998
2. 10.004.347
3. 10.892.809
4. 12.093.615
5. 13.878.412

Edit: Oh, and despite the improved GF in those last two runs, still no 6 figure pile. 996xx has been the biggest, ugh :)
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   14 |  10.492.264 |WW      |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW      |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief|  8.130.547 |    3 |   6.368.684 |WW      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.012.362 |    5 |   5.340.916 |WW      |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
Arghl, why did my shoes brake during these runs!!! Also, I think 15 mil is possible, given some extreme luck.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Wll good luck guys I hope some of you will get to 15 mil ^^
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Awesome, competition :) I was hoping you'd come out to beat me, so I had a reason to keep running.

I think 15M is doable too, definitely. It's tough to time my runs exactly, because the run counter counts it as two runs when I mule off gold, but I think when everything goes smoothly and I don't waste time looking for charms/jewels to pick up, I can probably do 31-32 or so runs. I'll try to keep track of it better in the future, but it's tough when your focus is on other things. With an average of 500k per run, which would most likely be very lucky for me even with the extra GF (haven't got a good feel for what's normal with that amount yet), that's over 15M.

Anyway, enough rambling. More runs tomorrow probably :)
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Wow, great results! Not carrying a cube is pretty serious focus on just the gold but apparently it helps!

I think you will see a six figure pile, give the variation and how close you've come, Fabian!
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

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| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   17 |  10.756.089 |WW      |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW      |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief|  8.130.547 |    3 |   6.368.684 |WW      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.012.362 |    5 |   5.340.916 |WW      |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
No improvement, although I came pretty close, but wanted to update my average anyway.

On the first run, I tried a different strategy where I'd use teleport scrolls in the belt to start in Act IV every run. Well, it sucked. The second run started pretty nicely, but I died on two consecutive runs somewhere around the 20 minute mark, ugh. Third run was pretty good, although I think I had 3 merc resurrections.

1. 10.016.188
2. 12.322.975
3. 13.622.658

Edit: I've also got a few 6 figure piles now, maybe because of the 2% GF improvement on my CoT? :p
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

I am glad that the competition is back up. I've made some improvements on SMDII's gear and I will give it a few more tries. I think I can definitely improve my best score, if not take the lead ;)

I'll be away from home the whole week, but I'll give it a shot on the weekend hopefully.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   19 |  10.935.820 |WW      |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW      |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief|  8.130.547 |    3 |   6.368.684 |WW      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.012.362 |    5 |   5.340.916 |WW      |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
Did two runs this morning. They went alright but not great, I'm realizing more and more how luck based this is. The difference between an extra 90k drop here and there is very significant indeed, and today I had way too many runs where lots of piles dropped but they were all in the 20-40k range instead. At least I'm raising my average very signficantly :)

1. 12.483.081
2. 12.443.981
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   20 |  10.937.334 |WW      |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW      |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief|  8.130.547 |    3 |   6.368.684 |WW      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.012.362 |    5 |   5.340.916 |WW      |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
This character will soon be retired and replaced by an axe wielding WW goldfinder. I did another run, and changed around some stuff. Notably, the merc is wearing a Lem'd CoT, which I think works well. I also tried giving him a Treachery armor, but I think he needs a few more levels before that setup is viable, so he's back to using Guardian Angel for now. Thoughts on what he should wear with Shael'd Reaper's and Lem'd CoT?

I also switched out the 1.07 LoH for a pair of Chance Guards which dropped during a run, to try and see the difference. As it turns out, Chance Guards feels much more effective, and I think I have a great chance of beating my record with a few more tries. The damage difference is HUGE, but so is the gold pile size difference. Sometimes, when Decrep triggers and things go well, the council goes down almost as fast even without the 350% ED, but the slow runs are way slower without LoH. However, 6 figure piles are pretty common now, and I broke my record for most gold during a single run (1.040.xxx).

I only got 10.966.097 gold this time, but it went pretty horribly overall, with a death, an aborted run and 3 or 4 more merc deaths. Will definitely level the new barb higher than 89, probably to 91 to begin with, and I think it'll help a great deal.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   20 |  10.937.334 |WW      |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW      |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief|  8.130.547 |    3 |   6.368.684 |WW      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.499.106 |    6 |   5.700.615 |WW      |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
Good day for a bump of this thread, Fabian.

I decided to revisit Igor now that he's level 95. Now that I don't particularly care about keeping him alive, I ditched some survivability (less-than-max resists now) and added more GF. 122% more GF, to be precise.

The result was quite a bit more than I expected, with a 30-minute-best increase of about 500k. That doesn't seem like much, but if I had to do a one-word summary of my luck during these last 30 minutes, it would require me to bypass the word filter. :p I counted 6-8 runs that were clearly below average, and a few more that it might be generous to describe as average, and only 2 runs that were clearly above average. I also died once, which definitely didn't help (and despite my decrease in safety for this test, I really doubt I'll die often during my runs).

My previous best run was probably a little above average in results, so the 500k difference this time is lower than I expect to maintain in the long term. I'm going to give it another go sometime soon to make sure.

I'm also going to see if I can get someone to loan me a couple of 6xLem swords for a test, just to see what the difference will be over my current 2xLem Ali Babas setup. I'll be keeping the Ali Babas long term for the MF, but it would be nice to know how close I can get to the top runners if I add another ~125 GF to my horking.

Finally, I had a few decent drops during this stretch too: +3 Lightning Ormus Robes, a Highlord's Wrath, and a decent-roll Ravenfrost (19/212).



Run Tracker:
#1: 5.264.249 (gold found)
#2: 3.158.169 (Nightmare = Fail)
#3: 5.526.418
#4: 5.743.387
#5: 7.012.362
#6: 7.499.106

Edit:
Neither of these two are factored into the table yet

#7: 7.449.073 (another crappy run)
#8: 7.696.746 (probably pretty average, and had a merc death)
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Gave it a shot, as promised. I am not happy, because a) I didn't collect 700K+ gold on any of the runs (I actually had a couple below 200K!!!) and b) I had to S&E twice (first time because of conviction with fe/le and possibly ce geleb - merc was fried instantly and 2nd time because of holy freeze + pi - don't recall seeing that before). Anyway, I improved my best, but didn't break 12M gold. Table updated below:

Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   20 |  10.937.334 |WW      |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW      |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.851.172 |    4 |  10.301.143 |Warcry  |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief|  8.130.547 |    3 |   6.368.684 |WW      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.499.106 |    6 |   5.700.615 |WW      |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
I think I can top the current records of the melee GFers with my current setup, which includes:

- maxed cr/fr/lr
- 4625 life / 1040 mana
- 2341 gf on merc kill / 2172 gf on hork

I'll try to do some more runs within the week :)
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Well done! It's great to see the continued efforts here. They've inspired me to take a break from my other current projects and level a WW Ax barb that I have in mind for Trav GF runner once he's stronger. He's still doing NM Baal runs and he'll have a bunch of loans to pay off (from ax repairs!) by the time he's eventually ready for his GF runs.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

I counted my GF for the first time in quite a while, and it's quite a bit higher when horking than yours zerth, 2556. I think that's the main reason my best results so far are higher than yours, because I doubt I'm beating you by much in the run speed department. Of course, until today, I've been playing with 200 less GF (from Chance Guards), but 2356 is still a lot more. The difference I noticed after equipping Chance Guards was enormous, so I must imagine the difference between 2172 and 2356 to be very significant too.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

How much gf do you have when killing? I suspect you lose 900 GF, which should more than compensate for your higher GF when horking. I have not counted number of runs lately, but i should be doing 25-30 runs in 30 minutes. I suspect that /p3 is the most significant advantage for the melee chars.

BTW how do you reach 2556 gf? I get 2172 with the following:

Helm: 125 (Lem'd rare circlet)
Boots+Amulet+Belt: 239 (80+80+79)
2 x 6Lem CSs: 900 GF
2 x Dwarf Stars: 200
Chance Guards: 200
Gheeds + 7 x GCs: 419
10 x SCs: 89

(Assuming a 2x3 empty inventory space to pick up the occasional goody) I can imagine an extra +300 from Wealth armor, +25 for a perfect CoT with Lem, +1 for perfect amulet+belt+boots, +11 for 10 perfect SCs and +21 for perfect Gheeds and 7 perfect GCs. This totals to an extra 358 GF or 2530 total GF. Where do the extra 26 come from? (just curious btw :))
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

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| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   21 |  10.983.940 |WW      |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW      |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.851.172 |    4 |  10.301.143 |Warcry  |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief|  8.130.547 |    3 |   6.368.684 |WW      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.499.106 |    6 |   5.700.615 |WW      |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
Did one more, 11.916.062. It's possible I've overestimated how big of a help Chance Guards will be compared to LoH. I'll keep experimenting with both, especially once I get better weapons (still using an Oath for christs sake :))

zerth, it's the 2x3 empty inventory space that's throwing you off :) Here's what I have:

Body Armor 300
Horking 900
Gloves 200/0
Belt 72
Amulet 64
Helm 150
Rings 200
Boots 80
----
Total 1966/1766

Gheeds 157
8 more GC's totaling 313
2 LCs totaling 41
8 SCs totaling 79
1 SC with dexterity because of misplaced stat points.. awkward :)
---
Total 590 (nice round 600 once I can replace that dex SC)
Grand Total 2556/2356

My inventory is completely packed when doing these runs, I don't bother picking up items as it means both wasting time looking for them and wasting GF to have place for them. Normally when I run outside the tournament, when my main goal isn't maximizing gold found for 30 minutes, I ditch one GC and one SC and have the cube with me, where I can place stuff I find.

Oh, and I run on p1 too. I'll definitely experiment more with p3 soon.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Might as well write my own down too, just to illustrate the differences in GF and results between you top-runners and me in the middle of the pack :D:

merc: 0
primary weapons & armor: 0

Lem'ed CoT (146)
rare ammy (56)
crafted belt (72)
chance guards (200)
2x Dwarf Star (200)
Infernostride (68)
Gheeds: 158
all other charms: 162
switch: 774

Total GF: 1062 / 1836
MF: 75 / 265

... you guys with your 2000+ GF are insane. I'm still fragile enough with level95, every resist over 65, 13/6 leech, and extra power/speed (read: leech & safety) from Fortitude. Squeezing more GF on there obviously makes a very big difference in returns, but I can't imagine the number of NDE's you must have.


PS. Total GF should really be another column in the table. :p If no one beats me to it, I'll add it next time I update.
 

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Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Wow, those are incredible GF totals!

I thought it would be more like MF, where improving speed is more important than improving MF, but I wasn't remembering that MF has diminishing returns but GF does not. Lots of good ideas and strategies already and I'm looking forward to learning more as I get close to getting a reasonable entry!
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Hmm, I had a look at my stashes. I can squeeze in another 72GF and 100 mana if I ditch the 2x3 free inventory space. I will do it for the sake of competition when I run for this tourney.

Edit: fixed the table to indicate GF as per sirpoops' suggestion (even though most people change setups and therefore GF every now and then ;))

Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |GF on kill|GF on hork|
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   21 |  10.983.940 |WW      |          |          |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.851.172 |    4 |  10.301.143 |Warcry  |      2351|      2244|
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |          |          |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |          |          |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |          |          |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief|  8.130.547 |    3 |   6.368.684 |WW      |          |          |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |          |          |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.499.106 |    6 |   5.700.615 |WW      |          |          |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |          |          |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|          |          |
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |          |          |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|          |          |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |          |          |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Guess I'll detail mine, as well.

None from merc, weapons or amulet

Lem'd CoT: 150
Wealth: 300
Chancies: 200
rare Belt: 76
Rings: 200
rare Boots: 80
Charms: 391

GF: 1397 on kill, 2147 (dual dual Lem'd Ali Baba's) on hork. Items are at least as important to me as gold so I have 3x4 slots empty and I run with a 40% Gheed's instead of my highest GF one. MF is 80/260.

I'm surprised by all of your talks about fragility. My barb has died once, and I can count the other NDE's on one hand. He's had no issues at all since I got his Fire Res up to 62 (cold and light are maxed; even when they were ~60 there was no issue). Maybe your leech is too low?

After I finish leveling the barb in the pits for the alvl 85 tourney I'm gonna give him another go for this. I'm hoping with the higher level he can kill faster and move up a few spots.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |GF on kill|GF on hork|
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   21 |  10.983.940 |WW      |          |          |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.851.172 |    4 |  10.301.143 |Warcry  |      2351|      2244|
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |          |          |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |          |          |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |          |          |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief|  8.130.547 |    3 |   6.368.684 |WW      |          |          |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |          |          |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |    8 |   6.168.688 |WW      |  1062    |  1836    |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |          |          |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|          |          |
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |          |          |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|          |          |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |          |          |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
Did a couple more sessions and finally managed to get a run that 'felt' average in results, instead of crappy. Because of it I managed to leap over AJK in my highest score, despite a merc death.

If I get my hands on a couple of 6xLem swords I'll do a last comparison run, but that's it for me (unless AJK comes back, or someone comes along, & jumps over me in the standings ;)).


Run Tracker:
#1: 5.264.249 (gold found)
#2: 3.158.169 (Nightmare = Fail)
#3: 5.526.418
#4: 5.743.387
#5: 7.012.362
#6: 7.499.106
#7: 7.449.073
#8: 7.696.746


Edit: Also grabbed a cold skiller and an interesting circlet in the last batch of runs. I wish the mana leech had been FCR, FHR, or life; then it would've rocked.

Code:
Armageddon Veil
Circlet
Defense: 23
Durability: 32 of 35
Required Level: 51
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 85
Fingerprint: 0x2ba94bba
+18 to Strength
+16 to Dexterity
Fire Resist +39%
Lightning Resist +17%
Cold Resist +17%
Poison Resist +17%
3% Mana stolen per hit
+2 to Cold Skills (Sorceress Only)
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |GF on kill|GF on hork|
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   21 |  10.983.940 |WW      |          |          |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.725.818 |    5 |  10.786.078 |Warcry  |2351      |2244      |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |          |          |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |          |          |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |          |          |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief|  8.130.547 |    3 |   6.368.684 |WW      |1397      |2147      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |          |          |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |    8 |   6.168.688 |WW      |1062      |1836      |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |          |          |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|          |          |
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |          |          |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|          |          |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |          |          |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
Another try improves yet again my personal record, but still leaves me 1M gold short to beat the competition. Note that:

- I died once (torc icefist that was fe/le on top of the usual ce - 4.6K to 0 life in milliseconds :/)
- Merc died twice on conviction superunique (once when the nova triggered on death and the other time i think it was from lightning bolts).

WW barbs beware, warcry ftw ;)
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |GF on kill|GF on hork|
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   21 |  10.983.940 |WW      |          |          |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    6 |  11.131.195 |Warcry  |2351      |2244      |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |          |          |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |          |          |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |          |          |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief|  8.130.547 |    3 |   6.368.684 |WW      |1397      |2147      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |          |          |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |    8 |   6.168.688 |WW      |1062      |1836      |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |          |          |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|          |          |
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |          |          |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|          |          |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |          |          |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
2 merc deaths this time. Still under the 13M mark, though just barely.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

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| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |GF on kill|GF on hork|
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   21 |  11.144.955 |WW      |          |          |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    6 |  11.131.195 |Warcry  |2351      |2244      |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |          |          |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |          |          |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |          |          |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief|  8.130.547 |    3 |   6.368.684 |WW      |1397      |2147      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |          |          |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |    8 |   6.168.688 |WW      |1062      |1836      |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |          |          |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|          |          |
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |          |          |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|          |          |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |          |          |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|

I've been running Travincal outside of these tournament conditions lately, but I felt like giving it another (last?) go with my sword whirler, before I start leveling my axe whirler soon. So I loaded up two more GCs and two more SCs and went as fast as possible for an hour. Results were good but not great, but I think ~14M might be the ceiling for this character. I'm definitely looking to break that once I have the axe whirler ready though, as I'll be able to play around with lots of potentially better equipment (due to stupidly placed stat points I can't really switch around the belt and amulet slot as I'd like right now). 100M collected in about two days though, pretty nice.

1. 13.198.782
2. 12.472.443
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

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| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |GF on kill|GF on hork|
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   21 |  11.144.955 |WW      |          |          |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    6 |  11.131.195 |Warcry  |2351      |2244      |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |          |          |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |          |          |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |          |          |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief|  8.144.713 |    4 |   6.812.692 |WW      |1397      |2147      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |          |          |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |    8 |   6.168.688 |WW      |1062      |1836      |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |          |          |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|          |          |
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |          |          |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|          |          |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |          |          |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
Now that Gib has hit 93 I wanted to give him another go. Unfortunately, I only barely broke my previous best run, but part of that comes down to some bad drops (three runs were under 200k), part to 4 merc deaths and part to losing over a minute gawking at this, my first true high rune. I would've preferred a Lo, but what're ya gonna do?
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

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Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |GF on kill|GF on hork|
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW      |1458/1658 |2358/2558 |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    6 |  11.131.195 |Warcry  |2351      |2244      |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |          |          |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |          |          |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |          |          |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief|  8.144.713 |    4 |   6.812.692 |WW      |1397      |2147      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |          |          |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |    8 |   6.168.688 |WW      |1062      |1836      |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |          |          |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|          |          |
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |          |          |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|          |          |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |          |          |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|

The two runs I did yesterday was with the Chance Guards setup; I felt I had to do two "final" runs with Laying of Hands too, for symmetry. Went pretty well again, honestly I don't know which gloves I prefer at this point. My best results have come with LoH, but I think better weapons might make the ED less important and the GF more important. Time will tell. Also added GF numbers on kill/hork.

1. 11.932.689
2. 13.300.007
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |GF on kill|GF on hork|
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW      |1458/1658 |2358/2558 |
|Fabian       | AxeGoldie      | 13.871.432 |    3 |  12.688.860 |WW      |1402      |2302      |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    6 |  11.131.195 |Warcry  |2351      |2244      |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |          |          |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |          |          |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |          |          |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief|  8.144.713 |    4 |   6.812.692 |WW      |1397      |2147      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |          |          |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |    8 |   6.168.688 |WW      |1062      |1836      |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |          |          |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|          |          |
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |          |          |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|          |          |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |          |          |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
I leveled my new Axe WWer to 90 and decided that would do for now, and took him out for a few Travincal runs. Still 2 skill points unspent, and 35 (I think) stat points. Spending stat points correctly meant I could test new amulets, and it meant adding another GF SC to the inventory over a dexterity charm. Here's the amulet I've been trying:

Code:
Ghoul Necklace
Amulet
Required Level: 48
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 93
Fingerprint: 0xdbaaaffb
+14 to Mana
+4 to Minimum Damage
6% Mana stolen per hit
+1 to Barbarian Skill Levels
+2 to Light Radius
Level 2 Teleport (25/25 Charges)
It's amazing, teleport really is insane.

I tried once with LoH, then once with Chance Guards, then once more with LoH. I had horrible luck during the first two runs, I could feel how good the setup worked, the gold piles just wouldn't drop. Then, during the third run it went pretty well, and I almost beat my old record (technically, I guess I did collect more gold, but that teleport amulet needs to be recharged :)). AxeGoldie is overtaking WWGoldie very soon, no question. I think 15M is easily doable with a teleport amulet.

1. 11.801.817
2. 12.393.332
3. 13.871.432

He has really nice and round GF numbers too:

Equipment: 802
Switch: 900
Charms: 600
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |GF on kill|GF on hork|
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW      |1458/1658 |2358/2558 |
|Fabian       | AxeGoldie      | 13.871.432 |    3 |  12.688.860 |WW      |1402      |2302      |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry  |2351      |2244      |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |          |          |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |          |          |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |          |          |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief|  8.144.713 |    4 |   6.812.692 |WW      |1397      |2147      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |          |          |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |    8 |   6.168.688 |WW      |1062      |1836      |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |          |          |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|          |          |
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |          |          |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|          |          |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |          |          |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
Gave it another shot. It was pretty disappointing. I actually had a run with less than 100K collected. Oh, well. I still managed to pile 11142025 gold (which is very close to my average).

The toon has now a new ammy, so I made a couple small charm changes.

Code:
Eagle Beads
Amulet
Required Level: 67
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 94
Fingerprint: 0x284a1dc8
All Resistances +13
71% Extra Gold from Monsters
+2 to Barbarian Skill Levels
10% Faster Cast Rate
replaced this:

Code:
Chaos Scarab
Amulet
Required Level: 37
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 96
Fingerprint: 0x49996372
+1 to Life
+22 to Mana
Regenerate Mana 6%
All Resistances +8
79% Extra Gold from Monsters
5% Faster Cast Rate
Also, I started leveling SMD3 (ScroogeMcDuckIII is apparently too long for the game :D). He will benefit from additional points to find item (about 3% increase according to my calcs). I am also considering less points to WarCry to cut down the mana cost per cast, so I can spam it even more (not that it is a problem with 1.1K mana, mind you). Also some extra points to natural resists and probably increased speed if I can afford to.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

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| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |GF on kill|GF on hork|
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
|Fabian       | AxeGoldie      | 15.386.176 |    7 |  13.401.715 |WW      |1402      |2302      |
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW      |1458/1658 |2358/2558 |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry  |2351      |2244      |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |          |          |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |          |          |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |          |          |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief|  8.144.713 |    4 |   6.812.692 |WW      |1397      |2147      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |          |          |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |    8 |   6.168.688 |WW      |1062      |1836      |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |          |          |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|          |          |
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |          |          |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|          |          |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |          |          |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|

Tried again a bit. Still no new record, but I still think it's safe to say it's in the cards considering the average compared to my old barb. First run was p1 with LoH, second was p3 with LoH, and third run was p1 with Chance Guards.

Based on how it went, I don't think p3 is optimal until I get Beast, the slowdown compared to p1 felt too severe.

I still can't decide which I like best, CG or LoH. I'll keep trying them both.

1. 13.646.703
2. 13.152.332
3. 13.380.216


Edit: Actually, scratch the above. I decided to do one more run, because I'm addicted like that, and it went rather well. Despite having two runs near the beginning where 1 and 3 piles of gold dropped, respectively, and a few other bad runs, I ended up with nearly 15½ million. This was the first time I tried running in windowed mode to decrease loading times, and I can't really explain why I haven't done so until now. It probably saved 3-4 seconds per run, bringing the average run time to something like 47-48s. It's tough to know exactly as the run counter adds a run every time you mule off gold in ATMA. That said, this would have been a new record anyway, windowed mode or not.

4. 15.386.176
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |GF on kill|GF on hork|
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
|Fabian       | AxeGoldie      | 15.386.176 |    9 |  13.567.274 |WW      |1411      |2311      |
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW      |1458/1658 |2358/2558 |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry  |2351      |2244      |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |          |          |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |          |          |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |          |          |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief|  8.144.713 |    4 |   6.812.692 |WW      |1397      |2147      |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |          |          |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |    8 |   6.168.688 |WW      |1062      |1836      |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |          |          |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|          |          |
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |          |          |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|          |          |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |          |          |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
Did another two runs, nothing too exciting to report. The Teleport charges still help a lot. Still quite a few runs with very few gold piles dropping. Still p1 with LoH.

1. 13.985.161
2. 14.308.704
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Well done! The "spirit of ending improvement" is alive and well and it's great to see the experiments, adjustments and improvements!
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

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| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |GF on kill|GF on hork|
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
|Fabian       | AxeGoldie      | 15.386.176 |    9 |  13.567.274 |WW      |1411      |2311      |
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW      |1458/1658 |2358/2558 |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry  |2351      |2244      |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief|  9.111.103 |    6 |   7.527.260 |WW      |1437      |2201      |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |          |          |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |          |          |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |          |          |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |          |          |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |    8 |   6.168.688 |WW      |1062      |1836      |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |          |          |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|          |          |
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |          |          |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|          |          |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |          |          |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
Added in another GC and another SC, Soled the merc's Glad's Bane and Umed the merc's Vamp Gaze. Conviction is still rough on him, but the extra resists definitely help.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

maareek said:
Added in another GC and another SC, Soled the merc's Glad's Bane and Umed the merc's Vamp Gaze. Conviction is still rough on him, but the extra resists definitely help.
Since I've switched to the GBane & VampGaze setup, I've noticed that the merc seems to do much better with Conviction if I leave the Conviction boss alone and instead focus on tanking/killing the most concentrated area of hydras/monsters. Once I've killed 2/3rd of the council the peripheral damage seems low enough the merc can usually survive now, even with Conviction still active.

The new process seems somewhat counter-intuitive to me, and it's also counter to how I would run with his old Kiras/GA setup. In the old setup I'd always try desperately to take out the Conviction boss asap, as it was critical to the merc's survival.

I don't know which tactic you're using, but you might try to switch it up to see if it makes an improvement.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

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| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |GF on kill|GF on hork|
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
|Fabian       | AxeGoldie      | 15.386.176 |   11 |  13.686.171 |WW      |1411      |2311      |
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW      |1458/1658 |2358/2558 |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry  |2351      |2244      |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief|  9.111.103 |    6 |   7.527.260 |WW      |1437      |2201      |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |          |          |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |          |          |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |          |          |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |          |          |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |    8 |   6.168.688 |WW      |1062      |1836      |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |          |          |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|          |          |
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |          |          |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|          |          |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |          |          |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
Still plugging away, I know I can beat my current record somewhat significantly with great luck. Didn't happen this time though, first try went well, but I died once (ugh), and had to abort another run (ugh), as well as an additional merc death. More trouble than all the other runs combined (not literally, but not too far away).

The second run started very well and I thought I'd have a new record, but in the last 10 minutes I had one run above 400k, which was incredibly frustrating. Still managed to do around average.

I've been running with the same setup for a while now, but I feel so confident in my barb and mercs' survival that I'm going to try some different things. The merc has got a new Reaper's with the same ED but more leech, which should help, so I'm going to try some Gladiator's Bane/Guardian Angel/Treachery and Kira's Guardian/Crown of Thieves combos and see what I like.

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Re: Piles of Money Tourney

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| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |GF on kill|GF on hork|
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
|Fabian       | AxeGoldie      | 15.386.176 |   12 |  13.807.159 |WW      |1411      |2311      |
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW      |1458/1658 |2358/2558 |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry  |2351      |2244      |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief|  9.111.103 |    6 |   7.527.260 |WW      |1437      |2201      |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |          |          |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |          |          |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |          |          |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |          |          |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |    8 |   6.168.688 |WW      |1062      |1836      |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |          |          |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|          |          |
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |          |          |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|          |          |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |          |          |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
Felt like trying out Chance Guards a bit more. Having big piles drop is definitely fun, and I can't tell which is better at this point. Merc has been wearing CoT/Gladiator's Bane lately, it seems to work well. He died once during this run too, but survived most convictions (like always, nowadays). I might try Treachery soon.

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Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |GF on kill|GF on hork|
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
|Fabian       | AxeGoldie      | 15.430.438 |   13 |  13.932.026 |WW      |1612      |2512      |
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW      |1458      |2358      |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry  |2351      |2244      |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief|  9.111.103 |    6 |   7.527.260 |WW      |1437      |2201      |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |          |          |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |          |          |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |          |          |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |          |          |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |    8 |   6.168.688 |WW      |1062      |1836      |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |          |          |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|          |          |
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |          |          |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|          |          |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |          |          |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
Sorry to be the sole bumper of this thread, but I broke my old record (though just barely), and I figured it was newsworthy :)

I got a new belt from a trade, which might barely beat out my old belt. I swapped this:

Code:
Shadow Strap
Mithril Coil
Defense: 105
Durability: 16 of 16
Required Strength: 106
Required Level: 56
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 80
Fingerprint: 0xbcad0c42
+9 to Strength
+60% Enhanced Defense
Lightning Resist +5%
80% Extra Gold from Monsters
24% Faster Hit Recovery
in instead of this:
Code:
Demon Winding
Sharkskin Belt
Defense: 45
Durability: 13 of 14
Required Strength: 20
Required Level: 25
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 86
Fingerprint: 0x9c318aa6
+54 to Life
+24% Enhanced Defense
Fire Resist +25%
Lightning Resist +10%
72% Extra Gold from Monsters
24% Faster Hit Recovery
Clearly the "old" belt is better on paper, but I've felt so safe lately that I hoped losing the extra resists wouldn't be too bad. Losing 54 life would surely suck, though.

Well, it wasn't particularly safe. I died once within the first 5 minutes of my test runs with the new belt, and I died again during the Piles of Money run itself, putting my total number of deaths with AxeGoldie so far to 4.You see, I played with Chance Guards instead of LoH, so between only having 58% Fire Resist, I also didn't have the Fire Absorb from LoH, and I didn't leech nearly enough since my damage is so much lower with Chance Guards. Because of this, I switched out these:

Code:
Steel Grand Charm of Greed
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 29
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 99
Fingerprint: 0x4d76cdcd
+98 to Attack Rating
38% Extra Gold from Monsters

Ocher Small Charm of Greed
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 15
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 85
Fingerprint: 0xdc8a171
Lightning Resist +6%
10% Extra Gold from Monsters
and tried these instead:
Code:
Sharp Large Charm of Greed
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 21
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 36
Fingerprint: 0x77e2f733
+38 to Attack Rating
+4 to Maximum Damage
19% Extra Gold from Monsters

Sharp Large Charm of Greed
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 21
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: **
Fingerprint: 0x413f3728
+25 to Attack Rating
+5 to Maximum Damage
22% Extra Gold from Monsters
The idea here was to sacrifice some GF (9%) and some AR (35) for 9 max damage. I hoped this would make leeching a bit easier. On reflection, this line of thought doesn't make that much sense, because if I felt the added damage was worth losing the AR (which is more important imo, in general), wouldn't I always be using the Large Charms? Well, either way, that's what I did, although I'm probably switching back in the future. I hate lowering my GF on puropse :)

Seriously though about the charms, I feel like the Large Charms might be more useful when going with Chance Guards, but the "extra" added damage from them aren't so useful when going with LoH; in that case the GC + SC would be better. Thoughts?

I feel like I want to level to 91 before using this belt full time, it felt a wee bit unsafe with 58% FR, much less Fire Absorb and well over 100 less life, especially when not leeching that much. Then again, speed goes over safety when doing this tourney, as a great result will come when everything goes right.

As for the run itself, I died in the first 5 minutes which pissed me off. After that, things went well until the last few minutes, when things were slow. I thought I had a new record, but I wasn't sure, so seeing that I beat the old score with ~45k was fun. That's basically one gold pile.

I decided to put the GF numbers I use for my best run in the table, not the GF numbers I use most of the time. So I modified my GF column too; this time 1010 from equipment, 900 from switch, 602 from charms.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

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| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |GF on kill|GF on hork|
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
|Fabian       | AxeGoldie      | 16.481.925 |   14 |  14.114.161 |WW      |1619      |2519      |
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW      |1458      |2358      |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry  |2351      |2244      |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief|  9.111.103 |    6 |   7.527.260 |WW      |1437      |2201      |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |          |          |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |          |          |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |          |          |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |          |          |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |    8 |   6.168.688 |WW      |1062      |1836      |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |          |          |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|          |          |
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |          |          |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|          |          |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |          |          |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
Question: What happens when you make a second Grief, making your kill speed with Chance Guards nearly the same as it was with Laying of Hands before you made said Grief?

Answer: You get a lot of gold, that's what!

I made the Grief, equipped it, and literally started this 30 minute set right away; no sense in practicing :) It went really well, having time for more runs than usual with more GF than usual is.. it's good.

That said, it could still go better. No less than 3 times did I have to leave gold on the ground from bad planning. I just got more than I was used to, so instead of having enough room for that last run before emptying in ATMA, I had to leave a few piles on the ground. I think it was less than 100k every time though, probably something like 200k total, so it's not the end of the world. The merc also died once from Conviction (he's back to using Glad's Bane/CoT for now, will probably switch back to Treachery soon).

Anyway this felt pretty good :) Beating my old record with more than 1 million, can't complain.

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Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Very nice, you are really pushing the gold returns to their limits!

Dual grief should be very close to grief/beast, but I sense there is still room for improvement ;)

I didn't like the dual grief pb version of my GFer though, I have really got used to the more relaxed tempo of the warcry barb :D
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

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| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |GF on kill|GF on hork|
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
|Fabian       | AxeGoldie      | 16.481.925 |   14 |  14.114.161 |WW      |1619      |2519      |
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW      |1458      |2358      |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry  |2351      |2244      |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief|  9.111.103 |    6 |   7.527.260 |WW      |1437      |2201      |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |          |          |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |          |          |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |          |          |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |          |          |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |   10 |   5.669.806 |WW      |1062      |1836      |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |          |          |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|          |          |
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |          |          |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|          |          |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |          |          |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
I borrowed a couple of 6xLem hork weapons from Jaedhann to replace my Lem'ed Alibaba's... and my totals went down. I think that about sums up my luck during the 9th 30 minute stretch.

I'll do one more pass with the Lem'ed weapons, as it'd been a while since I ran with Igor, so I was out of practice at the start and it may have cost me a run overall. And maybe I'll be able to break 8M if I get better luck.

I'll edit this post to add the 10th run when I'm done, and update my average at that time.


Edit: It's amazing the difference a few good runs makes. My best run during batch #10 was really good, and produced about 850k (about ~150k of that from a champ pack that spawned nearby). 850k is probably good enough to make my top5 runs of all time (in a couple of thousand runs). That run and having a pretty reliable average (~400k throughout) had me easily on pace for over 8M for the last batch. But my final 3 runs only produced about 500k gold total, which meant I didn't even match my previous 30 minute best (despite having ~150% more GF on hork for this pass).

In regards to Ali Baba's vs. socketed 6xLem weapons, I definitely prefer the Alibaba's. It means less gold over time, but I think in the long run having the MF boost for horking is worth it for me. Not having 12 Lems available to burn right now also makes the decision pretty easy. :p


That's officially it for me in this tournament (at least until I hax up some more silly runewords to go with my new Enigma and do a rebuild). I couldn't do much to push myself out of the middle of the pack, but I can live with that - as Fabian has demonstrated, that last push towards top results requires some pretty top gear across the board (and some extensive testing). I don't have the inclination to push any harder on this, nor do I have an abundance of super-nice GF gear... and I doubt I ever will.

👋

Run Tracker:
#1: 5.264.249 (gold found)
#2: 3.158.169 (Nightmare = Fail)
#3: 5.526.418
#4: 5.743.387
#5: 7.012.362
#6: 7.499.106
#7: 7.449.073
#8: 7.696.746
#9: 7.149.420
#10: 7.648.202
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |GF on kill|GF on hork|
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
|Fabian       | AxeGoldie      | 16.481.925 |   14 |  14.114.161 |WW      |1619      |2519      |
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW      |1458      |2358      |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry  |2351      |2244      |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 |   12 |   8.199.068 |WW      |1461      |2225      |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |          |          |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |          |          |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |          |          |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |          |          |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |   10 |   5.669.806 |WW      |1062      |1836      |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |          |          |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|          |          |
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |          |          |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|          |          |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |          |          |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
Decided to do a serious test of Death Cleaver versus Death for the second hand. Three 30 minute sets with each. The best run with the Death Cleaver beat out the worst run with the Death, though just slightly. It's not a lot of testing, but the luck was pretty even (except for my new record run) so it's looking like Death is the better option. Especially considering it'd be really tough to cobble together a better DC than this, while the Death is a fairly low roll (336).

Ten million is a nice mark and I don't think I'll be beating that without restricting what I pick up even further, and I don't think that's going to happen. Unless I manage to get an Enigma or drastically improve my weapons, I doubt I'll be doing any more running for this tournament. Was really enjoyable trying to eek out every bit I could out of Gib, though.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

*casts revive thread*

Made an attempt at a GF Sorc doing LK runs.
Name: IhateSorcs
1209 GF
4,278,508 gold
1st run
took 29Min 30Sec (26 runs with selling and muling included in time)

I figured I could have made another couple thousand if I went for a few more chests. Didn't want to risk going over 30 mins though.

I should get bonus points for finding a Pul and racking a set and a unique :nod:

__________________

My 2nd run took 29:47 (27 runs +muling etc)
Made a little bit less 4,129,972 yay randomness!

I did find a mal though so I will forgive the game.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

With a lvl 99 character it takes averagely 160.000.000.000 gold to gamble a Tyraels might. (for lower chars the odds to gamble TC87 is much lower). So with 32.000.000 gold each hour Fabian can have enough gold to gamble Tyraels after about 5000 hours. (likely he will spend more then 5000 hours refreshing the gamble screen though and transfering gold :D)
Conclusion: gambling ancient armors is not worth it :), allthough a gambled T'might would have bonus stylepoints.

edit: finding Tyraels might in a lvl 85 area with 10sec/unique will take average 1000 hours to compare.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Oh dear.
Especially if it had an interesting ilvl like 96 or something!
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

I've gambled maybe 8-10 Ancient Armors in my life, and one of those was a Rare Sacred Armor. I thought that was cool at the time :) Still a long ways away from Tyrael's, I'll admit.
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Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |GF on kill|GF on hork|
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
|Fabian       | TravBarb       | 16.649.211 |    1 |  16.649.211 |WW      |1636      |2536      |
|Fabian       | AxeGoldie      | 16.481.925 |   14 |  14.114.161 |WW      |1619      |2519      |
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW      |1458      |2358      |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry  |2351      |2244      |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 |   12 |   8.199.068 |WW      |1461      |2225      |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |          |          |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |          |          |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |          |          |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |          |          |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |   10 |   5.669.806 |WW      |1062      |1836      |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |          |          |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|          |          |
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |          |          |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|          |          |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |          |          |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
Oh hai guise.

Put together a goldbarb today. Ran him for a bit to get used to playing in Trav again, then took him out for a spin in this tournament. I died once and aborted a run once, so overall I wouldn't call it a huge success. He sure collects a lot of gold though, and this is with equipment which still can be improvable. I played with a Teleport amulet with 0% GF (nice other mods though), which kinda sucks, and a few of my charms are less than great. The belt kinda sucks too, it's mostly there for 80% GF and not much else.

Quick rundown of equipment:

2 1.07 eth BA Griefs (0)
2 eth Crystal Sword 6Lem on Switch (900)
Wealth Archon Plate (300)
Lem'd Crown of Thieves (150)
2 Dwarf Star (200)
Chance Guards (200)
Rare Belt 24FHR/9str/5LR/80GF (80)
Rare Amulet 2Barb/15str/31life/[email protected]/18LR/Teleport (0)
1.07 War Traveler (100)

Gheed's (160)
8 GC's totaling (315)
2 LC's totaling (41)
9 SC's totaling (90)

1030 Equipment, 900 Switch, 606 Charms for a total of 1636 on kill, 2536 on hork.

Kill speed is more or less fine on p3, though it's certainly not what you're used to when doing Trav in non-GF gear. It would be a lot faster on p1, but you'd get fewer gold piles. I have no opinion on what would be the most time efficient yet; I suspect p3 though.

I have a weird issue with my Diablo where the game often doesn't register my mouse movement/clicks, as such I control the whirling pretty bad and overall the playing could be improved slightly as a result. Loading times are pretty fine though even though I don't do windowed mode; I'll try that some in the future when I get closer to optimal with this guy.

I'll be trying Enigma with some different Amulets; I don't yet have an opinion on which is better, but the 300 GF you lose from Wealth hurts *a lot*, I know that much. The character is level 91 and hasn't been respecced for good skill point/stat point placement; this should help a bit once I finalize his equipment and such. I think I have a few wasted points in Find Item at the moment, for instance.

I'd really kinda like to fit some FCR somehow; especially after I'm used to horking with my 105FCR/CBF Berserker this guy's post combat part of the run is just super glacial. I'm not sure if it's feasible to do so in a good way though. CBF is also potentially welcome, and Cham'ing the CoT instead of a Lem seems to be pretty reasonable option.

Those are all my thoughts for now. This record will be destroyed once I get my old technique/better equipment/a better character/a better run. I'm trying to find some good stuff in the trade forum now, so hopefully he'll improve quickly :)
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Hmm nice tournament! I like the idea. So is the tournament still going or it's now a general thread to talk about gold finders?

I'd like to chip in with my GF barb too. He's currently respeced into a level 95 runner ( for max chance on gambling amulet ), but this is what I used before..

Crown of thieves Lem (150)
'Wealth' hellforge plate (300)
'Grief' berserker axe (0)
Rune master ettin axe 5 Lem ( 375 )
Laying of hands ( 0)
Highlord's wrath ( 0)
M'avina's tenet ( 0)
2x Dwarf star ( 200 )
Rare boot, 23 CR, 30 frw ( 70 )

switch - 2 Lem blades of ali baba ( ~383 )

Gheeds - 149
other charms - 100 approx

I haven't actually calculated how much GF there is, but this gear lets me do p3 runs without any problem and gets about 400k per run ( and a run takes a minute on p3, max ). Some stuff can be improved, I suppose. I tried replacing HLW and LoH but it just cuts down killspeed too much. Don't know why ppl want teleport. Running into Durance 1 and out works fine for me. I don't use time travel equipment or e-bug. ( consider them cheese )
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Well zaphod it's been like 90 minutes since the last run attempt was added to the table, no? It happened to be a new record, too.

I say go for it. Just remember that the 30 minutes includes everything, including muling etc, from when you start the first run. And it can be nice to use a timing method that beeps after exactly 30 minutes so you know when to stop the last run.
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Well done, Fabian! It's great to see improvement and I am hopeful about even more with more optimization/experimentation!
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I still lack a lot of potential GF. I have found about 120 more GF worth in charms though. I will need to run andy to get a gheeds and another dwarf, still no GF on helm or ammy yet either. I am well aware I am not going to have any serious shot at #1. If I can crack 7 mil though with a sorc I will consider it a personal success.


-Edit-
Oh I did 3 other runs over the last few days that I haven't posted yet.

*attempt 3- made 3,719,859. 30 runs over 29:57. I forgot to do Players 7 for the first 3 runs I did this attempt, and I also had to take a phone call that lasted for a few minutes, was considering not posting this attempt, but w/e my fails still count anyways I guess.

attempt 4- made 4,689,112 gold over 29 runs lasting 29:52.

Attempt 5- made 5,027,743 gold over 31 runs lasting 29:47.
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Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |GF on kill|GF on hork|
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
|Fabian       | TravBarb       | 17.369.817 |    5 |  16.275.416 |WW      |1657      |2557      |
|Fabian       | AxeGoldie      | 16.481.925 |   14 |  14.114.161 |WW      |1619      |2519      |
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW      |1458      |2358      |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry  |2351      |2244      |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 |   12 |   8.199.068 |WW      |1461      |2225      |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |          |          |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |          |          |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |          |          |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |          |          |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |   10 |   5.669.806 |WW      |1062      |1836      |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |          |          |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|          |          |
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |          |          |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|          |          |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |          |          |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
Did some messing around with the equipment. I traded a pair of rare boots with 111% GF from scrcrw (pre-1.07) which I switched in for the 1.07 War Traveler. After playing for a while, I'm not sure it's worth it; FRW is really really good, especially so when you go Enigma-less. So, I'll probably try them both some more, while holding out hope that some Classic guy will find a pair with GF and FRW, which would be neato.

I also got some charms from jimsfriend, who has a lovely collection of GF charms. Currently I'm only 4% off from having a "perfect" GF charmset, and all the GC's (and some SC's) have pretty sweet damage/AR prefixes. Thanks man.

During my early playing for today, an Ohm dropped. It meant I had enough stuff to Deathbug and Grief a new 1.07 BA, and I got lucky with the roll (36/394), so that meant a bit of an upgrade to the old (380) axe it replaced.

Ok, that's out of the way. The big question for the day was Wealth vs Enigma. I've played a bit with a number of different setups today; first I did a run with the Wealth/Tele amulet from my last post (nice Amulet but no GF). The run felt pretty smooth and nice, but it was one of those ridiculous runs where nothing goes right. I had two consecutive runs where a total of 3 gold piles dropped (no shattered corpses). So, whatever, 15½ million still. I then switched to Enigma and a 2barb/10FCR/4ML/50GF/(16MF)/(4%manaregen) Amulet. I don't actually have any ML on my other setup, so this armor/amulet combo was really sweet in a number of ways; more skills, more FRW, huge Strength boost, an FCR breakpoint (very welcome indeed), oh and Teleport. When I started a run, it went pretty smoothly and stuff, gold piles were very noticably smaller though, end result 16.4 million. I liked it, but wasn't convinced. I then switched out the Amulet for Highlord's Wrath (unfortunately I couldn't get jimsfriend's 1.08 HLW which has FRW over IAS; it would be super helpful for this character). Again, it was pretty nice to be playing with Enigma since you run fast and teleport fast and bla bla, but the size of the gold piles are relatively depressing. As I recall the run was kinda bad anyway, end result 15.3 million, in any case. At this point I was kinda fed up with Enigma and wanted to go back to Wealth, especially now that I had new boots/axe/charms and stuff. So back to the Wealth/tele amulet and did a run, which went ok but not great. I died once (sigh), and the timing of the runs worked out such that I just reached the council and started whacking them when time ran out, so that was kinda stupid. Still, it seemed very obvious to me that Wealth is indeed sick for GF runs (who knew?), since the gold piles were lovely and huge. 17.3 million despite all the crap that happened.

Highest priority going forward is finding a teleport/GF amulet. I can still add a potential 80GF from the amulet slot, and GF is (surprise surprise) huge for effeciency. After that, it would be nice to find a classic rare belt (up to 119 GF) instead of the rather mediocre 80% rare I'm using. And also, FRW on the boots would be sweet, 1.07 War Traveler or 1.06 rare. Other than that, equipment is pretty good probably, I could always use better charms (especially SCs) though too.

Still plenty of improvement possible with a more perfect/smooth run, for sure. At least I think my playing has improved somewhat since yesterday, which is nice.

1. 15.561.020 (Wealth/Tele pre equipment improvement)
2. 16.438.369 (Enigma/50GF Craft)
3. 15.358.661 (Enigma/Highlord's)
4. 17.369.817 (Wealth/Tele)
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Random semi-unrelated question. Is there a gold limit in gomule?
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |GF on kill|GF on hork|
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
|Fabian       | TravBarb       | 17.369.817 |    5 |  16.275.416 |WW      |1657      |2557      |
|Fabian       | AxeGoldie      | 16.481.925 |   14 |  14.114.161 |WW      |1619      |2519      |
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW      |1458      |2358      |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry  |2351      |2244      |
|zaphodbrx   | Hrothgar | 11,132,719 |    1 |  11,132,719 |WW |          |          |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 |   12 |   8.199.068 |WW      |1461      |2225      |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |          |          |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |          |          |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |          |          |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |          |          |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |   10 |   5.669.806 |WW      |1062      |1836      |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |          |          |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|          |          |
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |          |          |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|          |          |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |          |          |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
Hmm... I got 11,132,719 in 29 min 42 sec.
Less than I thought. Mucked up a bit due to muling off gold ( more of a hassle than expected ).
Also.. must resist urge to keep picking up an identifying charms, flawless gems, zzz

I'll get back to this after reaching level 95, so that I can spend the gold there ( one fourth of the way there, man this is taking ages ).
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That's a lot more than I would have thought you'd get (I figured "about 400k" in "about a minute at most" would turn out to be gross overestimates since it seems quite high for the equipment you have), so nice job and color me surprised.

And noob, not as far as I know. Not something we need to worry about, in any case, I think.
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@ OneNoob.

If your 1.13c or later...

I have a couple of 37% GC's, and a couple of 9% SC's you can have if you like.

I plan on trying this out one day, both the GF barb (way, way in the future, too many builds as it is atm) and a LK GF'er but atm, am more interested in LK runs for runes.

I might also have a spare Gheeds I could lend you, I would have to check that out tho, as I have 4 MF'ers atm, and another on the way.

I also have a 81% Crown of Theives and a Dwarf Star from a giveaway that you can have if you like. They were given away by Bassen a couple of weeks ago, so I'm following the spirit of his Giveaway as I have Self Found of both for my Grail :D

I understand if you'd prefer to Self Find the gear tho, just let me know, and we'll organise a trade thread.

ReD
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Well done, both to Fabian and Zaphod! Focusing on just the gold piles and leaving everything else on the ground takes a great deal of restraint indeed.

I hadn't realized about the high GF prefixes on 1.06-ish gear. I do have some old Classic mules somewhere but they are mostly holding the no-level-requirement uniques and I probably sold back to Charsi some useful gear for GF-ing, but that was quite some time ago!
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I did a run this morning but I accidentally went over 30 minutes. I can guarantee that I didn't make any gold in the time I went over but I am not sure ho strict the rules are so I am mentioning it anyways. I am using silospen's save counter, and I am sure the extra time could easily be said to include me save and exiting and then alt tabbing, during which no actual gold was accumulated but I will let someone else make the call.

My merc died at about 20 minutes in and I tried to finish it out without him, which was a horrible idea, without meditation means my mana get depleted way to fast when getting hit. So if there is a 15+gold pile chest and a few monsters near by I cannot grab them all. I had to abort runs 4 times after merc died because my shield got broke. 1 was just a bad luck teleport into a pack of mana burns but the other 3 times I would have easily been able to stay had merc been around.

attempt 6 I did 36 runs (mainly because I had to abort so many times) lasted 30:04
My gold accumulate is 4,348,592.

redragon said:
@ OneNoob.

If your 1.13c or later...

I have a couple of 37% GC's, and a couple of 9% SC's you can have if you like.

I plan on trying this out one day, both the GF barb (way, way in the future, too many builds as it is atm) and a LK GF'er but atm, am more interested in LK runs for runes.

I might also have a spare Gheeds I could lend you, I would have to check that out tho, as I have 4 MF'ers atm, and another on the way.

I also have a 81% Crown of Theives and a Dwarf Star from a giveaway that you can have if you like. They were given away by Bassen a couple of weeks ago, so I'm following the spirit of his Giveaway as I have Self Found of both for my Grail :D

I understand if you'd prefer to Self Find the gear tho, just let me know, and we'll organise a trade thread.

ReD
I think I was going to PM you, but not sure if I actually remembered to, as I went to make a trade profile. If you want I could make you a rune offer or something for all of that. I find Mal runes left and right in LK. I can easily cube up to a vex with the Mals I have. As far as I am concerned if they are received via a fair trade they are as good as self found. Since you have to find something someone finds of equal value, right?
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Hey again, One Noob, I found the PM, I never really look for them I'm afraid, but I'll get back to you later tonight.

Edit: Put together a stash for you One Noob, but then had a look at your trade profile, and I didn't realise you were HC, while I play SC. :doh:

And as per the trade rules, SC to HC is not allowed.

Sorry about that, for some reason I thought you were SC. I am hopeless at HC, my playstyle is not geared towards it. :hammerhead:
 

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Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |GF on kill|GF on hork|
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
|Fabian       | TravBarb       | 19.402.902 |    ? |           - |WW      |1761      |2661      |
|Fabian       | AxeGoldie      | 16.481.925 |   14 |  14.114.161 |WW      |1619      |2519      |
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW      |1458      |2358      |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry  |2351      |2244      |
|zaphodbrx    | Hrothgar       | 11,132,719 |    1 |  11,132,719 |WW      |          |          |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 |   12 |   8.199.068 |WW      |1461      |2225      |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |          |          |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |          |          |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |          |          |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |          |          |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |   10 |   5.669.806 |WW      |1062      |1836      |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |          |          |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|          |          |
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |          |          |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|          |          |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |          |          |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
I got some very sweet equipment upgrades from WoRG a few days ago, and results have been predictably nice. I got a Teleport amulet with 79% GF and +3 warcries among other stuff, which bumped hork% from 51 to 53 (compared to using an amulet with no skills), which is kinda neat since horking is insane for GFbarbs (900% extra GF = larger gold piles, and a guaranteed 3 drops from each hork = more gold piles). I also got a nice +14str +114% GF classic rare belt, so my GF total has increased by a lot since the last reported runs. I'm back to using 1.07 War Traveler over the 111% rares I got, mostly because I like the FRW.

After I got that stuff I decided to do a respec, so I opened my handy WW Barb Excel spreadsheet and started figuring out which combination of str/dex gave the highest damage per second. After quite a bit of tinkering I figured out that you wanted as much Strength as possible, but also that AR from equipment was more valuable than +max damage type stuff. So, out went my worst Sharp of Greed type charms, and in went a few Steel of Greed. It did hurt a lot to cut a literally perfect LC:

Code:
Serrated Large Charm of Greed 
Large Charm 
Required Level: 42 
Fingerprint: 0x6697c0d8 
Item Level: 94 
Version: Expansion 
+12 to Maximum Damage 
22% Extra Gold from Monsters
..but it meant both an increase in DPS and an increase in GF, so it was tough to ignore. A few other nice ones also got the axe:

Code:
Sharp Grand Charm of Greed 
Grand Charm 
Required Level: 21 
Fingerprint: 0x2d64653a 
Item Level: 81 
Version: Expansion 1.10+ 
+10 to Maximum Damage 
+62 to Attack Rating 
38% Extra Gold from Monsters 


Shimmering Small Charm of Greed 
Small Charm 
Required Level: 25 
Fingerprint: 0x5eae07ec 
Item Level: 85 
Version: Expansion 1.10+ 
All Resistances +5 
10% Extra Gold from Monsters 


Sharp Large Charm of Greed 
Large Charm 
Required Level: 21 
Fingerprint: 0x413f3728 
Item Level: ** 
Version: Expansion 1.10+ 
+5 to Maximum Damage 
+25 to Attack Rating 
22% Extra Gold from Monsters


Sharp Grand Charm of Greed 
Grand Charm 
Required Level: 21 
Fingerprint: 0x54960fa4 
Item Level: 85 
Version: Expansion 1.10+ 
+9 to Maximum Damage 
+67 to Attack Rating 
39% Extra Gold from Monsters
Oh well. End result is I now get 618 GF from my charms, which is 2 below the maximum possible. A 10/64/39 and a 123/39 are bringing the numbers down :)



Yesterday I did two runs before the respec, and two runs after the respec. Unfortunately I only saved the results in a text file, which I didn't save when going to bed, but it was mostly in the 17-18.3M range. 18.3xx was definitely a new record anyway, I remember that much. Overall I wasn't super happy with these runs, I think they all included one or two deaths (the record run had one death and one aborted run), which is why I wasn't too bothered with updating the thread. I can do better.

Well, today I did one run, and I didn't die. It didn't go great (two runs where barely any gold piles dropped, below 200k each time), but at this point I'm not sure what I can do except hoping to get lucky. There's quite a bit of variance when hoping to get a perfect 30 minute block. This character gets a 45-50 second run which fills the inventory (910k) maybe 1/25 times, so the upper ceiling is maybe ~32M or so :) More realistically, I'd like to break the 20M barrier, which I think can definitely happen with some luck. Today I got 18.4M gold in one try, I'll keep trying for a while. The only equipment upgrade I think I might do at this point is Cham'ing my CoT, my guess is it would probably be worth it, but it's tough to test out. Plus losing GF sucks anyway, so I dunno.

Hopefully next time I'll have a better result to report.

1. 18.450.264

Edit: Did another run. Went really really well overall, up until the ~27 minute mark when I died and then had to abort another run. With a decent ending, this would have been pretty hard to beat probably. That said, I think the character is so good now that this kind of result might be closer to average than I'm used to at the moment.

2. 19.402.902
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

@OneNoob: the 30 minute window is pretty strict- not one GP should be gathered after the timer goes off. Saving, exiting, counting, muling is OK but no more gold or gold-generating activities (ie selling items to vendor.)

@Fabian: wow, that is an impressive result! You've continued to amaze with better optimization and results. I'm pretty sure that the variance is enough that you can reach 20 million with some luck on not dying and not getting aborts. And it is interesting that the variance is so significant. The 30 minute block is a big constraint. I wanted it to be long enough so that it was in effect averaging out a decent number of runs, but not so long that it was too long of an effort to think about trying multiple times. It seems like with runs times under a minute, some of the variance comes from whether or not you can squeeze an additional run in.
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Definitely, sometimes it works out such that I finish the last run at 29:30ish, and it's like "yup guess I'm done" and it kinda sucks. This was the case in the record run earlier, basically I died, aborted, did a run and then had like 30 seconds to spare, so I got maybe 500k in the last 3½ minutes (nice sub 5M for the entire block pace!) or something which is kinda awful with how well it was going up until then.

Just did a run which didn't have any deaths but went really terribly horribly. Still 17.8M. Nice character this. 20M is most definitely happening, don't know what to reasonably shoot for though. 21 should be reasonable but probably not much past that? dunno really. Beating Jaed by 50% (20.6) would be kinda cool I guess.
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Well I finally got to level 95, so it was time to give this a serious try.

One big problem I found was the clash between wanting to maximize gold find and picking up the other stuff. At first I changed out my charms and filled EVERY slot with GF charms, even dumping the tp and identify tomes. On the very first run, I found a rainbow facet jewel..

Hm let's see. No place to pick up the jewel. No identify tome to id it. Let's tp back to town and get that stuff. Oops.. no TP tome. Run back to the waypoint. Wow, that was a disaster. On the plus side, it turned out to be a 5/5 cold facet :cloud9:

I started over, and this time I left 2x3 space empty, plus carrying an identify tome. An ideal build would not even pick up high runes I suppose, only gold ( which I am not going to do :) ). Wonder how other people dealt with the problem?

Result: 12,822,317 gold. A marginal improvement over the previous ( merc died a bit, so a bad run ), but I'm not going to do it again. Normally speaking I find this a relaxing character- I didn't build it for a competition, after all. Do 4-5 runs, then spend masses of money gambling , then go back, maybe bit of crafting along the way. I get paranoid about leaving items on the ground. Every GC I don't ID could be a skiller of life. Every blue monarch could be a potential jmod. And so on. And I don't think I have a chance of beating Fabian either :jig: . Did get a Gul rune out of it too ( and the 5/5 facet ) , which was nice.

Charms are probably the major issue. For a build like this, I think the best would be prefix steel, or sharp/fine and suffix 'of greed' . But looking through my stash I could find almost no such charms. Used 'bronze of greed's. Dismal. Some more equipment switches, got a new 158 gheeds and a new wealth in a sacred armor, that was mostly because I could. I always put massive amounts of extra str on barbs, after getting to 2700-2800 hp.

Fabian: I wonder how much of an issue AR is. Grief does have ITD after all.

Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |GF on kill|GF on hork|
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
|Fabian       | TravBarb       | 19.402.902 |    ? |           - |WW      |1761      |2661      |
|Fabian       | AxeGoldie      | 16.481.925 |   14 |  14.114.161 |WW      |1619      |2519      |
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW      |1458      |2358      |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry  |2351      |2244      |
|zaphodbrx    | Hrothgar       | 12,822,317 |    2 |           - |WW      |          |          |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 |   12 |   8.199.068 |WW      |1461      |2225      |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |          |          |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |          |          |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |          |          |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |          |          |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |   10 |   5.669.806 |WW      |1062      |1836      |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |          |          |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|          |          |
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |          |          |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|          |          |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |          |          |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

zaphodbrx said:
Hm let's see. No place to pick up the jewel. No identify tome to id it. Let's tp back to town and get that stuff. Oops.. no TP tome. Run back to the waypoint. Wow, that was a disaster. On the plus side, it turned out to be a 5/5 cold facet :cloud9:
If you open inventory and pick up the item so that it's on the cursor and then exit the game it will still be on the cursor when you open the next game. I.e. you could have finished your run, picked up the jewel, started a new game and you would have the jewel in town.
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Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |GF on kill|GF on hork|
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
|Fabian       | TravBarb       | 19.445.008 |    ? |           - |WW      |1761      |2661      |
|Fabian       | AxeGoldie      | 16.481.925 |   14 |  14.114.161 |WW      |1619      |2519      |
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW      |1458      |2358      |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry  |2351      |2244      |
|zaphodbrx    | Hrothgar       | 12,822,317 |    2 |           - |WW      |          |          |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 |   12 |   8.199.068 |WW      |1461      |2225      |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |          |          |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |          |          |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |          |          |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |          |          |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |   10 |   5.669.806 |WW      |1062      |1836      |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |          |          |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|          |          |
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |          |          |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|          |          |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |          |          |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
I've been back in GF gear in the last couple days, trying to beat my record after leveling to 93 (from 91). I've grown increasingly frustrated, realizing that my record run was pretty damn lucky and that a lot of things went right. After a few attempts where I was having problems I respecced into 30 more points in Vitality and 30 more points in Dexterity, I feel slightly safer overall I guess, which has led to slightly smoother runs.

After lots of bad/failed/aborted attempts, I finally got a block of runs today where gold piles dropped, and were big. I died once ~10 minutes in, and I died in the last minute, but still just barely got a new record.

I don't know what to do, strategy/tactics wise, to improve this. At this point I can't think of anything except getting lucky as hell. Despite the new record, I still had a few really bad runs, as well as the 2 deaths, so I know a run where everything goes right still has lots of potential. I want to reach the 20M mark, and if I do I'll probably be happy with that result until someone beats it.

Still the same GF%/equipment.

1. 19.445.008
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Fabian said:
I don't know what to do, strategy/tactics wise, to improve this. At this point I can't think of anything except getting lucky as hell.
I'd say that sounds like a plan!

Fabian said:
I want to reach the 20M mark, and if I do I'll probably be happy with that result until someone beats it.
Wait. What? We have to put effort in your running efforts? Somehow that doesn't sound right. :scratchchin:

All kidding aside, that's quite a nice pile of gold you got there. If i didn't have so many other projects i might give this another go, but i doubt i'll get to that any time soon.
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Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |GF on kill|GF on hork|
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
|Fabian       | TravBarb       | 20.551.565 |    ? |           - |WW      |1761      |2661      |
|Fabian       | AxeGoldie      | 16.481.925 |   14 |  14.114.161 |WW      |1619      |2519      |
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW      |1458      |2358      |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry  |2351      |2244      |
|zaphodbrx    | Hrothgar       | 12,822,317 |    2 |           - |WW      |          |          |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 |   12 |   8.199.068 |WW      |1461      |2225      |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |          |          |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |          |          |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |          |          |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |          |          |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |   10 |   5.669.806 |WW      |1062      |1836      |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |          |          |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|          |          |
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |          |          |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|          |          |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |          |          |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
Boom. No deaths, no aborted runs. Might even have been no merc deaths.

1. 20.551.565
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

BOOM!!
Congrats :)
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gratz fabian! very cool achievement and you have put some serious effort into it :)
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Thanks guys, I'm having a celebratory drink (or two) :) Probably not touching this character again for a while now, except for a write-up/video maybe.
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Wow, well done! That is not only great design and optimization, but great execution as well!
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Possibly as my final post in this thread, I made a video of my (current) tournament leader:


[youtube]qKwqqvXHDJM[/youtube]

He's level 93 and runs Hell Travincal on p3. These runs are nothing special, if anything they're kinda sloppily played but yielded decent gold piles anyway.

I usually don't kill Ismail when he spawns PI, but when he stands around in the middle of gold piles, making it difficult to pick them up, I often do. Or, you know, when I want to stand around for a minute to show off equipment after the run.

If you watch in HD you can probably read the text on equipment and such.

Summary:

Weapons: Dual 1.07 eth Grief BA (394/383 rolls) (0)
Switch: Dual LemLemLemLemLemLem eth Crystal Sword (900)
Armor: Wealth Archon Plate (300)
Helm: Crown of Thieves with Lem (150)
Amulet: 1.07 Craft +3Warcries/79GF/Tele/22life/@7/6LL/1FRW (79)
Belt: 1.06 Rare 14str/23mana/29LR/21FR/114GF (114)
Rings: Dual Dwarf Star (200)
Gloves: Chance Guards (200)
Boots: 1.07 War Traveler (100)

Grand Charms 160% Gheed's, 10/72/40, 10/58/40, 9/69/40, 8/74/40, 7/56/40, 10/64/39, 131/40, 127/40, 123/39 (518)
Small Charms 6/10, 4/10, 2/16/10, 2/15/10, 2/14/10, 2/11/10, 33/10, 33/10, 30/10, 100poisondmg/10 (100)

Total 1761 GF when killing, 2661 GF when horking.

Find Item 20 (24) (53%)
Battle Orders 20 (24)
Axe Mastery 20 (21)
Whirlwind 20 (21)
Battle Command, Berserk, Natural Resistance 1
Rest in Increased Speed

Merc wears a Shael'd Reaper's and unsocketed Guardian Angel/Kira's Guardian because I'm lazy.

Thanks for reading.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Fabian said:
Merc wears unsocketed Guardian Angel/Kira's Guardian because I'm lazy.
I cant believe this. After so much effort to get all the possible gold find it would be such little work to clash 2 lems into this, or you ran out of Lem runes? haha

Anyway, thanks for sharing, now I know how to beat :D
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^inorite?

When I read that I laughed out loud. Crazy :p
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Guys, how many kills do you think the merc gets, anyway? With a lvl93 whirler weilding dual high-end griefs, I'd be surprised if he actually gets a chance to kill anything in a given run....and no matter how much GF you pack on him, it won't help an iota with horking (which is where the largest part of the gold comes from, usually...)

Great results, Fabian!! Glad I was able to help in some small way...

WoRG
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W/o looking at breakpoints i would guess ias/dmg may be a good option for the slot for (barely) faster decrep proc.
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Or Ral runes, to keep merc fres maxed under conviction
I am really surprised he is not using full rejuv though.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

zaphodbrx said:
Or Ral runes, to keep merc fres maxed under conviction
I am really surprised he is not using full rejuv though.
Yes, we should stop congratulating him and start complaining about his weirdness ;)
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

pharphis, damage is not a good choice, as the cold damage from the Reaper's means corpses shatter if the merc does too much work. You actively want to avoid him getting too much damage in; it's for this reason a high LL/low ED/non-eth Reaper's is the best weapon choice for a Travbarb's merc. More IAS is also a double-edged sword as it raises DPS, which is bad, but also raises the chance of an immediate decrep, which is good. Lem runes or Um runes or FR jewels would certainly not do any harm.

After reading the initial comments yesterday, I realized it looked more sloppy than I was happy with, so I punched holes in the GA/Kira's and put Lem runes in them. It meant rerolling the map, but that's fine as I wasn't super happy with it anyway. The new map seems better, although it's a lot easier to miss gold piles. Anyway I'll try to get another good run in, it's easier said than done at this point but we'll see.
 

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Re: Piles of Money Tourney

im not sure how important the cbf at kira's is for your merc, but I think at lvl 93, a good rolled CoA should bring your merc to [email protected], leaving 2 spots open for Lem runes and offcourse also bringing some DR% and additional def. He would offcourse become weaker vs conviction aura.

crown of thives is another great helmet. not only giving life leech and gold find, but also fire resist and 50 HP and massive def when upped.
crown of thieves+guardian angel seems the most logic choice to me as merc for gold find barb. If you also need other resistances as fire, then a scintilating jewel of avarice would do the job or rare jewel with avarice and resistance of need/other mods.
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I didn't realize that if they're getting the kills then it causes the shattering. I always assumed it was if the monster is chilled then they have a chance of shattering. Is it true that if you do cold damage you increase the chance of them shattering (assuming they're constantly already chilled)?
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Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |GF on kill|GF on hork|
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
|Fabian       | TravBarb       | 21.090.143 |    ? |           - |WW      |1761      |2661      |
|Fabian       | AxeGoldie      | 16.481.925 |   14 |  14.114.161 |WW      |1619      |2519      |
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW      |1458      |2358      |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry  |2351      |2244      |
|zaphodbrx    | Hrothgar       | 12,822,317 |    2 |           - |WW      |          |          |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 |   12 |   8.199.068 |WW      |1461      |2225      |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |          |          |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |          |          |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |          |          |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |          |          |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |   10 |   5.669.806 |WW      |1062      |1836      |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |          |          |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|          |          |
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |          |          |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|          |          |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |          |          |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
I put a Lem in the Reaper's and the Guardian Angel, and a plain Jewel of Fervor in the Kira's to keep the IAS breakpoint. With the new map I rolled, I could tell that I could get a better result if everything went right. I got a pretty great run today, unfortunately it included a death with ~4 minutes left to slightly ruin it, and the merc died twice more. Overall, the fights were fast (thanks to the map), and plenty of big gold piles dropped. A shame with the death, kinda makes me want to keep going, but this went very well overall.

1. 21.090.143
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Stop impressing us!

congrats :)
You can do 23mil ;)
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Code:
| forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |GF on kill|GF on hork|
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
|Fabian       | TravBarb       | 21.571.104 |    ? |           - |WW      |1761      |2661      |
|Fabian       | AxeGoldie      | 16.481.925 |   14 |  14.114.161 |WW      |1619      |2519      |
|Fabian       | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW      |1458      |2358      |
|Jaedhann     | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry  |2351      |2244      |
|zaphodbrx    | Hrothgar       | 12,822,317 |    2 |           - |WW      |          |          |
|maareek      | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 |   12 |   8.199.068 |WW      |1461      |2225      |
|Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |          |          |
|dune         | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry  |          |          |
|Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |          |          |
|zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |          |          |
|Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |          |          |
|poops        | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |   10 |   5.669.806 |WW      |1062      |1836      |
|AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap    |          |          |
|LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|          |          |
|purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |          |          |
|skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|          |          |
|SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |          |          |
|maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |          |          |
|-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
I've been trying the last couple days. A lot. I've collected something like 400M since I recorded the video I posted earlier, and that includes dropping at least 50M on the ground rather than going to GoMule and muling off because I'd have to write down a new "current amount" number in my text file, which is lame.

Yesterday I finished 4 runs (and had 6 billion aborted attempts), which were in the 19-20.2 range or so. Today, I only had to go 45 minutes before I was done with a new record, though a very small improvement. The run included no deaths, no mercdeaths, and the runs were fast and smooth overall. I only had average luck though, at best. One run in particular was awesome with one (1) gold pile dropping, netting a cool 86k on the run. I guess that was still the difference between breaking my old record and not breaking my old record huh?

So now I have a record with no deaths and with smooth playing. Do I try again to get something like that but with good luck? Stay tuned I guess.

1. 21.147.952


Edit:

I've played more or less all night, and I feel like I've improved my playing slightly. It's been a super frustrating night; everything needs to go well during a run now if I want to beat the record. I got a number of runs in which started out pretty well and then luck kinda ran out and the end result was between 19 and 20 million. Then a kinda hilarious run happened where I got the most ridiculous start ever. Seriously, if this tournament was 15 minutes instead of 30, that run would never have been beaten, it was ridiculous. Then in the last 10 minutes, results got noticeably worse and I was pretty disappointed with the 20 million result. 5 minutes into my next attempt, I realized I had somehow accidentally dropped my Wealth armor on the ground, which explained a) my poor ending to the previous run and b) why my Barb had been running around looking semi naked which I thought was weird but some kind of display bug or something. Frustrating.

I made a new Wealth and eventually got a new good run going. It again started out extremely well, and despite the ending being pretty mediocre, including one super frustrating death, I broke the record by a pretty good margin. I'm back to where I was before, with a result I consider very good, but with a death in there.. Frustrating.

2. 19.952.246
3. 19.035.099
4. 19.737.563
5. 20.042.745 (Wealth dropped in the middle of run, sickest beginning ever)
6. 21.571.104
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Not even close to Fab's achievements, but after doing some runs with my old goldfinder i got my largest single goldpile so far. A shame it's not a little bigger so it would add another digit.
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FWIW I'm ~91% sure my biggest pile has been 112.xxx something. Don't think I've seen a 113 pile yet, though it seems very possible.
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How do you get to an accuracy of 91%? :scratchhead: I know my char could break the 100.000. He still has room for 1 gc and 2 sc with MF (easier to pick gems up). Leaving out tome of tp and cube would free up another 6 slots. Whether that would be enough to get to 113 i don't know.
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Hey guys,

I'm back at it, trying to beat my old record. If you want to follow along, I'll be streaming my attempts here for a while tonight:

www.twitch.tv/FabianSPF

Feel free to stop by and say hi and root for me :) Hopefully I'll have a nice score to report soonish, and some video of it as well. It's really tough to beat though, so we'll see.
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GTG to the lab, so only catching a glimpse. Regardless, good luck!

Is there a comment option on there that wasn't obvious to me?
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You can probably only chat if you're registered I guess? Not sure, but that sounds reasonable.
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Only if you're registered, I typed out a good luck message and then realised. *slaps self*

Good luck with it, seems like an interesting tournament. No idea how I've managed to never see it...
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Very interesting tournament.
13834109 gold here as best result so far.
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Whatching this makes me realize what a bad player I am :p

Very cool, best of luck!
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The "viewers" list was pretty much empty, but I guess that's because most of you aren't registered, and I had at least a couple of viewers. Thanks for tuning in, next time results will be better hopefully, and I might talk a bit which I guess might make it less boring to watch, I don't know. Any comments or feedback as far as the stream is concerned? It was my first time streaming to a wider audience than the IRC crew, so I'm sure improvements are possible :)

Tournament wise, I had a good run going towards the end, but I jinxed it and it turned to crap. I also had Ohm and Ber drop on stream like 5 minutes apart which was kinda amusing.
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I couldn't watch it because it stutters, but obviously that is my connection not your stream. Quite annoying actually, I was quite keen to tune in. My D2 mindset has completely changed, and these little quirky things suddenly seem really interesting. The problem with living with your parents is that you don't get to choose the internet provider...
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Fabian said:
The "viewers" list was pretty much empty, but I guess that's because most of you aren't registered, and I had at least a couple of viewers. Thanks for tuning in, next time results will be better hopefully, and I might talk a bit which I guess might make it less boring to watch, I don't know. Any comments or feedback as far as the stream is concerned? It was my first time streaming to a wider audience than the IRC crew, so I'm sure improvements are possible :)

Tournament wise, I had a good run going towards the end, but I jinxed it and it turned to crap. I also had Ohm and Ber drop on stream like 5 minutes apart which was kinda amusing.
I watched about half of one of your tries and the screen turned black. No idea what caused it.

A bit of commenting would definitely be cool. Would also make it more fun to register and chat while you're doing it.

Also, turn that music volume up! BA-BA-BA-BABABARAN :whistling:
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Screen was black the second time I tried too, the only time (annoyingly) when my connection was decent...
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Read this thread the last time it cycled past. Wish I'd have been paying attention enough to watch you play.
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Sup guys,

Day 2 of attempts beginning in a few minutes, come say hi! Now with 100% more commentary!
 

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Here is the link: www.twitch.tv/FabianSPF

*Stream sponsored by AA*
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Was pretty close to breaking my record on the very first attempt heh, that would have been amusing. Oh well, back on the horse now. Come chat with me!
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You weren't just talking to yourself, I was watching.

Edit: Very nice. Do you have any idea how many runs you've done over the course of this thing? Was just curious.
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That's good to know crawlingdeadman, you got to watch the really uninspired final attempt which was pretty much never a good run though, sorry about that :) I have no idea how many runs I've done in total over the years in this tourney. A lot.

It was actually a lot of fun, I had lots of people stop by and say hi which made it a fun experience even though it's tough to read chat and play Piles of Money at the same time. As mentioned two posts above, I got a very good run going pretty much immediately tonight, but I ended up 300k short of the record. Still the second best run of all time though, not too bad.

I got a new pair of boots (thanks scrcrw!) with an extra 10 FRW and 9% GF compared to the ones I was using previously, so clearly I should get a new record any day now :)

1. 21.252.649
2. 19.817.838

I think the mic volume is slightly too low compared to the background music, all blame for this goes to nulio who told me to raise the music volume ;)
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Code:
| forum name| character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build  |GF kill|GF hork|
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
|Fabian     | TravBarb       | 21.669.331 |    ? |           - |WW     |1771   |2671   |
|Fabian     | AxeGoldie      | 16.481.925 |   14 |  14.114.161 |WW     |1619   |2519   |
|Fabian     | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW     |1458   |2358   |
|Jaedhann   | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry |2351   |2244   |
|zaphodbrx  | Hrothgar       | 12,822,317 |    2 |           - |WW     |       |       |
|maareek    | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 |   12 |   8.199.068 |WW     |1461   |2225   |
|Corrupted  | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW     |       |       |
|dune       | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry |       |       |
|Fabian     | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW     |       |       |
|Fabian     | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry |       |       |
|poops      | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |   10 |   5.669.806 |WW     |1062   |1836   |
|AJK        | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy |       |       |
|Cyrax      | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap   |       |       |
|LHTB       | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy |       |       |
|skiff      | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Sorc   |       |       |
|purplelocus| Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap   |       |       |
|skiff      | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapsin|       |       |
|SnickerSnac| Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry |       |       |
|maxicek    | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy |       |       |
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
Hey guys, more record attempts happening starting in a few minutes at www.twitch.tv/FabianSPF

Come root for me!

Edit: I would say it went pretty well overall tonight. I've been trying out a different amulet, which lacks +skills (2% less hork) but has Mana Leech. The runs are sort of smoother now, but I also might need some extra life I think (the old amulet had some life and resists and LL and stuff which this current amulet lacks), so I might respec slightly for future attempts.

I broke my record, I'll see if I can make it into a highlight and post it here later. I had a lot of big gold piles and a lot of good runs with very few bad runs.. and a death halfway through. I'll keep trying until I have a record with no deaths. Still happy with tonight's results.

1. 21.669.331
2. 20.411.263

Edit: Also had Sur, Lo and Sur drop on stream tonight, which makes 5 high runes on stream in a pretty short period of time. lolrunedropodds

Edit: Made the record run a highlight and edited in the link to it. Unfortunately the video gets corrupted about 22 minutes into the run, but up until then you can see exactly what you want to happen every single attempt. Except for that death.. :( I don't know if twitch highlight videos stay up forever, so this link might die in the future. If I ever get a run I'm really happy with to the point where I stop trying to improve, I'll see if I can get it on youtube instead. For now this will do.
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Shame i missed it, but nice going Fab 👍. I've been wanting to do some more of this myself. So far lack of time/other projects have prevented that.

Not that i expect to break your record, but it would be nice to move up in the table. Seems like i better re-equip my ww barb rather then trying to improve the leaper.
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You can now watch it anyway through the magic of video :) (link). Well, only the first 22 minutes or so are watchable, I don't know why the end has been corrupted like that. Obviously it was fine during the actual playing, so I'm guessing it's due to the streaming software? I've had issues with my stream looking stupid before apparently, after I've been streaming for an hour or two. Hopefully I can figure out what causes this and how to fix it, kinda defeats the purpose of streaming otherwise.

Probably doing more attempts tonight. You should all Follow me, that way you get an email notification when I go online to play. Yay!
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Fabian you're doing a great job on these runs. I watched the last one and learned a lot. Even tweaked my own goldfinder based on your performance. Keep it up!
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Grats on the runes! I tried to watch the video, but it was running really slow for me. What player setting are you using, please?
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Code:
| forum name| character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build  |GF kill|GF hork|
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
|Fabian     | TravBarb       | 21.962.146 |    ? |           - |WW     |1770   |2670   |
|Fabian     | AxeGoldie      | 16.481.925 |   14 |  14.114.161 |WW     |1619   |2519   |
|Fabian     | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW     |1458   |2358   |
|Jaedhann   | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry |2351   |2244   |
|zaphodbrx  | Hrothgar       | 12,822,317 |    2 |           - |WW     |       |       |
|maareek    | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 |   12 |   8.199.068 |WW     |1461   |2225   |
|Corrupted  | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW     |       |       |
|dune       | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry |       |       |
|Fabian     | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW     |       |       |
|Fabian     | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry |       |       |
|poops      | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |   10 |   5.669.806 |WW     |1062   |1836   |
|AJK        | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy |       |       |
|Cyrax      | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap   |       |       |
|LHTB       | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy |       |       |
|skiff      | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Sorc   |       |       |
|purplelocus| Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap   |       |       |
|skiff      | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapsin|       |       |
|SnickerSnac| Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry |       |       |
|maxicek    | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy |       |       |
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
Just crushed (relatively speaking) my record on the first try of the night, lol. This despite leaving a whole bunch of gold on the ground on two separate occasions. Will keep trying to improve for a bit, stop by if you want www.twitch.tv/FabianSPF

More detail and updated table etc coming later.

Edit: So I decided to try doing p1 runs tonight. The idea being simple of course, go super fast and hope to get lucky with lots of horked gold piles. The more runs you have time for, the more opportunities you get to be lucky with lots of horked gold piles. Successfully horking is very very good, since you get 3 drops every time it happens, and since those gold piles are huge because of the extra 900% on switch. So my thinking was that even though I lose out on a lot of gold from their regular drops, if I just go all out on speed and hork% on p1, the lucky runs should still be very comparable to the p3 runs in terms of gold, while always being pretty significantly faster.

Well, as it turns out that thinking is pretty much true. When playing on p1, you have to accept a fair amount of like 3-400k runs, but the runs are way way faster, and it seems like it's overall just has more potential for a great 30 minute block. I tried one run like that yesterday with the ML amulet, then today I switched to the skills amulet (for the extra 2 hork%) and didn't miss the mana leech very much since the fights are generally shorter and safer on p1. Definitely happy with the setup and strats, now it's just a matter of getting really good luck for 30 minutes.

The record run tonight was really sweet for the most part, but not being used to the amounts of gold I'd typically have, I got unlucky on two occassions when I decided to do an extra run before going to GoMule, with a full stash and like 200k in my inventory. Well, naturally, both those times I got insane runs and had to leave a lot of gold on the ground. On my last attempt of the night, things felt pretty decent but not spectacular, then the ending was kinda bad, most notably when getting only ~600k total on the last two runs. Being roughly 150k short of the record, clearly that could easily have been a new record too, and I expect I'll be able to break 22M fairly soon. Stay tuned.

1. 21.962.146
2. 20.520.368
3. 21.814.566

Edit:

4. 21.026.632
5. 21.612.225
6. 20.645.677

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Reporting new record.

14,590,663

Kind of unlucky, got two absolutely lol drops with 100k and 120k in a row + merc death, that crippled me, but i believe soon 15m will be reached.
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Nice Gripphon. You should put your name in the table imo.

I've been trying a lot the last couple days, banging my head into a wall repeatedly for hours on end, or something. I've completed maybe 10 attempts, ranging from low 20M to high 21M (including a death). I'm happy to report though that I finally have a super super good result to report, which I think is never getting beaten! I present...

1. 12.077.955 !!!

This is the 15 minute Piles of Money thread right?

But yeah, that's what I had when visiting GoMule with ~15:10 left on the clock on my latest attempt (which I know since I record my attempts). Pretttty good beginning. Then, of freaking course, I died to some stupid unnecessary crap. Rage rage rage. I kept playing though since I felt the beginning was so insane, and it kept going decently well for the most part. Consulting the video, I can see that with 85 seconds left (which is a perfect time to do two more runs with no time wasted), I had collected

1. 21.385.241

Obviously on pace to break the record, even with that death, if the last two runs aren't complete garbage.

aaaaaand then I clicked Nightmare

rage rage rage
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Oh no!

Did you react fast enough to close the instance?

Well, great run ruined, but maybe you should never click? :p
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Adding myself to table, also I count runs only after upgraded equipment. Older version of my goldfinder had 2.3 million less gold average.

Code:
| forum name| character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build  |GF kill|GF hork|
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
|Fabian     | TravBarb       | 21.962.146 |    ? |           - |WW     |1770   |2670   |
|Fabian     | AxeGoldie      | 16.481.925 |   14 |  14.114.161 |WW     |1619   |2519   |
|Gripphon   | Midas          | 15.176.224 |    3 |  14.713.981 |WW     |1609   |2509   |
|Fabian     | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW     |1458   |2358   |
|Jaedhann   | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry |2351   |2244   |
|zaphodbrx  | Hrothgar       | 12,822,317 |    2 |           - |WW     |       |       |
|maareek    | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 |   12 |   8.199.068 |WW     |1461   |2225   |
|Corrupted  | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW     |       |       |
|dune       | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry |       |       |
|Fabian     | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW     |       |       |
|Fabian     | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry |       |       |
|poops      | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |   10 |   5.669.806 |WW     |1062   |1836   |
|AJK        | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy |       |       |
|Cyrax      | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap   |       |       |
|LHTB       | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy |       |       |
|skiff      | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Sorc   |       |       |
|purplelocus| Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap   |       |       |
|skiff      | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapsin|       |       |
|SnickerSnac| Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry |       |       |
|maxicek    | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy |       |       |
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
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Code:
| forum name| character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build  |GF kill|GF hork|
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
|Fabian     | TravBarb       | 22.676.500 |    ? |           - |WW     |1770   |2670   |
|Fabian     | AxeGoldie      | 16.481.925 |   14 |  14.114.161 |WW     |1619   |2519   |
|Gripphon   | Midas          | 15.176.224 |    3 |  14.713.981 |WW     |1609   |2509   |
|Fabian     | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW     |1458   |2358   |
|Jaedhann   | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry |2351   |2244   |
|zaphodbrx  | Hrothgar       | 12,822,317 |    2 |           - |WW     |       |       |
|maareek    | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 |   12 |   8.199.068 |WW     |1461   |2225   |
|Corrupted  | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW     |       |       |
|dune       | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry |       |       |
|Fabian     | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW     |       |       |
|Fabian     | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry |       |       |
|poops      | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |   10 |   5.669.806 |WW     |1062   |1836   |
|AJK        | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy |       |       |
|Cyrax      | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap   |       |       |
|LHTB       | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy |       |       |
|skiff      | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Sorc   |       |       |
|purplelocus| Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap   |       |       |
|skiff      | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapsin|       |       |
|SnickerSnac| Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry |       |       |
|maxicek    | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy |       |       |
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
Got it!

I'm done with this tournament for a long time, possibly forever unless I find significant equipment improvements. I'm not beating this run with my current equipment without huge amounts of luck. It wasn't perfect by any means, I had a few really bad runs and the mercenary died once and I was in danger of dying once or twice (wasting some time), but overall this was just very good. In fact, looking at the video, I see that with 15:10 left, I had collected 12.237.994 gold, barely beating the 15 minute run I said I'd never beat one post up, heh.

Super pleased. I'll get the full video up on youtube today hopefully.

1. 22.676.500
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Congrats!
I'm excited for the vid, since I wasn't able to see most of your streams.

Do you have any other immediate plans for D2?
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I'm done for now. Hopefully I can improve his equipment and reach for a higher score at some later time, but this result is very very good with my current equipment, and very hard to beat. Here's my record run, 22.676.500:

[youtube]DEIahR90xsQ[/youtube]

I'm using a level 93 Barb with the following equipment:

Armor: Wealth Archon Plate (300)
Weapons: Dual 1.07 eth Grief Berserker Axe (36/394, 40/383) (0)
Switch: Dual LemLemLemLemLemLem eth Crystal Sword (900)
Helm: 12/100 Crown of Thieves with Lem (150)
Amulet: 1.07 Craft (3 warcries/79GF/Teleport Charges/6LL/22life/@7/1FRW) (79)
Rings: Dual Dwarf Star (200)
Gloves: Chance Guards (200)
Belt: 1.06 Rare (114GF/14str/29LR/21FR/23mana) (114)
Boots: 1.06 Rare (109GF/30FRW/45LR/15FR/1life) (109)

Mercenary: Shael'd Reaper's, Lem'd Guardian Angel, Fervor'd Kira's Guardian

Charms (618):

Code:
160% Gheed's
10/72/40
10/58/40
9/69/40
8/74/40
7/56/40
131/40
127/40
10/64/39
123/39
6/10
6/10
5/10
4/10
3/20/10
3/16/10
2/16/10
2/15/10
2/14/10
2/11/10
Total GF: 300+150+79+200+200+114+109+618 = 1770 on kill, and another 900 (2670) on hork.
Skills are 20 Battle Orders 20 Find Item 20 Axe Mastery 20 Whirlwind 1 Battle Command 1 Natural Resistance 1 Berserk 10 Prereqs 11 Increased Speed
slvl 24 Find Item (after BC), 52% hork

The "easy" improvements, equipment wise, would be to find classic rare boots and belts with more GF. I'm hoping those who play pre 1.07 will keep looking for 119 GF rares for me :) Other than that, the only big improvement would be to find a rare circlet with 5-6 perfect mods (barb skills/FCR/GF/2os/LL/ML/str/dex/life/AR/tele charges/etc). I'm doubtful one of these exist in the entire history of the SPF, but it's at least possible. If you have something you think might compare to the Crown of Thieves I'm using, please do send me a PM :)

As far as improving this result goes, it really does mostly come down to "get lucky". You can gain a few seconds here and there (not to mention the possibility of losing lots of time anywhere; this character isn't exactly built for safety), possibly adding up to enough time for one more run (in this 30 minute block, I do 40 runs), but if those 40ish runs aren't way above par when it comes to amount of gold piles and size of gold piles, you're not getting anywhere close to the record amount anyway.

Thanks for reading and for following along for years as I've tried to improve my record <3
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

notbad.flv

You executed all perfectly.

Now gamble all that gold, 1 month project. :crazyeyes:
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Really liking the 1.06/1.07 crafts. 👍

Btw are belt, boots (and possibly other items) with that high GF also available in 1.07 or is that only 1.06 material?
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

gongrats from new record. you really have nice equipments :) eventhough i have better grief 34/400 :p sad that gamble screen doesn't have automaticly circlets. gamble away that amount of gold is going to take forever.
 

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Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Code:
| forum name| character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build  |GF kill|GF hork|
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
|Fabian     | TravBarb       | 23.694.853 |    ? |           - |WW     |1770   |2670   |
|Fabian     | AxeGoldie      | 16.481.925 |   14 |  14.114.161 |WW     |1619   |2519   |
|Gripphon   | Midas          | 15.176.224 |    3 |  14.713.981 |WW     |1609   |2509   |
|Fabian     | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW     |1458   |2358   |
|Jaedhann   | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry |2351   |2244   |
|zaphodbrx  | Hrothgar       | 12,822,317 |    2 |           - |WW     |       |       |
|maareek    | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 |   12 |   8.199.068 |WW     |1461   |2225   |
|Corrupted  | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW     |       |       |
|dune       | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry |       |       |
|Fabian     | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW     |       |       |
|Fabian     | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry |       |       |
|poops      | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |   10 |   5.669.806 |WW     |1062   |1836   |
|AJK        | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy |       |       |
|Cyrax      | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap   |       |       |
|LHTB       | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy |       |       |
|skiff      | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Sorc   |       |       |
|purplelocus| Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap   |       |       |
|skiff      | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapsin|       |       |
|SnickerSnac| Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry |       |       |
|maxicek    | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy |       |       |
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
Hadn't opened D2 since I got the 22.6M last week, cause, you know, this game is boring when you don't have goals. Tonight I felt like playing though, so I respecced my level 95 Barb and put all GF equipment on him and rolled him a pretty nice Travincal map. Then:

1. 23.694.853

This game is so trolly. That is all.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Fabian said:
Hadn't opened D2 since I got the 22.6M last week, cause, you know, this game is boring when you don't have goals. Tonight I felt like playing though, so I respecced my level 95 Barb and put all GF equipment on him and rolled him a pretty nice Travincal map. Then:

1. 23.694.853

This game is so trolly. That is all.
Sounds like you need to get another 99 barb for this tournament to really feel complete ;)
also, congrats
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Well pharphis, the reason I made my 99er was originally for him to compete in this tournament. I finished him kinda in time for the MFO though, and after I rolled my map + played the MFO, I realized I can never ever reroll that Pit map. So yeah now I would kinda need to make another one, which I really don't feel like doing. Oh well.

Edit: Yeah, not useful.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

i imagine you have already, but you have looked at his council map to see, right?
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Code:
| forum name| character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build  |GF kill|GF hork|
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
|Fabian     | TravBarb       | 25.600.234 |    ? |           - |WW     |1770   |2670   |
|Fabian     | AxeGoldie      | 16.481.925 |   14 |  14.114.161 |WW     |1619   |2519   |
|Gripphon   | Midas          | 15.176.224 |    3 |  14.713.981 |WW     |1609   |2509   |
|Fabian     | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW     |1458   |2358   |
|Jaedhann   | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry |2351   |2244   |
|zaphodbrx  | Hrothgar       | 12,822,317 |    2 |           - |WW     |       |       |
|maareek    | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 |   12 |   8.199.068 |WW     |1461   |2225   |
|Corrupted  | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW     |       |       |
|dune       | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry |       |       |
|Fabian     | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW     |       |       |
|Fabian     | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry |       |       |
|poops      | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |   10 |   5.669.806 |WW     |1062   |1836   |
|AJK        | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy |       |       |
|Cyrax      | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap   |       |       |
|LHTB       | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy |       |       |
|skiff      | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Sorc   |       |       |
|purplelocus| Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap   |       |       |
|skiff      | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapsin|       |       |
|SnickerSnac| Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry |       |       |
|maxicek    | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy |       |       |
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
I don't know what to say about this.

Well, first, the bad. The way the runs worked out during this, I basically was left with 30 seconds at the end during which I collected no gold. There wasn't time to do a new run from there, so a decent number of time was wasted doing nothing. Now that perfection is getting closer and closer, I also judge my playing a bit more harshly than before, and there certainly were a couple spots where I waste some time doing stupid things. Overall, though, I don't think I can complain too much about that, I think the playing is mostly pretty good.

Now, the good. Holy freaking ****. From the attempts I've done in the last week, which have all been somewhere between decent to pretty good, and have all landed between 22.7 and 23.3M, I've felt comfortable that I could improve my record if things fell into place. My playing seems smoother, killing is faster, runs are quicker. Much of this is, I think, thanks to the new map. Just a matter of time and patience.

That I'd get a 25.6 though, that sure wasn't what I expected. It's tricky to predict "how high" you can go. If I look at my best single run ever and extrapolate that for an entire 30 minute block, I could probably do 45 million at least. Needless to say, this is unrealistic. Sometimes when I get a fantastic/nearly perfect beginning of a run, I do my first GoMule trip right around the 3 minute mark, and leave something like 3 million gold. That's close to a 30M pace, which is still pretty unrealistic. But not exactly impossible, in theory anyway.

This run, I did my third GoMule visit after 8:40, and had dumped 8.365.832. This works out to a 28.95M pace, which is just sick nearly 9 minutes into a run. Things progressed pretty nicely from there, too, with a few slow stretches in the middle/end, but overall "sick" is the only word I can think of to describe this run. Seriously just watch it.

1. 25.600.234 (youtube link)

[youtube]IxGI2PHB5co[/youtube]

(note that the actual run doesn't start until a minute in because I fail at video editing heh)
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

You're crazy!

I think you can do 28mil before too long.
Will leveling boost your CtH by any useful amount? I'm not sure what it currently is for you.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Warning: this post contains relatively little in ways of gold finding content. Instead, it mostly contains talk about statistics. Most people will probably find it uninteresting and boring.

So I've played a bit in the last week, trying to see if I could come close to the 25.6M result I got a week ago. The answer, as it turns out, is no. Nothing even remotely close. I've already played this character enough to know that wasn't surprising; the run I got last week appears to be such a huge outlier that, on its surface, it seems almost impossible to get. I was curious to see just how "impossible" it really was though, and as it happens I'm a statistics major, so I figured I should be able to calculate this.

So I ran Travincal a bunch in the last couple days, under the same conditions I usually would, except I didn't go for top speed and trying to break records, but instead I wrote down the amount of gold I found each run. If someone is interested in the statistics part, here's a spoiler button for you to click, otherwise keep going:

First calculating the mean and variance of the sample (202 datapoints), I then calculate a 95% confidence interval for the sample mean (assuming approximately normal distribution) as per

Mean +- z(0.025)*std dev/sqr(n) = 503296 +- 1.96*178713/sqr(202) = [478651 ; 527941]

and a 95% confidence interval for one random observation (again assuming iid and approx normal distribution and all that jazz) as per

Mean +- z(0.025)*std dev = 503296 +- 1.96*178713 = [153019 ; 853572]

What really interests me though is a confidence interval for the sum of 41 observations. Some googling led me to:

Mean*41 +- z(0.025)*std dev*sqr(41) = 20635133 +- 1.96*1144318 = [18392269 ; 22877997]



Here you can see the stuff I've described in the spoiler tag. On the left are the first 42 datapoints in my sample, on the right I've written down the gold collected during my record run (not really necessary for any calculations here, just interesting enough to save somewhere). In the middle you can see the 95% confidence intervals. Of particular interest is the interval for the sum of 41 (the amount of runs I have time for in my record run) random observations, [18.392.269 ; 22.877.997]. What this means is, if I were to do 30 minute (=41 run) record attempts over and over and over, 95% of those attempts would fall between ~18.4M and ~22.9M. Now, in reality, I will of course discard a huge number of record attempts, either because they didn't start out great, or because they got bad somewhere down the line. This is hard to quantify exactly, but definitely worth keeping in mind.

Now, in my record I collected 25.673.177 gold. This is ~4.40 standard deviations above the mean. If you're unfamiliar with statistics, one way of thinking about it might be taking a random person and finding his IQ to be 166 (the IQ scale has a mean of 100 and a standard deviation of 15). 166 is pretty damn high. So is 25.67M.

To further put this 4.40 standard deviations number in perspective, it's in the top 0.000541254% of results. Or, it's in the top one 184756th of results. It's pretty extraordinary.

If someone reported a result like this without proof, I'd assume he was lying. If someone reported a result like this with proof, I'd assume he was cheating. There's no one on this forum I trust enough where I would think this actually happened over those two possibilities. The third possibility would be that there's something (previously unknown) wrong with the numbers (perhaps that gold drops aren't random and independent of each other), and then in fourth place I would place this event actually happening.

Well, I know I haven't lied or cheated about this, so right now my feeling is that it's somewhat likely there are issues with the random number generator. One idea I have is that perhaps there's a seed number generated somewhere when you start the game which can bias for or against certain drops (like gold piles), or which might influence the size of gold piles positively or negatively, or any number of other possibilities. Of course, there's also the possibility that I got the god run of my life. Either way, I've found this decently interesting, and I've also pretty much (for real) resigned myself to the fact that I'm never beating this run. It's that extraordinary.

Cliff notes: lol statistics. lol 25.6M

Finally, if someone cares enough to play around with this themselves, here's all the data:

Code:
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572523
549186
305666
881934
357520
463438
600084
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716105
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Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Very interesting! I knew the significance of 4.40 standard deviations, but when you said it was 1/184756 SETS of trav runs, it finally hit me. That is indeed absolutely crazy, and now that we have some information on gold drops, perhaps someone with some game code know-how will be able to pop by and let us know.

This reminds me about how LK uses your computer's time or something like that to generate it's number.

Did all this just come to be an excuse not to try to beat your record!?

Don't forget about getting a 99er going in trav ;)
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

well, you said it yourself: lol
How many tries have you actually done?
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Really no idea. A couple thousand if you include all the ones where I've done one run and restarted because I got like 390k or whatever, maybe? Not something I've even remotely kept track of though. The number of attempts I've bothered finishing since I started running again recently.. maybe 30-40?

pharphis, well right now everything else about d2 is even more boring than trying to beat a 4.40 sigma event, so I'm sure I'll keep trying every now and then ;)
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Fabian,

I'm an egineering major, and I think about stat questions all the time in regards to d2, but I don't have the stats background to answer them. Would you be opposed to me PMing you about them? I'm not asking you to run a bunch of calculations - you could tell me how to do it if you like.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Daz,

Sounds like something the Anything Goes thread was made for. I'd take a look, definitely.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Got idea today to try new character at goldfinding. Why should only barbs have the honor to goldfind a huge amount of gold? Why can't blizzard sorc do that too? After some theorycrafting and equipment choosing I saw blizzard sorc can be extremely efficient goldfinder. In theory. So went to test it in practice and voila. I don't really have proper equipment for this, rather some basics excluding Fathom. I think properly equipped sorc with great map might be able to aim for very very high score.

Adding myself to a table. I did test running with score of ~16 million before I get used to char for first real attempt.

Code:
| forum name| character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build  |GF kill|GF hork|
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
|Fabian     | TravBarb       | 25.600.234 |    ? |           - |WW     |1770   |2670   |
|Gripphon   | Freya          | 18.245.529 |    1 |           - |Blizz  |1476   |       |
|Fabian     | AxeGoldie      | 16.481.925 |   14 |  14.114.161 |WW     |1619   |2519   |
|Gripphon   | Midas          | 15.176.224 |    3 |  14.713.981 |WW     |1609   |2509   |
|Fabian     | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW     |1458   |2358   |
|Jaedhann   | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry |2351   |2244   |
|zaphodbrx  | Hrothgar       | 12,822,317 |    2 |           - |WW     |       |       |
|maareek    | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 |   12 |   8.199.068 |WW     |1461   |2225   |
|Corrupted  | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW     |       |       |
|dune       | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry |       |       |
|Fabian     | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW     |       |       |
|Fabian     | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry |       |       |
|poops      | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |   10 |   5.669.806 |WW     |1062   |1836   |
|AJK        | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy |       |       |
|Cyrax      | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap   |       |       |
|LHTB       | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy |       |       |
|skiff      | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Sorc   |       |       |
|purplelocus| Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap   |       |       |
|skiff      | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapsin|       |       |
|SnickerSnac| Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry |       |       |
|maxicek    | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy |       |       |
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
Build: Blizzard sorceress
Players: 3
Gold picked: 18.245.529
Blizzard damage: 5821-6127
I picked up jewels, rare rings, grand and small charms, useful runes and uniques.

Equipment:
Crown of Thieves (Lem) - 148%
Death's Fathom 35% csd
Spirit Shield
Crafted amulet
Code:
Raven Eye
Amulet
Required Level: 89
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 95
Fingerprint: 0xb30237c
+22 to Strength
+17 to Mana
Regenerate Mana 6%
Fire Resist +19%
Lightning Resist +37%
Cold Resist +19%
Poison Resist +19%
+2 to Sorceress Skill Levels
10% Faster Cast Rate
Wealth Archon Plate - 300%
Goldwrap - 80%
Chance Guards - 200%
2x Dwarf Star - 200%
1.07 War Travelers - 100%

Switch: 14 BO CtA + Spirit

Inventory: 160/39/12 gheed
GC: 1 cold skills 26 gf, 1 cold skills 13 gf, 1 cold skills 10 gf, 40gf [email protected], 37gf 51mana, 30gf 30mana, 38gf 35mana
SC: 10gf 10mana, 10gf 2mana, 10gf 2mana, 8gf 9mana, 10gf 5cr, 10gf 6cr, 10gf 6cr, 7gf 16mana, 10gf [email protected], 9gf [email protected]
2x3 free space to pick items

Merc: Infinity, Vampire Gaze (ias), Guardian Angel (15 ias 24 fr)

Skills:
1 Warmth
1 Teleport
1 Static Field
17 Ice Bolt
20 Ice Mastery
Rest into Blizzard + synergies

Strategy of running:
You start and finish the run in act 4. Telekinesis to waypoint, select Travincal, cast BO (and BC if you feel you need it, I don't). Throw blizzard at minions, few glacial spikes (sometimes static field instead of glacial spike might be more useful), blizzard again, alt to show drops and pick up gold with telekinesis as you throw blizzards at minions at the same time. Pick whatever you wanna pick, tele back to act 4. When you pick up item, say grand charm, don't identify it, just toss it in stash unidentified with gold, you will see in atma what charm is. Same with anything you pick up. Then simply proceed further. Or you can identify if you really want, or feel bad to leave something on the ground, even though that rarely happens unless you really pick up many things.
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Wow, that's impressive Gripphon!

Now we all wonder how far can Blizzers go? Hope you experiment some more with it!

I have an ungeared blizz sorc. I tossed in equipment that looks a bit like yours. I put a Lem in my DF instead. No skillers, (I don't have any with eg). To make up for dmg loss (not sure if that's necessary), I used NW instead of CoT. Maybe I'll put a Lem in that too. That's 75+50 insted of ~150 from CoT but a 40 eg on those GCs.

No attempts yet, too tired for that right now. But this seems to work really well! Thanks for sharing this :) Now lets' go find set of skillers with 3x-40eg, 2/10 amu with 80eg... etc *drools*. This has huge potential imo.
New GF record for me with my sorc.

Code:
| forum name| character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build  |GF kill|GF hork|
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
|Fabian     | TravBarb       | 25.600.234 |    ? |           - |WW     |1770   |2670   |
|Gripphon   | Lightfly       | 19.635.381 |    x |           - |Blizz  |1610   |       |
|Fabian     | AxeGoldie      | 16.481.925 |   14 |  14.114.161 |WW     |1619   |2519   |
|Gripphon   | Midas          | 15.176.224 |    3 |  14.713.981 |WW     |1609   |2509   |
|Fabian     | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW     |1458   |2358   |
|Jaedhann   | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry |2351   |2244   |
|zaphodbrx  | Hrothgar       | 12,822,317 |    2 |           - |WW     |       |       |
|maareek    | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 |   12 |   8.199.068 |WW     |1461   |2225   |
|Corrupted  | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW     |       |       |
|dune       | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry |       |       |
|Fabian     | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW     |       |       |
|Fabian     | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry |       |       |
|poops      | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |   10 |   5.669.806 |WW     |1062   |1836   |
|AJK        | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy |       |       |
|Cyrax      | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap   |       |       |
|LHTB       | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy |       |       |
|skiff      | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Sorc   |       |       |
|purplelocus| Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap   |       |       |
|skiff      | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapsin|       |       |
|SnickerSnac| Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry |       |       |
|maxicek    | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy |       |       |
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
Build: Blizzard sorceress
Players: 3
Gold picked: 19.635.381
I picked up jewels, rare rings, flawless gems, small charms, useful runes and uniques, and random grand charms when I had space.

Build
150% Crown of Thieves
Wealth
28% Fathom (Lem)
Spirit
2 sorc/ 8fcr/ 20allres/ 56 GF amulet
Chance Guards
2x Dwarf Star
10 FHR/ 27 Str/ 12 CR/ 5 FR/ 75 GF belt
30 FRW/ 11 CR/ 23 FR/ 80 GF/ 7 MF boots

Inventory:
cold skillers with 33, 32, 31 and 26 GF, 13 allres and 15 allres GCs with 40 GF, 37 GF 52 mana GC, Gheed, 10 GF 5 allres SC and rest are Scs with random resists/mana
I have 2x4 empty space to pick stuff.

Skills:
All into Blizzard and synergies, -150% Cold Mastery, 1 point Warmth/Teleport, rest into Static Field

Method of running:
Entered Travincal, buff BO (no BC for me though), blizzard, static, blizzard, pick gold, blizzard, pick gold, ice blast when needed etc. I visited stash pretty much every second run unless I had very much luck and picked above 500k gold per run, then I went to stash it immediately. I opened stash with telekinesis (no need to walk to stash, right?), threw in charms/gems/whatever and gold, then continued running. I didn't cube gems, just threw them in stash as flawlesses. I didn't ID drops either, I see what I found in gomule.
Close Grip, but not even 80% of a Fabian.
Please, Fabnus is from another universe, it is a known fact.

With some thinking rebuilt my sorc and improved her. Improvement is easily noticeable.

Code:
| forum name| character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build  |GF kill|GF hork|
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
|Fabian     | TravBarb       | 25.600.234 |    ? |           - |WW     |1770   |2670   |
|Gripphon   | Lightfly       | 22.413.677 |    3 |  21.666.486 |Blizz  |1830   |       |
|Fabian     | AxeGoldie      | 16.481.925 |   14 |  14.114.161 |WW     |1619   |2519   |
|Gripphon   | Midas          | 15.176.224 |    3 |  14.713.981 |WW     |1609   |2509   |
|Fabian     | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW     |1458   |2358   |
|Jaedhann   | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry |2351   |2244   |
|zaphodbrx  | Hrothgar       | 12,822,317 |    2 |           - |WW     |       |       |
|maareek    | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 |   12 |   8.199.068 |WW     |1461   |2225   |
|Corrupted  | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW     |       |       |
|dune       | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry |       |       |
|Fabian     | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW     |       |       |
|Fabian     | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry |       |       |
|poops      | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |   10 |   5.669.806 |WW     |1062   |1836   |
|AJK        | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy |       |       |
|Cyrax      | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap   |       |       |
|LHTB       | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy |       |       |
|skiff      | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Sorc   |       |       |
|purplelocus| Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap   |       |       |
|skiff      | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapsin|       |       |
|SnickerSnac| Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry |       |       |
|maxicek    | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy |       |       |
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
Build: Blizzard sorceress
Area: Travincal p3
Gold picked run 1: 20.993.585
Gold picked run 2: 22.413.677
Gold picked run 3: 21.592.195
I picked up jewels, rare rings, flawless gems, small charms, useful runes and uniques, rare coronets/tiaras, and picked grand charms only if I meant to go visit stash (every second run), otherwise no.

Build and equipment
Switched 4 things on sorc to profit. Fathom, Crown of Thieves and GF boots and GF belt out, GF sword + Nightwing's + Arachind Mesh + 1.07 War Travelers in. Also slightly redistributed my skill points toward Static Field side. Those changes reduced my Blizzard damage from 6200 to 5600 and upgraded my goldfind % by 200. I also lost maxed resistances, but obviously that is not needed. Conviction is only dangerous time and for that you can use mouse to move slightly from minions until boss dies.
15% CSD NMW + Lem
Wealth
Crystal Sword 6x Lem
Spirit Shield
2 sorc/ 8fcr/ 20allres/ 56 GF amulet
Chance Guards
2x Dwarf Star
Arachnid Mesh
1.07 War Travelers

Inventory:
cold skillers with 33, 32, 31 and 26 GF, 13 allres and 15 allres GCs with 40 GF, 37 GF 52 mana GC, Gheed, 10 GF 5 allres SC and rest are Scs with random resists/mana
I have 2x4 empty space to pick stuff.

Merc: Infinity + Fortitude + Steel Shade (Ral)

Skills:
All into Blizzard and synergies, -140% Cold Mastery, 1 point Warmth/Teleport, rest into Static Field. I noticed my Static Field level wasn't enough to hit all minions sometime, so few skills into it moar works nicely.

Obvious improvement would be to try Crown of Thieves on merc and to improve his GF in general. He does kill here and there after all.
@Fabian @Gripphon

I'm so confused now. I remember before you had to run 30min...
30 min? I thought we are supposed to do 1 hour sessions!
I read 30 minutes total.
 

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Here is demonstration of my goldfind sorc. Video shows >21 million gold farming pace in 30 min, and on video farmed ~6.1 million. Missed 1 pile of gold and also did several missteleports. I have to learn to tele in windowed mode agreed.

No record, just came to post attempts with sorc for purpose of gathering average gold found per session which I will update into table eventually, and to share data in general. All attempts are listed below:

20.993.585
22.413.677
21.592.195
20.594.259
20.484.929
22.283.412
21.333.444
21.229.263

Total gold farmed: 170.924.764
Average: 21.365.596

In last two sessions counted number of runs done out of curiosity, and it was 65 runs and 64 runs. Also based on 229 runs sample, average gold collected per run is 336045.8, and with that I can estimate I do 63.6 runs average per session of goldfinding.

I think I'm pretty much done for now with this, until I do crafting and hope for something that will improve my sorc. I have a plan how to squeeze extra ~70% GF on her, but I need some luck with belt crafting. After that new attempts might happen and then estimated average for my sorc would be in range of 22 million. We shall see with time.
Resurrecting this great thread since I made an attempt finally. I think I have done some with a WW Barb couple years back and also may have timed couple attempts with Blizz sorc, but no info about those runs.

Recently I re-geared one of my sorcs and re-rolled Travi maps to get a good one. Result of my first and only attempt so far is 14.569.876. I think it's pretty decent considering I died once and resurrected my merc twice :p

Code:
| forum name| character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build  |GF kill|GF hork|
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
|Fabian     | TravBarb       | 25.600.234 |    ? |           - |WW     |1770   |2670   |
|Gripphon   | Lightfly       | 22.413.677 |    3 |  21.666.486 |Blizz  |1830   |       |
|Fabian     | AxeGoldie      | 16.481.925 |   14 |  14.114.161 |WW     |1619   |2519   |
|Gripphon   | Midas          | 15.176.224 |    3 |  14.713.981 |WW     |1609   |2509   |
|Grape      | IceTea         | 14.569.876 |    1 |  14.569.876 |Blizz  |1680   |       |     
|Fabian     | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW     |1458   |2358   |
|Jaedhann   | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry |2351   |2244   |
|zaphodbrx  | Hrothgar       | 12,822,317 |    2 |           - |WW     |       |       |
|maareek    | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 |   12 |   8.199.068 |WW     |1461   |2225   |
|Corrupted  | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW     |       |       |
|dune       | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry |       |       |
|Fabian     | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW     |       |       |
|Fabian     | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry |       |       |
|poops      | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |   10 |   5.669.806 |WW     |1062   |1836   |
|AJK        | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy |       |       |
|Cyrax      | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap   |       |       |
|LHTB       | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy |       |       |
|skiff      | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Sorc   |       |       |
|purplelocus| Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap   |       |       |
|skiff      | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapsin|       |       |
|SnickerSnac| Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry |       |       |
|maxicek    | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy |       |       |
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
Build:
Code:
29% CSD DF 'Lem'
97% EG CoT 'Lem'
2 Sorc/10 FCR/70% EG/adds crafted amulet
Spirit 35% FCR
Wealth Mage Plate
Chance Guards
2xDwarf Stars
1.07 War Traveler
Belt with str/fire res/68% EG

Merc with:
Eth Infinity Tresher
Eth 100% EG CoT
Eth upgraded GA 'IAS jool'

Inv:
160% EG Gheed's
7 x Grand Charms with total of 266% EG, some with res, some with mana and one Chilling
10 x Small Charms with total of 94% EG, with some res and mana
Cube
That is very impressive for a first try. From this point on you will simply improve yourself and soon be closer to 18 million. I simply found out that more GF% >>> damage, just to give you idea where to seek improvements. When I removed Fathom for Lemmed crystal sword, I scored like few millions more for example. But anyway, nice going there. This proves that sorc is indeed great goldfinder character.

Oh yes, I'd suggest to try Steel Shade on merc to keep him alive. Awesome helmet for him IMO, but it is up to you.

Also it reminds me I should give a new attempt since now I have new piece of gear that throws my GF over 1900 limit and should be "in theory" be able to break 23 million.
After making the equipment switch @Gripphon suggested, breaking the record was piece of cake. I thought I couldn't make up for the big resistance losses with this switch, but I swapped a bit charms and it's fine.

I kept the merc the way it is for now. He didn't die.

Code:
| forum name| character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build  |GF kill|GF hork|
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
|Fabian     | TravBarb       | 25.600.234 |    ? |           - |WW     |1770   |2670   |
|Gripphon   | Lightfly       | 22.413.677 |    3 |  21.666.486 |Blizz  |1830   |       |
|Grape      | IceTea         | 17.469.360 |    2 |  16.019.618 |Blizz  |1877   |       |
|Fabian     | AxeGoldie      | 16.481.925 |   14 |  14.114.161 |WW     |1619   |2519   |
|Gripphon   | Midas          | 15.176.224 |    3 |  14.713.981 |WW     |1609   |2509   |
|Fabian     | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW     |1458   |2358   |
|Jaedhann   | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry |2351   |2244   |
|zaphodbrx  | Hrothgar       | 12,822,317 |    2 |           - |WW     |       |       |
|maareek    | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 |   12 |   8.199.068 |WW     |1461   |2225   |
|Corrupted  | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW     |       |       |
|dune       | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry |       |       |
|Fabian     | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW     |       |       |
|Fabian     | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry |       |       |
|poops      | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |   10 |   5.669.806 |WW     |1062   |1836   |
|AJK        | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy |       |       |
|Cyrax      | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap   |       |       |
|LHTB       | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy |       |       |
|skiff      | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Sorc   |       |       |
|purplelocus| Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap   |       |       |
|skiff      | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapsin|       |       |
|SnickerSnac| Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry |       |       |
|maxicek    | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy |       |       |
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
Attempts:
Code:
#1 14.569.876 (1609 EG%)
#2 17.469.360 (1877 EG%)
Build:
Code:
6xLem Crystal Sword
15% CSD Nightwing's 'Lem'
2 Sorc/10 FCR/70% EG/adds crafted amulet
Spirit 35% FCR
Wealth Mage Plate
Chance Guards
2xDwarf Stars
1.07 War Traveler
Arachnid Mesh

Merc with:
Eth Infinity Tresher
Eth 100% EG CoT
Eth upgraded GA 'IAS jool'

Inv:
160% EG Gheed's
7 x Grand Charms with total of 253% EG, some with res, some with mana and one Chilling
10 x Small Charms with total of 94% EG, with some res and mana
Cube


Aim for 20 million now, gogogo. Some practice, some luck and voila.
New best run for me, supplies. Upgraded sorc slightly (well, in goldfind department, while she is now weaker in life, mana, resistances and damage).

Code:
| forum name| character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build  |GF kill|GF hork|
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
|Fabian     | TravBarb       | 25.600.234 |    ? |           - |WW     |1770   |2670   |
|Gripphon   | Lightfly       | 23.783.297 |    2 |  22.886.862 |Blizz  |1906   |       |
|Grape      | IceTea         | 17.469.360 |    2 |  16.019.618 |Blizz  |1877   |       |
|Fabian     | AxeGoldie      | 16.481.925 |   14 |  14.114.161 |WW     |1619   |2519   |
|Gripphon   | Midas          | 15.176.224 |    3 |  14.713.981 |WW     |1609   |2509   |
|Fabian     | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW     |1458   |2358   |
|Jaedhann   | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry |2351   |2244   |
|zaphodbrx  | Hrothgar       | 12,822,317 |    2 |           - |WW     |       |       |
|maareek    | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 |   12 |   8.199.068 |WW     |1461   |2225   |
|Corrupted  | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW     |       |       |
|dune       | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry |       |       |
|Fabian     | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW     |       |       |
|Fabian     | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry |       |       |
|poops      | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |   10 |   5.669.806 |WW     |1062   |1836   |
|AJK        | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy |       |       |
|Cyrax      | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap   |       |       |
|LHTB       | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy |       |       |
|skiff      | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Sorc   |       |       |
|purplelocus| Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap   |       |       |
|skiff      | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapsin|       |       |
|SnickerSnac| Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry |       |       |
|maxicek    | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy |       |       |
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
Attempts:
21990426
23783297

Also a little something I got by doing second attempt and also view at sorc, dead bodies etc.

Gear:
Blizzard damage: 5151-5423
Static field range: 12.6 yards
Cold Mastery: -130%

15% CSD NMW + Lem
Wealth
Crystal Sword 6x Lem
Spirit Shield
2 sorc/ 18fcr/ 45 GF amulet
Chance Guards
2x Dwarf Star
10 fcr, 19 mana, 76 GF crafted belt
1.07 War Travelers

Inventory:
cold skillers with 33, 33, 32 and 31 GF, 13 allres and 15 allres GCs with 40 GF, 40 GF 37 mana GC, Gheed, 10 GF 5 allres SC and rest are Scs with random resists/mana
I have 2x4 empty space to pick stuff.

Merc: Infinity + Fortitude + Steel Shade (Ral)

Skills:
All into Blizzard and synergies, -130% Cold Mastery, 1 point Warmth/Teleport, rest into Static Field. I noticed my Static Field level wasn't enough to hit all minions sometime, so few skills into it moar works nicely. Also Cold Mastery is not really important since with Infinity out all minions have -100 cold resist, it is mainly to counter Toorc. Having 12+ range on Static is important imo to spam it from a safe distance and to hit all minions on screen with it.

I think I should be able to improve that best run slightly more, probably over 24 million range. Question is how many attempts will I need. 23.7 million seems to the lucky side as I expect my average to hover in 22-22.5 million range.
Been awhile, but great work there Gripphon!

Reporting an attempt: 15.234.872 - so no new record for me, but I tried a new setup...

Most of my recent Travi runs have been in a 100% relaxed playing and picking up too much stuff. :p But since I still try to improve my char's efficiency, I just tried something a bit different: 105% FCR setup. I came up with the idea because I found a little Orb that got me wondering if it had any real uses.

Code:
Artisan's Jared's Stone of the Magus
Jared's Stone
One Hand Damage: 8 - 18
Durability: 33 of 50
Required Level: 43
Fingerprint: 0xc23e2162
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+20% Faster Cast Rate
+2 to Blizzard (Sorceress Only)
+2 to Energy Shield (Sorceress Only)
+13 to Life
225% Extra Gold from Monsters
3 Sockets (3 used)
Socketed: Lem Rune
Socketed: Lem Rune
Socketed: Lem Rune

In order to reach 105 FCR, I figured Circlets would probably be the easiest way.

Well unfortunately this was the best I could find from my stashes:

Code:
Glyph Visage
Circlet
Defense: 28
Durability: 34 of 35
Required Level: 67
Fingerprint: 0xea1eb333
Item Level: **
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+2 to Sorceress Skill Levels
+10% Faster Cast Rate
+27 to Life
Poison Resist +7%
119% Extra Gold from Monsters
1 Sockets (1 used)
Socketed: Lem Rune
That meant that I had to give up one ring (Dwarf Star) in order to make up for the 10 FCR that this circlet missed. I had one nice 10 FCR/40% EG/adds.

In the end I gave up a little (1877 before, 1661 now) EG% for the next FCR break point. Seems that this might not be worth it. Hard to say after only one real attempt, but it must be noticed that there's quite a lot of more potential if I ever manage to gamble a proper circlet for this build. (ideally, 2 Sorc/20FCR/2 sockets/80% EG, but even plain 2/20 magic with two Lems would be an upgrade now since it would allow to use another Dwarf Star.)

So at least it's something to look for. It must also be noted, that such orbs are very hard to come by if someone wants to try out anything like this, but correct me if I'm wrong, one could re-roll magic orbs in 1.10a(?) for 3 socket ones without the need for the Jeweler's as a prefix.
How much goldfind on 1.07 war travs? You guys should visit classic, at least in 1.00 goldfind on belts/boots/amulets go up to 119% which includes rares, and at least in the boots department they can have some brutal stats (20FHR 19str 49 single res 119%GF and life [but not at the same time I think]).
helvete said:
How much goldfind on 1.07 war travs? You guys should visit classic, at least in 1.00 goldfind on belts/boots/amulets go up to 119% which includes rares, and at least in the boots department they can have some brutal stats (20FHR 19str 49 single res 119%GF and life [but not at the same time I think]).
1.07 WTs are 100% extra gold. So yeah, pre-lod classic is indeed where some improvements could be found!
Grape said:
So at least it's something to look for. It must also be noted, that such orbs are very hard to come by if someone wants to try out anything like this, but correct me if I'm wrong, one could re-roll magic orbs in 1.10a(?) for 3 socket ones without the need for the Jeweler's as a prefix.
Which recipe are you thinking? I know there is an old chippy recipe that can roll 3 sockets in blues, but it only worked on swords.

You could try to hit Artisan's/Jeweler's with the current chippy recipe using the right qlvl base, but I'm not sure if the sockets from the recipe would override the roll or not.
Brak said:
Which recipe are you thinking? I know there is an old chippy recipe that can roll 3 sockets in blues, but it only worked on swords.

You could try to hit Artisan's/Jeweler's with the current chippy recipe using the right qlvl base, but I'm not sure if the sockets from the recipe would override the roll or not.
Yeah, that's the 1.09 chippie recipe you're thinking about.

I'm talking about 1.10a (I think) recipe, which works with flawless and normal gems. I couldn't find much discussion about it, but there's some. I think at least @nulio rolled some Runic Talons a while back with the recipe.

It seems that the qlvl of item comes in the play, so the orbs I was dreaming about would maybe need to be Dimensional Shards to have the possibility to spawn with the most desired mods. Probably not the easiest items to come by, since orbs can't be racked...
I'd rather have the extra 225% goldfind, I think. And roll GCs like crazy to get chilling ones with 40% EG
helvete said:
I'd rather have the extra 225% goldfind, I think. And roll GCs like crazy to get chilling ones with 40% EG
Yeah, that's probably the best setup still. It's just that the +105% FCR feels so much more smoother than +63%, that you think you are killing a lot faster, while the difference is quite small.
How much GF do you have to let go to have FCR? As I see it, you can get to 55% with spirit and a rare coronet, just missing out on 200% from the shield, then use a rare or crafted amulet to get to 63%. I'll have to look up the breakpoints, but it might be more efficient to go even lower. There isn't a lot of distance between the WP and the council. Losing the resists, ~100 mana and +2 all from spirit for +200% more gold might be dubious though...
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I'm talking about 1.10a (I think) recipe, which works with flawless and normal gems. I couldn't find much discussion about it, but there's some. I think at least @nulio rolled some Runic Talons a while back with the recipe.
time travel is so hax
I don't remember exactly. Iirc there's two recipes:

3 normal gems + socketed weapon = socketed magic weapon with two affixes (up to 3os in some claws, 5os in zerkers?, etc)
3 flawless gems + magic weapon = same result

So you can start the rolling with either grey or blue weapons and then go with normal gems and use the flawless to make perfect gems and roll other stuff, or burn both rolling for hax blue socketed weapons.
Wazzup. Nothing major, just reporting a new record.

I did 3 new attempts:
23805701
25773225
24883515
Average farmed per attempt: 24820814

I didn't think this would be possible, but it is. Actually, depending on what my real average farmed gold is, I might even be able to improve the record in the future above 26 million. I say this because third attempt also went into near record value, but then had terrible luck with gold toward the end and it threw me below 25 million. So, who knows, especially with some potential gear upgrades.

Code:
| forum name| character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build  |GF kill|GF hork|
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
|Gripphon   | Lightfly       | 25.773.225 |    3 |  24.820.814 |Blizz  |2021   |       |
|Fabian     | TravBarb       | 25.600.234 |    ? |           - |WW     |1770   |2670   |
|Grape      | IceTea         | 17.469.360 |    2 |  16.019.618 |Blizz  |1877   |       |
|Fabian     | AxeGoldie      | 16.481.925 |   14 |  14.114.161 |WW     |1619   |2519   |
|Gripphon   | Midas          | 15.176.224 |    3 |  14.713.981 |WW     |1609   |2509   |
|Fabian     | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW     |1458   |2358   |
|Jaedhann   | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry |2351   |2244   |
|zaphodbrx  | Hrothgar       | 12,822,317 |    2 |           - |WW     |       |       |
|maareek    | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 |   12 |   8.199.068 |WW     |1461   |2225   |
|Corrupted  | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW     |       |       |
|dune       | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry |       |       |
|Fabian     | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW     |       |       |
|Fabian     | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry |       |       |
|poops      | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |   10 |   5.669.806 |WW     |1062   |1836   |
|AJK        | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy |       |       |
|Cyrax      | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap   |       |       |
|LHTB       | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy |       |       |
|skiff      | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Sorc   |       |       |
|purplelocus| Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap   |       |       |
|skiff      | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapsin|       |       |
|SnickerSnac| Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry |       |       |
|maxicek    | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy |       |       |
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
Gear:
2/20 LemLem circlet
Wealth
2/8fcr/[email protected]/56gf amulet
6x Lem crystal sword
Spirit
78%gf 29LR belt
Chancies
2x Dwarf Star
1.07 WT

Switch: CtA + Spirit (I don't cast BC, waste of time)

Merc: Infinity, Fortitude, Cham'd eth Steelshade

Inventory:
GCs: 160% gheed, cold skillers with 33, 33, 32, 31 gf, 40/[email protected], 40/[email protected], 40/59 mana, 40/39 mana
SCs: 10/11LR, 10/10LR, 10/7LR, 9/9LR, 9/9LR, 10/[email protected], 10/11CR, 10/11CR, 10/14mana
4x1 free space for picking stuff
Stuff picked up: flawless amethysts and rubies, small charms, jewels, Ral, Sol

Blizzard damage: 4480-4716
Static field range: 12.6 yards
Cold Mastery: -130%
HP: 1814
Mana: 850

I timed my runs and it seems my average is ~27 seconds including gomule visits which are very short anyway (they last like 4 seconds?). What sped me up is disabling glide wrapper and playing on increased window screen same as I did during RFL to get ~17.3s running. With glide wrapper s/e times were ~1.5 seconds slower and I had much harder time picking gold up since window was rather small.

Mathematically, with 27 s runtimes my expected average should be ~24620000 gold... So, if that is true, I could expect to nail several values over 25 million soon. Record is 1.1 million above that, so I think it should be more than doable to upgrade it with more attempts which I plan on doing. Going above 26 million should also be easily possible with enough attempts. Better playing, better luck and possibly removing rubies from a picklist might do the trick.
Awesome Gripphon!

I'm about to do some attempts myself. Still not the perfect map, but I'd like to see where I am at right now.

Similar setup as Grip, 3/20 circlet, but less skillers, so little bit less dmg.
Grip,

Congrats on beating my record. All good things must end!
 

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@Grape
Gogogo over 20!

@Fabian
Thank you. If I manage to get some classic belt and boots and upgrade GF by additional 50%, expected average would rise to ~25.18 million and according to my previous tests, I usually get 5% above average score inside 10 attempts so then ~26.4 million should be easy to reach. For now that 5% upper limit is on ~25.8 million so I do aim to try to reach 26+ soon if possible. In the end, plenty of running to do to test sorc possibilities.
26.037.254

It was 27mil pace at half mark then drops became worse

Code:
| forum name| character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build  |GF kill|GF hork|
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
|Gripphon   | Lightfly       | 26.037.254 |    - |  ~24.8 mil  |Blizz  |2059   |       |
|Fabian     | TravBarb       | 25.600.234 |    ? |           - |WW     |1770   |2670   |
|Grape      | IceTea         | 17.469.360 |    2 |  16.019.618 |Blizz  |1877   |       |
|Fabian     | AxeGoldie      | 16.481.925 |   14 |  14.114.161 |WW     |1619   |2519   |
|Gripphon   | Midas          | 15.176.224 |    3 |  14.713.981 |WW     |1609   |2509   |
|Fabian     | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW     |1458   |2358   |
|Jaedhann   | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry |2351   |2244   |
|zaphodbrx  | Hrothgar       | 12,822,317 |    2 |           - |WW     |       |       |
|maareek    | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 |   12 |   8.199.068 |WW     |1461   |2225   |
|Corrupted  | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW     |       |       |
|dune       | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry |       |       |
|Fabian     | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW     |       |       |
|Fabian     | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry |       |       |
|poops      | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |   10 |   5.669.806 |WW     |1062   |1836   |
|AJK        | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy |       |       |
|Cyrax      | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap   |       |       |
|LHTB       | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy |       |       |
|skiff      | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Sorc   |       |       |
|purplelocus| Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap   |       |       |
|skiff      | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapsin|       |       |
|SnickerSnac| Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry |       |       |
|maxicek    | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy |       |       |
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
Gear:
2/20 LemLem circlet
Wealth
2/8fcr/[email protected]/56gf amulet
6x Lem crystal sword
Spirit
78%gf 29LR belt
Chancies
2x Dwarf Star
1.07 WT

Switch: CtA + Spirit (I don't cast BC, waste of time)

Merc: Infinity, Fortitude, Cham'd eth Steelshade

Inventory:
GCs: 160% gheed, cold skillers with 33, 33, 32, 31 gf, 40/[email protected], 40/[email protected], 40/59 mana, 40/39 mana, 38/49 mana
SCs: 10/11LR, 10/10LR, 10/7LR, 9/9LR, 9/9LR, 10/[email protected], 10/11CR, 10/11CR, 10/14mana
1x1 free space for picking stuff
Stuff picked up: Jah rune lol

Blizzard damage: 4480-4716
Static field range: 12.6 yards
Cold Mastery: -130%
HP: 1814
Mana: 850
Crazy stuff !!
Congrats on the new record!
Congrats on the new record, and happy birthday to the thread which turned 10 years old last week!

It's a shame I don't have my items and characters any more, they're stashed away on a hard drive inside a broken computer. It would be fun to revisit this some time, from a quick look through the thread it seems to be nearly six years ago since I got my high score, and stopped trying seriously. I think I could probably get at least 20M+ pretty easily still, rusty old man that I am.

Hope to see you keep raising the bar Grip, and get some runs on youtube!
Thank you. I'll certainly do more tries from time to time. This isn't the maximum potential of the sorc yet. Since I no longer care about items I'll just go focus gold to see what she can achieve. All I need is Nulio to gift me some gear improvements as well. Nulioooooo!
 

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Originally posted by @Gripphon on Feb 3, 2019. I thought this post should be shown in its entirety due to its nature and information, so is posted alone in its original place in the thread


BARBARIAN VS SORCERESS - GOLDFINDING ASPECT

The question I wish to answer here is which of these two classes is better in goldfinding. Let's compare the two in few aspects of goldfinding. Not everyone might agree how I scored them but in the end it does depend on a playing style and prefferences of each player, so providing my point of view.

1. Gear


Barbarian needs: 2 Grief swords minimum, solid damage goldfind charms to do solid damage, teleport charges somewhere if Enigma is not used (amulet possibly best option)

Sorceress needs: some skills, 4.2k+ Blizzard damage is enough and 12+ yards on static, some mana either on charms or from gear

Conclusion: sorceress is possibly less dependant on gear to do good running. 0-1


2. Survivability


Barbarian has naturally high life, he has passive resistances bonus. His survivability is okay if player pays attention and does good whirling.

Sorceress needs some lighting resistance from gear or bolts will fry her. Also she may have issues by having low life. Such can be given by using Shako (both mana and life plus skills) and some charms, but lowering her own goldfind by certain value. But on a plus side barbarians playing is more complicated while with sorc it's only drop Blizzard, throw Static and collect gold from safe distance.

Conclusion: I'd give slight edge to barb here. Maybe sorceress is easier to play and keep her on distance, but barb's life and resistances do provide better surviving chances. 1-1


3. Playstyle


With barbarian you need to do good whirlwinds which is challenging by itself, mana burn can be annoying, perhaps pay more attention to merc and use switch for horking.

With sorceress you spam Blizzard, Static and collect gold with Telekinesis. Merc is very safe, I don't even use lifeleech on mine.

Conclusion: sorceress is more relaxing and easier to play with less things to do. 1-2


4. Map


Sorceress needs really good map to properly run. Barb can get away with something less perfect. 2-2


5. Gold farmed


The most important aspect. Who can actually farm more gold? Let's assume similarly geared characters when it comes to wealth and let's assume sorceress player invested few hours to roll nearly perfect map.

We lack entries from sorceress players to have more complete picture on this, only other sorceress player beside me is Grape and he immediately scored high, although I don't know did he properly try barb. I have one entry in the table with barbarian at 15 million gold. Gear he used is in wealth comparable to what I have on sorc today. I mean I do have really good goldfind gear and amulet and everything for a barb. He crushed my score with his very first entry to this thread, let alone his best entry. Neither he nor I didn't try much with our characters, but the fact remains how much higher his score is. Of course I could improve my barb, but so can he his sorc.

Okay, perhaps I could improve my barb's average by some margin, but by how much? ~10 million gold? Because that's how much I must improve him to get to sorceress level (14.7 mil gold vs 24+ mil).

Conclusion: I would estimate sorceress is anywhere between 10 to 20% better gold collector (I don't dare to give it higher difference, although even if I manage to get average gold for barb to 20 mil my sorc would still be 24-25% stronger). That means I would expect good barbarian and good sorceress players to score 10-20% more average gold with sorceress. That doesn't mean their highest scores will be in same relations due to luck spikes (I didn't notice anything unusual for sorc so far, spikes were rather in some "normal" limits and not something ridiculously outstanding). 2-3


FINAL THOUGHTS


It is interesting to read through this thread to see the history development and optimizations. For a long time it was thought barbarians are absolute kings of Travincal in everything. I also entered diablo world with such knowledge and did perhaps 40 or more thousand Travincal runs with barbarian and then I saw Travincal blizzard sorceress video from @frozzzen that got me curious. I also saw @zgpmf using blizzard sorceress in some Travincal tournament before with good results.

And here we are today, barbs are no longer kings of Travincal, now is the era of blizzard sorceress same as it was on MFO before people had easy access to Enigma. When it comes to normal Travincal running barbarians are still similarly good as blizzard sorcs, but are less practical to play and people tend to avoid them. However, new sorceress era got me curious to theorycraft and try her in goldfinding too. 5 years ago my thoughts were "hey, if she can challenge barb in normal play, why shouldn't she be able to do the same in goldfinding?" Quote from my first sorceress entry in this thread 5 years ago:

Gripphon said:
I think properly equipped sorc with great map might be able to aim for very very high score.
How high? I didn't know back then. What I can say now is if you have perfect map, classic gear and don't care much about picking stuff up, you could expect average farmed gold in 25 million gold area. As for luck spikes, 27+ million area with some tries. Even with current sorceress I could possibly aim to 27 but it requires good concentration of playing and obviously good luck on drops. Will it happen or not we shall see with time. I do hope to get classic gear improvements to have better inspiration truly test the highest capabilities of a sorc.
 

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I did two more runs. First one would have been record if merc didn't die.

25.944.694
25.579.090

I also counted number of runs for each session. Both were 69 runs total which means average runtime is ~26.1 seconds. Not sure how to improve on that any further. Technique I did now is drop Blizzard, spam 5-6 Static and then Blizzard + pickup. Third Blizzard is not necessary all the time, merc usually kills leftovers as sorc picks up gold. Glacial Spike can be thrown one eventually when Fanaticism is around. Also sorc slightly lacks lightning resistance because her life drops fast with Conviction around.
Crazy stuff @Gripphon !

I mean to try for a new record (personal best, 20m+ would be nice) after I've found (gambled) some good enough belt/boots in 1.00.
Grape said:
Crazy stuff @Gripphon !

I mean to try for a new record (personal best, 20m+ would be nice) after I've found (gambled) some good enough belt/boots in 1.00.
Post the boots and belt in here when you find some!
 

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@Pb_pal I retrieved the latest table from the old forum since I couldn't extract it from your post (can't quote a quote)

***

I've been doing two attempts at this today after I realized how slowly gold was accumulating in my Gomule bank. The first attempt was absolutely horrible and netted only 13.301.986 gold, so I looked around this thread a bit and changed a few things up:
  • Fill up the stash when the character is full, and only mule off once both are full.
  • Reduce inventory to 2x4 free space from 4x4.
  • Replace Kira's Guardian with NWV on sorc
  • Replace Ali Baba 'Lem' 'Lem' with a 6 Lem CS.
Apparently that did the trick and I immediately scored much higher!
NWV 'Lem' 11% CSD
6xLem Crystal Sword
Wealth
Spirit
Chance Guards
Arach
Rare Boots: 20% FRW, 20% LR, 29% CR, 66% EG
2xDwarf (15 MDR)
Crafted Amulet: 10% fcr, 13 Mana, [email protected], 62% EG
Gheed's 160% EG
40 life/30% CR GC
Rest % EG GC+SC with useful adds

Merc
Infinity
Steelshade 'Cham'
CoH

Improvements can obviously still be made. A crafted belt would be cool, only I never crafted a single caster belt :D Let's hope my next trip to classic coughs up some 100+ % EG rares!

Code:
| forum name| character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build  |GF kill|GF hork|
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
|Gripphon   | Lightfly       | 26.037.254 |    - |  ~24.8 mil  |Blizz  |2059   |       |
|Fabian     | TravBarb       | 25.600.234 |    ? |           - |WW     |1770   |2670   |
|art_vandela| trav_i         | 17.951.795 |    ? |           - |Blizz  |1788   |       |
|Grape      | IceTea         | 17.469.360 |    2 |  16.019.618 |Blizz  |1877   |       |
|Fabian     | AxeGoldie      | 16.481.925 |   14 |  14.114.161 |WW     |1619   |2519   |
|Gripphon   | Midas          | 15.176.224 |    3 |  14.713.981 |WW     |1609   |2509   |
|Fabian     | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW     |1458   |2358   |
|Jaedhann   | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry |2351   |2244   |
|zaphodbrx  | Hrothgar       | 12,822,317 |    2 |           - |WW     |       |       |
|maareek    | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 |   12 |   8.199.068 |WW     |1461   |2225   |
|Corrupted  | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW     |       |       |
|dune       | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry |       |       |
|Fabian     | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW     |       |       |
|Fabian     | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry |       |       |
|poops      | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |   10 |   5.669.806 |WW     |1062   |1836   |
|AJK        | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy |       |       |
|Cyrax      | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap   |       |       |
|LHTB       | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy |       |       |
|skiff      | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Sorc   |       |       |
|purplelocus| Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap   |       |       |
|skiff      | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapsin|       |       |
|SnickerSnac| Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry |       |       |
|maxicek    | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy |       |       |
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
 
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