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I'm assuming it can cause something to happen immediately or grant some sort of ability and you can't know exactly what.
I don't understand aversion to admitting what box you have here.
Firstly, there are more town than mafia, I'm assuming, so being open about boxes and how we can use them effectively might be our best interest.
Second, we all should be brainstorming what these boxes could do. Let's say CDM has a really cool sounding box, something that sounds like it will benefit him greatly, well this may just be some Needful Things scenario, as there's always a price to pay and something you may not have expected.
Not claiming what your box is, isn't necessarily anti-town, I'd argue the initial aversion to claiming it to be fairly town. But these boxes don't carry scum/town weighting, so it's all equal footing. Knowing who has what box and effects that may happen overnight can give us a much better idea of what is actually happening. Yes, mafia will have some knowledge, but I believe full transparency on the box issue is a much larger benefit to town than mafia.
Did anyone directly say they didn't want to claim their box? (heh?) Also, I agree with Zokar, this just reeks of scum. Everyone brainstorming to determine what they do, how is that more beneficial to the town than it is to the mafia?
Also, ya, CDM did.Did anyone directly say they didn't want to claim their box? (heh?)
I think the list will be constantly updated, but ya clarification from Sath would be great.Well, not telling your boxes names will make it harder for mafia (and town alike) to acquire new boxes. If you trade yours to the shelf instead of using it, there will be an "anonymous" box unless Sath updates the box list on the shelf by night / start of the day phase. As far as trading between players... meh. Rather just get the powers out of them and start putting them to use. Don't let the boxes distract the scumhunt too much.
I'm not saying claim roles, I'm saying claim boxes.
Also, ya, CDM did.
I think the list will be constantly updated, but ya clarification from Sath would be great.
I have told what mine is.Cool! Multi quoting works on tapatapa...
Agreed on clarification from mod.
I may give show mine later, have you shown yours?
I'm not saying claim roles, I'm saying claim boxes. There's a big difference here. We already have an idea of what's out there, and if we don't have any idea of what anyone has, then ****'s gonna just start happening and we might not be able to figure it out.
I say that box claiming and brainstorming usages is much better than not knowing anything. We can also get a list of who has what going, to make trades much easier.
In what way does this reek of scum? That I think we should be more open, rather than super closed off like the last few games? Town has been crap the past while and I think it's the communication.
Also, ya, CDM did.
Everybody is VT or will claim such, so ... yeah. Boxes!
I'm not saying claim roles, I'm saying claim boxes. There's a big difference here. We already have an idea of what's out there, and if we don't have any idea of what anyone has, then ****'s gonna just start happening and we might not be able to figure it out.
I say that box claiming and brainstorming usages is much better than not knowing anything. We can also get a list of who has what going, to make trades much easier.
In what way does this reek of scum? That I think we should be more open, rather than super closed off like the last few games? Town has been crap the past while and I think it's the communication.
Since we do not have any roles, the boxes are all the information we got. If I think what's in my box (hypothetically ofc) could be a cop or a doc role, why should I tell?
Even just saying "I have a level 3 box" is painting a target on your back. As far as we know, scum is as confused as us about the boxes and them knowing which kind of boxes we have simply makes it easier for them to hit somebody with a "good" box. On the other hand, town knowing what kinda boxes we have hardly helps town at all, since we have no way to tell "anti-town boxes" from "town boxes" (and to my understanding, these two kind of boxes doesn't actually exist).
You are asking town to show all their cards on the first day. In normal games, people would have been all over you for role fishing. I agree, what you are doing reeks of scum.
How does knowing what everyone's box is called and their level allow us to determine how to use them effectively in any way?I don't think it is taking away any advantage. We will be gaining knowledge and we will be able to see how everyone uses these powers. We will also hopefully be able to figure out how to use these boxes effectively so they don't just get wasted.
I don't think there is any reason to believe there are no PRs in town or mafia yet. If there are no PRs, then Gory's post earlier about not getting VT may have some bigger implications.
I think the list will be constantly updated, but ya clarification from Sath would be great.
The first (or second dunno) post states the role desciptions of only VTs and Mafia Goons, which led me to believe that there are no PRs, but that every box has either an effect or power that i given to the player opening it.And yes, we all know we all have a box but we do not know what is in them.
Lets see.
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