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I would check the formula in the avg dmg column again. Comparing hit for hit, a 2-hander like an eBotD GPA should beat a 1-handed Grief by a decent margin (something like ~30% with your off-weapon ED example). Once the double hit check is factored in for DPS calculations, Dual Grief jumps ahead to the tune of ~50% more DPS.
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eBotD avg dmg = (avg base dmg) * 1.5 eth * 5.00 OnED * 11.9 OffED * (1+0.65+(1-0.65)*0.3)I should stop posting so late and so tired. Thank you! Do the final numbers look about right now?
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why i keep playing so greedy with sorcs, lvl 70, last one was lvl 77
Even pressed Esc once but played it greedy and deeded
I just need a break and play a slow untwinked sorc
why i keep playing so greedy with sorcs, lvl 70, last one was lvl 77
Even pressed Esc once but played it greedy and deeded
I just need a break and play a slow untwinked sorc
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@Caralis
Aw, that's so annoying.
I have looked at a drop calculator and the chances of finding Sanders set items. The best target is unsurprisingly normal Mephisto but the odds are surprisingly bad for the cap. Can anyone confirm whether this is correct or not (version 1.13)? Why such a huge difference?
Sanders Paragon:
1:13345
The rest:
1:521
1:439
1:261
Aw, that's so annoying.
I have looked at a drop calculator and the chances of finding Sanders set items. The best target is unsurprisingly normal Mephisto but the odds are surprisingly bad for the cap. Can anyone confirm whether this is correct or not (version 1.13)? Why such a huge difference?
Sanders Paragon:
1:13345
The rest:
1:521
1:439
1:261
Cap is TC3, Mephisto drops from this TC are improbable. Also since it requires a high ilvl to roll Sander's and it's a TC3 base item it's really difficult to find. The odds seem about right.
I don't know if my mind is rationalising the work I put in to learn the details, or the 3 Los in Zweihanders, but I'm enjoying the runs notably more now. I find myself worrying much less about my placement. Repairing is not annoying (need to repair every 4-5 runs), but I probably wouldn't do, say, Trav runs with this setup. Fortunate with the rolls, too:
So, thanks, @maxicek, @zemaj, @Fruit and @NanoMist!
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Grief
Zweihander
EthTirLoMalRal
One Hand Damage: 19 - 35
Two Hand Damage: 29 - 54
Durability: 10 of 50
Required Level: 59
Required Strength: 125
Required Dexterity: 94
Fingerprint: 0x68470447
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
35% Chance to cast level 15 Venom on striking
+31% Increased Attack Speed
Damage +399
Ignore Target's Defense
-25% Target Defense
+178% Damage to Demons (Based on Character Level)
Adds 5 - 30 Fire Damage
-25% to Enemy Poison Resistance
20% Deadly Strike
Prevent Monster Heal
+2 to Mana after each Kill
+12 Life after each Kill
Grief
Zweihander
EthTirLoMalRal
One Hand Damage: 19 - 35
Two Hand Damage: 29 - 54
Durability: 28 of 50
Required Level: 59
Required Strength: 125
Required Dexterity: 94
Fingerprint: 0x6e14172
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
35% Chance to cast level 15 Venom on striking
+31% Increased Attack Speed
Damage +382
Ignore Target's Defense
-25% Target Defense
+178% Damage to Demons (Based on Character Level)
Adds 5 - 30 Fire Damage
-24% to Enemy Poison Resistance
20% Deadly Strike
Prevent Monster Heal
+2 to Mana after each Kill
+13 Life after each KillSo, thanks, @maxicek, @zemaj, @Fruit and @NanoMist!
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my pro strats to get sander's:
Roll a normal map (LK, bazaar, etc.) which has armor racks that drop caps. Takes like 20 mins after you find a quick, reliable one, since sets are so common.
edit: and it doesn't take long to get such a rack since you're only in normal!
Roll a normal map (LK, bazaar, etc.) which has armor racks that drop caps. Takes like 20 mins after you find a quick, reliable one, since sets are so common.
edit: and it doesn't take long to get such a rack since you're only in normal!
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@srrw @pharphis
Thanks for the help. Running around looking for armor racks is something I have never bothered with any time so I guess Sander is the right character to start with (Sanders folly, so he can do whatever silly thing there is to stay in character).
Nokoz, collecting the infernal tools set and the nokozan relic amulet, had the insane luck to find his cap when running for runes from the normal countess! What a stroke of luck, not only with the caps elusiveness but finding the right set one as well!
Thanks for the help. Running around looking for armor racks is something I have never bothered with any time so I guess Sander is the right character to start with (Sanders folly, so he can do whatever silly thing there is to stay in character).
Nokoz, collecting the infernal tools set and the nokozan relic amulet, had the insane luck to find his cap when running for runes from the normal countess! What a stroke of luck, not only with the caps elusiveness but finding the right set one as well!
@Caralis Try a Hydra/FO sorc. Hydra is great for scouting, and the two skills together mass kill everything. It's a nice safe sorc build. One of my guardians is a Hydra/FO (twinked a bit though, but early stages so not hugely twinked), if you want to see some skill set-up etc (see link in signature).
@Kitteh i love Hydra/FO sorc, i have one on SC.
My problem lies on playing WAY to fast. After i deeded my first sorc i wanted to do a fast recovery Sorc (fully twinked, blizz sorc) just to take the bitter taste. And well, that didn't work so well...
I have a Trapsin at act1 Hell. I will reroll another blizz sorc and i will play both chars together. Just to be forced to slow down my game.
No matter the continuous rips im enjoying HC very much.
My problem lies on playing WAY to fast. After i deeded my first sorc i wanted to do a fast recovery Sorc (fully twinked, blizz sorc) just to take the bitter taste. And well, that didn't work so well...
I have a Trapsin at act1 Hell. I will reroll another blizz sorc and i will play both chars together. Just to be forced to slow down my game.
No matter the continuous rips im enjoying HC very much.
Ripping is a part of HC 
If you play HC, then you (generally speaking) have to accept that you need to play a bit differently if you want to stay alive, which is usually the aim. Some risks are just not worth it in HC, that you might regularly take in SC.
If you play HC, then you (generally speaking) have to accept that you need to play a bit differently if you want to stay alive, which is usually the aim. Some risks are just not worth it in HC, that you might regularly take in SC.
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@zemaj
I'm not sure exactly how WW in 1.14 finds and picks targets, but it for sure is not necessarily the closest target. If that had been the case, there wouldn't be a problem.
We typically factor in chance to hit when we calculate DPS, but you can more or less do the same with range. As a WW barb you often whirl crowds/packs, and not just single monsters, so losing range essentially means losing chance to hit, lowering your DPS.
I mean, if lowering your range causes you to whiff 10% of your attacks, that's essentially 10% DPS you lost.
But you're right though, it isn't really an issue unless you are using a weapon with 0 or 1 rangeadder, and as you said it's a tricky thing to measure. But it's something to consider, still.
@zemaj
I'm not sure exactly how WW in 1.14 finds and picks targets, but it for sure is not necessarily the closest target. If that had been the case, there wouldn't be a problem.
We typically factor in chance to hit when we calculate DPS, but you can more or less do the same with range. As a WW barb you often whirl crowds/packs, and not just single monsters, so losing range essentially means losing chance to hit, lowering your DPS.
I mean, if lowering your range causes you to whiff 10% of your attacks, that's essentially 10% DPS you lost.
But you're right though, it isn't really an issue unless you are using a weapon with 0 or 1 rangeadder, and as you said it's a tricky thing to measure. But it's something to consider, still.
I only deed when I'm questing. For the exact same reason you've deeded both your sorcs
I'm the opposite. My deeds are heavily weighted towards doing dumb **** because I get complacent during end game.
Also, today I learnt that the eyes of the statues beside Hadriel follow you. How are there still things that I don't know about this game
I just checked and you're right! WowAlso, today I learnt that the eyes of the statues beside Hadriel follow you. How are there still things that I don't know about this game
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