[2006] Obsession Tournament [by Wolron]

Grisu · Jun 17, 2020

waflob said:
Naab said:

Other skills i didnt mention because they have to many synergies.
Any opinions what to choose?

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One of my first thoughts on this was to make a fireclaw bear, as this makes the decision making very easy with respect to skill choices. Basically, there won't be any as there are lots of synergies (4 I think - can't remember exactly).

All you need here is a relatively fast weapon and you should be ok. AR will be an issue, but a blessed aim merc could help.

Just a thought - I never claimed it was a good one

DelBoy

ps - if I had to make another char, I would certainly take a looksie at a throw barb. 40 pts for throw + double swing synergy, 20 for throw mastery and then the rest in BO - sounds like a plan ?

Grisu · Jun 17, 2020

OneFromBeyond said:

Code:

ALIVE
Score Character      Class         Forum Name      Level  Act    WP
 33   Paul           Druid         Naab            25     A2     AS
 31   BrassMonkey    Paladin       waflob          20     A2     Lut Gholein
 27   Clobber        Barbarian     Wolron          20     A2     Lut Gholein
 21   FoulKrack      Zon           Saucy           16     A2     Lut Gholein
  6   PosadnutaAma   Amazon        Kugel           12     A1     Cold Plains
  6   Obsessive      Assassin      OneFromBeyond   10     A1     Cold Plains
  1   HoldYourColour Assassin      Tartanasia       1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Clean_Hands    Assassin      JoeBruce         1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Ned            Paladin       'poops           1     A1     Rogue Camp
  
DEAD/RETIRED
Score Character      Class         Forum Name      Level  Act    WP

Obsessive completed the second Quest and so earned herself another 2 points and is up to level 10 now. I gambled myself a LR belt, so now my equipment consists of a weapon, shield, helm and belt. I also found a few charms that are usable but nothing major.

This is a lot of fun for a tournament!

*OneFromBeyond

Grisu · Jun 17, 2020

Wolron said:
Naab said:

what about Poison Javelin?It's got only 2 skills to max and does decent damage and then you can complete your 3nd obsessive skill too(prolly pierce or penetrate).If you get so far ofcause.

@wolron what are your plans weapon wise?

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My plan is to find the best 1 handed, multisocketed whacker that I can. I will not have much dexterity unless my equipment gives me some. I am using strength for one point on every level. I may have to settle for a Truncheon, but a tyrant club would be better if I can get enough strength.

Of course there are always unique items to find. If I am lucky enough to find one, an Earthshaker Battle Hammer would be nice! (but I would have to socket it and put a perfect ruby in it.) Even something as common as Crushflange would be welcome at this point.

Grisu · Jun 17, 2020

Wolron said:
waflob said:

sorry to bug you with more questions, but I really don't want to foul up and have to retire ...

Here's an example of something that is unclear to me. If, for the sake if argument, I'm using zeal as my first obsession skill and I find a sceptre with +1 to zeal and +1 to (say) holy fire. Can I use the holy fire aura on the weapon ? The +1 to zeal makes the weapon valid, but what about the use of other skills that the item may have.

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You can only use your three obsession skills. In this case, holy fire cannot be used unless you are also obsessing on it in the other skill tree.

Grisu · Jun 17, 2020

Hrus said:
I thought about joining this one, but the rules are too obsessive for me :wink3:
Anyway, the tourney was added to the Tournament List sticky.

Good Luck everyone.

Grisu · Jun 17, 2020

erics said:
Wolron, If I obsessed in teleport do I have to max lightning mastery even though it doesn't effect tp? I wouldn't think so, but I want to make sure before I join.

Grisu · Jun 17, 2020

Sir Lister of Smeg said:

Since Erics seems to want to kill a sorceress first, the necromancer is the only one still missing, so I'll go with one.

Name: Nerullan
Class: Necromancer
Obsession skill: Raise Skeleton
Obsession attribute: Vitality
Obsession element: Poison

Code:

ALIVE
Score Character      Class         Forum Name      Level  Act    WP
 33   Paul           Druid         Naab              25     A2     AS
 31   BrassMonkey    Paladin       waflob            20     A2     Lut Gholein
 27   Clobber        Barbarian     Wolron            20     A2     Lut Gholein
 21   FoulKrack      Zon           Saucy             16     A2     Lut Gholein
  6   PosadnutaAma   Amazon        Kugel             12     A1     Cold Plains
  6   Obsessive      Assassin      OneFromBeyond     10     A1     Cold Plains
  1   HoldYourColour Assassin      Tartanasia         1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Clean_Hands    Assassin      JoeBruce           1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Ned            Paladin       'poops             1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Nerullan       Necromancer   Sir Lister of Smeg 1     A1     Rogue Encampment  
DEAD/RETIRED
Score Character      Class         Forum Name      Level  Act    WP

Grisu · Jun 17, 2020

Quickdeath said:
I will try this one, although I wonder if the play will get tedious. :undecided:

Name: StaticBabe
Character: Sorceress
Skill obsession: Static Field
Damage Obsession: Lightning
Attribyte: Vitality

erics said:

Wolron, If I obsessed in teleport do I have to max lightning mastery even though it doesn't effect tp? I wouldn't think so, but I want to make sure before I join.

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Yep, same question. Given I use Static Field, I assume I don't need to max Lightning Mastery as a synergy, because LM has no impact on Static Field Damage. Is that correct? If I do need to max LM then I'll take a mulligan and restart with a different build.

Static Babe has now pounded the snot out of everyone in the Blood Moors and Den of Evil with her staff and just gotten Static Field.

Code:

ALIVE Score Character Class Forum Name Level Act WP 33 Paul Druid Naab 25 A2 AS 31 BrassMonkey Paladin waflob 20 A2 Lut Gholein 27 Clobber Barbarian Wolron 20 A2 Lut Gholein 21 FoulKrack Zon Saucy 16 A2 Lut Gholein 6 PosadnutaAma Amazon Kugel 12 A1 Cold Plains 6 Obsessive Assassin OneFromBeyond 10 A1 Cold Plains 4 StaticBabe Sorceress Quickdeath 7 A1 Cold Plains 1 HoldYourColour Assassin Tartanasia 1 A1 Rogue Camp 1 Clean_Hands Assassin JoeBruce 1 A1 Rogue Camp 1 Ned Paladin 'poops 1 A1 Rogue Camp 1 Nerullan Necromancer Sir Lister of Smeg 1 A1 Rogue Encampment DEAD/RETIRED Score Character Class Forum Name Level Act WP

edit: whoops, we've just had three posts that were nearly simultaneous. I updated the table for Sir Lister, I hope erics will update for both of us.

Grisu · Jun 17, 2020

erics said:

Forum name: erics
Character Type: Sorceress
Character Name: Tal_Theressa
First Obsession Skill: Static Field (shamelessly stealing Quickdeath's Idea)
Elemental Obsession: Cold
Attribute Obsession: Vitality

Um, yeah, the first 26 levels will be maddening :shocked:

Code:

ALIVE
Score Character      Class         Forum Name      Level  Act    WP
 33   Paul           Druid         Naab              25     A2     AS
 31   BrassMonkey    Paladin       waflob            20     A2     Lut Gholein
 27   Clobber        Barbarian     Wolron            20     A2     Lut Gholein
 21   FoulKrack      Zon           Saucy             16     A2     Lut Gholein
  6   PosadnutaAma   Amazon        Kugel             12     A1     Cold Plains
  6   Obsessive      Assassin      OneFromBeyond     10     A1     Cold Plains
  4   StaticBabe     Sorceress     Quickdeath         7     A1     Cold Plains
  1   HoldYourColour Assassin      Tartanasia         1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Clean_Hands    Assassin      JoeBruce           1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Ned            Paladin       'poops             1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Tal_Theressa   Sorceress     erics              1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Nerullan       Necromancer   Sir Lister of Smeg 1     A1     Rogue Camp    


DEAD/RETIRED
Score Character      Class         Forum Name      Level  Act    WP

Grisu · Jun 17, 2020

moiselvus said:

I'm going to join

(I'm RRM/RWM, you said RWM is allowed, RRM too, or?)

Forum name: moiselvus
Character Type: amazon
Character Name: karmesha
First Obsession Skill: valk
Elemental Obsession: lightning
Attribute Obsession: Vitality

Code:

ALIVE
Score Character      Class         Forum Name      Level  Act    WP
 33   Paul           Druid         Naab              25     A2     AS
 31   BrassMonkey    Paladin       waflob            20     A2     Lut Gholein
 27   Clobber        Barbarian     Wolron            20     A2     Lut Gholein
 21   FoulKrack      Zon           Saucy             16     A2     Lut Gholein
  6   PosadnutaAma   Amazon        Kugel             12     A1     Cold Plains
  6   Obsessive      Assassin      OneFromBeyond     10     A1     Cold Plains
  4   StaticBabe     Sorceress     Quickdeath         7     A1     Cold Plains
  1   HoldYourColour Assassin      Tartanasia         1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Clean_Hands    Assassin      JoeBruce           1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Ned            Paladin       'poops             1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Karmesha       Amazon        moiselvus          1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Tal_Theressa   Sorceress     erics              1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Nerullan       Necromancer   Sir Lister of Smeg 1     A1     Rogue Camp

EDIT: i think the table should be like this :S

Grisu · Jun 17, 2020

erics said:

update

Code:

ALIVE
Score Character      Class       Forum Name        Level   Act    WP
 33   Paul           Druid       Naab               25     A2     AS
 31   BrassMonkey    Paladin     waflob             20     A2     Lut Gholein
 27   Clobber        Barbarian   Wolron             20     A2     Lut Gholein
 21   FoulKrack      Zon         Saucy              16     A2     Lut Gholein
  6   PosadnutaAma   Amazon      Kugel              12     A1     Cold Plains
  6   Obsessive      Assassin    OneFromBeyond      10     A1     Cold Plains
  4   StaticBabe     Sorceress   Quickdeath          7     A1     Cold Plains
  1   HoldYourColour Assassin    Tartanasia          1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Clean_Hands    Assassin    JoeBruce            1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Ned            Paladin     'poops              1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Tal_Theressa   Sorceress   erics               1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Nerullan       Necro       Sir Lister of Smeg  1     A1     Rogue Camp    
  1   Karmesha       Amazon      moiselvus           1     A1     Rogue Camp

DEAD/RETIRED
Score Character      Class       Forum Name        Level   Act    WP

Question: Since +resist all works for the elemental question would +all skills or skill tree work for obsessed skill choice?

Grisu · Jun 17, 2020

Sir Lister of Smeg said:

Code:

ALIVE
Score Character      Class       Forum Name        Level   Act    WP
 33   Paul           Druid       Naab               25     A2     AS
 31   BrassMonkey    Paladin     waflob             20     A2     Lut Gholein
 27   Clobber        Barbarian   Wolron             20     A2     Lut Gholein
 21   FoulKrack      Zon         Saucy              16     A2     Lut Gholein
  6   PosadnutaAma   Amazon      Kugel              12     A1     Cold Plains
  6   Obsessive      Assassin    OneFromBeyond      10     A1     Cold Plains
  4   StaticBabe     Sorceress   Quickdeath          7     A1     Cold Plains
  4   Nerullan       Necromancer Sir Lister of Smeg  6     A1     Cold Plains    
  1   HoldYourColour Assassin    Tartanasia          1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Clean_Hands    Assassin    JoeBruce            1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Ned            Paladin     'poops              1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Tal_Theressa   Sorceress   erics               1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Karmesha       Amazon      moiselvus           1     A1     Rogue Camp

DEAD/RETIRED
Score Character      Class       Forum Name        Level   Act    WP

Nerullan reached the Cold Plains waypoint after clearing the Blood Moor and the Den of Evil. He's so far going naked except for the wand he got as starter weapon. I did keep some socketed weapons for him, but of course he did not find anything to socket them with, yet.

Grisu · Jun 17, 2020

zarfen said:
Hmmm, might join this one. Prolly a MA zon or a hammerdin (going conc. => hammer)
1.Just some clarifications, we cannot use the synergys right? nor the preq's. Lets say I max valk. I cant use decoy or slow missile?
2.We cannot use + skill items unless the precise obsession-skill is listed on it?
3.If I decide to obsess pierce, I will have to put at leat 1 pt in penentrate and critical, and since they are poassive I just got a nice boost in form of crits and AR, is that allowed?
4.Say my obsession is fire, I can use +all res as a qualifying mod, that would help upping all resists =)
5. Can we max out the synergys in and random order (lets say I obsess fireball, can I put 5 in firebolt and then 10 in firemastery then 15 in meteor and then go back to firebolt?)?

As for my plans, I never really cared for hammerdins, so probably a MA zon ma is really making the earlygame a joke, so easy its ridiculous once it gets no manacost.
The problem is the other obsessions, I'm tempted to go poison and massing psnsmg, but that might be hard to get my hands on however, with no twinking or rerunning, and good light.res is appealing. Also, dex is prolly the way to go, seeing that penentrate is unreachable due to the wellneeded valktank (which will by ints synergys also give you nice crit and D/A/E), and for the damage, 1 pt per level will go into vit or str, so I can survive/wear any gear.

Anyway, nice tourney wolron, tricky to start nm/hell though, having to take of all your normal/exceptional items

I'll be updating when I start my char.

Grisu · Jun 17, 2020

erics said:

Code:

ALIVE
Score Character      Class       Forum Name        Level   Act    WP
 33   Paul           Druid       Naab               25     A2     AS
 31   BrassMonkey    Paladin     waflob             20     A2     Lut Gholein
 27   Clobber        Barbarian   Wolron             20     A2     Lut Gholein
 21   FoulKrack      Zon         Saucy              16     A2     Lut Gholein
  6   PosadnutaAma   Amazon      Kugel              12     A1     Cold Plains
  6   Obsessive      Assassin    OneFromBeyond      10     A1     Cold Plains
  4   StaticBabe     Sorceress   Quickdeath          7     A1     Cold Plains
  4   Nerullan       Necromancer Sir Lister of Smeg  6     A1     Cold Plains    
  1   HoldYourColour Assassin    Tartanasia          1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Clean_Hands    Assassin    JoeBruce            1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Ned            Paladin     'poops              1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Karmesha       Amazon      moiselvus           1     A1     Rogue Camp

DEAD/RETIRED
Score Character      Class       Forum Name        Level   Act    WP

I'm dropping out already

I'm not going to have enough time to be competitive.

Grisu · Jun 17, 2020

moiselvus said:
@ wolron: I can use chancxe to cast a non-obsessive skill, right?
and what about aroua when equipped. (if i can find amn, edge would make a great weapon for the build I'm planning...)

~moiselvus

Grisu · Jun 17, 2020

pwangsta said:
Let's see how fast I can kill this build off:
Class: Paladin
Skill #1: Holy Shock
Element: Lightning
Stat: Vitality

Grisu · Jun 17, 2020

Naab said:
Chose fissure as my second obsession skill.It isnt a cookiecutterish skill,but its a lot better then just whatching merc jab everything to death.Thanks to Fissure i got through act 2 and 3 fairly fast, but the problems began in act 4 where monsters have alot more hp and exspessialy pit and venom lords were big troublemakers.In the end i managed to kill them,but the real challange came in form of Diablo. He always killed my merc and oak sage very quickly and i couldnt tank him without Oak, so i had to "spam"(stupid castdelay:banghead: ) fissure on him and run at the same time.The battle took 10 mins but i won.(On p3 btw).Now on to act 5.

Btw does anyone know the prefix which spawns on clubs and gives +1 to all druid skills and which lvl i hve to be to camble 1?

Points

WP's - 3*9+3+1=31
Quests - 2(3*6+3)=42
Bonus - None
Total - 73

Code:

ALIVE Score Character Class Forum Name Level Act WP 73 Paul Druid Naab 33 A5 Harrogath 31 BrassMonkey Paladin waflob 20 A2 Lut Gholein 27 Clobber Barbarian Wolron 20 A2 Lut Gholein 21 FoulKrack Zon Saucy 16 A2 Lut Gholein 6 PosadnutaAma Amazon Kugel 12 A1 Cold Plains 6 Obsessive Assassin OneFromBeyond 10 A1 Cold Plains 4 StaticBabe Sorceress Quickdeath 7 A1 Cold Plains 4 Nerullan Necromancer Sir Lister of Smeg 6 A1 Cold Plains 1 HoldYourColour Assassin Tartanasia 1 A1 Rogue Camp 1 Clean_Hands Assassin JoeBruce 1 A1 Rogue Camp 1 Ned Paladin 'poops 1 A1 Rogue Camp 1 Karmesha Amazon moiselvus 1 A1 Rogue Camp DEAD/RETIRED Score Character Class Forum Name Level Act WP

Grisu · Jun 17, 2020

OneFromBeyond said:

Naab said:
Btw does anyone know the prefix which spawns on clubs and gives +1 to all druid skills and which lvl i hve to be to camble 1?

http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/magic/pre.shtml gives "Shaman" and Level 30

Obsessive has found her way to the Stony Field.

Code:

ALIVE
Score Character      Class       Forum Name        Level   Act    WP
73   Paul           Druid       Naab               33     A5     Harrogath
31   BrassMonkey    Paladin     waflob             20     A2     Lut Gholein
27   Clobber        Barbarian   Wolron             20     A2     Lut Gholein
21   FoulKrack      Zon         Saucy              16     A2     Lut Gholein
  7   Obsessive      Assassin    OneFromBeyond      12     A1     Stony Field
  6   PosadnutaAma   Amazon      Kugel              12     A1     Cold Plains
  4   StaticBabe     Sorceress   Quickdeath          7     A1     Cold Plains
  4   Nerullan       Necromancer Sir Lister of Smeg  6     A1     Cold Plains   
  1   HoldYourColour Assassin    Tartanasia          1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Clean_Hands    Assassin    JoeBruce            1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Ned            Paladin     'poops              1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Karmesha       Amazon      moiselvus           1     A1     Rogue Camp

DEAD/RETIRED
Score Character      Class       Forum Name        Level   Act    WP

Grisu · Jun 17, 2020

Wolron said:
zarfen said:

Hmmm, might join this one. Prolly a MA zon or a hammerdin (going conc. => hammer)
1.Just some clarifications, we cannot use the synergys right? nor the preq's. Lets say I max valk. I cant use decoy or slow missile?
2.We cannot use + skill items unless the precise obsession-skill is listed on it?
3.If I decide to obsess pierce, I will have to put at leat 1 pt in penentrate and critical, and since they are poassive I just got a nice boost in form of crits and AR, is that allowed?
4.Say my obsession is fire, I can use +all res as a qualifying mod, that would help upping all resists =)
5. Can we max out the synergys in and random order (lets say I obsess fireball, can I put 5 in firebolt and then 10 in firemastery then 15 in meteor and then go back to firebolt?)?

As for my plans, I never really cared for hammerdins, so probably a MA zon ma is really making the earlygame a joke, so easy its ridiculous once it gets no manacost.
The problem is the other obsessions, I'm tempted to go poison and massing psnsmg, but that might be hard to get my hands on however, with no twinking or rerunning, and good light.res is appealing. Also, dex is prolly the way to go, seeing that penentrate is unreachable due to the wellneeded valktank (which will by ints synergys also give you nice crit and D/A/E), and for the damage, 1 pt per level will go into vit or str, so I can survive/wear any gear.

Anyway, nice tourney wolron, tricky to start nm/hell though, having to take of all your normal/exceptional items

I'll be updating when I start my char.

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(1) Yes, you are correct. Only the three obsession skills can be used.
(2) Well, almost. You cannot use any item unless one of your obsessions is mentioned (element, attribute or skill). For the skills, the exact skill must be mentioned. Not the synergies. You can use an item with +skill that is not your obsession skill if the item has your element or attribute mentioned on it. However, you could not use that skill because it is not one of your obsession skills. {Note: CTC skills are ok, as long as the item can be worn due to one of your obsessions being mentioned on it}
(3) yes, some passive skills will come into use (legitimately) because you had to put a point into them as a prerequisite.
(4) Yes, + resist all and + all attributes will qualify an item for use.
(5) Yes, there are no rules on the order of the synergy point applications. But, you cannot go on to your next obsession skill until all synergies are maxed.

Grisu · Jun 17, 2020

Wolron said:
erics said:

Wolron, If I obsessed in teleport do I have to max lightning mastery even though it doesn't effect tp? I wouldn't think so, but I want to make sure before I join.

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The rule on sorceress masteries being a synergy should only apply to skills that do elemental damage. That would mean that the following obsessions would not have to max out the mastery skill:
Frozen Armor
Teleport
Energy Shield
Warmth
STatic Field

Note: Static Field does damage, but that damage is not changed by Lightning Mastery.