Seems like the forums are working for me again. I could reach them, but did not see any changes all weekend. Yesterday at work i couldn't even reach it. And the post i made yesterday after work got eaten it seems.
Post of yesterday summarised: We got a new coffee machine at work and it sucks.
Obviously. They were looking for Nix' house.
So how feminist are you?
The 50's? That's for a large portion still happening. Especially in the Netherlands where most women work parttime. Men work fulltime for household. Women work parttime to socialize a bit and generate some cash so they can do fun stuff on their days off.
Over here there's even debates going on about getting quota's. Apparently there should be minimal like 30% women in the boards of big compagnies. Which basically means men would be discriminated. Besides that it's weird that this only should go for board rooms, i mean where's the quotum for women working to pick up garbage or jobs like that? Or a minimum number of male nurses?
Besides that there's the discussion that women feel they're not getting paid the same as men for doing the same job. While i'm sure that would hold truth in many countries, almost nothing of that is true over here. Yes women do make less on average. However if you take into account all kinds of factors like the fact that about 90% (i could be wrong about the exact %, but it was really high) of the women that have a job here work parttime and they're often quitting work for a few years after getting a kid and their preference to do a 'fun' job rather than working in a well paying industry then suddenly that huge gap in pay has shrunk to 1 or maybe 2%. Sure that should be zero, but it's nowhere near as big as some people would have us believe.
Other than that i feel that if feminists would really want to be treated equal it should no longer mean 'women and kids first' in case of something like a sinking Titanic (i saw some comedian make a good joke about that, but i can't seem to find it right now), it should mean that women also ask men out on dates (it happens, but not normally), it should mean that it's not standard that men pick up the check after a dinner (i mean: why else are we paying women equally for?), it should mean...well i can go on, but you get the point.
Post of yesterday summarised: We got a new coffee machine at work and it sucks.
Maybe they got the wrong house.
Obviously. They were looking for Nix' house.
I knew in advance it would disappoint me and it did. It was laced with loaded questions painting women (and only women) as great victims in the western world of oppression by men (and only men). It even had questions like "Sometimes I feel like I need to be around people who share my feminist ideals" which I can only imagine alludes to the "safe space" attitudes I've noticed come to attention at colleges/universities when people are so threatened by ideas (yes, ideas!) that they need to be coddled.
So how feminist are you?

One question that gave me a good laugh was (paraphrased) "I think things were better in the 1950s when women were housewives and their husbands supported them".
Uh, who in their right mind thinks things people were better off when medicine, education and just about everything was worse in the 1950s?
The 50's? That's for a large portion still happening. Especially in the Netherlands where most women work parttime. Men work fulltime for household. Women work parttime to socialize a bit and generate some cash so they can do fun stuff on their days off.
I saw this the other day, I thought you might like it.
I am not anti-feminism at all, but the cartoon does sum up some modern feminists.
Over here there's even debates going on about getting quota's. Apparently there should be minimal like 30% women in the boards of big compagnies. Which basically means men would be discriminated. Besides that it's weird that this only should go for board rooms, i mean where's the quotum for women working to pick up garbage or jobs like that? Or a minimum number of male nurses?
Besides that there's the discussion that women feel they're not getting paid the same as men for doing the same job. While i'm sure that would hold truth in many countries, almost nothing of that is true over here. Yes women do make less on average. However if you take into account all kinds of factors like the fact that about 90% (i could be wrong about the exact %, but it was really high) of the women that have a job here work parttime and they're often quitting work for a few years after getting a kid and their preference to do a 'fun' job rather than working in a well paying industry then suddenly that huge gap in pay has shrunk to 1 or maybe 2%. Sure that should be zero, but it's nowhere near as big as some people would have us believe.
Other than that i feel that if feminists would really want to be treated equal it should no longer mean 'women and kids first' in case of something like a sinking Titanic (i saw some comedian make a good joke about that, but i can't seem to find it right now), it should mean that women also ask men out on dates (it happens, but not normally), it should mean that it's not standard that men pick up the check after a dinner (i mean: why else are we paying women equally for?), it should mean...well i can go on, but you get the point.