Wolfbarbs-The ultimate guide (Revised verson)

IIDX said:
wanted to see if anyone feels like pking on nl uswest...of make some officail wolfbaba pk game/tourny

That made me extremely happy to hear, I wish i could join you but. Im on USEast.

Dr@kE~
 
Hmm i am very interested in this build and after checking this weapon speed calculator :

http://students.washington.edu/akrinke/wereformadvanced.html

It seems even a 35ias Grief PB allows wolfbarb to hit 5fpa feral rage - is this confirmed? After looking at uniqs, r/ws and sets i have found these out:

Upped Shael Crainte Vomir Legend Sword : 4fpa
Shael Horizon's Tornado Scourge: 4fpa
Shael Sazabi Cryptic Sword : 5fpa
Upped Shael eth Ginther's Rift Phase Blade: 4fpa
Shael Stormlash Scourge : 6fpa
Oath Phase Blade : 4fpa
EBOTD Warspike : 5fpa
2*Shael IK Maul : 7fpa :P
105ias Tomb Reaver Cryptic Axe : 5fpa

Would you recommend any of these for PvM? Also do Shapeshift GCs/items boost the wolf skills? Thanks in advance :D
 
Crap forgot the 'disadvantage' section of your guide so +druid and +druid tabs do not increase shapeshift level :( Oh ya just obtained a wolfhowl and tested on my WW mf barb and he used an eth 'Oath' BB. The feral rage calculations in that link seem ok to me as i was sinking my paws on hell eldritch and that looked like 6fpa feral hehe. Wow not a bad AR too :D Gonna be levelling my new wolfbarb and great guide Zero-Unit :D Lastly when using shields - do wolfbarbs retain %block rates of barbs or druids btw?
 
Well Batuchka, those frames your reading there are not correct. A 35% IAS Phase will only give you 7 frames. As far as the weapon listings, of all I would recomend the EBoTD Warspike for PvM. Also for the shield % blocking, you still retain your Barbarian block levels. Nothing changes the Barbarian part you only added another class. Werewolf and Werebears are a class of their own, however some things are inehierited by th forms.

(When using the calculator be sure you use this, 1.10, Barbarian, normal attack, werewolf, the amount of base speed the weapon has (they use + as the faster speeds.) then then put in a level 21 werewolf skill level.)

Dr@kE~
 
Hmm there is a note stating that calculations for feral rage are 'approximations' by the creator but i got to those frame rates by plugging 'feral rage' instead of normal attack and the level of werewolf according to the amount of +skill i have on the wolfbarb :P Thanks for enlightening me on the shield issue as druids have worst blocking rates than barb *whew*
 
IIDX said:
wanted to see if anyone feels like pking on nl uswest...of make some officail wolfbaba pk game/tourny

I'm on uswest......LYCAN-MWC.

Btw Zero....8K+ life...geez...that is awsome :thumbsup: ...wow!!
 
Hey Zero...I was thinking :scratch: ......

What about a Fury PB......speed would be 70%...10% faster than my EBOTDWSpike....and....we would hit 100% OW....which would increase the dmg :idea: . I saw a dmg table by Rikstaker(hope link works), and the Fury/Fort set-up was tops.....maybe that set-up w/ our high life will bring us atop the melee ranks??? :king:
 
jokermwx said:
I'm on uswest......LYCAN-MWC.

Btw Zero....8K+ life...geez...that is awsome :thumbsup: ...wow!!
my friends wolfbaba reached 11k life after prebuff, but it has medicore defense/ar 14/16.

my wolf baba only has ~8k life after prebuff.

ill be on some time in the evening.
 
Sorryfor the delay. Personally I have never treid the Fury set ups however from past experiences with fury's in 1.09 I have to say its a formidable weapon. The bonus damage modifiers that it comes with is great, however I feel you will be getting alot more out of an Azurewrath.

It takes quite a bit to gain such high life while maintaining a great setup, I mainly went the vitality route and stuck with much much life charms and accesories.

Dr@kE~
 
sorry if this question has been answered already (but im at page 50 and it will take me awhile to finish...lol)

does frw items/charms help me in wolf form? to chase people down? should i be saving these charms?
 
garion said:
sorry if this question has been answered already (but im at page 50 and it will take me awhile to finish...lol)

does frw items/charms help me in wolf form? to chase people down? should i be saving these charms?

Yes they help, but it depends what for. If your going to be chasing casters/runners/or Amazons that would be a good way to go, but for the most part it's nothing special.

Dr@kE~
 
Zero-unit said:
Yes they help, but it depends what for. If your going to be chasing casters/runners/or Amazons that would be a good way to go, but for the most part it's nothing special.

Dr@kE~

=) excellent, i would like to chase down some of my roomies =)....not sure if i can catch a hammerdin (no tele) but im going to guess after sometime he will start trying vigor/charge to get away to spawn hammers.....just wanted to make sure i can get him =)...

this has been my secret project that i really wanna "unleash" on them ...lol

as of right now i need allot more work

need to upgrade my weapon (lightsabre----> azure?), would like to upgrade my wolfhowl (i think mine is something like 2-6/4/3 stats in the 9's), my ar is horrible against holyshield guys (around 5-6k i think...i just know i couldnt hit one of my online buddies last night 20% hit only) i very much need that angelic ammy....

also what would most people prefer to use? war travs? or goreriders?

i have draculs for OW already.....

also what would a phase blade ebotd be like ? (-30 base, -60 ias with botd)? not like i can make it this ladder season....but since i have commited to sword masteries....

also need to upgrade my whistans to a sshield

oh i do have another question....wh should you socket items with? (helm, shield)? pruby in helm for 38 life? etc....

also wouldnt it be better to switch to a headhunters with 3 pdiamonds against casters? for massive resists? i mean can you block elemental attacks? if not then i would probably save the ss against melee guys...

does SS dmg-reduce hammers from hammerdins? or spears from necs?

thanks again for the great suggestions and guide! (im on pg 60 now...lol)..sorry for all the pent up questions :D
 
garion said:
=) excellent, i would like to chase down some of my roomies =)....not sure if i can catch a hammerdin (no tele) but im going to guess after sometime he will start trying vigor/charge to get away to spawn hammers.....just wanted to make sure i can get him =)...

this has been my secret project that i really wanna "unleash" on them ...lol

as of right now i need allot more work

need to upgrade my weapon (lightsabre----> azure?), would like to upgrade my wolfhowl (i think mine is something like 2-6/4/3 stats in the 9's), my ar is horrible against holyshield guys (around 5-6k i think...i just know i couldnt hit one of my online buddies last night 20% hit only) i very much need that angelic ammy....

also what would most people prefer to use? war travs? or goreriders?

i have draculs for OW already.....

also what would a phase blade ebotd be like ? (-30 base, -60 ias with botd)? not like i can make it this ladder season....but since i have commited to sword masteries....

also need to upgrade my whistans to a sshield

oh i do have another question....wh should you socket items with? (helm, shield)? pruby in helm for 38 life? etc....

also wouldnt it be better to switch to a headhunters with 3 pdiamonds against casters? for massive resists? i mean can you block elemental attacks? if not then i would probably save the ss against melee guys...

does SS dmg-reduce hammers from hammerdins? or spears from necs?

thanks again for the great suggestions and guide! (im on pg 60 now...lol)..sorry for all the pent up questions :D

Griz Caddy is the best pvp wolfbarb weapon in my opinion, get it

stormshield can't be beat in terms of blocking and dr combo

you should not need a shield switch for casters, put a pdiamond in stormshield and use resistance charms

stormshield only reduces physical damage, hammers and spears are magical damage

Goreriders are a joke compared to war travs in pvp, regardless of class or build

2 ravenfrosts + highlords is the way to go for a well rounded pvp wolfbarb
 
Omikron8 said:
Griz Caddy is the best pvp wolfbarb weapon in my opinion, get it

2 ravenfrosts + highlords is the way to go for a well rounded pvp wolfbarb


really griz caddy (4 shaels) thats what -10 base with 60% via ias jewels +40%

versus

botd phase -30 base with 60%ias

not that i could make the botd...but wouldnt that be the weapon to go with if you were rich? since it seems faster....well at least the base portion of the weapon...im not sure what that translates into ias.....-20 difference...but the caddy has a 40% ias advantage here....

although the botd has a stunning 30 all attribues (is that 120 life? along with borders+sshpft)

but of course i would have to go with griz caddy on default, based on my budget :D
 
Nothing gets faster than a 4 Shael'd Grisworld's Caducues, well with a decent damage. The Caducues isn't for every one though, since it requires much support from damage modifiers. Now a 100% IAS Cadcucues will give you 5 frames (The breakpoint is really 95%.) a BoTD Phase Blade will give you 6 frames. Honestly you dont get a whole lot more damage from a BoTD Phase Blade(Max is like 190+ damage.) now in a case of a Berserker Axe that's different except those hit at 9 frames with really massive damage. (If you use a BoTD BA you might as well use Concentrate, same speed, less effort in a case of a Wolfbarb, much less damage for wolfs.)

Dr@kE~
 
jokermwx said:
Geez....wow :thumbsup: I want to see this. You must have a ton of 3/20/20's!!!

Friends Wolfbaba
His barb went with a very minimal str/dex stat point allocation and almost pure vit. It could reach full potential if it went with angelic, Rfrost, gores, and dracs combo.

My Wolfbaba
I've kept this character the same for the past year. It lacks in resistance, but once i've collected as many 20/11 resist charms it will be fine. Eventually im going to remake this wolfbaba so that it could be a WOLF: ww, con, or zerk variant.
 
Are any of you using Oak Sages? I ask because it's quite rare that I come across individuals with such high hit points.

Dr@kE~
 
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