Wolfbarbs-The ultimate guide (Revised verson)

kalesh said:
i have base life of 1807

battle order lvl26=118% inc in life=2132

warewolf lvl10 with 90% inc in life =1626

shouldnt be my full life be 1807+2132+1626=5565

but its only 4997

can somebody explain why.
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get a higher bo
get a higher werewolf buff

and i'm not sure about your calculations as i just build my dude and see what happens (sorta) but it looks right. your probably over looking something.

here's a small rundown on what i have:

5.7k life
39k ar
23k def
1.8k damage with the 4 sheal caddy.
using all the usual melee gear (dracs, angelics, dungos, archon duress, gores wolfhowl (no **** eh! lol) 4shael caddy and appropriate charms) and doing pretty good so far.

the trick is to war cry with the prebuff gear zero stated in his guide and you should be getting level 37 warcries. then, go and shift and continue with chaing over to your melee gear.

with those steps i get the life i get with (i believe) just under 60 in total life from charms.

so yeah. give it a try and see how that works. make sure you not overlooking anything.
 
i ve found out why my life is so less. now it 56xx .

vitality from valor, verdungu, and wolfhowl does not get boosted from bo and lycnth.

i wonder y zero said valor>most armors including stone.
those damn 43vit stat points only give 172 life even after
bo and lycno.

also steelrends with 185str seemed quite useless as 50ed
just inc damage my 50-150.IK gauntlets work better with 40 skill points.
 
I speak from past experience, Valor is not only here for HP, it helps but in more than one way. I really have not found any other armor better in my opinion except for Fortitude, but I use valor becuase of its defense capabilities, it adds to my skills meaning Feral rage, Iron Skin, Mace Mastery, and Natural resist. If you look at it that way its doing more than you think. It also covers my hit recovery which makes a big difference to me in play.

Steelrends are not usless, they help in a huge way, what other glove offers damage like that. That can apply to any build you use.

Dr@kE~
 
i said valor was not that useful bec the 4x points are not
really skill points.also 2skills factor only boosts weapon mastery and ferel rage.iron skin can be taken care by more armor provided by stone or duress and when u pk in normal
ur resistances r 75.

2skill points to weapon mastery wont inc dmg a lot infact its very less.
now i come to steelrends. 50inc i think just boost dmg by 100-200.
now they req 185str.
TOTAL str provided by valor build.i am assuming perfect gear which i dont have.
15str wolfhowl (i have 14/11/14 6/6/5 )
20str steelrend (i have 36ed 16str)
30str SS

which totals to 65
65+30(initial str)=95.
still u need 90 more stat points.now if u use ik gloves(provides 40 skill points)
or draculs u can save them.

now for a char of lvl85 u have 85*5+15(from lame tome)
skill points =440
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90to str which lefts u with 360 points.
u need 190 dex for 75% block rate (i have 60% at 160dex)
so u put 190-20(initial)+15(wolfhowl)+10(angelic) points in dex = 155.this lefts u with a mere 205 skill points for vitality.
also if u have 185str with steelrend and u press w for prebuff this will make them not usable bec ur str will be reduced to 165.this pisses me a lot so u need some more str gear of 20str.
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if u use IK gloves or draculs u will have i think around 280-320 points for vitality.(or perhaps more)
also war travellers boosts damage by (80-100) - (150+).
also they provide 10skill points of str.
so i think war travellers+duress can provide the inc in damage provided by steelrend and save a lot of skill points.
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also i think poison together with open wounds can be deadly as both stack as no of hits inc.
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oh i forgot to say thx to Zero for his great guide.
 
if u guys are still looking here...

very nice very nice guide
makes me wana make a wolfbarb...

but can u tell me how much your wolfbarb does or anyone can u tell me their wolfbarb's dmg/ar/defense?

thx :thumbsup:
 
Well, here is my take on the wolf barb. I had an odd assortment of gear laying around. Here are my results.

Base Stats:

Level: 90
Str: 86
Dex: 56
Vit: 368
Energy: 15

Damage: 864-1607
Attack rating: 12581
Defense: 11491
Block: 75
Life: 5811
Mana: 315

IAS(from gear): 75
FHR:20
FB:40

Unsure on frame rate for attacks...but it is pretty fast.
Gear:

Eth Perf Djinn Slayer (ZodShael)
Ummed Wolfhowl
Ummed Whistans Guard
Angelic Ring
Angelic Halo
Ravenfrost
Ethereal Zodded Titchthrow (ugraded twice)
IK Forge and Pillar
Nosferatu's Coil

No charms...at all right now.
My prebuff gear is same except two hoto's on switch. Those are my definate weak points besides mediocre defense. Appreciate comments on my choice of gear, Thanks

Rashaklaen


Edit:

Playing around with some charms over here. 40 3/20/20's brings my max damage to nearly 2200, my ar to 17k and my life over 8400...not horrible at all. With a maras, a +2 skill armor, and +1 skill rings for pre buffing and I am set..right?
 
hulla-hop said:
Eth tombreaver with dual ed/ias and zod will get to 4fps right? :s
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No, even with 3 Shael runes in it, it still gets 6 frames. Remember the wolf speeds aren't staple for every class. Now Rashaklaen, is this build for PvP or PvM? I'll give advice after knowing that.

Dr@kE~
 
Zero-unit said:
No, even with 3 Shael runes in it, it still gets 6 frames. Remember the wolf speeds aren't staple for every class. Now Rashaklaen, is this build for PvP or PvM? I'll give advice after knowing that.

Dr@kE~
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bleh, that sucks...what speed with 2xias jwls then?
 
Im surprised no one has mentioned usin druid style caddys, 3x4015 w/ ber or lo. Or have they? I skipped a big part of the mid section to get to the more updated replys. Although it would be a tad slower, it would offer more damage and better cb or ds, which are very powerful, especially CB. Im currently makin a build for my wolf barb this what i have in line

Close as P wolfhowl i can get, stats must be. (jahd)
Fort
3x4015 Ber Caddy
up gores
rends/bloodfist
dungos
Angelics or Hlords/ravens (leaning toward Hlords cause of the dex boost)
Jah/Shael ss depending on speed
32020s/vit ss/various ar/dmg/life lcs and gcs
prebuff: 2x hoto wolfhowl (possible sojs/bk) anni maras/hlords

*this of course is a pvp build
 
It has been mentioned, and it works fine. However the mojority of us like the speed which shines best on the Caducues, you might want to consider sticking a shael rune within your Stormshield. It makes a big difference in how other hit you and how your Wolfbarb responds, without Shael your block rate is 6 frames. It would also be wise to have a 42% FHR break from where ever provided, you come close to that a 5% FHR small charm should do the job. Also be aware the 5% life increase Jah rune will give will not be multiplied by Battle Orders or Lycanthropy. Other than that, its a pretty solid and good Wolfbarb there, just have a concern for attack rating.

On another note, the Crushing Blow mightbe more beneficial becuase the Deadly Strike and Critical Strike that comes from Masteries go through a formula of events which doesn't come out to the number as thought.

Dr@kE~
 
Thanks for the reply, at which point would sticking a shael in the ss be overkill? Because i know at some speeds, 4 frames on druid, that it would overblock and end up interrupting attacks. That may just be for fury though. Ar i got govered in charms hopefully, if not ill work that into gear.
 
My wolfbarb.

LV: 89 -- Getting to 90 for best OW effect.

Life: 7428
AR ~ 27K
Def ~ 32K
Dmg ~ 800-1000

Gear:

6/6/6 Eth Zoded Wolfhowl
+2 Eth 175%ed Valor Zoded
212%ed Gris Caddy (4xshaeld)
39/13 Dungo
Shaeled SS
10/15 Dracs
200% Upped Gores
Angelics combo

Buff gears:
Mara
2x Hoto
BK + SOJ
Arach

Drake, even though my stats are a little lower than yours. I can't seem to hit conc barbs and zealots. I kill a majority of the nub ones. But good ones I can't hit. I'm considering the Angelics + Hsarus combo. That would get me MAD MAD AR. But that would also sacrifice alot of LIFE + DR + OW + Defense. I'll try it out and let you all know if it's worth it.
 
The problem with concentrate barbs is that they already have a high natural defense, but also while they attack, their defense madly spikes up. My con. barbs has 37k def while attacking. The best thing you could do is sacrifice your boots and belt for hsarus + angelic combo. Not sure what you can do against a zealot.
 
I used Angelics + Hsarus combo and it boosted my AR up to ~31K. I really don't think it's worth it. You're sacrificing 15% of DR. That's ALOT. Not to mention the OW from Gores, the Vita from Dungo.

...overall. The AR is very good, but really not worth it. With my set up, Hsarus gave me ~4K of AR. Boo.
 
Cookie, it doesn't take a boot and belt sacrifice to get 31k AR. As it is with just angelics I have close to 34k, your right such a sacrifice isn't worth it, Id'e never recomend it.

Dr@kE~
 
Zero-unit said:
Cookie, it doesn't take a boot and belt sacrifice to get 31k AR. As it is with just angelics I have close to 34k, your right such a sacrifice isn't worth it, Id'e never recomend it.

Dr@kE~
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Zero I have been here w/ ya man from the start....way back on pg 1. I have made 3. Can you pls post ur full gear...charms...etc. I'm not even close to your stats. I really want this build to work.
 
Very well then.

Vourius LVL:90

Strength:124
Dexterity:179
Vitality:232

Damage:743-1,568
Attack Rating:34,661
Defense:33,979
Life:8332

Gear-
Armor:2 skill Ethereal Zod 1.10 Valor
Helm:3/6/4/3/12/15/14 Ethereal Zod Wolfhowl
Ring1:Angelic Halo
Ring2:Angelic Halo
Amulet:Angelic Wings
Boots:200% Up'd Goreriders
Gloves:56%/17str Steelrends
Shield:Shael'd StormShield
Weapon: x4 Shael'd Grisworld's Redemption

Charms-
I know it's illegal to post these charms but~
x36 3/20/20 Small Charms
x1 3/20/5% FHR
18/16/7 Annihilus
17/19 Barbarian Hellfire Torch

Thats all to him.

Dr@kE~
 
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