The Untwinked Level 99 Progress Thread, Revenge of the 99ers

Updated the table for my level from 93 to 94 and added the fallen HC table back in here for posterities sake. I will probably end up using the Ancients quest when I get close enough for the XP bonus to get me to 95. In order for me to have a shot at 99 in a reasonable amount of time I must get more efficient. I really wanted to save that Ancients bonus as long as possible, and still might unless I get some better gear before I get to the point of using it for the next level. I am gonna read over the area run times thread again to see if anything else jumps out at me that I didnt notice already. My character still has all three respecs so there might be a build change at some point during the late level trudging. FO/FB does pretty good since I am so used to it, and landing a perfect Orb explosion is very satisfying, but a Lightning or Blizz Sorc has to be faster.

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Name          (C)            SC/HC    Class  Level/exp   Extended Stash  #of S/U   Grail/504   #of deaths  # of Hours
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zticazzy      Perkele         SC      Barb      99             No            -          -            -           -
Pb_pal        Eleanor         SC      Sorc      99             No         3068        437            5           -
NanoMist      Izuna           SC      Sin       99             No         5109        470            4         360
Neksja        Aura            SC      Paladin   98.50          Yes        8606        464            -           -
PhineasB      Mercy           SC      Sin       98.2           Yes           -        457           10           -
T72on1        Neverland       SC      Sorc      98             Yes        2190+?      446           13         260
hasuprotoss   Reina           SC      Sorc      97             Yes        1751        384            -           -
PhineasB      Hiatus          SC      Sorc      96             Yes           -        380           18           -
Tarantella    Tarasha         HC      Sorc      96             Yes           -          -            -           -
XyleneCyanol  Fishie          HC      Sorc      95             No            -          -            -           -
ThomasJohnsen xInTheBuffx     HC      Sorc      95             Yes           -          -            -           -
darkstarhub   Neptune         SC      Sorc      94             Yes           -          -            -           -
Reyz          Qty             SC      Sorc      93             No            -          -            -           -
Chaostar      Prairie         SC      Sorc      91             Yes         659        261           12         126
OldSoldier    Battleforge     HC      Pala      91             Yes           -        236            -           -
tokerdin      tokeress        SC      Sorc      91             yes           -          -            -           -
Southpaw      Njord           SC      Druid     90             Yes           -          -            -           -
Qwernt        CanbeOnlyBlizz  SC      Sorc      90             Yes           ?          -      Dont want to know
MercMan       Este            SC      Ama       90             Yes        1212        278            2      Classified
Me2Nik        Fugu            HC      Ama       90             Yes          80
PhineasB      Phaedrus        SC      Pala      90             Yes         292        162            9           -
BKC           Meteorbin       SC      Sorc      90             Yes           -          -            -           -
Lynchgrinch   Tattersail      SC      Sorc      89             Yes           ?        321         too many     lots
LiquidClear   Sally           SC      Assn      **             Yes         225          -            1           -
liquid_mage   zDadColdSorc    SC      Sorc      **             Yes           -        160            -           -
Zenigma       Ayura           SC      Barb      **             No            -          -            -           -
Neksja        Turirao         SC      Druid     87             Yes         191        124            5           -
Gladstone     Socrates        HC      Druid     86             ?             -          -            -           -
Zenigma       Gnosis          SC      Druid     86             No            -          -            -           -
Lord Molyb    Cruise_Control  SC      Necro     84             No          104         87           16          idk
Qwernt        AmaAgainstAll   SC      Sorc      81             Yes           -          -            -           -
Gambit        Mallenroh       SC      Sorc      81             Yes           0          0            0           0
Naturallog    Athos           HC      Barb      79             No           96         73            0           -
Jean Avila    SpeedAdict      SC      Ama       77             No            -          -            -          50
logo          Digimon         HC      Nec       76             Yes          85         65            0           -
TwentyMule    Rayne           SC      Sorc      76             Yes         195        140            ?           ?
Darke Rahl    Bells           HC      Ama       74             No           19          -            0
Vildecor      Celia           SC      Ama       59             Yes          52         43            0           -
ioupainmax    Durnik          SC      Paladin   52             Yes          50         42            -           -
Lord Molyb    Verisimilitude  SC      Ama       50             No           12          9            0         idk
Kitteh        Darozzo         HC      Druid     45             No            -          -            -           -
TrU           Henryk          SC      Barb      41             Yes           -          -           22          12
Gambit        Colossus        SC      Pal       39             Yes           0          0            0           0
Smancer       Smancer         SC      Necro     26             Yes           1          -            -           -
Ergroilnin    Erilinda        HC      Sorc      20             No            -          -            -           -


The Fallen
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Name (F)    Name (C)       SC/HC   Class   Level/exp   Extended Stash   #of S/U   Grail/504   #of deaths   # of Hours
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coju        NintyNine_orRiP HC      Sorc      81             Yes           -          0            0         a few
TwentyMule  Valus           HC      Barb      76             Yes           -          -            1           -
Tenecabo    OldShatterhand  HC      Druid     49             Yes           -          0            1           -
coju        fB              HC      Sorc      29             Yes           1          1            0           2
Kitteh      Verallus        HC      Druid     26             No          N/A        N/A            0          N/A
logo        Rolex           HC      Barb      21             Yes           0          0            0           1
 
@darkstarhub - I would definitely recommend going Blizzard. It's just insanely powerful and can plow the AT like nobody's business. It's also the preferred build for CS runs, so something to think about if you wanted to really make a run at those.

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As for me, well, here we go again.

I've been thinking about this for a while, and since the thread has recently had it's first birthday I figured that was the nudge I needed to start this silly project again. Why do it again you say? Well, as George Mallory famously said about Mount Everest; "Because it's there".

This time things will be a little different though. It will be melee, and it will be HC. Oh, and it will be a Beardin (eventually). Yes, that's right, a melee HC single-attack furry paladin. He WILL be using an extended stash though, so there's that. I fully expect to kill him before he even comes close to 99, but hey, stranger things have happened right? ;)

Enter Stevesy, the future Holy Shock Beardin. His journey will be slow, I'm sure it will be very painful at times, and will spend an inordinate amount of time in LK, but I hope you all can find it at least a little interesting. :)

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Just a quick start for him for now, he began his journey with a trip into the Den. A point in Holy Fire (and later Holy Freeze and a +1 Zeal Scepter) along with a trusty Fire Rogue took him easily through Act 1 to a face-off with Andariel The Merc didn't survive the fight (big surprise!), but Andy did give us our first S/U of the campaign.

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Act 2 began in the standard way with the purchase of a Prayer Guard. Once the cube was grabbed and some diamonds burned on a savage polearm Stevesy took up residence behind his merc and followed him through the desert. He his level 24 in the Arcane Sanctuary and officially began his career as a Holy Shock paladin (though the merc is still doing the killing). The Duriel fight was a tough one, as we lost the merc a good 5 or 6 times. Persistence paid off however and we were soon on our way to Kurast.

The jungles quickly dropped us a Tir which we used to make Steel in a Crystal Sword. It means we give up Zeal from the scepter, but honestly I HATE the mechanics of Zeal and am much happier just whacking away with normal attack (especially in HC). Stevesy noticed his cth was lacking, so we popped back to the desert and switched to a BA merc. Eventually (and I mean eventually) once we have an Infinity I'll switch him to Might for LIs but with only normal attack, AR will be a huge issue if I don't take BA with me. Things began to pick up now that Stevesy could hit things, and Sszark, Endugu and Stormtree all fell before a quick trip through the Sewers got us the last organ.

At this point Holy Shock is picking up some serious steam, so the rest of the trip to Meph was easy. He himself was a little tough. He killed the merc 4 or 5 times, but Stevesy was able to tank him decently and OW from his Steel sword eventually wore the big guy down.

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He's resting there for now having reached level 28. I'm not going to bother with the table just yet as his level will be changing dramatically over the next few sessions, but if he's still alive after Baal I'll officially add him in.
 
@Pb_pal I can't express how excited I am to see you entering with a second character. And a melee HC one nonetheless !!! I'll be following this with great interest !!!

Knowing you, and the fact that you already did a 99er, I'm pretty sure you have already given a lot of thought about endgame actually. So tell us: what's the plan? Endgame weapon, targets past 85+, ... ?

I can definitely see myself doing another one too, or starting another one before my Sorc has hit 99. If it weren't for my Sept, I'd probably already started another character. Not sure if I could bring it up to do another untwinked one though.

Anyway, good luck !!! But I'm pretty confident you'll do just fine.

O yes, @darkstarhub +1 to Blizz sorc.
 
@Pb_pal I can't express how excited I am to see you entering with a second character. And a melee HC one nonetheless !!! I'll be following this with great interest !!!

Knowing you, and the fact that you already did a 99er, I'm pretty sure you have already given a lot of thought about endgame actually. So tell us: what's the plan? Endgame weapon, targets past 85+, ... ?

Glad to see you're interested! I figured I may as well make it a weird one this time, I've got plenty of cookie-cutters I can level in the meantime. ;)

End-game leveling will almost certainly be exclusively Baal runs (Pit runs before then most likely). I'll try CS/Diablo too but I doubt with the whole "no-teleport-while-shifted" thing that it would not be efficient or comfortable. Nihl I *might* try, but it's quite scary in HC and suffers from the same problem.

As far a weapon, I've got a few options for the top end gear:
  • Grief PB - If I roll a perfect 40% ias it will get me 5fpa (5 attacks/sec)
  • BotD PB - the 60% ias gives it a 4 fpa (6.25 attacks/sec)
  • Grizz Caddy - Can also get this to 4 fpa If I roll 4 sockets and fill em with Shaels
The only really attainable one is the Grief, and with all the LK I have to do I'm hoping to score enough Lo runes to get a perfect roll. In the meantime I'll probably use a Crescent Moon, though I haven't given it much thought.

Rest of the gear is standard. Infinity, Enigma, Beast, Griffs (yeah right, probably a circlet of some kind), Exile/HoZ, Arachs, etc etc.

Gameplay plan?

Get to Hell and level a bit in the Pits and hopefully find some gear. MFing will be interesting with this guy, I'm kinda just hoping it will work itself out along the way :p. After that I will spend the foreseeable future in LK gathering rocks. Then Pits/Baal to finish it off. Sounds so easy when it's put that way...

I can definitely see myself doing another one too, or starting another one before my Sorc has hit 99. If it weren't for my Sept, I'd probably already started another character. Not sure if I could bring it up to do another untwinked one though.

I didn't think I'd do another either, but here I am. :rolleyes:

Anyway, good luck !!! But I'm pretty confident you'll do just fine.

Thanks, that makes one of us! ;)
 
@Pb_pal You, sir, are a brave man. I used a Dream Auradin for about 85 hours of an MFO running Baal... and hated it so much afterward I didn't use Zeal (or any other left-click exclusive skill) for years afterward. And probably never will again. But on the bright side you're making him a Werebear, which is my favorite thing in D2, so by all means go for it. :cool:

Did you run the numbers on his damage? Was just curious how he compared to other furry chars damage wise.
 
Oh my, a 2nd 99? I'll admit I've thought about it, but I can't commit to it. Memories of level 98 are still too fresh..
 
@Pb_pal You, sir, are a brave man. I used a Dream Auradin for about 85 hours of an MFO running Baal... and hated it so much afterward I didn't use Zeal (or any other left-click exclusive skill) for years afterward. And probably never will again. But on the bright side you're making him a Werebear, which is my favorite thing in D2, so by all means go for it. :cool:

Did you run the numbers on his damage? Was just curious how he compared to other furry chars damage wise.

I didn't do too much hard number-crunching, no. I did however take @Grape at his word that fuzzy paladins are both lethal and fun. I'm holding him entirely accountable if I have any difficulty whatsoever playing this character.

As far as other fuzzy characters, I didn't really check since the paladin seems like a clear winner due to being able to synergize his Holy Shock. The other option would be a Dream sorc, but I already have a 99er sorc so that was ruled out.

May as well look at the numbers now that I'm committed though. With +15 skills (doable I think; 8 skillers, enigma, crafted amulet, arachs and shield) a fully synergized HShock does ~1-8900k damage. So ~4450 average damage applied at 4fpa (6.25 attacks/sec) is 27-28k/sec before resistances etc. With -res from Infinity (and hopefully Griffs and a facet) non-immunes should hopefully melt decently. This is top-end of what I would expect to achieve, but dream big right? I chose Shock with Baal runs in mind, since lightning shines there.

I'll likely reach the 75 FCR breakpoint for teleporting on switch (35% Spirit, Arachs, and then either Griffons/+2pally, 20fcr circlet/Trangs gloves/fcr ring+ammy or some combination of that). 125 FCR is *technically* achievable, but not untwinked. I'd need 35% Spirit, Arach, Griffs, Trangs, a 10FCR ring and then at LEAST a +2 pally/15 FCR crafted amulet. Well, I guess I could carry a Hoto in the cube and switch it out to Beast when I get to where I'm going to free gear up, but that seems like a ton of trouble for a few saved frames. I'll see what happens when I get there I guess.

I'll just state now that I don't plan on this character being very fast. As mentioned before I have lots of cookie cutters I can run for uber fast leveling. This will be an extremely long-term project where I probably won't worry too much about min-maxing those runtimes.

EDIT: Also, DC got 3:30 Baals with his Tesladin. He had great equipment (no Enigma though) and mad skillz, but if I can come close-ish to that I'd be very happy.
 
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We are all hoping for a @Gripphon anywhere, since he helps us out so tremendously. So yeah, losing a Gripphon would really be terrible, since there is only one and one only. Have no fear though, there still is a Griffon to comfort us if it would ever happen.

Sorry, couldn't resist ;).

Congrats on the progress and the Vex. Try to get a CtA base asap, as the runeword will make your runs so much safer. Infinity makes a huge difference for a Lightning Sorc, so you might want to run LK or other areas in search for Sur or Ber runes.

Good luck !!

Haha, awful typo there :p Well my excuse therefore is, that I have never seen this word written before ingame in more than 10 years of me playing D2 :s

I´m actually thinking about doing a bit of LK again. I guess I need a break from Pindle, especially because I died there shortly after reaching 93 and lost about 50 runs of experience again.

My concerns though, is changing weapons twice per run and activating 3 different skills not quite an annoying task to do?
Also, since low level shouts have a pretty short duration, don´t I lose them often when I´m in the middle of a CS / Baal run for example?

For Infinity, I don´t want to use any mods and play it the way it´s intended, so no extended stash and no battle.net only runewords for me.


Congrats to @Reyz and @darkstarhub on the levels. I don't have much to add as far as leveling advice. I can't remember if you found a Ber yet, but CoH made a big difference for Hiatus. So maybe some time in LK if you're still missing that piece of gear.

I already made one and replaced my Viper. It´s a nice upgrade but unfortunately not something game-changing for me. Problem is also I couldnt use a SoJ or BK ring, because without being able to use a Spirit shield and not having a (good) fcr amu I would lose my 117 fcr breakpoint.


Congrats to all the others how where able to make some progress and good luck further! :)
 
I'm also thinking of doing LK again. Maybe try and farm up an Infinity or something. Also need crafting gear to re-craft a decent amulet. Don't know what I'll do for rings, may just gamble some.

I would be more saddened by the loss of the Griffon if I didn't have another one that was only slightly worse. Amazing luck on my end, for sure. I may end up actually swapping to lightning if I end up enjoying it and I can stand farming LK long enough for the requisite runes. But Blizzard has made it this far and it's really hard to turn down the sheer damage capabilities. And having to drink blue pots? Ugh!
 
This might be the luckiest character I've ever made. I had just gotten tired of trying to farm Countess for Mal and decided to go ahead and work my way up to Act 5 for the various skill point and resistances quest rewards. Just chugging through Act 4 and what do I see?

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I stared at it for a second thinking "no way, I'm just imagining it" before taking a screenshot and picking it up. Shortly thereafter (I had to do Hellforge and cube the Um I got from it) I made this:

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Of course the attack speed is irrelevant in a Phase Blade, so +394 damage is about as good as it gets. Guess I'm committed to this now, time to go back and farm Travincal for Enigma.

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Name          (C)            SC/HC    Class  Level/exp   Extended Stash  #of S/U   Grail/504   #of deaths  # of Hours
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zticazzy      Perkele         SC      Barb      99             No            -          -            -           -
Pb_pal        Eleanor         SC      Sorc      99             No         3068        437            5           -
NanoMist      Izuna           SC      Sin       99             No         5109        470            4         360
Neksja        Aura            SC      Paladin   98.50          Yes        8606        464            -           -
PhineasB      Mercy           SC      Sin       98.2           Yes           -        457           10           -
T72on1        Neverland       SC      Sorc      98             Yes        2190+?      446           13         260
hasuprotoss   Reina           SC      Sorc      97             Yes        1751        384            -           -
PhineasB      Hiatus          SC      Sorc      96             Yes           -        380           18           -
Tarantella    Tarasha         HC      Sorc      96             Yes           -          -            -           -
XyleneCyanol  Fishie          HC      Sorc      95             No            -          -            -           -
ThomasJohnsen xInTheBuffx     HC      Sorc      95             Yes           -          -            -           -
darkstarhub   Neptune         SC      Sorc      94             Yes           -          -            -           -
Reyz          Qty             SC      Sorc      93             No            -          -            -           -
Chaostar      Prairie         SC      Sorc      91             Yes         659        261           12         126
OldSoldier    Battleforge     HC      Pala      91             Yes           -        236            -           -
tokerdin      tokeress        SC      Sorc      91             yes           -          -            -           -
Southpaw      Njord           SC      Druid     90             Yes           -          -            -           -
Qwernt        CanbeOnlyBlizz  SC      Sorc      90             Yes           ?          -      Dont want to know
MercMan       Este            SC      Ama       90             Yes        1212        278            2      Classified
Me2Nik        Fugu            HC      Ama       90             Yes          80
PhineasB      Phaedrus        SC      Pala      90             Yes         292        162            9           -
BKC           Meteorbin       SC      Sorc      90             Yes           -          -            -           -
Lynchgrinch   Tattersail      SC      Sorc      89             Yes           ?        321         too many     lots
LiquidClear   Sally           SC      Assn      **             Yes         225          -            1           -
liquid_mage   zDadColdSorc    SC      Sorc      **             Yes           -        160            -           -
Zenigma       Ayura           SC      Barb      **             No            -          -            -           -
Neksja        Turirao         SC      Druid     87             Yes         191        124            5           -
Gladstone     Socrates        HC      Druid     86             ?             -          -            -           -
Zenigma       Gnosis          SC      Druid     86             No            -          -            -           -
Lord Molyb    Cruise_Control  SC      Necro     84             No          104         87           16          idk
Naturallog    Athos           HC      Barb      84             No          159        105            0           -
Qwernt        AmaAgainstAll   SC      Sorc      81             Yes           -          -            -           -
Gambit        Mallenroh       SC      Sorc      81             Yes           0          0            0           0
Jean Avila    SpeedAdict      SC      Ama       77             No            -          -            -          50
logo          Digimon         HC      Nec       76             Yes          85         65            0           -
TwentyMule    Rayne           SC      Sorc      76             Yes         195        140            ?           ?
Darke Rahl    Bells           HC      Ama       74             No           19          -            0
Vildecor      Celia           SC      Ama       59             Yes          52         43            0           -
ioupainmax    Durnik          SC      Paladin   52             Yes          50         42            -           -
Lord Molyb    Verisimilitude  SC      Ama       50             No           12          9            0         idk
Kitteh        Darozzo         HC      Druid     45             No            -          -            -           -
TrU           Henryk          SC      Barb      41             Yes           -          -           22          12
Gambit        Colossus        SC      Pal       39             Yes           0          0            0           0
Smancer       Smancer         SC      Necro     26             Yes           1          -            -           -
Ergroilnin    Erilinda        HC      Sorc      20             No            -          -            -           -


The Fallen
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Name (F)    Name (C)       SC/HC   Class   Level/exp   Extended Stash   #of S/U   Grail/504   #of deaths   # of Hours
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coju        NintyNine_orRiP HC      Sorc      81             Yes           -          0            0         a few
TwentyMule  Valus           HC      Barb      76             Yes           -          -            1           -
Tenecabo    OldShatterhand  HC      Druid     49             Yes           -          0            1           -
coju        fB              HC      Sorc      29             Yes           1          1            0           2
Kitteh      Verallus        HC      Druid     26             No          N/A        N/A            0          N/A
logo        Rolex           HC      Barb      21             Yes           0          0            0           1
 
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@Pb_pal Awesome! Best of luck!

And I'll totally take the blame when you deed that char. :D (if you can make a replica of Alyosha that is ;) ) Besides that, I fully believe you can make it all the way, given enough time. Have fun! :)
 
@Pb_pal -- Yes! Great to see another attempt, and so much style with this one. Safe journeys for Stevesy. I had a blast with my Beardin -- quite possibly the most fun of all the characters in my 7x7. Untwinked would be daunting, especially in HC, but I'm confident you'll make pull it off.

@Naturallog -- very nice progress. Good to see a melee build equip a Grief. Best of luck in the search for runes.

@hasuprotoss -- sorry to hear about the death and, worse, the loss of equipment. Ouch! Good job for taking it in stride and getting back right into the runs. Good luck on piecing together the replacement equipment!

As for me, I'll have an update later this week. With limited time due to trips and parents visiting, the Mercy and Phaedrus still have made some progress. Keep up the progress, everyone!
 
@Kitteh - Vanilla will be a cool challenge! Windy should be a good choice I think, they aren't TOO mana intensive other than spamming 'nados. By the time you're doing that you should be able to have a good mana pool and maybe some mpk items (plus CtA, since it's vanilla!). Lotsa life from Oak always helps. No matter what you choose, good luck!

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Alright, back at it with Stevesy!

Act 4 was interesting, to say the least. Holy Shock is more than capable right now, but Stevesy himself is becoming a touch more fragile than I'd like (probably has something to do with being in full MF gear...). We had a few scary moments with boss packs, but no tru NDEs just yet. Soon enough the duo had worked their way to, and killed, Izual. A quick trip to the HF got an El, and the path to Diablo was cleared safely (as long as we stayed away from Venom Lords, that is).

The fight with Diablo was.... horrific.

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Basically the strategy was to throw on Sanctuary, run in and try to proc the Open Wounds from his Steel sword before the merc got fried, and then commence a frantic mixture of hose-dodging, panic rejuvs, and getting the merc to chip away at D.

After about 6 merc deaths, a ton of NDEs for Stevesy, and a whole slew of town trips for healing and pot refills we eventually got him!

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Skewer of Krinitz is a great find (ITD) and I'm sure it will get some use to help with our ongoing AR issues.

Act 5 was a much smoother ride. The XP explosion and subsequent drastic improvement of Holy Shock meant that monsters simply melted and soon enough Anya was saved and the Ancients were killed with ease (on /p1, for safety). Through the WSK and Throne we went, and even waves 1-3 were speedily disposed of. Ventar's group was dangerous, and we had to be very careful of their fire. Seperating them into groups worked and soon they were dead too.

Lister was his dangerous self, so we backtracked out of the throne room and drew them out a couple at a time. The Baal fight was nothing compared to the Diablo fight. He only cloned himself once, so we just pateintly whacked him and let the merc get the final kill for the extra MF, getting us a Vipermagi[ss] to wear in NM.

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Stevesy made Destroyer at level 43, but will likely level up some before heading out into NM next time.
 
Great job @Pb_pal! Diablo untwinked with a melee based character is always scary. Glad to see that Stevesy made it. It's also good to see @Kitteh planning to give this another go. I'm not much help on build choices for Vanilla, although Windy makes sense for all the reasons noted.

As for me, how about a little update? Sure!

Mercy hit 98.4 last night. As noted in the RFL thread, she got to 98.25 before doing 9.5 hours of Cows in RFL Round 3. She also ran some Nihl along the way and hit 98.3 the Saturday after RFL ended. And she obviously made solid progress over the last week.

Here’s a run-down of the finds: Schaefer’s dropped before starting Cows, which was a grailer for her. Then she found another Stonecrusher, Vex, Gul and Gul during RFL Round 3, along with the Redeemer, a Cold/Die facet and Cow King’s Horns, which were grailers.

She had mixed in some Nihl runs with Cows, netting Mal #5 and Ist #2. She then was back to Nihl, settling on a two shrine map. My theory is the 15-whatever minutes more rerolling to find a perfect map would be at least a half million XP, and I doubt the optimal map will make that much XP up before I misclick and reset it :rolleyes:

Mercy finally found Iron Pelt (followed shortly by an Eth one), which was a grailer. Then came two more higher level grailers, with Spirit Keeper and a nice TC87, IK Soul Cage. Within 10 minutes on Thursday she found two Nightwings (one was +15% Cold damage, the other +13%), and then less than an hour later a Dragonscale.

Yesterday netted 12M XP, along with Sur #3, Steel Carapace (a grailer for her), SoJ (another grailer), and a Lo. Mixed in there was also a Fire/Die Facet, leaving only Cold/Level for facets in the grail. She also found her second Wisp Projector.

So she’s getting close to only TC3 and TC87 items left for the grail – only 4 exceptional uniques, 2 non-TC87 elite uniques, 3 unique ammys, Carrion Wind, and the facet (plus two Cow pieces) left. Still no rune higher than Sur though :( But here is the rune summary for 98.2 to 98.4:

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Sur
Lo
Vex (from Cows)
Gul x3 (2 from Cows)
Ist
Mal

She had a couple close calls along the way, oddly all of them were on the level with the WP – cursed, might/fanat Zakarumites or Moon Lords while teleporting. :eek: Worst one had ~900 HP left.

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Phaedrus is back in LK. He did a set of 50 runes found, with Lem the highest. The 4 Hels in that set went to rerolling the Spirit, without a 35: 27, 31, 28, 29. So that's close to 15 rerolls, with no luck so far.

One more death from getting stuck in hit recovery trying to pick up a charm with cursed boss pack in the hut.

He’s part way into the next 50 rune set, and he will probably be in LK until he finds 5 more Surs, unless he stumbles on some item upgrades. He might also go back to RoF runs for a change of pace. We’ll see.

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I’m optimistic Mercy could reach 98.5 by the end of next weekend or early the following week. Good luck to everyone else!

Table Update
Code:
Name          (C)            SC/HC    Class  Level/exp   Extended Stash  #of S/U   Grail/504   #of deaths  # of Hours
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
zticazzy      Perkele         SC      Barb      99             No            -          -            -           -
Pb_pal        Eleanor         SC      Sorc      99             No         3068        437            5           -
NanoMist      Izuna           SC      Sin       99             No         5109        470            4         360
Neksja        Aura            SC      Paladin   98.50          Yes        8606        464            -           -
PhineasB      Mercy           SC      Sin       98.4           Yes           -        468           11           -
T72on1        Neverland       SC      Sorc      98             Yes        2190+?      446           13         260
hasuprotoss   Reina           SC      Sorc      97             Yes        1751        384            -           -
PhineasB      Hiatus          SC      Sorc      96             Yes           -        380           18           -
Tarantella    Tarasha         HC      Sorc      96             Yes           -          -            -           -
XyleneCyanol  Fishie          HC      Sorc      95             No            -          -            -           -
ThomasJohnsen xInTheBuffx     HC      Sorc      95             Yes           -          -            -           -
darkstarhub   Neptune         SC      Sorc      94             Yes           -          -            -           -
Reyz          Qty             SC      Sorc      93             No            -          -            -           -
Chaostar      Prairie         SC      Sorc      91             Yes         659        261           12         126
OldSoldier    Battleforge     HC      Pala      91             Yes           -        236            -           -
tokerdin      tokeress        SC      Sorc      91             yes           -          -            -           -
Southpaw      Njord           SC      Druid     90             Yes           -          -            -           -
Qwernt        CanbeOnlyBlizz  SC      Sorc      90             Yes           ?          -      Dont want to know
MercMan       Este            SC      Ama       90             Yes        1212        278            2      Classified
Me2Nik        Fugu            HC      Ama       90             Yes          80
PhineasB      Phaedrus        SC      Pala      90             Yes         292        162            10           -
BKC           Meteorbin       SC      Sorc      90             Yes           -          -            -           -
Lynchgrinch   Tattersail      SC      Sorc      89             Yes           ?        321         too many     lots
LiquidClear   Sally           SC      Assn      **             Yes         225          -            1           -
liquid_mage   zDadColdSorc    SC      Sorc      **             Yes           -        160            -           -
Zenigma       Ayura           SC      Barb      **             No            -          -            -           -
Neksja        Turirao         SC      Druid     87             Yes         191        124            5           -
Gladstone     Socrates        HC      Druid     86             ?             -          -            -           -
Zenigma       Gnosis          SC      Druid     86             No            -          -            -           -
Lord Molyb    Cruise_Control  SC      Necro     84             No          104         87           16          idk
Naturallog    Athos           HC      Barb      84             No          159        105            0           -
Qwernt        AmaAgainstAll   SC      Sorc      81             Yes           -          -            -           -
Gambit        Mallenroh       SC      Sorc      81             Yes           0          0            0           0
Jean Avila    SpeedAdict      SC      Ama       77             No            -          -            -          50
logo          Digimon         HC      Nec       76             Yes          85         65            0           -
TwentyMule    Rayne           SC      Sorc      76             Yes         195        140            ?           ?
Darke Rahl    Bells           HC      Ama       74             No           19          -            0
Vildecor      Celia           SC      Ama       59             Yes          52         43            0           -
ioupainmax    Durnik          SC      Paladin   52             Yes          50         42            -           -
Lord Molyb    Verisimilitude  SC      Ama       50             No           12          9            0         idk
Kitteh        Darozzo         HC      Druid     45             No            -          -            -           -
TrU           Henryk          SC      Barb      41             Yes           -          -           22          12
Gambit        Colossus        SC      Pal       39             Yes           0          0            0           0
Smancer       Smancer         SC      Necro     26             Yes           1          -            -           -
Ergroilnin    Erilinda        HC      Sorc      20             No            -          -            -           -


The Fallen
Code:
Name (F)    Name (C)       SC/HC   Class   Level/exp   Extended Stash   #of S/U   Grail/504   #of deaths   # of Hours
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coju        NintyNine_orRiP HC      Sorc      81             Yes           -          0            0         a few
TwentyMule  Valus           HC      Barb      76             Yes           -          -            1           -
Tenecabo    OldShatterhand  HC      Druid     49             Yes           -          0            1           -
coju        fB              HC      Sorc      29             Yes           1          1            0           2
Kitteh      Verallus        HC      Druid     26             No          N/A        N/A            0          N/A
logo        Rolex           HC      Barb      21             Yes           0          0            0           1
 
I will add myself later as a part of this untwinked journey, even though my plan has nothing to do with 99, but something completely different. I wanna add myself in here because I'd like to share journey somewhere before I forget everything since I don't take notes, but rather will write it from my head.

Yesterday I started a new sorceress. My goal is to develop strong MF sorc from zero. By "strong" I mean she hits certain farming numbers quickly. My goal is to be more efficient farmer than AT sorc who hits 5 bosspacks in 35 seconds with 500 MF measured across 100 runs and to see how fast can sorc achieve that. With time I will see how hard of a challenge this actually is and might make it harder if needed, or easier if I fail to deliver.

Rules of development:
1. I'm not allowed to kill any act boss more than once
- it means no farming on Andy, Meph... no leveling on Baal either, though minions are allowed.

2. I'm not allowed to farm on Hell Pindle or Eldritch, or level on them.
- I leave other difficulties out of this since there I can't farm godly stuff obviously, but also I want to have access to NM Eldritch to level up reasonably fast. Though that is already done.

3. I'm allowed to farm on LK chests or any similar things to my liking
- obviously, if I ban myself LK, I'd be crawling to make a progress and journey would be too slow for my taste

I'm already on hell with her, but more on that later or tomorrow.
 
Random update on my not-quite-a-sept ragtag band of adventurers:

Sally, Level 90 Trap Assassin: benched for months due to being bored with her.

Jim, Level 77 Frenzy Barb: Pushed to Countess in Hell. Ran her once, for quest, very painfully... and decided I wasn't feeling him anymore. His next step was pretty much going to be farming Countess for Oath runes, and the PI ghosts, among other things, make running her very annoying. So... benched for a couple weeks.

Bliss, Level 77 Blizzball Sorceress: I don't have any of my old twinked chars/gear on this computer, but I was kind of craving getting to the more primary MF targets that we all know and love so I could actually start finding some cool stuff. So I pushed her through A1 Hell without any trouble and was doing the same in A2, although she died once trying to TP through the Claw Viper Temple. As a former HC player... I hate that. I was going to level up in AT a bit, but her Blizzard is super weak, she's super frail, her merc is super frail, and I hate the spell Blizzard anyways. I could respec her to a more powerful Blizzard build... but I don't want to burn respecs yet and I was going to hold onto the Fireball secondary at least until I hit Pindleskin, my preferred level up/starter MF target. So yeah, she's parked at Arcane Sanctuary until inspiration strikes me again and I push onward with her.

Bertha, Level 20 Lightning Spearzon... for now: I started this lady with the plan of being a Fend/Charged Strike Zon, but I've been having second thoughts. Thus far I've been a bit disappointed in her performance. (Yeah, Act 1 Normal and I've already made that kind of deduction) Pumped up Power Strike (or whatever the prereq for CS is called) to a point where it does what should be insane damage for this point in the game, but this lady seems to miss way more often than she should and mana burns up very quickly. She's rocking 11 MPK (lots of Tir rune farming) and it's still an issue. And one of my biggest pet peeves in this game is chugging blues, so she's taken a few days off. I think I want her to end up as a Frozen Arrow/Physical bow hybrid eventually anyways, ideally wielding a Faith and trying that out. But that's a long way and a lot of work away.

Larry, Level 66 Fissure/Grizzly Druid: This guy has been my primary focus the past week or so. The plan has been to quest/MF through NM with him as Fissure before respeccing to a Fury druid for hell once I get some gear. Well, he is now plowing through NM Eldritch with 232 MF on, finding absolutely nothing of even remote interest thus far on his adventures. I'm not sure how easily he'll be able to quest through Hell; good weapons are hard to find for SS druids and I don't have much in the way of supportive gear either. Plus finding a PI solution's going to be necessary. I always try and plan out Shapeshifting druids before giving up because they suck... But I want one to succeed so badly! Here's hoping Larry's luck picks up.

Russ, Level 1... Holy Freeze Pally?: Seeing Pb_pal take the plunge on the left-click exclusive Pally has inspired me to create my own, although he has not yet left the Rogue Encampment. I've always liked the look of Holy Freeze, as well as the idea of slowing everything around me to a crawl... plus the elemental damage seems like a decent idea for untwinked, although I don't know if he has any long-term use as a Holy Freezer. I was thinking about pushing him to A2 Hell as one before respeccing to the almighty Pharphis-a-din, and FoHing my way through the Ancient Tunnels. FoH looks kind of daunting to quest with, and I'm kind of impatient anyways.

???, Not-yet-born Necromancer: Creativity is great and all... but I'm pretty sure this guy's going to be your typical Skellymancer. The idea is to have a wide variety of chars to play, so I guess this guy can be my character in the group that lets me just play on Easy Street. As far as end game goes, I never really gave the telestomping Summoning Necro a chance, so maybe I'll one day try that out a bit more with this guy.

General Thoughts: So I'm realizing more and more that I'm kind of an idiot. I suspect I don't have nearly the patience for untwinked play that most of you do, but I continue to play this way anyways since I love the sensation of finding items that are actually useful for a change, instead of just throwing them into the stash to gather dust since I already have everything. I'm realizing more and more that... I pretty much like to kick ass when I play, so the slow grind to start off is a bit of a struggle. I really need to bite the bullet and push a couple of these guys through instead of dawdling around creating new guys. That being said, I think I'm off to start a new char, so...
 
I'm adding myself to table. Sorceress is only level 76 and I don't know when will I go further to level her up. She is hitting LK until CtA is made at least. Goal of my sorc is stated in this thread few posts before. I wanna make proper AT runner out of her, not going for 99. Ideally would be if I pay attention to all S/U items that dropped, but honestly there is just no way I'm gonna collect them all, so this data as well as grail data might not be shared at all. Even by now I didn't pick everything up because lol.

Normal:
I got pretty awesome maps for some running, though I didn't use them to my advantage.
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I did total of either 4 or 5 Countess runs, I already forgot. Anyway until I farmed runes for Stealth and Leaf, then I simply rushed through the game pretty much with stop of leveling on Rakinishu, Beetleburst and bigger stop on Eldritch. I went to Nightmare after level ~40 or something like that. I developed Fire Wall sorceress, but now she is Blizzard with Fire Wall backup. Fire Wall is too weak to be useful for now.

Nightmare:
Same old story, except now I rushed through the game to Lower Kuras where I rolled a simple 3 chest map 1 teleport away from the waypoint and did ~50 runs to farm Sol rune to make Insight. I got 2 bases for it while killing act 3 dudez. After that I leveled up on Eldritch up to ~58 or something like that before going to kill Baal.

After that I did 1 hour of cow running to farm 4 os sword for Spirit and some other stuff like 2 os shields, helms and such. In case someone misses Insight bases, I found 6 of those during 1 hour of cow running on p3. Average runtime was like 6 minutes...

Funny story, yet again:
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I tried to teleport to town, but couldn't do it even with extended teleporting. It's simply too far away!

Also some finds:
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Hell:

Took me 8 hours to get here as a level 63 and now plan was very simple. Run some nightmare cows to farm certain socketables and then do some leveling on Rakinishu and to also farm full rejuvs on him, and then gogogogo to LK farming. I gotta say nightmare cows are also good for leveling, they do give solid xp.

Act 3 was pretty annoying because I had map where I needed to get to Flyer Jungle through Marsh, and it was full of Gloams all the time. I rerolled maps because I kept dieing there and then rolled great map and just cruised through quests, though it wasn't easy. Solved quests, defeated Meph, got act 4 and then LK hunting could proceed.

It took me only 3 rerolls to roll this map:
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It is not ideal, but is it pretty solid. Strongest point of this map is it has 2 shrines along the way so I constantly upgrade my amethysts to perfect. Weak point of this map is it has ugly spawns, all huts are hosting bosspacks from time to time...

I started to run with 37 fcr breakpoints, but upon fcr ring drop I got to 63. Equipment I use is pretty OP, agreed:
Lore helm
Stealth armor
Spirit sword (26 fcr)
Splendor shield
plain fcr ring
some mana ring
some gloves
some boots

I'm collecting blue amulets and rings, rare gloves, circlets, boots, rings, amulets, all charms, all jewels, flawless gems, all runes, rare orbs sometimes, rare wands. Also am checking 2 shrines per run to upgrade amethysts. Measured runtime across 20 runs is 24.1 seconds, which means at average I shrine ~9 amethysts per hour of playing which is not bad. Pace will increase once I stop picking up all those things, but for now it is pretty cool to farm like this.

Now I'm 13 hours in total and ~2 hours of LK farming, found these things which is not awesome, but is cool since I have nothing.

Code:
Corpse Fist
Light Gauntlets
Defense: 10
Durability: 6 of 18
Required Level: 48
Required Strength: 45
Fingerprint: 0x1ab121de
Item Level: 80
Version: Expansion 1.10+
3% Mana stolen per hit
+15 to Dexterity
Cold Resist +17%
Fire Resist +11%
Poison Resist +20%
20% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Serpent's Large Charm of Life
Large Charm
Required Level: 41
Fingerprint: 0x36ad9dc9
Item Level: 80
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+14 to Life
+31 to Mana

Snake's Small Charm of Sustenance
Small Charm
Required Level: 24
Fingerprint: 0x863eb8f4
Item Level: 80
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+13 to Life
+12 to Mana

Ruby Jewel of Fervor
Jewel
Required Level: 31
Fingerprint: 0xa632d92a
Item Level: 80
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+15% Increased Attack Speed
Fire Resist +16%

Steel Grand Charm of Sustenance
Grand Charm
Required Level: 41
Fingerprint: 0x860728d4
Item Level: 80
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+125 to Attack Rating
+23 to Life

Ruby Large Charm of Sustenance
Large Charm
Required Level: 27
Fingerprint: 0xa36bdf60
Item Level: 80
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+18 to Life
Fire Resist +15%

Jade Small Charm of Fortune
Small Charm
Required Level: 20
Fingerprint: 0x6cf9e79e
Item Level: 52
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Poison Resist +9%
4% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Shimmering Small Charm of Life
Small Charm
Required Level: 25
Fingerprint: 0x5345b168
Item Level: 80
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+6 to Life
All Resistances +3

Um and Gul fo runes, I have over 100 pgems so far and thats pretty much it. Plan is to run LK to farm CtA and MF charms which I found some, but still nothing to make character from. I want to farm more life/mana stuff so I can hit AT comfortably at least. I definitely have to replace Stealth with something at some point, though I don't see that happening too soon unless I strike some major circlet with fcr. I also need to farm pretty much everything lol. And roll a better Spirit.


Table Update

Code:
Name          (C)            SC/HC    Class  Level/exp   Extended Stash  #of S/U   Grail/504   #of deaths  # of Hours
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
zticazzy      Perkele         SC      Barb      99             No            -          -            -           -
Pb_pal        Eleanor         SC      Sorc      99             No         3068        437            5           -
NanoMist      Izuna           SC      Sin       99             No         5109        470            4         360
Neksja        Aura            SC      Paladin   98.50          Yes        8606        464            -           -
PhineasB      Mercy           SC      Sin       98.4           Yes           -        468           11           -
T72on1        Neverland       SC      Sorc      98             Yes        2190+?      446           13         260
hasuprotoss   Reina           SC      Sorc      97             Yes        1751        384            -           -
PhineasB      Hiatus          SC      Sorc      96             Yes           -        380           18           -
Tarantella    Tarasha         HC      Sorc      96             Yes           -          -            -           -
XyleneCyanol  Fishie          HC      Sorc      95             No            -          -            -           -
ThomasJohnsen xInTheBuffx     HC      Sorc      95             Yes           -          -            -           -
darkstarhub   Neptune         SC      Sorc      94             Yes           -          -            -           -
Reyz          Qty             SC      Sorc      93             No            -          -            -           -
Chaostar      Prairie         SC      Sorc      91             Yes         659        261           12         126
OldSoldier    Battleforge     HC      Pala      91             Yes           -        236            -           -
tokerdin      tokeress        SC      Sorc      91             yes           -          -            -           -
Southpaw      Njord           SC      Druid     90             Yes           -          -            -           -
Qwernt        CanbeOnlyBlizz  SC      Sorc      90             Yes           ?          -      Dont want to know
MercMan       Este            SC      Ama       90             Yes        1212        278            2      Classified
Me2Nik        Fugu            HC      Ama       90             Yes          80
PhineasB      Phaedrus        SC      Pala      90             Yes         292        162            10           -
BKC           Meteorbin       SC      Sorc      90             Yes           -          -            -           -
Lynchgrinch   Tattersail      SC      Sorc      89             Yes           ?        321         too many     lots
LiquidClear   Sally           SC      Assn      **             Yes         225          -            1           -
liquid_mage   zDadColdSorc    SC      Sorc      **             Yes           -        160            -           -
Zenigma       Ayura           SC      Barb      **             No            -          -            -           -
Neksja        Turirao         SC      Druid     87             Yes         191        124            5           -
Gladstone     Socrates        HC      Druid     86             ?             -          -            -           -
Zenigma       Gnosis          SC      Druid     86             No            -          -            -           -
Lord Molyb    Cruise_Control  SC      Necro     84             No          104         87           16          idk
Naturallog    Athos           HC      Barb      84             No          159        105            0           -
Qwernt        AmaAgainstAll   SC      Sorc      81             Yes           -          -            -           -
Gambit        Mallenroh       SC      Sorc      81             Yes           0          0            0           0
Jean Avila    SpeedAdict      SC      Ama       77             No            -          -            -          50
logo          Digimon         HC      Nec       76             Yes          85         65            0           -
TwentyMule    Rayne           SC      Sorc      76             Yes         195        140            ?           ?
Gripphon      Ryu             SC      Sorc      76             Yes           -          -         over 9k       13
Darke Rahl    Bells           HC      Ama       74             No           19          -            0
Vildecor      Celia           SC      Ama       59             Yes          52         43            0           -
ioupainmax    Durnik          SC      Paladin   52             Yes          50         42            -           -
Lord Molyb    Verisimilitude  SC      Ama       50             No           12          9            0         idk
Kitteh        Darozzo         HC      Druid     45             No            -          -            -           -
TrU           Henryk          SC      Barb      41             Yes           -          -           22          12
Gambit        Colossus        SC      Pal       39             Yes           0          0            0           0
Smancer       Smancer         SC      Necro     26             Yes           1          -            -           -
Ergroilnin    Erilinda        HC      Sorc      20             No            -          -            -           -


The Fallen
Code:
Name (F)    Name (C)       SC/HC   Class   Level/exp   Extended Stash   #of S/U   Grail/504   #of deaths   # of Hours
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
coju        NintyNine_orRiP HC      Sorc      81             Yes           -          0            0         a few
TwentyMule  Valus           HC      Barb      76             Yes           -          -            1           -
Tenecabo    OldShatterhand  HC      Druid     49             Yes           -          0            1           -
coju        fB              HC      Sorc      29             Yes           1          1            0           2
Kitteh      Verallus        HC      Druid     26             No          N/A        N/A            0          N/A
logo        Rolex           HC      Barb      21             Yes           0          0            0           1
 
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