Mafia Game: Cheers/Frasier Theme

[coju]

Damn... from glibby's linkys:

Almost nothing is known about Bebe's background.
She is a chain smoker, aggressive and unscrupulous, melodramatic, haughty, emotionally manipulative, duplicitous, and abusive.
She will go to extreme measures for her clients, and has been known to use bribery and blackmail,
and even the killing of animals (and possibly people) to achieve her aims
Her ethics have been said to be able to "raise eyebrows in the court of Caligula."
Frasier's brother Niles has described Bebe as "Lady Macbeth without the sincerity". Frasier himself describes her as having "no scruples, no ethics, and no reflection." Frasier and his family often liken her to Satan or to Frasier's ex-wife, Lillith

 

[flubbucket1]

Hmm pharphis, the doc who forgets the cop and saves himself, I would sleep with someone to get what I wanted,is that going too far to help Frasier?

You had better check the wind it could change direction, by the end of this day will you have voted for everyone? Looks like you are just trying to get a lynch on anyone but yourself.

Quoted for hypocrisy.......QFH??

N-1 Noodle
N-2 CG
N-3 Autti
N-4 franklin
N-5 Moar
N-6 Uraj
N-7 Pharphis

I can die in place of anyone that I choose to guard, the chance of dying is a coin-toss




If successful I would be dead, and again the lurking tag, my play is my play, game after game, lynch me for it.

You are quite the lucky boy to have survived this long. By your Lotto numbers soon....

@Laarz
Why didn't you protect ML?

Question....

When?



I thought that if he could still save someone and not himself I may protect him.



I'm dont remember all the reasons either,didn't write them down but I must have seen something that I liked at the time.

Coy and evasive answer.

What do you mean "When?"

Everyday since you found out he was the one needing protection.....oh wait, why would you do that??


Vote 1: Laarz

 

[pharphis]

Although it seems he is unlikely SK because of the 1 NK for awhile, it does seem an awful lot like he could just be plain ol' anti-town.

Laarz, I thought that sleeping with people to get what you want was the worst your role was willing to do, hmm?

 

[coju]

Although it seems he is unlikely SK because of the 1 NK for awhile, it does seem an awful lot like he could just be plain ol' anti-town.

...:sigh:
Nice blig!
Vote 1: Laarz

 

[pharphis]

...:sigh:
Nice blig!
Vote 1: Laarz

I don't know what you mean by "blig"

Also, I guess we can't really use v2 anymore successfully, can we?

Unvote 1: coju
Vote 1: Laarz

 

[Thyiad1]

Day 9 - 7 alive

Vote 1 - 4 to lynch, 5 to lock
Vote 2 - 7 to lynch

Vote 1:
coju 1 (Gwaihir)
Gwaihir 1 (Moar)
Laarz 3 (flubbucket, coju, pharphis)

Vote 2 :
Gwaihir 1 (Moar)


Vote

Spoiler

1684 - pharphis Vote 1: coju UNVOTED 1765
1684 - pharphis Vote 2: coju UNVOTED 1718
1696 - Moar Vote 1: Gwaihir
1696 - Moar Vote 2: Gwaihir
1718 - pharphis Vote 2: Gwaihir UNOVTED 1723
1735 - Gwaihir Vote 1: coju
1762 - flubbucket Vote 1: Laarz
1764 - coju Vote 1: Laarz
1765 - pharphis Vote 1: Laarz

 

[flubbucket1]

Although one NK is food for thought, I keep revisiting the SK thing because of math. Five mafia with the power to recruit seems more likely than six. This leaves room for a serial killer. Kills have been chosen or not, blocked or avoided, etc... so there are many possibilities. Just want to make sure we aren't being naive....too naive that is.

No deaths last night could mean the last mafia is dead and we are looking for an SK. Let's make sure we keep thinking and not just ASSuming.

Waiting on that "stump" claim.

 

[coju]

glib* .

 

[coju]

I don't know what you mean by "blig"

Also, I guess we can't really use v2 anymore successfully, can we?

Unvote 1: coju
Vote 1: Laarz

Why can't we? Only need 7 out of 9. Well, 8. In that case.

Vote 2: Nulio

 

[coju]

Vote 2: nulio

 

[Moar]

I agree with what flubb said. Though he might rather be the SK than mafia.
So far all scum were ex-spouses/spouses of main characters.

Daphne - Donny
Frasier - Lillith
Niles - Mel
Rebecca - Robin
Woody - Kelly

Bebe doesn't fit in there.

Unvote 1: Gwaihir
Vote 1: Laarz

 

[Moar]

Nulio should be modkilled anyway today, why not.

Vote 2: nulio

 

[Thyiad1]

Day 9 - 7 alive

Vote 1 - 4 to lynch, 5 to lock
Vote 2 - 7 to lynch

Vote 1:
coju 1 (Gwaihir)
Laarz 4 (flubbucket, coju, pharphis, Moar)

Vote 2 :
Gwaihir 1 (Moar)
nulio (coju, moar)

Vote

Spoiler

1684 - pharphis Vote 1: coju UNVOTED 1765
1684 - pharphis Vote 2: coju UNVOTED 1718
1696 - Moar Vote 1: Gwaihir UNVOTED 1771
1696 - Moar Vote 2: Gwaihir
1718 - pharphis Vote 2: Gwaihir UNOVTED 1723
1735 - Gwaihir Vote 1: coju
1762 - flubbucket Vote 1: Laarz
1764 - coju Vote 1: Laarz
1765 - pharphis Vote 1: Laarz
1770 - coju Vote 2: nulio
1771 - Moar Vote 1: Laarz
1772 - Moar Vote 2: nulio

 

[Moar]

Nulio should be modkilled anyway today, why not.

Vote 2: nulio

Should read: "..., but why not."
Ok, that is still somewhat confusing. What I meant is: ..., but why not try just in case Thy does not modkill him. The only way he could help the town is with posting since he can't vote. He doesn't post much.

 

[Moar]

I forgot to unvote, so I try again. Sorry for spamming!

Unvote 2: Gwaihir
Vote 2: nulio

 

[flubbucket1]

Let me squeeze in on this gurlz only page.

Vote 2: nulio

 

[Pyrotechnician1]

Decided to go through all the votes that were counted (this does not include votes that were unvoted, only those noted on the fist page), and found a couple nice little tid-bits.
These are our alive forumites:

   Name - # of votes that resulted in a lynch // separate votes
1. Moar - 3 townies /// 3 mafia            /// 1 separate
2. Pyrotechnician -1 townie /// 4 mafia    /// 1 separate
3. Gwaihir - 3 townies /// 4 mafia         /// 1 separate 
4. nulio - apparently cannot vote            - treestump?
5. pharphis - 2 townies /// 4 mafia        /// 1 separate
6. Laarz - 2 townies /// 3 mafia           /// 2 separate
7. flubbucket - 1 townies /// 4 mafia      /// 1 separate 
8. coju - 2 townies /// 4 mafia            /// 0 separate

I'll highlight the most townie by voting record:
(Town deaths)
Pyrotechnician - 1 townie dead because of vote
flubbucket - same as above

Neutral town killers:
pharphis - 2 townies dead because of vote
Laarz - same as above
coju - same as above

Killed the most town:
[highlight]Moar - 3 townies dead because of vote
Gwaihir - same as above[/highlight]

(Mafia deaths)
Pyrotechnician, Gwaihir, pharphis, flubbucket, and coju have all helped lynch 4 mafia.
Moar and Laarz have both helped lynch 3 mafia.

I'll let the y'all help decipher this data.

I didn't know I was so amazing. Anyway, very ineteresting data, but we also have to consider that a lot of the time we "forced" people into doing a vote 2 because if they didn't they would automatically be labeled as scum, it didn't really give someone much of a choice but to vote for their own, as we have seen multiple times.

Okay a couple of things.

First, thanks for the list/datamining coju. Moar and I were discussing voting last night because it was time to get back to basics.

Second, nulio hasn't officially claimed "treestump." I suggested to Moar (re:nulio) a non-voting serial killer and she cussed at me between swigs.

Third, Gwaihir's comment "Most reasonable explanation to me is that the drinks had something to do with it." makes me think there is more going on with this drink thing and I'm looking squarely at Pyro. I realize this flies in the face of coju's data, but I'm just getting a yin-yang vibe from this drink setup. I could be completely off and this drink thing could be a total randomizer...just seems unlikely.

Lastly, Laarz role lends itself well to serial killing. Here is a link worth reading..... http://frasier.wikia.com/wiki/Bebe_Glazer

Not sure what else to say regarding my role, I've told you everything that I know about it and there is no mention of what it does beyond choosing which liquor. Does it make mention anywhere in your role pm that it does anything other than being served to that person? Why do you think I would know more about it than you guys do.

Nulio should be modkilled anyway today, why not.

Vote 2: nulio

Was going to ask why we are wasting a vote on him if he should be mod killed anyway but I guess if you want to be sure, but a non voting SK? sounds a bit farfetched don't you think?

 

[Pyrotechnician1]

Also, this thread changed direction 180 degrees. How did everyone go from being convinced it was coju or Gwaihir to Laarz? Not that I'm complaining because his protection choices make no sense and have no backing in the slightest so he has by far the weakest claim.

 

[Laarz]

Leaving a couple of parts I find interesting


No, it doesn't hurt my correlations. A "non-voting serial killer," eh? That is very likely. Very 'out-there' modding. I like that. (If so, that puts a whole new twist on non-voting counterparts.)

I did find a whole lot on your third point. I only hope I still have them copied:
Guess not. I went though the pages 30-34 (40 post/page), and numerous times pyro/waiters are questioned about the drinks actually doing the killing. I still don't know who delivers, who spikes, who hands out, who etc., but it would make sense. The only notable affect I have noticed is ML's mis-investigation on Mal.

IIRC, Laarz was investigated, but only had a "PM Received" result. (IIRC, SK's aren't really 'outed' by investigations? IE: Player X investigates Player Y who is the SK. Player X doesn't receive a "Mafia" "foe" "sk" result, but something along the lines of "pm received" "unknown" "---". Know what I'm saying?)

Curious, very, why Moar would get upset at that matter...:scratchchin:

I dont remember anyone saying they checked me coju. Can you show me?

Also, this thread changed direction 180 degrees. How did everyone go from being convinced it was coju or Gwaihir to Laarz? Not that I'm complaining because his protection choices make no sense and have no backing in the slightest so he has by far the weakest claim.

Yes always lynch the weakest claim, at least it will give information and move the game along.

 

[Gwaihir]

No, it doesn't hurt my correlations. A "non-voting serial killer," eh? That is very likely. Very 'out-there' modding. I like that. (If so, that puts a whole new twist on non-voting counterparts.)

I did find a whole lot on your third point. I only hope I still have them copied:
Guess not. I went though the pages 30-34 (40 post/page), and numerous times pyro/waiters are questioned about the drinks actually doing the killing. I still don't know who delivers, who spikes, who hands out, who etc., but it would make sense. The only notable affect I have noticed is ML's mis-investigation on Mal.

IIRC, Laarz was investigated, but only had a "PM Received" result. (IIRC, SK's aren't really 'outed' by investigations? IE: Player X investigates Player Y who is the SK. Player X doesn't receive a "Mafia" "foe" "sk" result, but something along the lines of "pm received" "unknown" "---". Know what I'm saying?)

Curious, very, why Moar would get upset at that matter...:scratchchin:

What on earth happened to scum coju? You have seemed scummy to me for most the game, but now you seem to actually be trying to find scum. Huh.

Anyways a non-voting serial killer seems pretty unlikely to me. Also we have been having one kill for a very long time, and no kills last night. Seems pretty unlikely there are still 2 kills possible. But really, I don't see the harm on V2ing the only person who can really be lynched by it when that person has barely hit the 2 posts per day minimum.

Beyond that, when did Laarz receive a no result? As for normal gameplay, usually SKs return a result. Normally as anti-town, but sometimes as nuetral. But then again, in a game of 30, maybe Thy wanted to make it a bit easier on a SK?

Also, not following Moar upset comment, can you quote?

Although it seems he is unlikely SK because of the 1 NK for awhile, it does seem an awful lot like he could just be plain ol' anti-town.

Laarz, I thought that sleeping with people to get what you want was the worst your role was willing to do, hmm?

This seems to be the most likely thing to me.

Although one NK is food for thought, I keep revisiting the SK thing because of math. Five mafia with the power to recruit seems more likely than six. This leaves room for a serial killer. Kills have been chosen or not, blocked or avoided, etc... so there are many possibilities. Just want to make sure we aren't being naive....too naive that is.

No deaths last night could mean the last mafia is dead and we are looking for an SK. Let's make sure we keep thinking and not just ASSuming.

Waiting on that "stump" claim.

I could see 5 or 6 mafia, but there still seems to be the recruit that has not been accounted for. Maybe it just did not get used though.

Was going to ask why we are wasting a vote on him if he should be mod killed anyway but I guess if you want to be sure, but a non voting SK? sounds a bit farfetched don't you think?

Farfetched yes, but at this point why not try it? The attempt really can't hurt town at this point as nulio has not really helped town at all, and what else is there to do with the V2? No one will be voting themselves.

Anyways, I am happy with a Laarz lynch over coju, he has been suspicious to me for a while.

Unvote 1: coju
Vote 1: Laarz
Vote 2: nulio