City Mafia Game Thread

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Top three picks, today and today only. What happens to them between now and tomorrow will tell us a lot. Anyone else is fair game, especially the lurkers. I'd be more then happy to switch my vote off of BA and on to a lurker just to get a lynch.

What do you make of the first night kill being picker #4? Coincidence? Mafia out to frame you?

I do not agree with the role reveal because it is simply too easy to lie about it. It would garner no useful information, in my opinion.

Anyone could simply say, "I tried for the ninja and wound up VT."

What role reveal are you referring to?



 
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Feeling frustrated Ankeli?

Not really, no. Why? It was an honest mistake on my part. :)

I think kegs was the "obvious" NK for the mafia. Pickers 1 and 2 would likely be protected (or mafia even), and since everyone seems to think I picked a the stumpy they didn't dare to go after me. Kegs was next up.



 
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Might I just add that the SK has to kill every night, we assume the mafia would too. So one kill got lost during the way.
 
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Short answer why I didn't vote yesterday is because I didn't have any suspicions worthy of dropping the vote on. The whole Ninjagate debacle left Pyro and zemaj looking pretty bad, but I'm not sure Pyro wasn't just making newbie mistakes. As far as the rest of that went, I think Gwahir was following up on something that he thought was scummy, and coju wanted to be a ninja.

FWIW, when I logged on for the deadline, the thread was totally dead. There was a flurry of posts, that stopped about 20 minutes before the deadline.

Hypothetical question: If anyone was 1 vote shy of lynch when you logged on, would you have voted for them? Anyone who you WOULDN'T vote for in that situation?

I had a family situation that took me out of town yesterday.

If you weren't out of town yesterday, who would you have voted for? Who wouldn't you have voted for?

Might I just add that the SK has to kill every night, we assume the mafia would too. So one kill got lost during the way.

It's possible no one picked the SK. I'd be surprised considering the bulletproof benefits, but you never know unless someone reveals they tried to pick SK but got VT instead.



 
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Hypothetical question: If anyone was 1 vote shy of lynch when you logged on, would you have voted for them? Anyone who you WOULDN'T vote for in that situation?

Unless the person one shy was myself, I would have hammered them.


 
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I agree with Sathoris that we most likely lost a kill somewhere which is good.

I want to lynch asrrin as of right this minute. He kept pushing for my lynch yesterday and when I would counter-point his arguements I would see a post 2 hours lately stating almost exactly the same thing he posted before my counter argument probably without even reading them. It was just blind lynch will. That on top of his total personality change.

At first I did agree that it was because he's been lynched early the last two games, but IDK...people usually still play like themselves and he could be mafia.

Ill have to find the threads later about asrrin. Mighta been sticking up for Sathoris and after the heat was after him and me he was all for a lurker.
 
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...What role reveal are you referring to?

It was this general conversation between Sathoris and BadAsh.



Also: You're in favor of mass claiming if people are going to point out important aspects of this game...really? I'd love to hear how mass claiming would be a good thing. It would show EXACTLY who the mafia should target and why while they hide behind their roles without giving up the vital information that is their alignment....


 
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Short answer why I didn't vote yesterday is because I didn't have any suspicions worthy of dropping the vote on. The whole Ninjagate debacle left Pyro and zemaj looking pretty bad, but I'm not sure Pyro wasn't just making newbie mistakes. As far as the rest of that went, I think Gwahir was following up on something that he thought was scummy, and coju wanted to be a ninja.

FWIW, when I logged on for the deadline, the thread was totally dead. There was a flurry of posts, that stopped about 20 minutes before the deadline.

I think we all sort of felt that no one was really worthy of putting a vote on. I didn't think I was making terrible newbie mistakes, but I guess what do I know since it is my first game. How experienced are you in mafia games yourself? Even if the thread was totally dead, we were trying to gather up the votes to lynch a lurker, why didn't you at least put your vote in on that?

Might I just add that the SK has to kill every night, we assume the mafia would too. So one kill got lost during the way.

I thought from the first post that Goryani made that the SK had to kill on the first night, does that mean the SK has to kill everynight from then on as well? Unless nobody picked the SK, then one of the kills was blocked by a power, how it was blocked of course is unknown, but either way we were able to keep another person for at least one more day. Whats the possibility that no one went for the SK role especially with being bulletproof?

Unless the person one shy was myself, I would have hammered them.

So it didn't matter what the reason was, as long as you got a lynch it didn't matter? Even if you were to read back through posts and you had the feeling they were innocent? We were going for a lurker on day one at the end which is at least "some" reason to lynch them.


 
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I didn't think I was making terrible newbie mistakes, but I guess what do I know since it is my first game.

Ok, let's get specific real quick here. Yesterday, you advocated not lynching an anti-town role, and spoke about how you considered taking another role which would only be useful in and of itself with a mafia alignment (citing how you didn't mainly because you felt the power would be wasted if the opposing roles went unselected rather than say that you didn't take it because you didn't want to be a super-special vanilla). I am giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming for now that you advocated these very scummy positions because you aren't used to thinking of things as one does in a mafia game. By all means, prove me wrong if you want.


Even if the thread was totally dead, we were trying to gather up the votes to lynch a lurker, why didn't you at least put your vote in on that?

I didn't put my vote on it because it was well short of the needed votes, and nobody was posting anymore.

So it didn't matter what the reason was, as long as you got a lynch it didn't matter? Even if you were to read back through posts and you had the feeling they were innocent?

Yes, there is nobody in the thread at this time that I wouldn't have hammered at the end of the day yesterday (again, barring myself, of course).


 
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I advocated not lynching an anti-town role? Where throughout all of that did you pick that up? No where in there did I mention lynching or not lynching someone with a specific role and that doesn't even make sense because even if someone did have that role it wouldn't necessarily mean they were actually anti town. I think logically, and always think logically and choosing that role was not logical with an early pick. I didn't know I needed to change the way I think to participate in a game like this.

Because nobody was posting anymore doesn't sound like very good reasoning, so you were waiting for others to cast their vote first? Is that why it seemed that there were people here but no one stepped up, you were all just waiting for eachother? That just sounds odd considering you would have "hammered" anyone with or without reason.
 
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I agree with Sathoris that we most likely lost a kill somewhere which is good.

I want to lynch asrrin as of right this minute. He kept pushing for my lynch yesterday and when I would counter-point his arguements I would see a post 2 hours lately stating almost exactly the same thing he posted before my counter argument probably without even reading them. It was just blind lynch will. That on top of his total personality change.

At first I did agree that it was because he's been lynched early the last two games, but IDK...people usually still play like themselves and he could be mafia.

Ill have to find the threads later about asrrin. Mighta been sticking up for Sathoris and after the heat was after him and me he was all for a lurker.

Kept pushing for your lynch? I had all of about two posts regarding you. It's day one voting with no record and no information what so ever, and you expect me to just start shooting off at the mouth and being aggressive? Sounds real fishy to me.

I'd vote for you know, but I have a few higher priority targets. Namely Gambor and Goryani, and possibly Sathoris. All day today they've been doing nothing but fishing for power roles and hunting for the SK, both classic scum tells. They keep theorizing why we only had one kill, what happened last night, etc, like someone was expecting to have two kills last night. I'm convinced one of them is scum.

Vote: Goryani first, to make him talk, and then I'll work my way from there.


 
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That just sounds odd considering you would have "hammered" anyone with or without reason.

I would have hammered anyone with the reason that it would avoid a nolynch. The opposing hypothetical you gave me was if I had a "feeling" they might be innocent, a feeling isn't strong enough for me to chose to nolynch. The knowledge that it is highly unlikely that there are 4 other people just hanging around waiting for me to cast a vote is enough, obviously.


 
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...I think kegs was the "obvious" NK for the mafia...

I can believe this easily enough.

Might I just add that the SK has to kill every night, we assume the mafia would too. So one kill got lost during the way.

I'm not sure if we need day two to become a hunt for an alleged SK, much like day ones' ninja-gate...

Unless, of course, you are privy to some special information.


 
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Says something about the mindset of you people. I merely made that remark as a positive thing, not to derail our search for scum on a near impossible mission to find the SK on D2.
 
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It was this general conversation between Sathoris and BadAsh.

Just trying to understand you completely: Were you talking about a mass roleclaim or inferring the alignment of someone claiming cop, doc, etc?

I'd vote for you know, but I have a few higher priority targets. Namely Gambor and Goryani, and possibly Sathoris. All day today they've been doing nothing but fishing for power roles and hunting for the SK, both classic scum tells. They keep theorizing why we only had one kill, what happened last night, etc, like someone was expecting to have two kills last night. I'm convinced one of them is scum.

Vote: Goryani first, to make him talk, and then I'll work my way from there.

And I thought I had no trouble talking.

My one and only post "all day today" talking about a SK is to interrogate someone who was....wait for it....talking about a SK. If that qualifies as hunting for the SK, I guess you are oozing classic scum tells as well.

I've never theorized why we only have one kill. The only part implies I think there should have been more than one kill. I've theorized that one kill is the proper amount of kills because there is no evidence to suggest otherwise.

I've also not fished for power roles. I've put forth the idea that a very specific vanilla townie, if one exists, claim to shed some light for us. That very specific vanilla townie is someone who tried to pick SK but instead received VT. The VT can tell us if a SK exists and who CAN'T be the SK. The VT's claim can't help mafia find townie power roles because SK isn't townie. That person can help power roles determine if they had a hand in protecting someone targeted for a night kill (statistically more likely to be townie, but not guaranteed - SK can target mafia) or stopped a killer from killing (statistically more likely to be scum, but not guaranteed - townie vigi).

P.S. - Did anyone ever talk about the link/html for showing the post count of a thread?



 
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