Re: City Mafia Game Thread
Alright, I'll handle these one by one, I'm going to exclude quotes and just copy paste as it seems easier if thats ok:
Were you worried that choosing Hider would make you look scummy at role claim time?
What link(s) did you use to look up the hider/commuter?
No, I was not concerned with this as during role selection I sent CG a pm asking details about the role and he clarified that the role was actually a commuter (although known as hider) which is pro-town according to this site which I used for all of my role considerations:
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Commuter
Did you consider what would happen if a townie investigator tried to target you? If so, what did you conclude?
I'm assuming you mean the role-cop as the cop would only determine my alignment (which would be very helpful at a time like this). I considered this and if a townie role-cop had investigated me and then shared the results, as had happened here I would have confirmed his investigation and explained my reasoning. I figured as long as I explained by situation and didn't try to shrug it off/deny it/or call them an outright liar that it would be accepted as a role that was in fact useful to the town. I also figured a role-cop, if protown would be a bit more descrete with his findings rather than go HEY LOOK, HES THE HIDER, essentially outing himself in the process.
Why were you so afraid of being killed N1?
Being a new player, I wanted to try and last past the first day/night cycle to gain more experience in play while still securing a role that I thought to be useful to the town (and myself for that matter, who doesn't want nk immunity, no one can argue against having something like that). If you refer back to my previous post I go into further datail for chosing the role relating to my bid positoin and the likelyhood of being lynched on night one due to the belief of holding a power role.
Did you consider other roles which would let you be essentially bulletproof (bus driver, treestump)? If yes, what made you shy away from those roles?
I didn't choose busdriver as I would essentially be switching myself with another player, I didn't see it as right to in effect possibly switch myself with another possible townie just to save myself. Why sacrifice someone else when you can stop the kill completely. The treestump isn't really a "role" in my mind. Yes, you are immune, but only after you claim, and you have no voting power afterwards? I wanted to be able to participate and make voting decisions. If my vote power was going to be removed I didn't see myself enjoying the game as much from that point on.
Did you consider roles which would punish mafia for night killing you (bomb, party host, possibly restless spirit)?
The only one I saw as viable was the bomb. The party host, although neat doesn't really serve as much protection, and even if the people that visited you were displayed, if more than one person visited you that night then the actual killer would be a toss up most likely causing the lynch of a townie, as well as a mafia. Restless spirit sounded interesting, but I didn't think you were told exactly who killed you, so you would end up getting another day of guessing on who to vote for, overall it just didn't really sound all that helpful unless the vote would somehow turn the tide the next day. The bomb was definately a considered option as I would at least get payback on the killer, but I really wanted to participate in the game rather than just taking the death straight out of the gate.
How useful is the hider for mafia trying to avoid detection/investigation or to ensure night kills go through? Is there a better role in the list for those purposes?
To avoid detection/investigation? I'm not sure how the investigation information comes back, but I guess if it said investigation failed or something like that it would not be very helpful as the investigator/detector would know something is up, but if it comes back with a vanilla read, or a townie read then I would say it would be quite helpful as it would essentially clear them of suspician in a normal game. As far as night kills, I'm not sure how they function, I know that hiders can't perform night actions on the nights they are "away" so unless they had the kill power specifically I would assume the night kills would go through as normal because another mafiso would perform it? There are other roles on the list to avoid detection such as roleblocker and godfather, but they definately don't provide nightkill immunity (although of course mafia don't really have to be concerned about this except the SK).
If you saw someone else claim Hider, how would you go about determining the alignment of that player this game?
Me personally, knowing that they are hider wouldn't help me much as from the role descriptions, its normally a pro-town position, but of course this being a WIFOA game this means absolutely nothing. I guess I'm not sure why this seems like a really scummy role choice? How can picking a normally pro-town role and trying to play safe say scum all over it, and why is everyone following BA on this without much contest? I understand since he was correct on Asriin that he has much more credit at the moment then I do, but it shouldn't make this a follow the leader situation unless everyone else knows something that I don't.
As per rule #11, are you willing to post the role-thief role pm?
I am very willing to post the PM if necessary for confirmation, but I thought that meant only your "original" role pm. If CG can confirm that I can post the pm here and the rest of you feel its necessary then I will do so, similar to how I said I would post my original role PM if locked today as I would want the town to be able to continue discussion on other topics for the rest of the day phase.
Did your town change as a result of the role swap?
There was no mention of my city changing in the message stating my role as been stolen, so I'm assuming that it is still the same. Also, since stealing a role wouldn't change your alignment I would think it shouldn't have an effect anyway? I thought there may be some connection between cities and alignment but obviously that would be impossible to determine.
