Given my role, or lack thereof, I'm as good a random mislynch for the town today as anyone.
As far as not claiming today goes, that's pretty self-evident. Right now the scum know which town players are in a private QT with another town player, but they don't know the pairings (although if Sathoris is town he may have just clarified their picture).
With 14 people, the game began with 7 tables. If the pairings are completely random (which I believe they are ... need to check if that was specified or not), it is more likely that the scum are each partnered with a townie than not, which would mean that in all probability, three table pairings are already (or will be tonight) known.
Sathoris potentially just gave them a way to bust 2 of the possible 4 remaining town/town pairings by revealing his pairing (assuming that he's both town and was being honest with his claim). At this point the majority of the damage is done. The idea behind withholding the pairing info on day 1 and 2 is so the mafia cannot intentionally break up the mini-mason groups. If Sathoris was being honest, they can now kill him or his claimed table mate and then kill some other townie and know that they've broken up two town/town pairings.
Sathoris has; therefore, completely obliterated the only advantage I can think of to withhold the information (assuming he's not scum).
Also Vote: Drixx. I don't like your logic so far and revealing yourself to be vanilla while complaining about people revealing pairs feels very hypocritical.
edit: particularly given that you had no pressure on you whatsoever.
Now that a small minority of the game have decided to force a day one pairing reveal, the entire mechanic is just a way for the mafia to hide and confuse the town with.
This is how Drixx gets himself lynched every game
Unvote: Drixx
As a side note, something feels off about your play this game Sathoris. Normally you latch onto someone and pressure them. I was sure you'd pounce on Numbers for mangling my earlier post but you seem to be operating completely outside of your normal MO.
You feel quite strongly about this. Can you explain why without a wall of text, please.
I am tossing up between Zokar and Drixx at this stage, but I need to reread the thread.
Let me show you how sharing partners will work out. My partner is Goryani. Who is your partner Zokar?
So you think that claiming pairings is bad, but revealing yourself as vanilla is good?
While mafia can intentionally break-up mini mason pairs, it is not without risk as it means they are going to get more scrutiny for being part of a "whole pair. At the end of the day mafia know up to 3 pairs and atleast 2 pairs (assuming 3 mafia). I'd rather town knows all 7 pairs then mafia know 2-3 and town knows 1 each.
So i'll reveal my pair and force more hands. Fred is my partner.
Franklin picking up my uncle from hospital is more important than this.
I've always said I hate no vote days.
If you had any sense you'd just start a lynch train on me and then I'd vote for myself and you'd be happy!
But as you didn't ...
Vote: Drixx
Sorry, mate but as far as I can tell you're in the lead with votes!
And if I die tonight ... welll, I'd be looking at franklin!
The idea behind withholding the pairing info on day 1 and 2 is so the mafia cannot intentionally break up the mini-mason groups. If Sathoris was being honest, they can now kill him or his claimed table mate and then kill some other townie and know that they've broken up two town/town pairings.
So i'll reveal my pair and force more hands. Fred is my partner.
By lynching players? Yes I plan to lynch playersand so... you want to make it easier for them to do this?
To be fair several (most?) of us didn't realize it was all SKs until half of the players died, and that partner convo ended D1 or D2.. can't remember whichAlso, for the love of <insert acceptable object of affection here>, don't assume the scum will kill only people they know to be town/town paired. That kind of thinking is a trap that they could only hope and pray the town falls into. Do remember that the last (and only) time this mechanic was used, everyone in the mini-game was an SK, so the question of table partners and associated discussion that game was completely moot and irrelevant to this game.
I know what your accusation against Thy was and that's why I'm torn b/w the two of you. Hence vote 2 was employedYou do realize there is actual context behind what I said right? Or do you not care?
So an opinion has to be blatantly stated for it to be shared? If you had to guess based off of my posts where I stand in revealing or not revealing QT partners what would you think the answer is? Cause, I'm pretty sure, you'd be right! Shocking I know.
Anyway, I am torn between voting. Not sure I'll be around rest of the day, but will try to re-download tapatalk since I still only have forum runner.
On the one hand I have my QT partner (hmm, where do I stand on naming them or not numbers?) who isn't interested in trying to leverage an aspect of the game that could be beneficial to the town, and this is why I think they are scum.
On the other hand is one of the worst reasoning votes of all time by phar who doesn't even know who said what made him vote and if he did he didn't even read what the point was in the first place.
Vote: pharphis
Lies, my partner is GoryaniLet me show you how sharing partners will work out. My partner is Goryani. Who is your partner Zokar?
Also Vote: Drixx. I don't like your logic so far and revealing yourself to be vanilla while complaining about people revealing pairs feels very hypocritical.
Agreed, but BA seems to have his panties in a bunch from my vote so it will stay there for nowedit: particularly given that you had no pressure on you whatsoever.
Oh goodie, you finally get it. THEY MIGHT KILL THEIR OWN PARTNERS INSTEAD OF TOWN-TOWN PAIRINGS ONLY. Glad you agree with us, finally.I said in a previous game that i will no longer (barring some peculiar exception) be participating in any mass claims. This has not changed, I will not be participating in this one either.
I will not answer your question.
Except if they kill off their partner...
Vote: Thyiad
Franklin picking up my uncle from hospital is more important than this.
I've always said I hate no vote days.
If you had any sense you'd just start a lynch train on me and then I'd vote for myself and you'd be happy!
But as you didn't ...
Vote: Drixx
Sorry, mate but as far as I can tell you're in the lead with votes!
And if I die tonight ... welll, I'd be looking at franklin!