[2006] "Untwinked, Coffin Dodger Hell Journey Tournament" [by Morathi]

Aerwynd said:
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Forum Name      Character Name    Class      Build type     lvl    Area
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Drystan         Caellyn_II        Sorc       Blizzballer    46     (NM) Rogue camp
Sidhe           Grim              Druid      Hunter         19     Inner Cloister
pwangsta        Lorahana          Assassin   Hybrid         16     Outer Cloister
Cygnus          Penthesilea       Amazon     LF/PJ          16     Black Marsh
TheFaceless     TheFacefull       Druid      Werebear       14     Dark Wood
Morathi         Seizan            Druid      Hunter         8      Stony Field
Tartanasia      Bennie-K          Sorc       FW/FO          1      Rogue Camp
Jackalope       Elizabeth         Amazon     MS/FA          1      Rogue Camp
Rhaenys         Stark             Assassin   Martial        1      Rogue Camp


RIP/Retired Chars

Forum Name      Character Name    Class      Build type     lvl    Area
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Morathi         Myojin            Sorc       Blizzballer    56     (RIP[NM]Arcane Sanc
Naab            Refrigerator      Paladin    Holy freeze    32     Diablo(RIP)
Naab            Nikola_Tesla      Paladin    Tesladin       31     CS(RIP)
Naab            Holy_Cheese       Paladin    Hammerdin      31     CS(RIP)
Ron             Zamboni           Assassin   Trap/Kick      24     Duriel(RIP)

I just realized I have been playing @ /p3 through Normal, not /p8, so I am disqualified from this tournament.... Amber is anyway, I may join with another character after I progress w/ Amber a little more...

Sorry about that... I just don't want to risk my first HC char so early... I'd rather see if I can take her to Guardian at a lower /pX setting...

Will probably make a FanaZealot or Fireclaws/Fury Wolf...

Aerwynd
 
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Morathi said:
hrrrm how long have you been going at p/3? if it is more than one act then i guess that makes it an advantage so i guess you may have to disqualifiy her. But if you have only been going under one act she may still go. Remember you can enter with as many characters any time. That is of couse if the tourny is still going.
 
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Morathi said:
GRRRRRRRRRR this is so annoying. I am reading up on all old threads on Hunters and summoner druids and i am very confused. Many people say dont bother maxing spirit wolves beacause their passive ability to your other summons is barley noticable. Also some suggest other things to max instead of spirit wolves. They suggest maxing ravens, posion creeper or cyclone armour. I am unsure what to do. I may go cyclone armour as it provides some help against elemental damage and becasue i am using a bow i lack the support of a shield. But poison creeper stops monster in hell regen their life. AND ravens blind monsters which makes me safer.

please if someone could give advice i would be thankful.
 
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Kretschmer said:
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Forum Name      Character Name    Class      Build type     lvl    Area
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Drystan         Caellyn_II        Sorc       Blizzballer    46     (NM) Rogue camp
Aerwynd         Amber             Sorc       CL/FO          26     Lower Kurast
Sidhe           Grim              Druid      Hunter         19     Inner Cloister
pwangsta        Lorahana          Assassin   Hybrid         16     Outer Cloister
Cygnus          Penthesilea       Amazon     LF/PJ          16     Black Marsh
TheFaceless     TheFacefull       Druid      Werebear       14     Dark Wood
Morathi         Seizan            Druid      Hunter         8      Stony Field
Tartanasia      Bennie-K          Sorc       FW/FO          1      Rogue Camp
Jackalope       Elizabeth         Amazon     MS/FA          1      Rogue Camp
Rhaenys         Stark             Assassin   Martial        1      Rogue Camp
Kretschmer      Silezia           Assassin   Phoenix (MA)   29     Lower Kurast

RIP/Retired Chars

Forum Name      Character Name    Class      Build type     lvl    Area
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Morathi         Myojin            Sorc       Blizzballer    56     (RIP[NM]Arcane Sanc
Naab            Refrigerator      Paladin    Holy freeze    32     Diablo(RIP)
Naab            Nikola_Tesla      Paladin    Tesladin       31     CS(RIP)
Naab            Holy_Cheese       Paladin    Hammerdin      31     CS(RIP)
Ron             Zamboni           Assassin   Trap/Kick      24     Duriel(RIP)

I have a character that was not created for this Tourney, but has been playing under the rules (/players 8; untwinked; hardcore; mostly not repeating areas, not repeating, now). Is it ok if I enter her?

Silezia is a claw-claw phoenix striker. Very fun and intense build so far, though I'm not sure how she'll last in NM and hell. Not as tough as shield-based or insane HP characters, requires melee, and constitutes a frantic pace that might be my doom!
 
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Sidhe said:
@Morathi:
Personally I'd say not to go for Ravens or Poison Creeper; Ravens would require too many points (probably) and Poison Creeper will not survive Hell. As for the armor... Well, you have a bow, you can stay at a distance, do you really need Cyclone Armor then?
But you know... How about you playing the way -you- want, and put points into the skill -you- think is best suited to your Hunter and your playing style? You've gained a few answers in your Hunter thread, in which people told you to go for Spirit Wolves (for the bonuses), and you read some guides that said other things, but all in all it comes down to how -you- wish to play. 😃

As for this tourney and my char: I've decided to move Grim (among others) to my laptop, so I can continue playing. Hope it works and nothing crashes when I do that!
 
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Morathi said:
yeah thanks sidhe i understand. But this is my second ever attempt at HC and i want to make a guardian. So i need to make sure i get the right skills and max them in the right order. I may just stick with the spirit wolves regardless if people say they are pointless because it is a fact they add a bonus to the summons armour and AR.
 
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NacRuno said:

  • Max Dire Wolf
    Max Heart of Wolverine
    Max Grizzly
    Max Cyclone Armour
    Max Spirit Wolf
    1 Base Carrion Vine

    105 Skill Points used
    Finished at Level 94

that's the skill distribution i am planning for my hunter. i will max the skills in that order. i know lvl 94 is too far away but as the last points go to spirit wolf, doesn't matter much.

i had done a lot of reading when i was trying to find the suitable skill distribution for my wolf. at the end, i concluded that raven is a one skill wonder, just don't forget to recast it as much as required. you can benefit from slvl 1 raven just as much as you can benefit from slvl20 raven. of course than it doesn't become a cast&forget spell but, that's my personal conclusion 😁

poison creeper can be useful, but you won't be summoner, you will be a hunter. you can assist your summons with a good choice of bow and other equipment to neglect the monster regeneration. don't know how many poison charms equal its effect but, i am confident that my druid can be a replacement for that poison ivy.

one might argue cyclone armor doesn't give as much protection without the snergies. it is true but, 268 damage absorbtion is quite something (with 0 +skills). if you think you will watch your animals from behind, beyond any magical damage range, than poison creeper may be a better choice. but if you like to stay close to your summons and the ongoing fight like i do, than cyclone armor is too good to pass

just my two cents 😁

EDIT: topic answered and closed all while i was writing :sad2:, need to type faster or stop poking around..
 
Sidhe said:
Morathi said:
But this is my second ever attempt at HC and i want to make a guardian.
I understand that, I mean, I want my Hunter (and my other HC chars) to survive too. But that's the thing with HC: you can die, and in HC-mode, that's the end.

So I figure that it's better to start a char, make it one you enjoy, and hope for the best. And most of all, be carefull! 😁

Edit @NacRuno:
Your answer was far more elaborate and way better than mine, so... 😃

@Morathi below: Well, it still comes down to that last bit eh? Having fun? 😉
 
Morathi said:
lol thanks anyway for your informative comment.

edit- ok thank you everyone for answering my question about my hunter but it seems we are drifting off topic. SO...... Lets get back on topic now and just post questions on the tourny, updates etc.
 
bladejj said:
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Forum Name      Character Name    Class      Build type     lvl    Area
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Drystan         Caellyn_II        Sorc       Blizzballer    46     (NM) Rogue camp
Kretschmer      Silezia           Assassin   Phoenix (MA)   29     Lower Kurast
Aerwynd         Amber             Sorc       CL/FO          26     Lower Kurast
Sidhe           Grim              Druid      Hunter         19     Inner Cloister
pwangsta        Lorahana          Assassin   Hybrid         16     Outer Cloister
Bladejj         DejaII            Assassin   Trapper/DS     16     Black Marsh
Cygnus          Penthesilea       Amazon     LF/PJ          16     Black Marsh
TheFaceless     TheFacefull       Druid      Werebear       14     Dark Wood
Morathi         Seizan            Druid      Hunter         8      Stony Field
Tartanasia      Bennie-K          Sorc       FW/FO          1      Rogue Camp
Jackalope       Elizabeth         Amazon     MS/FA          1      Rogue Camp
Rhaenys         Stark             Assassin   Martial        1      Rogue Camp

RIP/Retired Chars

Forum Name      Character Name    Class      Build type     lvl    Area
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Morathi         Myojin            Sorc       Blizzballer    56     (RIP[NM]Arcane Sanc
Naab            Refrigerator      Paladin    Holy freeze    32     Diablo(RIP)
Naab            Nikola_Tesla      Paladin    Tesladin       31     CS(RIP)
Naab            Holy_Cheese       Paladin    Hammerdin      31     CS(RIP)
Ron             Zamboni           Assassin   Trap/Kick      24     Duriel(RIP)
Just started a character for this tournament and she is already level 16 :wink2:. I am going to go for a Trap Assassin, with a back up attack being blade fury. Skills will look something like..
20 LS
20 DS
20 SM
3 Fire Blast (extra shot of DS)
1 BF, all 1 point wonders, and pre.
the rest in fade
Vemon???

Sense this is Untwinked, I am planning on using a Blessed Aim Merc for AR. I have never seen any untwinked character like this before so any help or suggestions would be appreciated. My girls name is DejaII because my first attempt at a HC assassin (following Nightfishs tiger strike/DS), who died in NM ct II, was named...well...you can probably guess.

P.S. fixed the table for Kretschmer
 
Aerwynd said:
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Forum Name      Character Name    Class      Build type     lvl    Area
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Drystan         Caellyn_II        Sorc       Blizzballer    46     (NM) Rogue camp
Kretschmer      Silezia           Assassin   Phoenix (MA)   29     Lower Kurast
Sidhe           Grim              Druid      Hunter         19     Inner Cloister
pwangsta        Lorahana          Assassin   Hybrid         16     Outer Cloister
Bladejj         DejaII            Assassin   Trapper/DS     16     Black Marsh
Cygnus          Penthesilea       Amazon     LF/PJ          16     Black Marsh
TheFaceless     TheFacefull       Druid      Werebear       14     Dark Wood
Morathi         Seizan            Druid      Hunter         8      Stony Field
Tartanasia      Bennie-K          Sorc       FW/FO          1      Rogue Camp
Jackalope       Elizabeth         Amazon     MS/FA          1      Rogue Camp
Rhaenys         Stark             Assassin   Martial        1      Rogue Camp

RIP/Retired Chars

Forum Name      Character Name    Class      Build type     lvl    Area
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Morathi         Myojin            Sorc       Blizzballer    56     (RIP[NM]Arcane Sanc
Naab            Refrigerator      Paladin    Holy freeze    32     Diablo(RIP)
Naab            Nikola_Tesla      Paladin    Tesladin       31     CS(RIP)
Naab            Holy_Cheese       Paladin    Hammerdin      31     CS(RIP)
Ron             Zamboni           Assassin   Trap/Kick      24     Duriel(RIP)

Removed myself from the table AGAIN 👍

BTW, Morathi, I've been playing /p3 the whole time, from Act I to Act IV now... I will join with another char soon 😁

Aerwynd
 
pwangsta said:
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Forum Name      Character Name    Class      Build type     lvl    Area
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Drystan         Caellyn_II        Sorc       Blizzballer    46     (NM) Rogue camp
Kretschmer      Silezia           Assassin   Phoenix (MA)   29     Lower Kurast
Sidhe           Grim              Druid      Hunter         19     Inner Cloister
Bladejj         DejaII            Assassin   Trapper/DS     16     Black Marsh
Cygnus          Penthesilea       Amazon     LF/PJ          16     Black Marsh
TheFaceless     TheFacefull       Druid      Werebear       14     Dark Wood
Morathi         Seizan            Druid      Hunter         8      Stony Field
Tartanasia      Bennie-K          Sorc       FW/FO          1      Rogue Camp
Jackalope       Elizabeth         Amazon     MS/FA          1      Rogue Camp
Rhaenys         Stark             Assassin   Martial        1      Rogue Camp

RIP/Retired Chars

Forum Name      Character Name    Class      Build type     lvl    Area
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Morathi         Myojin            Sorc       Blizzballer    56     (NM) Arcane Sanc
Naab            Refrigerator      Paladin    Holy freeze    32     Diablo
Naab            Nikola_Tesla      Paladin    Tesladin       31     CS
Naab            Holy_Cheese       Paladin    Hammerdin      31     CS
Ron             Zamboni           Assassin   Trap/Kick      24     Duriel
pwangsta        Lorahana          Assassin   Hybrid         19     Catacombs L2

Oops. I got a bit careless in the Catacombs cuz nothing had been too difficult. I was lugging around minor healings and didn't hit the pot fast enough when I got surrounded by champion Ghouls. Think I'm gonna try a nice safe fishymancer next.
 
Dr. Strangelove said:
Whoaa, I just noticed this thread right now, yeah I know I'm blind. Anyway would like to join in. Just created a hc char two days ago, a pally, hammerdin, untwinked, lvl 20, act2, p8 atm. If it's ok with you guys of course that I'm joining with an already created character. <lmk, ok.
 
Kretschmer said:
pwangsta said:
Oops. I got a bit careless in the Catacombs cuz nothing had been too difficult. I was lugging around minor healings and didn't hit the pot fast enough when I got surrounded by champion Ghouls. Think I'm gonna try a nice safe fishymancer next.
I can't think of anything better than a fishymancer for this kind of tourney. :)
 
Morathi said:
@pwangsta. you are free to join with as many characters as you want any
time. Just place in the details of your next character in your table.

@factory. its ok to join just place in the details of your character in the table and your set to go 😁 .

AND remember this was meant to be a challanging tournament with being HC and p/8 through all of normal, Untwinked and no re-running areas (in normal). So basically the biggest challange for this tournament is Normal. Once you beat that NM is pretty much how you would normally play a simple HC character.
 
Morathi said:
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Forum Name      Character Name    Class      Build type     lvl    Area
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Drystan         Caellyn_II        Sorc       Blizzballer    46 (NM)Rogue camp
Kretschmer      Silezia           Assassin   Phoenix (MA)   29     Lower Kurast
Morathi         Seizan            Druid      Hunter         22     Far Oasis
Sidhe           Grim              Druid      Hunter         19     Inner Cloister
Bladejj         DejaII            Assassin   Trapper/DS     16     Black Marsh
Cygnus          Penthesilea       Amazon     LF/PJ          16     Black Marsh
TheFaceless     TheFacefull       Druid      Werebear       14     Dark Wood
Tartanasia      Bennie-K          Sorc       FW/FO          1      Rogue Camp
Jackalope       Elizabeth         Amazon     MS/FA          1      Rogue Camp
Rhaenys         Stark             Assassin   Martial        1      Rogue Camp

RIP/Retired Chars

Forum Name      Character Name    Class      Build type     lvl    Area
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Morathi         Myojin            Sorc       Blizzballer    56 (NM)Arcane Sanc
Naab            Refrigerator      Paladin    Holy freeze    32     Diablo
Naab            Nikola_Tesla      Paladin    Tesladin       31     CS
Naab            Holy_Cheese       Paladin    Hammerdin      31     CS
Ron             Zamboni           Assassin   Trap/Kick      24     Duriel
pwangsta        Lorahana          Assassin   Hybrid         19     Catacombs L2

Seizan did some good progress today. He defeated Andariel with little effort on p/8. He only had to go to town once to get some mana pots so he could recast his dire wolves. Right now i have got 5 spirit wolves, 5 dire wolves and 5 HoW. I am maxing dire wolves now and HoW is getting pumped up as many remaining points i have left. I picked up a defiance merc who is doing good. Also carrion vine is a really nice spell i barley have to drink a potion. Well Seizan is level 22 and has had no NDE's yet. For some reason however he takes forever to level (and this is p/8) but i am trying my hardest so when i meet duriel i will be level 30 and can use grizzily.

Morathi

edit- fixed table
 
Cygnus said:
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Forum Name      Character Name    Class      Build type     lvl    Area
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Drystan         Caellyn_II        Sorc       Blizzballer    46 (NM)Rogue camp
Kretschmer      Silezia           Assassin   Phoenix (MA)   29     Lower Kurast
Morathi         Seizan            Druid      Hunter         22     Far Oasis
Cygnus          Penthesilea       Amazon     LF/PJ          22     Halls of the Dead 2
Sidhe           Grim              Druid      Hunter         19     Inner Cloister
Bladejj         DejaII            Assassin   Trapper/DS     16     Black Marsh
TheFaceless     TheFacefull       Druid      Werebear       14     Dark Wood
Tartanasia      Bennie-K          Sorc       FW/FO          1      Rogue Camp
Jackalope       Elizabeth         Amazon     MS/FA          1      Rogue Camp
Rhaenys         Stark             Assassin   Martial        1      Rogue Camp

RIP/Retired Chars

Forum Name      Character Name    Class      Build type     lvl    Area
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Morathi         Myojin            Sorc       Blizzballer    56 (NM)Arcane Sanc
Naab            Refrigerator      Paladin    Holy freeze    32     Diablo
Naab            Nikola_Tesla      Paladin    Tesladin       31     CS
Naab            Holy_Cheese       Paladin    Hammerdin      31     CS
Ron             Zamboni           Assassin   Trap/Kick      24     Duriel
pwangsta        Lorahana          Assassin   Hybrid         19     Catacombs L2
Finished act 1 (Andy at /p8), got to act 2 and the cube. Nothing even remotely threatening, really.

Equipment: Penthesilea is using a rare javelin with life leech and replenishing stack, bone shield of deflecting gives 75% block. Prayer merc Hazade got a brand new, fresh-from-the-forge savage poleaxe, which will be replaced by a savage lochaber axe as soon as he gains another level.

Hazade does most of the killing right now as mana problems do not allow Penthesilea to spam Charged Strike freely. Apart from throwing the occasional poisoned javelin, she intervenes only when crowd control is necessary.

80% MF on character, 45% on merc (merc had 0% for Andy)

Useful finds: Two 12%FHR GCs (Tamoe highlands?, Halls of the Dead 2), 20% Nagel (afflicted boss, catacombs 2)

Junk S/U:
Arctic Binding (chest in Jail 1), Gore Foot (Andy), Snakecord (Radament)

Penthesilea, level 22 LF/PJ Amazon, 5 CS 6 PoJ 1 PJ 1 each in passives
 
bladejj said:
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Forum Name      Character Name    Class      Build type     lvl    Area
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Drystan         Caellyn_II        Sorc       Blizzballer    46 (NM)Rogue camp
Bladejj         DejaII            Assassin   Trapper/BF     31     Pand. Fortress
Kretschmer      Silezia           Assassin   Phoenix (MA)   29     Lower Kurast
Morathi         Seizan            Druid      Hunter         22     Far Oasis
Cygnus          Penthesilea       Amazon     LF/PJ          22     Halls of the Dead 2
Sidhe           Grim              Druid      Hunter         19     Inner Cloister
TheFaceless     TheFacefull       Druid      Werebear       14     Dark Wood
Tartanasia      Bennie-K          Sorc       FW/FO          1      Rogue Camp
Jackalope       Elizabeth         Amazon     MS/FA          1      Rogue Camp
Rhaenys         Stark             Assassin   Martial        1      Rogue Camp

RIP/Retired Chars

Forum Name      Character Name    Class      Build type     lvl    Area
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Morathi         Myojin            Sorc       Blizzballer    56 (NM)Arcane Sanc
Naab            Refrigerator      Paladin    Holy freeze    32     Diablo
Naab            Nikola_Tesla      Paladin    Tesladin       31     CS
Naab            Holy_Cheese       Paladin    Hammerdin      31     CS
Ron             Zamboni           Assassin   Trap/Kick      24     Duriel
pwangsta        Lorahana          Assassin   Hybrid         19     Catacombs L2
DejaII just finished off Mephisto with somewhat of ease (merc died ~10 times). I have had some decent finds. I made Stealth in a light plate so now I can run faster as well as some other good stuff (Tal from LK). I also built a Malice runeword in a Scissors Katar, the open wounds, prevent monster heal, - defense, ect. really helps out. But the Council really gave me a great drop for this build. One of them gave me an etheral Ripsaw Flamberge. This weapon was perfect for my Blade Furyer. With OW and mana steal it really gets the job done.

Other good finds include Sander Boots (in one of the fake tombs), Nagelring (pot in Lost City), and Biggons Bonnet (spider in Act VI).
 
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