19000 life, 6651 one hand damage, 35% damage resist, 62% block - kodiak bear build

[MonsterSlayer]

OK, I'll repeat it to you, I HAVE SOME OF GEAR,


And finally, WTF, you are entering this site every morning and searching new posts by me or what? Or I should not post anythig so that you don't make fun of name or posts?

Ok go ahead write something about my every post.

Because I love you Paul

Or probably because you always comes up with the craziest, most expansive and worst ideas ever, and won't listen to advices when you ask, but keep on going with your ideas, you could just as well try to build the thing and in 60 years complain that you can't find the items, or that it sucks hard.

Your char melee intended or not will suck in almost every duel. First of, you keep on mentioning Zeal paladins, so here's why a Zeal paladin will own you, eventhough the char only has 3k life and 2.5k damage:

Zeal = can't be interrupted. A lot faster than you. Probably higher AR than you.
HS = Faster blocking and higher blocking than you. Probably a lot higher defence than you.

Your Bear = can be interrupted, a lot slower, probably won't even get a hit in aso.

The only char I could find this build an interresting matchup against would be a cs zon if you don't absorb, a ton damage versus a ton life, and almost same speed .

Btw. yes it's possible to make this char, but I'll probably win 20 times in Lotto before you do so.

 

[Tor]

cough impalezon

 

[MortIIs]

By the time you made the bear with the full gear u want. Most of us will be in coffins under the ground. Good luck tho.

 

[Dad Daniel]

If you would have read my first post carefully, you would probably nortice, that for buffing BO no charms are needed, I'll have 20% DS, defence and AR I didn't yet calculated, but I think there will be enough because werebear and shout offer good defence and charms, maul, rings offer good AR, but anyway, I'll calculate those later. I will say it again, this char is intended to be versus melee guys dealing physical damage.

Of course no charms are needed for improving BO from CTA (excluding annihilus)!

 

[Ankeli1]

mustard owns ketchup anyway

 

[Paul barbarian]

Because I love you Paul

Or probably because you always comes up with the craziest, most expansive and worst ideas ever, and won't listen to advices when you ask, but keep on going with your ideas, you could just as well try to build the thing and in 60 years complain that you can't find the items, or that it sucks hard.

Your char melee intended or not will suck in almost every duel. First of, you keep on mentioning Zeal paladins, so here's why a Zeal paladin will own you, eventhough the char only has 3k life and 2.5k damage:

Zeal = can't be interrupted. A lot faster than you. Probably higher AR than you.
HS = Faster blocking and higher blocking than you. Probably a lot higher defence than you.

Your Bear = can be interrupted, a lot slower, probably won't even get a hit in aso.

The only char I could find this build an interresting matchup against would be a cs zon if you don't absorb, a ton damage versus a ton life, and almost same speed .

Btw. yes it's possible to make this char, but I'll probably win 20 times in Lotto before you do so.

Bla Bla Bla, zeal not interrupted and so on, I know all that, but I WILL be able to lay strike, and powerful strike, if zeal can't be interrupted, why zealers are loosing duels, if WW is not interrupted, how come WW barbs are not dominating whole diablo 2 world, I've been dueling good chars much higher level than my and with much better gear, but anyway I sometimes was laying hits, it is not that bad as you say if you have a little bit less block, or a little bit less FHR, but when you have6 times more life and 2 times more damage, it does matter, plus you are saying about this bear, looks like he will not have any FHR or block, or speed at all, he will have.

 

[Ankeli1]

how come WW barbs are not dominating whole diablo 2 world

do i see an error here? :lol:

 

[LuckyDwarf]

I will bet you $100 that you will never ever get this gear on any legit blizzard realm. If you want I'll send you my address via PM so that you can write me a check first thing in the morning.

Rather than nitpick on your gear mistakes, or your lack of dueling knowledge, or your poor engrish, or your inability to accept insight from experienced (<--- Ding Ding, Alarms, Bells, Whistles, LOOK AT THE BOLDED WORD PLEASE!) duelers, I will pick on.. okay, so I just pointed them all out. Call me an arse. Go ahead.

The bottom line is that, while this setup may give you a .43% better chance to beat a budget character who has.. *cough* ..skill and experience, this amount of wealth and time could be poured into getting a second job, a third job, a fourth job, and a fifth job. I suggest, however, that you concentrate on making sense, as well as polish up on the mechanics of the PvP world, before you rush in flaunting an idea that, quite frankly, is a complete waste.

Lucky

 

[Ash Housewares1]

mustard owns ketchup anyway

we do have a designated thread for this sort of crap you know

 

[Bigrob]

do u have such build as ur char in bnet?

if so put up a screenie plz.

do not "imagine" a char, but build it.

 

[Paul barbarian]

do u have such build as ur char in bnet?

if so put up a screenie plz.

do not "imagine" a char, but build it.

First I plan a char and only than build it, I don't make char without planning it beforehand.


Guys I'm thinking now will it be better to take ebotd warpike instead of shield and axe, range is 5, I'll just attack from afar?

 

[MagicMoron]

First I plan a char and only than build it, I don't make char without planning it beforehand.


Guys I'm thinking now will it be better to take ebotd warpike instead of shield and axe, range is 5, I'll just attack from afar?

Too slow. You need a faster hitting weapon. And block is essential. Your life bubble, although apparently huge, can go down quite fast. SS = Essential Res and Dr since you are melee dueling only.

 

[Paul barbarian]

Too slow. You need a faster hitting weapon. And block is essential. Your life bubble, although apparently huge, can go down quite fast. SS = Essential Res and Dr since you are melee dueling only.

Oh ok, but I'll have range 5 anyone who will try to come close will fail, since I'll atack him from afar.

 

[MagicMoron]

Oh ok, but I'll have range 5 anyone who will try to come close will fail, since I'll atack him from afar.

If they are cookie cutter, their ias will still bring your life down fast enough before you can kill them.

 

[batuchka]

Hmm with 120ias Great Poleaxe you'd hit @ 5fpa while a similiar stats G.Thresher allows bear 4fpa. Maybe if you go 1-h/Block and go with a Gris Caddy or 110ias pb with that much life you could wear opponents down with high def, max block and land hits with a fast one hander and wear them down with Open Wounds? I have seen screenshots of wolfbarbs with 10k life and they wear down opponents with gris caddy which doesn't do much dmg but u have maul and stunning ability so that might work out A scrennie of a wolfbarb using what appears to be an ebotd zerker (not 4fpa feral) :

http://img193.echo.cx/img193/8624/screenshot0087pv.jpg

Reports by wolfbarbs state that with Gris Caddy they do 1.2k dmg max and still win duels with max block/dr so you may want to apply that especially for PvP.

 

[logger120]

wow that gear setup is ridiculous. i could make 5 different characters with that gear and they would all prolly beat your bear in a dual. besides people can just tele around kill your OS and wait for your BO to ware out then kill you. most zealots will destroy you for one reason chance to cast. crecent moon plus exile plus enigma will be your worst nightmare. good work on the calculations. but get real the odds of finding all that gear legitimately are about the same as all the members of this forum winning the lottery on the same day. but dont let me stop you. i'll be waiting for a screenshot.

 

[TheUnchosen]

Regardless, this hero is NOT viable in a PvP environment or realistically plausiable..

The probability of finding all those items and even trading for all those items is IMO near impossible.

+3 to summons +100 to life circlet with 3 sockets?
200% to defence armor +100 to life with 4 sockets?
2 x rare rings (+40 to life, +20 to strength, +15 to dexterity)?
rare belt (+60 to life, +30 to strength, +297 defence(+3 per char level))?

Those are some pretty rare items man...

Ok, but let's say you manage to find all the items.

You could acheve it but you're going through almost 3 complete sets and 2 sets of charms. There is no way it could fit inside your inventory and stash.

So you either have to drop the items around on the floor which is a bit risky with the items you have or you could have a manservant friend to mule for you. Either option is just not worth the effort.

Also the TIME it takes to actually transfer and move all the items and go through all the stages...you have to do that every duel? Boring..

And finally, your bear can only duel in melee situations cause anywhere else your bear would be butchered. That limits the kind of duels alot.

Also, looking at your lack of FHR, If I ever was to duel you, I'd make sure I swung faster than you and just whacked you into oblivion. You may have alot of life but that just means it takes longer for you to die. I could even throw in some elemental damage to really exploit your lack of resistance.

Your theory build is strong but it's not worth that much effort to create for a build that is severely lacking in some areas.

With the time and effort you could spend creating and collect the character and his items, you could create a character that was more rounded/generally better and most likely cheaper.

 

[Bigrob]

gosh you guys are lame. the point is that its possible to have a bear with life past 15k and still have good resist, stats etc. the life would also skyrocket if you had a freind of yours barb bo for you. (im just saying this because i always pub pk wit ha freind)

u do not "imagine", but u "make". -_-

Yes, it is possible to achieve the life this high, but if u never really build one then who knows if it is real or not? what is the point if u have nice idea but do not do? Then it will never happen.

paul babarian: If u havent make one yet, u have to except that ppl would use their commen sense to judge this build. So u will have to prove it by making it comes real. Beside, if the build is so powerful and can achieve life this high, why wouldnt u make it anyway?

btw, how did u get 1156str and 452vita at the same time? Is this a typo?

 

[MonsterSlayer]

Bla Bla Bla, zeal not interrupted and so on, I know all that, but I WILL be able to lay strike, and powerful strike, if zeal can't be interrupted, why zealers are loosing duels, if WW is not interrupted, how come WW barbs are not dominating whole diablo 2 world, I've been dueling good chars much higher level than my and with much better gear, but anyway I sometimes was laying hits, it is not that bad as you say if you have a little bit less block, or a little bit less FHR, but when you have6 times more life and 2 times more damage, it does matter, plus you are saying about this bear, looks like he will not have any FHR or block, or speed at all, he will have.

No you won't land a single hit, and even if you do your damage would be 6000/12 = 500 which means 6 hits to win, meanwhile if the zealer triggers life tap you won't even get him down to half.

The zealer will have 2 FBR while you'll have 12 FBR. The zealer will probably have about 5 FHR while you'll have about 12 FHR.

So to say you'll take a half second to block and a half second to recover from a hit. Now I'm not sure if FHR is a matter for your bear if the damage has to be 1/12 where 2.5k won't reach 1/12 of 19k after pvp penalty and reduction. Eventhough you won't go in hit recovery animation you'll still take those ½ seconds blocking where with 62% chance to block you'll be in that animation pretty much all time, unless blocking works different now?

For the AR/DEF part, even the wolfbarb only has 13k AR and 16k Def, you'll probably have around 10k AR and 20k Def. The zealer will have about 40k def and 15k AR. In that way it's very obvious who'll land most hits and beside the Zealer will attack with 5 Fpa while you'll probably attack with something near those 9 Fpa?

The reason that zealers don't kill everything is pretty obvious...

Beside why did you suddenly in the middle of the thread mention this char was not intended versus casters? Because it lacks resists? Because you won't be able to catch one who teleports? What if the melee char uses high elemental damage? E.g. FireClaw Bear, Holy Schock Zealer, or CS ama. Melee chars can also use teleport and if they want to be bm, they could just as well avoid you until your BO wears off and your oak has been slaying.

Wouldn't it be better if you and a friend made a Bear Druid and a WW barb where the barb could BO you? Then you wouldn't have to have the BO gear, and for the Oak part you could as well team up with a wind druid with lots of + skills? Then you could duel 3v3 and you could use your skills on something more offensive as Fireclaw.

 

[Stevebo]

Paul - please read this carefully, I'm not having a go at you and am trying to help.

1. You cannot make the build - i checked the inventory size - it will exactly hold 12 Grand Charms and three of your four helms. Even if you do away with the small charms (which i am assuming you are also using to get your attack rating up too) you will still have to lose half your gear as 10 Charms + 1 Armour + 3 Helms will still fill your stash (with the other 10 charms in your inventory).

2. You will never find all the kit you want - not even if you play every day for a hundred years.

3. There is more to dueling than life (and more to life than dueling ) such as AR and actually being able to hit your opponent. Also I know 19,000 health sounds like a lot but if you look over in the barb guides you will see it is realistically possible to make a WW Barb that does up to 12,000 damage per hit (with an average of 7,000). You could be killed in two hits, and on average in 3 hits. With 65% block this will equate to you lasting 1.5 seconds - if you're lucky. Its also possible (i.e it has been done) to make a rabies druid that does 40,000 poison damage in one hit (over time), all they have to do is bite you once and tele around you for a few seconds.

It's a fun idea (for a bit) "I'll make the char with the most life/damage/defense/mana/etc EVER" but basically it does not make the best character for either PvM or PvP.

If you really want a lot of health try making a Vit Barb and use a wisp-projector to give him an Oak Sage and use 'Beast' weapon to turn your barb into a bear. Please don't start posting in the barb forum on a crazy plan based on this combined with dozens of stages and masses of equipment. Just try with normal gear and see how it goes - BUILD IT FIRST BEFORE POSTING. AFAIK there are not too many Barbs out there like this, which probably means its not that great a build, but you should get a lot of health. Combined with masteries and other attack bonuses you should also get a decent attack rating.(Note : wisp projector and Beast can also in my humble opinion be classed as hard-to-get). I REPEAT - DON'T POST ABOUT IT UNTIL YOU HAVE BUILT IT.
(People - If he starts endlessley posting in the Barb forum about this i'm really sorry)

From reading your posts it seems you pretty much only play very very heavily twinked and have never really built a character from scratch untwinked or even semi-twinked - which is why you have some fundamental misunderstandings about how things work and a lack of appreciation of kit. I really suggest you try playing untwinked for a bit - say complete hell untwinked using the build you want and you will have a much better understanding how it works.

btw - untwinked in its purest form means "only using items the character finds himself". I prefer semi-twinked which to me (others differ) means "only using items that I personally find and then give to my other characters".

Finally - If you do come up with a build you want to try then BUILD THE DAMN THING for real before you start posting guides for it.