19000 life, 6651 one hand damage, 35% damage resist, 62% block - kodiak bear build

From what I have read in some of the recent and constructive posts in this thread, such a bear could only be a Tank, who lacks Resists, PDR, Block and Defense (always gets hit, and when he does, he get hit hard). He also would be as hard and expensive to make as an account full of duelers, let's say a Zealot, a BvC Barb, a GA Zon, a Smiter, a Windy, a Bonenec, a 200FCR FB sorc, and a WWsin (I'm not qualified to tell what duelers are the most popular on B.NET but I think that this might be a bit accurate).
 
Bigrob said:
And there is one main problem, is that ur gears are undoubfully hard to acquire and it seems to me that some of them are impossible to obtain. A ring with 20str, 15dex, 40+life? (and the ring miss the important ar anyway) it is hard to obtain and even classic dupe does not have the stat that high.
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I had the chance to buy SIMILAR ring (20str,11dex,32life,18mana,11allres,stamina) and you Paul cannot imagine the price!!!
 
Jerion said:
You'll have no ar [even with 39x3/20/20's it will be very low, +117 overall], so said zealot will just walk up, complete a 2fps blocking animation, and proceed to zeal you to death you.
Imo, you've focused WAY too much on the shallow "WOW!" stats [life], and not enough of the other useful mods. To list a few that you are lacking in:
Attack Rating
A shield [ties into attack rating]
Faster hit recovery
Run/walk speed --> you have no tele
Combat proc mods [OW, DS, CB, etc]
Can't think of more right now, kinda tired


I tihnk you made a math error here, unless you don't mention another source of %life gain.
It should be:
2558*6.67 = 17061.86 adjusted life

In conclusion, I really think this was just a "How much life can a Werebear get?" thread gone horribly, horribly wrong.
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its 7.67 because its 1 + %life. say if its 20% extra life, u dont do xxxx * 0.2, u do, xxxx * (1 + 0.2).

math class!
 
its so fundamental.

this build is like a baal in PvP, u dont do high dmg to others, but u do have a high life,

over time, u will die, but just slower.
 
even though the numbers are way over the top, due to poor math + unheard of equipment, imagine if this thing were a reality. You could kill your opponents from boredom waiting for you to finish pre-buffing. If i EVER saw this in a duel game, bet your right sock you'd get a fireclaw in the face while you bo'd.

SV
 
Sorry to tell you, but even if it was possible, you would suck. No meat shield, no defence, no resists, no attack speed, lousy attack rating. And one more thing: you will be under constant hitrecovery and draining healing potions.
 
Gods... this one still going ? :eek:

By now the dead horse (bear) is nothing more than a stain on the ground... must we beat on that some more ? o.O
 
Paul, make the build and I'd love to duel you.

The warpike idea is just a waste... You say if I tele in, you'll run and attack?

Listen to this, I tele, you run, I tele again :O, WHILE you're swinging for that first tele, I'll zeal/whatever.. think about it...
 
it has been mentioned several times by lots of users now, there's no point in keeping this thread alive. I guess that either Paul is on vacation, or he tries to create this bear thingy to prove us all wrong. No matter what I don't think we'll see him the next couple of days unless he gives up about this build already of course.
 
Corect me if I'm wrong but the damage although it's great 6k, it's at the atack speed of the wearbear, what is that 15 frames the fastest? can that compare to a fanatic zealot with 3k at 4 frames. I think not.
My paly (he is real) is not godly but I belive he can take this theortical godly Bear out in a duel, if anyone builds it.
 
Cheetor said:
Corect me if I'm wrong but the damage although it's great 6k, it's at the atack speed of the wearbear, what is that 15 frames the fastest? can that compare to a fanatic zealot with 3k at 4 frames. I think not.
My paly (he is real) is not godly but I belive he can take this theortical godly Bear out in a duel, if anyone builds it.
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Standard WB attack with no IAS and an ancient axe = 1 aps (24 fpa)

With [p] Grief phase he'll have 8 fpa (3,1 aps) (suggested by Batuchka)
With [p] Grief zerker (Paul's first idea) he'll have 12 fpa (2 aps)
With [p] ebotdwp (Which Paul changed it into) he'll have 15 fpa (1,6 aps)
The damage will of course be greater than 6k with ebotdwp, but he'll never ever get a blow in, and even if he did, it probably wouldn't be a 1 hit KO.

I guess his best chance would be getting a lucky high strike that takes maybe 60% of the enemies life. In that way the enemy might get scared and start running away = free blow oppotunity, which should hit in 3/4 cases. Or is it 2/3? Still this would probably happen about 1/1000 times. So a winning rate of 1/1000 :lol:
 
I guess his best chance would be getting a lucky high strike that takes maybe 60% of the enemies life. In that way the enemy might get scared and start running away = free blow oppotunity, which should hit in 3/4 cases. Or is it 2/3? Still this would probably happen about 1/1000 times. So a winning rate of 1/1000 :lol:[/QUOTE]

You mean 1/1000 in favour of the paly or right?
A little confusing all that "enemie and stuff".
 
LuckyDwarf said:
The bottom line is that, while this setup may give you a .43% better chance to beat a budget character who has.. *cough* ..skill and experience, this amount of wealth and time could be poured into getting a second job, a third job, a fourth job, and a fifth job. I suggest, however, that you concentrate on making sense, as well as polish up on the mechanics of the PvP world, before you rush in flaunting an idea that, quite frankly, is a complete waste.

Lucky
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i find it hilarious you saying this when you have over 2000 posts on a forum about a game and the other guy has just a bit over 80.

eh.

let the guy try it. maybe the build will suck at pvp. maybe it'll take him months to get half the gear he wants.

but one things for sure... if he does, he would accomplished something no one else has.

i say do it dude. you've made some mistakes sure, and those who have taken the time to input have pointed that out. now take what you can from their advice and try it out. get everything in order and if it looks good on paper. build it and try it. its the only way to find out. you'll have fun doing it and you'll learn a thing or two on the way i'm sure.

then maybe the next build you make... will be better.

its how EXPERIENCED players get EXPERIENCED.

you dont get experienced my listening to others and following others ppls ideas.

good luck and dont give up.
 
exhausted mule said:
i find it hilarious you saying this when you have over 2000 posts on a forum about a game and the other guy has just a bit over 80.

eh.
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you better check yourself before you make me wreck yourself
 
exhausted mule said:
...maybe it'll take him months to get half the gear he wants


you dont get experienced my listening to others and following others ppls ideas.
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Months?! The godliest ring I have *ever* seen had around 17 str and 15 dex. With 30 life also, now if it paul a few years to find a ring half as good, I have an eth levi for him...

IMO, you DO get experienced by listening to others, otherwise you would not be asking questions and would not be getting answers.(also applies to real life..) Also, I do think that following other people's ideas are not that bad, as long as you also follow your own ideas.
 
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