19000 life, 6651 one hand damage, 35% damage resist, 62% block - kodiak bear build

I can see that a some of the gear stays the same but:

3 full inventories of charms (10*Summons, 10*Shifting, 39SC 3/20/20)
You can carry only one set at a time meaning that you will have to carry the other two sets in your stash, meaning everytime the warcries wear off you will have to run back to your stash to change all the charms over, but since you cant warcry in town you will have to run in and out of town a couple of times to do all this. Moving 39 small charms to and from your inventory! Gah! BO lasts a couple minutes but you'll a lot of time time moving charms to and from your inventory - all in you have 59 charms to move - even at one a second thats a minute gone already - ignoring gear changes and going in and out of town.

Add to this one mostly complete spare set of gear for the final stage, and a couple of bits and pieces for the other stages - with 2 full sets of charms in your stash you may find it hard to fit this in.

Difficulty in getting equipment: I play on Europe, but drop rates for gear are the same on europe as East, so although there are more people finding stuff on East there should also be more wanting stuff, evening out supply and demand. This makes a very large and error filled assumption that all (or even most!) gear available is legit.
You are looking for 20 skillers, 39 perfect small charms, perfect gear otherwise, a perfect anni, some of the best kit in the game and an enigma. In my humble opinion this gear can be reasonably classified as "difficult to get". Or at least "difficult to get if you want to have a good idea it's not duped". How often do you find a Ber rune? Really?
 
Stevebo said:
I can see that a some of the gear stays the same but:

3 full inventories of charms (10*Summons, 10*Shifting, 39SC 3/20/20)
You can carry only one set at a time meaning that you will have to carry the other two sets in your stash, meaning everytime the warcries wear off you will have to run back to your stash to change all the charms over, but since you cant warcry in town you will have to run in and out of town a couple of times to do all this. Moving 39 small charms to and from your inventory! Gah! BO lasts a couple minutes but you'll a lot of time time moving charms to and from your inventory - all in you have 59 charms to move - even at one a second thats a minute gone already - ignoring gear changes and going in and out of town.

Add to this one mostly complete spare set of gear for the final stage, and a couple of bits and pieces for the other stages - with 2 full sets of charms in your stash you may find it hard to fit this in.

Difficulty in getting equipment: I play on Europe, but drop rates for gear are the same on europe as East, so although there are more people finding stuff on East there should also be more wanting stuff, evening out supply and demand. This makes a very large and error filled assumption that all (or even most!) gear available is legit.
You are looking for 20 skillers, 39 perfect small charms, perfect gear otherwise, a perfect anni, some of the best kit in the game and an enigma. In my humble opinion this gear can be reasonably classified as "difficult to get". Or at least "difficult to get if you want to have a good idea it's not duped". How often do you find a Ber rune? Really?


Yeah, you are right about all these things, I know it will be hard to switch everything and so on, but I thin it worth being done, just imagine, coockie cut barb or some coockie cut pally coming at you with 3k life, thinking he has godly zealot, trying to hit you, and BOOM, he does such a low damage to your life that he wants to run to town and ask you how much life you got, just imagine going one on one, while you have 19000 and his pally has 3000, and he has lower damage, this is 6 times more life, as batuchka said it will be one mean bear, however, despite all these controversies, I WILL make this bear, but first I'll gather all nececary gear, and first runewords, than uniques, though I have half uniques I need, and only than I'll start searching for these rare items.

I know that this switching will be long, but you may not switch all this charms and you will still have 17000 life, which is anyway enormous, yeah you are right the items are difficult to get, but I'm making rush/mf char now, specifically to magic find and rush, I don't evejn hesitate about getting enigma or SOJ, these are easy to get, very easy, if you know people, one sorc with 800 mf just presented me stormshield, just like that, she said, "OH you need one, take this" I was shocked, the only items I worry of are these rare belt, and rare rings, armor and circlet, I worry about them, they will be hard to get, becasue ppl don't use them, which means they don't keep them, they sell it, I dn't worry about that "easy" unique and runeword stuff I worry about rare and magical items.


Guys I always wanted to ask someone about a term "DUPE" I understand that it means copy, but how they copy items on ladder? is it legit?

thank you.
 
Paul barbarian said:
Yeah, you are right about all these things, I know it will be hard to switch everything and so on, but I thin it worth being done, just imagine, coockie cut barb or some coockie cut pally coming at you with 3k life, thinking he has godly zealot, trying to hit you, and BOOM, he does such a low damage to your life that he wants to run to town and ask you how much life you got, just imagine going one on one, while you have 19000 and his pally has 3000, and he has lower damage, this is 6 times more life, as batuchka said it will be one mean bear, however, despite all these controversies, I WILL make this bear, but first I'll gather all nececary gear, and first runewords, than uniques, though I have half uniques I need, and only than I'll start searching for these rare items.

I know that this switching will be long, but you may not switch all this charms and you will still have 17000 life, which is anyway enormous, yeah you are right the items are difficult to get, but I'm making rush/mf char now, specifically to magic find and rush, I don't evejn hesitate about getting enigma or SOJ, these are easy to get, very easy, if you know people, one sorc with 800 mf just presented me stormshield, just like that, she said, "OH you need one, take this" I was shocked, the only items I worry of are these rare belt, and rare rings, armor and circlet, I worry about them, they will be hard to get, becasue ppl don't use them, which means they don't keep them, they sell it, I dn't worry about that "easy" unique and runeword stuff I worry about rare and magical items.


Guys I always wanted to ask someone about a term "DUPE" I understand that it means copy, but how they copy items on ladder? is it legit?

thank you.
lol.
I will assume you are ladder. If not, read my post for fun.
First of all, you won't be able to make this bear. To be able to get all those rares will take forever. I've been looking for certain rares since the beginning of ladder, and no one has any or even said that they sold something like it.
Second of all, your stash definately wont hold all this gear that you plan to switch in and out.
Third of all, you were shocked that someone gave you an SS. I find at least 1 SS daily. SS don't come as a shock to people that mf everyday or that has godly gear.
Fourth of all, the drops for some of that gear is next to impossible to drop. Good luck assembling those rares.
Fifth of all, you diss cookie cutter barbs and pallys with 3k life. Cookie cutter barbs definately have more than 3k life, and zealer pallys aren't great at dueling. Worst of all, you won't have much res, so dream chargers will own you, among other good elemental duelers. Also, hammerdins will still own you too, and pretty much any teler, as you can't tele while shifted.
Sixth of all, item duping on East. Please stop talking. These are legit forums.
Seventh of all, you don't seem to be knowledgeable about dueling at all. You don't even talk about matchups, all you claim is that your massive life will save you.
Eighth of all, Oak dies very easily. In your order, you don't BO it. Even if you do, it'll die 1 hit to nearly any dueler.
Good day.
 
Paul barbarian said:
I checked it, not on this bear, but on other chars, ok?

Paul barbarian said:
Hi ppl, I have to get a lot of good stuff for my bear druid, so, I decided to make MF/rush sorc,

You do or don't have the items? :p

Yes OAK will vanish so Paul will have to switch all his gear to get it back at previous stage.

SS = Lem
even if you find 1 SS which you trade into 1 lem every day it would take:
3*2^13 days, or something, to find a zod which have about the same drop chance as those rares I guess :)

Beside if you want a legal enigma or other runeword for that matter you'll have to use legal runes which probably will require that you'll find them yourself or cube other low runes into them.

Yes Dupe = Copied items which is very illegal. I can't see how you can think it shoudln't be? It's like yeah I just found an El rune, so I'll dupe a billion and make zod, which I'll dupe into another billion, sell most of them and get lots of hard to find items, which will get duped and sold aso. While the legat playing player would only have found an El... just as an example ;)

EDIT: btw. shouldn't you change your name into Paul Druid now? :lol:
 
MonsterSlayer said:
EDIT: btw. shouldn't you change your name into Paul Druid now? :lol:
dont joke about that, he WAS called paul summoner (as in summon druid with 2343452346k damage bear which would kill all etc:uhhuh: ) but then made that acc as he felt it reflected his current play better.
Mod banned the other acc for him.
 
MagicMoron said:
lol.
I will assume you are ladder. If not, read my post for fun.
First of all, you won't be able to make this bear. To be able to get all those rares will take forever. I've been looking for certain rares since the beginning of ladder, and no one has any or even said that they sold something like it.
Second of all, your stash definately wont hold all this gear that you plan to switch in and out.
Third of all, you were shocked that someone gave you an SS. I find at least 1 SS daily. SS don't come as a shock to people that mf everyday or that has godly gear.
Fourth of all, the drops for some of that gear is next to impossible to drop. Good luck assembling those rares.
Fifth of all, you diss cookie cutter barbs and pallys with 3k life. Cookie cutter barbs definately have more than 3k life, and zealer pallys aren't great at dueling. Worst of all, you won't have much res, so dream chargers will own you, among other good elemental duelers. Also, hammerdins will still own you too, and pretty much any teler, as you can't tele while shifted.
Sixth of all, item duping on East. Please stop talking. These are legit forums.
Seventh of all, you don't seem to be knowledgeable about dueling at all. You don't even talk about matchups, all you claim is that your massive life will save you.
Eighth of all, Oak dies very easily. In your order, you don't BO it. Even if you do, it'll die 1 hit to nearly any dueler.
Good day.


I WILL be able to make this bear, belive me, all these items are possible, so the bear IS possible, yes you are right, it will be very hard to get him, but it IS possible, yes I'll have to play a lot and to find those belt, rings, amulet and circlet will be a disaster, but it IS possible, and it IS possible to make this bear, though it willl be very hard, ok? :)

OK, I will BO oak first, and please don't tell me about how hard it will be to find rares, I know it is next to impossible, but anyway, it IS possible.

This bear is designed for PURE melee duels, with melee chars, ok? not casters, and since he has 19000 life, he will not be easily killed, LOL, plus to this, I have met a lot of peope who are proud of their zealers, saying that they are godly and nothing can beat them.

for melee chars I assume that player will have to come close to me, whether he is tele or not, he will have to come in melee with me to hit me, and here is where my 6000 damage will play it's role, and 62% block, and 35% damage resist.

I will be making this bear for very long time, but I think I'll make it, for first time I'll not use such a godly rares, but something not as good, but with similar modifiers.


LOL, I'm a bit knowledgable about gear, not about duels, but anyway, it's not just life, it's block, it's damage, it's defence that will save me.


About some gear:

For hundred times I have seen these amulets (+3 to summon or to SS), for hundred times, first good amulet I have on NM or Hell is usually +3 to some skill tabs of asassin or barb, or druid, I don't know about you guys, but I'm finding them pretty often.


OK, to clear things up:

I will try to make this bear, BUT this thread is an example that this bear is POSSIBLE, do you guys agree that this bear is possible to make (don't mention how hard it'll be), just tell me, are these items not legit or what?
These items are possible to find and such a bear will be possible to make, I'm not saying I have one, I'm only saying that one is possible to make in a game, OK?

Why some of you are allways against unusual ideas (to the point is usually that guy), why you are trying to convince me it is a bad idea, or it is impossible, or that he will be easily killed, or something like this, I know it's possible, I know it is hard to make one, but at least I'll try, and if I make one, 19000 life, 6000 damage, 62% block and 35% damage resist is not a joke, there is NO way to easily kill this bear in melee combat, using physical damage, yes, without enigma char is not viable versus casters, but versus melee guys dealing physical damage he will be a formidable enemy.
 
ToThePoint said:
dont joke about that, he WAS called paul summoner (as in summon druid with 2343452346k damage bear which would kill all etc:uhhuh: ) but then made that acc as he felt it reflected his current play better.
Mod banned the other acc for him.


OH, give me a break, what I see here is that I found a way to create a HUGE bear druid and you failed to spoil this idea, so, you now have found something else bad to say about me, right?


P.S. I'll not change my name anymore, ok?


And guys, I know it's legit forum, I don't ask anyone to dupe something, but I ask HOW they dupe items, I don't see any way to do it?
 
Paul barbarian said:
OH, give me a break, what I see here is that I found a way to create a HUGE bear druid and you failed to spoil this idea, so, you now have found something else bad to say about me, right?


P.S. I'll not change my name anymore, ok?


And guys, I know it's legit forum, I don't ask anyone to dupe something, but I ask HOW they dupe items, I don't see any way to do it?

THOU SHALT NOT MEDDLE IN DUPES OR CHEATS

Thus speaketh a very wise and old bear...
 
Ok, calm down! You will make it... uuhhhh.. probably ...one day ..or another in the worst way! :D But for sure if you have both for relatives Duncan McLaud and GandalfTheGrey(i have heard a rumor that they are cousins! :lol:

Hm, but what is the duration of the BO lvl 20 from CTA - 220seconds or more??( you wants legal CTA 6/6/4 i suppose - how much legal ohms thats means :confused: )
How often you will exchange charm gear to Buff BO? Don't forget that in wereform casting BO is immpossible. So you will have to switch the charm set of shape skillers too, if you want maximum lycantropy life bonus after each BO casting!
The oak will die very very often, so no matter to mention it - you will switch your charms like a crazy!
And hm, while you are moving all those charms from one place to other, when we will be supposed to do the MOST IMPORTANT THING WITH ANY CHARACTER BUILD:
TO PLAY THIS M*****F****** GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:mad:

P.S. If you are keen on creating "PERFECT LOD BUILD" you have to know that - such thing doesn't exist (all players have their own best build)!
And tons of life does not mean you will be able to dominate - your 19k life Druid will be the best Test-Dummy ever!
The good character IS THE WELL BALANCED CHARACTER!!!
Except life, what about the other statistics - Resistances, FHR, Block RATE%, damage options like DS,CB,OW; defence, Attack Rating????
 
MonsterSlayer said:
You do or don't have the items? :p

Yes OAK will vanish so Paul will have to switch all his gear to get it back at previous stage.

SS = Lem
even if you find 1 SS which you trade into 1 lem every day it would take:
3*2^13 days, or something, to find a zod which have about the same drop chance as those rares I guess :)

Beside if you want a legal enigma or other runeword for that matter you'll have to use legal runes which probably will require that you'll find them yourself or cube other low runes into them.

Yes Dupe = Copied items which is very illegal. I can't see how you can think it shoudln't be? It's like yeah I just found an El rune, so I'll dupe a billion and make zod, which I'll dupe into another billion, sell most of them and get lots of hard to find items, which will get duped and sold aso. While the legat playing player would only have found an El... just as an example ;)

EDIT: btw. shouldn't you change your name into Paul Druid now? :lol:


OK, I'll repeat it to you, I HAVE SOME OF GEAR,


And finally, WTF, you are entering this site every morning and searching new posts by me or what? Or I should not post anythig so that you don't make fun of name or posts?

Ok go ahead write something about my every post.
 
gosh you guys are lame. the point is that its possible to have a bear with life past 15k and still have good resist, stats etc. the life would also skyrocket if you had a freind of yours barb bo for you. (im just saying this because i always pub pk wit ha freind)
 
dkay said:
gosh you guys are lame. the point is that its possible to have a bear with life past 15k and still have good resist, stats etc. the life would also skyrocket if you had a freind of yours barb bo for you. (im just saying this because i always pub pk wit ha freind)

You are absolutely right about the 15k life Bear, but the thread is about 19k life Bear...
 
Dad Daniel said:
Ok, calm down! You will make it... uuhhhh.. probably ...one day ..or another in the worst way! :D But for sure if you have both for relatives Duncan McLaud and GandalfTheGrey(i have heard a rumor that they are cousins! :lol:

Hm, but what is the duration of the BO lvl 20 from CTA - 220seconds or more??( you wants legal CTA 6/6/4 i suppose - how much legal ohms thats means :confused: )
How often you will exchange charm gear to Buff BO? Don't forget that in wereform casting BO is immpossible. So you will have to switch the charm set of shape skillers too, if you want maximum lycantropy life bonus after each BO casting!
The oak will die very very often, so no matter to mention it - you will switch your charms like a crazy!
And hm, while you are moving all those charms from one place to other, when we will be supposed to do the MOST IMPORTANT THING WITH ANY CHARACTER BUILD:
TO PLAY THIS M*****F****** GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:mad:

P.S. If you are keen on creating "PERFECT LOD BUILD" you have to know that - such thing doesn't exist (all players have their own best build)!
And tons of life does not mean you will be able to dominate - your 19k life Druid will be the best Test-Dummy ever!
The good character IS THE WELL BALANCED CHARACTER!!!
Except life, what about the other statistics - Resistances, FHR, Block RATE%, damage options like DS,CB,OW; defence, Attack Rating????


If you would have read my first post carefully, you would probably nortice, that for buffing BO no charms are needed, I'll have 20% DS, defence and AR I didn't yet calculated, but I think there will be enough because werebear and shout offer good defence and charms, maul, rings offer good AR, but anyway, I'll calculate those later. I will say it again, this char is intended to be versus melee guys dealing physical damage.
 
dkay said:
gosh you guys are lame. the point is that its possible to have a bear with life past 15k and still have good resist, stats etc. the life would also skyrocket if you had a freind of yours barb bo for you. (im just saying this because i always pub pk wit ha freind)


THx, that's what I meant, that it is possible to make char with past 15k life and still have good damage, stats and block, basically not sacrificing everything in vitality.
 
[QUOTE='22'Souljah]Big Fat Strong Teddy Bear![/QUOTE]

lol. I have to admit I like my HoW bear at 4k life and doing just fine in duels, tyvm.

--welt
 
*CUDDLE*

hi barry, heres some mustard... ran out of ketchup


im so confused on this thread. Make it first before you do anything -___- and provide screenshots.
 
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