This logic can be applied to everyone at this point. It is Common Denominator and can be ruled out. Therefore, I stand behind my logic; I know that Sathoris is not a sane cop, therefore if I was forced to vote for someone today, it'd be him.
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This logic can be applied to everyone at this point. It is Common Denominator and can be ruled out. Therefore, I stand behind my logic; I know that Sathoris is not a sane cop, therefore if I was forced to vote for someone today, it'd be him.
Yep! You got any secret information on day 0 that would better clarify the game?
And you believe you are not a paranoid cop. And you investigated Zokar?
Vote: Goryani
I did NOT investigate myself. I submitted a self investigation and changed it to another player in this game. The result I got was town. I am not interested in divulging my target at this time.
This makes no sense to me. I was not implicating you (although, now I am wondering), but was more making a point that goryani claimed that he investigated you and yet is confident that he isn't paranoid. Riddle me that?
Paranoid cops only return mafia results. It's the definition of a paranoid cop. I did not receive a mafia result. Therefore, I am not a paranoid cop.
I guess I could have been more explicit or pinpointed the comment for context:
Ironic coming from me, but there it is anyway.
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So we have a 4th guilty result claim now from Numbers. I recall saying yesterday that his response to Bad Ash's post didn't feel town. In light of him coming in with the 4th guilty claim, which now means that at least 50% of the guilty results claimed are erroneous, and that off reaction yesterday ... does he move ahead of Sathoris on the preferred lynch order?
I don't think your supposition makes sense drixx? Or at least, that your point that me posting the 4th guilty result is meaningful in any way. If you think there are too many guilty results, then *everyone* who said they received a guilty result has the same...umm..stigma, I guess?...as I do. So your basically just reiterating that you don't think it's town of me to think that BA pointing out that no lynching costs the town 33% of the opportunities to catch scum they'll have in the shortest possible time frame for the game to run, barring doc saves/other shenanigans.
Anyways...
Let's do a little thought experiment. There were 9 players to start. 2 were scum. From what everyones saying, there were definitely at least 6(because cdm may have been something other than cop) cop roles. Among those cop roles, we can speculate that there was 1 each of paranoid, sane, insane, and naive. And 2-3 other cops that could have been anything among those four categories. If the scum are also cops, then we can speculate that the game started with 2 of each type of cop, plus an additional of one type. In the first scenario, where the scum aren't cops, given that most investigations are likely going to be on town players, the insane cops are likely to result in mafia, and the paranoid will always return mafia. So that's likely 2 scum results, from what are statistically likely town investigations, from just 4 of the 6 or 7 investigative roles. if there's even one more paranoid cop, or an insane cop, then we have 3. If we look at the second scenario, and we have 8 investigative roles in play today, then again, 4 guilty results seem fairly reasonable.
Basically, I don't really see anything meaningful or special about the pool of results that we get from a single nights round of investigations. We need more information to determine ANYONES sanity. Once we establish that, through multiple investigations (or, potentially, though I think this would be a mistake, lynch someone who has investigative results on them FOR THE PURPOSE OF VERIFYING SANITY, and not because we have more reason than a questionable investigative result to think they're scum), then the truth behind other investigations should be known very quickly, and we should be able to identify the scum very quickly.
So...after all that...I'm starting to lean more towards the long no lynch till we've maximized our knowledge game plan.
Which...coincidentally...makes me doubt the towniness of BA's anti-no lynch stance.
Anyways...
Let's do a little thought experiment. There were 9 players to start. 2 were scum. From what everyones saying, there were definitely at least 6(because cdm may have been something other than cop) cop roles. Among those cop roles, we can speculate that there was 1 each of paranoid, sane, insane, and naive. And 2-3 other cops that could have been anything among those four categories. If the scum are also cops, then we can speculate that the game started with 2 of each type of cop, plus an additional of one type. In the first scenario, where the scum aren't cops, given that most investigations are likely going to be on town players, the insane cops are likely to result in mafia, and the paranoid will always return mafia. So that's likely 2 scum results, from what are statistically likely town investigations, from just 4 of the 6 or 7 investigative roles. if there's even one more paranoid cop, or an insane cop, then we have 3. If we look at the second scenario, and we have 8 investigative roles in play today, then again, 4 guilty results seem fairly reasonable.
Basically, I don't really see anything meaningful or special about the pool of results that we get from a single nights round of investigations. We need more information to determine ANYONES sanity. Once we establish that, through multiple investigations (or, potentially, though I think this would be a mistake, lynch someone who has investigative results on them FOR THE PURPOSE OF VERIFYING SANITY, and not because we have more reason than a questionable investigative result to think they're scum), then the truth behind other investigations should be known very quickly, and we should be able to identify the scum very quickly.
So...after all that...I'm starting to lean more towards the long no lynch till we've maximized our knowledge game plan.
Which...coincidentally...makes me doubt the towniness of BA's anti-no lynch stance.
So let me get this straight, we're thinking about not lynching until when, when its 4-2, 3-2? Because unless we think cdm was mafia,which I dont, its 6-2 right now. Will we be able to garner enough information by 4-2 to lynch a mafia?
So BA, you think the mafia are cops also? Which do you think is more likely, that they would claim that whomever they investigated was town or that they were mafia?
Three nights is the key point. Sane cops can't have 3 guilties and insane cops can't have 3 innocents. A whole lot of pieces will fall into place after N3. We might get actionable results after N2, but we'll have several after N3.
Sorry, missed day end.
Vote count:
Sathoris (0): (Laarz)
Goryani (0): (Bad Ash)
Day 2 has ended and night 2 has started. It will last 24 hours
Vote count:
Sathoris (0): (Laarz)
Goryani (0): (Bad Ash)
Day 2 has ended and night 2 has started. It will last 24 hours
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CG was found dead... maybe it was natural causes?
Ok, I've misjudged the openness of the setup and will be revealing some information.
Cops in this game do not function like any of the standard cop roles
Day 3 has started and will last 48 hours. If the majority decides to "Vote: No lynch" from this day forward to end the day early I can end days earlier. I suspect with the slightly more revealed setup this won't be the case, however.
With 7 players alive it takes 4 to lynch
Ok, I've misjudged the openness of the setup and will be revealing some information.
Cops in this game do not function like any of the standard cop roles
Day 3 has started and will last 48 hours. If the majority decides to "Vote: No lynch" from this day forward to end the day early I can end days earlier. I suspect with the slightly more revealed setup this won't be the case, however.
With 7 players alive it takes 4 to lynch
I think the fact that we need to determine how cops in this game DO function before any of our results make sense makes no lynching even more understandable, unless we dont think we can figure it out? I suppose, considering the likelihood that scum are obfuscating the results, we might not be able to determine how our investigations work at all during the rather limited time we have left before LYLO/MYLO.
I've gotten I was town and one mafia result. One is numbers and one is Gory. Did anyone else investigate numbers or Gory
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