Returning to the Roots - Mini mafia game

You forgot to answer the two questions you quoted. Probably not the best thing to do when trying to show us how eager you are to be involved in discussion.

Here are those questions again: Were you overwhelmed in GOTASOIAF? What crazy theories are flying about this game?



Yes really. D1 is usually the second most important day for discussion (the first day a mafioso is lynched without a guilty verdict is the most important - IMO).



I think you are very wrong on this. I'm even accounting that this quote happened during D1. Again, you are pointing out lack of discussion while not adding any discussion yourself.

I'll also point out the contradiction between the last two quotes. You try to placate me by saying there isn't much to discuss then you complain there hasn't been discussion. Which is it?

I'll try and clear up some confusion here, and actually get to your questions.

I was overwhelmed in ASoIaF because it was my very first game, I had trouble keeping up with all the new lingo and people's trains of thoughts about the game. There was a lot of information to process.

As for the crazy theories part of my post, I meant it in a general sort of sense. Not that there were really any crazy theories flying around but some of them are hard for me to get which makes them seem like stretches for me, this can only be fixed with more game experience and me actually taking the time to check the wiki.

I talked about why I find it hard to add to the discussion early on in one of my earlier posts directed at SI I think, go read that for an explanation because I don't want to turn this into too big a wall of text.

Never did I complain about there not being much discussion, I just said that there wasn't that much discussion so far. A valid statement I guess, although the talk on possible role distribution (layouts) was the main topic of D1, and which caught Moar in a pickle.

I guess the point is: I should try and read up some more on roles and such and respond actively to D1 talk and discussion so I don't get caught in a situation like this.

These are all the Moar votes. Something looks hinky to me. What I notice first is lack of discussion. I've seen cops announce a guilty verdict with more discussion than that. The second thing I notice is that if someone agrees with me, they quote post 96 instead of post 78. Perhaps post 78 isn't as clear as I think it is, but I don't see how post 96 is so utterly convincing while post 78 isn't.

Perhaps I should ask the non-Moar voters.

@ Ankeli, kestegs, Phillinnicus -
Is post 78 clearly not as understandable as post 96? Did it not convince you? Did it not make you curious enough to look back at Moar's posts in order to decide for yourself? Do you think a mafioso Moar voter just skipped over post 78 and instead latched onto post 96 because it's easier to justify? Which player do you think might have done so?

In all honesty, when you guys starting talking about roles and situations in which roles do this and that and so on; I just completely glazed over it. I kept getting lost, so I just didn't even think about it anymore.

Also, I was just kinda ragey at kestegs for putting me on an innocent little scumlist. :P So I didn't really bother changing my vote because it looked like Moar was going to be locked anyway.

I wasn't around enough to read properly and post after casting my vote, ergo, I didn't answer. If I was around, my vote would've stood.



And this is the question? All the reasoning I gave at the time was valid, and I didn't feel the same towards Moar or Gwaihir as they were at least trying to run the conversation forwards. The same lack of that applied to Phil for the duration of the day it seems.



Taking notice of such things would be pulling at strings too thin to justify anything imo. I don't know, can't tell and hence, can't really say anything about it.

My vote however will still find it's way to the same place as it did yesterday. Oh so eager to latch onto a possible train on me for not answering one, rather insignificant question.

Vote: Phillinnicus

I wasn't reaching or latching onto a train for votes against you, it was just a suspicion that I noticed after SI pointed it out. Notice I didn't vote for you, I just put it out there that I agreed with SI on that because it was a little suspicious. Now you've provided solid reasoning so I'm not really that suspicious of you anymore.

I think your vote is a little unfounded.
 
This seals your fate as far as I'm concerned. Stuff like this always gives mafioso up. Good will hunting, we have one more to catch after Phil.
I don't understand how pointing out that I think your vote is a little weak makes me mafia. It seems like you're the one picking at little things now, Ankeli, and it's making me think you're more likely mafia.
 
These are all the Moar votes. Something looks hinky to me. What I notice first is lack of discussion. I've seen cops announce a guilty verdict with more discussion than that. The second thing I notice is that if someone agrees with me, they quote post 96 instead of post 78. Perhaps post 78 isn't as clear as I think it is, but I don't see how post 96 is so utterly convincing while post 78 isn't.

Perhaps I should ask the non-Moar voters.

@ Ankeli, kestegs, Phillinnicus -
Is post 78 clearly not as understandable as post 96? Did it not convince you? Did it not make you curious enough to look back at Moar's posts in order to decide for yourself? Do you think a mafioso Moar voter just skipped over post 78 and instead latched onto post 96 because it's easier to justify? Which player do you think might have done so?

I think when 2 people make a compelling case it's a lot easier to get on board.

Chicken and egg scenario. Did I understand that correctly? Which Phillinucus post(s) gave you the scummy vibe?

not at my comp, but it's the ones in response to me not giving him better info on why I think he's scummy.

No one replies to an idea of massclaiming before N1. :weep:No one for it. No one against it. No one caring one way or the other? Not good. Not good at all.

I kinda meant to but kept forgetting. I don't see any reason to mass claim before lylo at the earliest.

This seals your fate as far as I'm concerned. Stuff like this always gives mafioso up. Good will hunting, we have one more to catch after Phil.

Agreed.

I guess the point is: I should try and read up some more on roles and such and respond actively to D1 talk and discussion so I don't get caught in a situation like this.

No, wouldn't want to get caught! Yikes!
 
I wasn't reaching or latching onto a train for votes against you, it was just a suspicion that I noticed after SI pointed it out. Notice I didn't vote for you, I just put it out there that I agreed with SI on that because it was a little suspicious. Now you've provided solid reasoning so I'm not really that suspicious of you anymore.

I think your vote is a little unfounded.

You sound like yelping Scum to me.

You are trying to avoid conflict, trying to appease. And not only in this post, for most of this game. Mafia hate pressure on them and they try their best to avoid it like the plague. This is a **VERY** strong scumtell in my mind. Combined with your lurking in plain sight this entire game, leads me to believe that you are Bad Ash's scumpartner. I am completely on board with either of your lynches but you more so than him, after the quoted reply.

Unvote: Bad Ash
Vote: Phillinnicus
 
No one replies to an idea of massclaiming before N1. :weep:No one for it. No one against it. No one caring one way or the other? Not good. Not good at all.

I thought I commented on this but maybe not. In this game I don't think a massclaim gets us anything at any point really. Mafia have a guaranteed hide spot in vanilla townie based off of game setup, so it won't catch us mafia. If there is one power role, claiming just puts a bullseye on him. If we have 2, it only helps the doc is present to protect another power role who can get us info. And then the doc is in danger.

As suspects, Phil definitely seems to be acting figity. So as not to repeat the last days mistake, I am going to hold off voting until later.

To the others who have not voted (Gory, BA), what do you think of Phil?
 
I think its extremely early for him to have this many votes. That's what I think.


This is not an indictment of his innocence or guilt. I was going to vote for him until solar did as there's plenty of time left. This train developed quickly and a little too quickly I feel like.



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Correction: extremely might not be correct. But its still early. If we lynch townie today we are in MYLO if a nk goes through and if two votes on phil are scum...shrug

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Correction: extremely might not be correct. But its still early. If we lynch townie today we are in MYLO if a nk goes through and if two votes on phil are scum...shrug

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I know you are Mafia, and you know it. And yet you still want to do everything in your power to prevent the lynch of your scumbuddy?

Wanna play then?

Unvote: Phllinnicus
 
Current votes:
Phillinnicus (2) : Ankeli; kestegs
Solar Ice (1): Bad Ash
Bad Ash (1): Solar Ice


I'm around, but hella busy today preparing for my upcoming vacation. I'll make sure to stop in as often as I can. If there's a lock I'll close the day out at 3:00 PM PST (~4 hours, 45 minutes), but if no lock then I'll keep the day open another 24 hours.
 
I know you are Mafia, and you know it. And yet you still want to do everything in your power to prevent the lynch of your scumbuddy?

Wanna play then?

Unvote: Phllinnicus


flip. flop. flip. flop.

and I am scum because I dont want to put someone -1 lock with a potential 30 hours left in the day?
 
flip. flop. flip. flop.

and I am scum because I dont want to put someone -1 lock with a potential 30 hours left in the day?

You are Scum because you are defending someone who may well be and are trying to lynch someone who is not. Without a real reason to do so. You have jumped on me since Day start and can not seem to let go.
 
You are Scum because you are defending someone who may well be and are trying to lynch someone who is not. Without a real reason to do so. You have jumped on me since Day start and can not seem to let go.

A. I am not nor have I defended Phil as townie or scum. I stated it was too early to lock him. You obviously disagree so explain to me why its a good idea to lock him. I am all ears.

B. I have jumped on you since day 1? I don't think I voted for you, and said you were scum once with serious sarcasm tags due to your LAMIST this and LAMIST that. I don't even know if I want to lynch you today but you are giving me very little choice with your posts.
 
B. I have jumped on you since day 1? I don't think I voted for you, and said you were scum once with serious sarcasm tags due to your LAMIST this and LAMIST that. I don't even know if I want to lynch you today but you are giving me very little choice with your posts.

Day start. Not Day 1. And yes, it did (does) look LAMIST to me.

I will wait to see what, if anything, Phillinnicus, has to say before re-placing my vote on him.
 
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