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[pharphis]

I'm sure of what Moar did and we will assume Pyro is telling the truth.

This point is very interesting. There are variables, of course, but this is too much to ignore.

That's why my vote is on Gwaihir. It does seem more likely that this is the cause then it does that I saved twice in a row.

 

[nulio]

If I'm a treestump and I say I'm a treestump then there's no way the scum would spend a NK on me, and fail. Could it be the event that could help the town?

If I'm not a treestump and I say I'm a treestump I could avoid being a scum target?

If I'm not a treestump and reveal something more about my role I could render it useless.


Me making flubbucket nervous, is making me nervous about him. Scummy Laarz right before dying tried to put some attention on me, maybe flubbucket is trying to do the same and is scum?


Gwaihir was also too curious about my role/powers and from what coju says he's probably scum also.

 

[flubbucket1]

I have someone to back up my claim as town. What do you have but yourself saying "I am town." How foolish would I be to allow such a thing to go unchecked.

 

[flubbucket1]

This app is somewhat annoying because it won't let me go back and read while typing up a reply.

Anyway, I think our best bet for information today is Gwaihir. If he's town, then coju is also town, (excluding the idea of a SK w/o killing abilities - perma role blockers, do they actually exist?). If he's scum, well, we can't confirm anything about coju based on just that.

Why?? I don't see the connection between lynching Gwaihir and him showing up town, and this means coju is now proven to be town.

That's why my vote is on Gwaihir. It does seem more likely that this is the cause then it does that I saved twice in a row.

Now I do hope you aren't doubting your super power of intrumentality ....:whistling:

 

[pharphis]

What I meant is that if Gwaihir is town, and therefore wasn't blocked for the the NK by the drinks, then it means I must have saved coju.

 

[Pyrotechnician1]

Huh. Well, no NK's for the past couple of nights, and the only saving role left is the doc. So from my persepective, you must have had some good guesses on your part phar. On the other hand, I see Moar and Pyro have targeted me again, which makes complete sense. I can see how that is suspicious, and understand if I need to go, but it unfortunately won't get us anywhere.

Really at this point my only defense is this:
I have voted for every scum so far, except CG (Although I stated I would lynch him, I just wanted to see if Laarz or coju would lock a claimed bomb, as I found those two very suspicious at the time). I voted for Gory, voted frozzzen first, voted Mal, voted Jcakes first, and voted Laarz. I was after Laarz and Jcakes for multiple days trying to get them lynched.

As for my current theory: I don't get how spiking drinks is a pro-town ability. Especially when it reversed the read on a cop from guilty to innocent. His role really worries me. Anyways, my top suspect is definitely Pyro, for his very suspicious role. Still a little suspicious of coju for his odd play, although he seemed to be really sumhunting yesterday.

Thats probably the best defense you are going to make too, however we have seen multiple times that scum have willingly voted for their scum partners so I doubt you wouldn't do the same. coju made an actual effort yesterday which is both shocking and amazing at the same time.

Not really expanding on this, but looking at it from the other perspective (where Moar is scum, and not pyro). If Moar is recruited then that means she could just be lying all these nights about the target, claiming Gwaihir whenever there isn't a kill.


That must have been easy!

Pretty interesting theory, and it would be easy for her to slip by since we all seem to think if one of the remaining masons was scum it would have to be flubbucket.

I don't like votes without comment when there is still more than 24 hours left. I hope you explain later.

I really have no clue on what the spiking does. We didn't have a NK, so it's worth considering that it could be a roleblock. Another alternative is that pharphis blocked a kill on coju. And yet another possibility is that Jcakes "3 person roleblock" means that he could roleblock 3 people for the whole game and we have a SK among us that can't kill anymore.

I simply don't know which is the most likely of those alternatives.

Having a 3 person roleblock and having it apply for the whole game seems excedingly overpowered and unlikely (although I guess it would balance out the game). Don't think I've ever seen it work like that though.

Yes, actually I do think it is odd, so I agree with Gwaihir in that respect, and it seems to make the most sense that Pyro would be the anti-town counterpart, on many levels (the spiking action, itself, the only person who does so, the rest of you being masons and therefore not scum, the results of that investigation ).

Yeah, I suppose the mason group's power diminishes over time, and only 2 rather than 3 or more is significantly less powerful.

I'm not sure why I'm being pegged as the anti-town counterpart here. If I really was the antitown counterpart I don't think I would come out and say "hey yeah look at me, I spike drinks". I'm trying to work with what we know to the best of my ability. Up until the point where we came out and claimed my choices had been random as I didn't know the effect, the masons, although they claimed they were masons, made no mention of their "person selection" power, so I'm pretty sure it would have been much safer to go with some made up claim like "bomb" or "bodygaurd", something much more simple and easier to explain rather than something as strange as Jcakes toilet seat debacle last game, anything to not draw constant attention to myself each day phase.

This app is somewhat annoying because it won't let me go back and read while typing up a reply.

Anyway, I think our best bet for information today is Gwaihir. If he's town, then coju is also town, (excluding the idea of a SK w/o killing abilities - perma role blockers, do they actually exist?). If he's scum, well, we can't confirm anything about coju based on just that.

What I meant is that if Gwaihir is town, and therefore wasn't blocked for the the NK by the drinks, then it means I must have saved coju.

Your first statement didn't make any sense until your second one. If you aren't scum then I guess that would be the only logical explanation.

Further explanation:
Pharphis' actions and comments have been noted as scummy to other people besides myself. Gwaihir has also been deemed scummy as well.
I'd reckon one of them are indeed scum. If not them two exactly, take out a name and put nulio's or flubbucket's in there.

Two nights in a role blocking gwaihir, correct? 2 nights without a nk, correct? Too late in game to be coincidence. Thanks for choosing me to save, pharphis. I do appreciate it, inspite of my vote against you.

So everyone but you, me, and Moar are scum? That narrows it down.

 

[Gwaihir]

Well, we have seen a pattern of voting to protect mafia allies: Gory on CG, CG on Jcakes. Jcakes didn't vote which protected coju from getting lynched. Therefore I have to go with what makes the most sense to me.

Vote 1: coju

 

[Gwaihir]

Random thought:
Pyro, are you required to spike drinks, or can you just not spike?
Moar/flubb, are you required to serve drinks, or can you just not serve?

 

[Gwaihir]

Random thought:
Pyro, are you required to spike drinks, or can you just not spike?
Moar/flubb, are you required to serve drinks, or can you just not serve?

Also, what was spiked each night Pyro?
Once you get that, can you say who they were served to Moar/flubb?

 

[Pyrotechnician1]

Random thought:
Pyro, are you required to spike drinks, or can you just not spike?
Moar/flubb, are you required to serve drinks, or can you just not serve?

As far as I am aware if I don't send in a pm then nothing gets spiked. It doesn't specifically say it anywhere but I would assume it would work like any other role where if you don't use it nothing happens.

 

[Thyiad1]

You got 4.5 hours, people.

Day 10 - 6 alive

Vote 1: 3 to lynch, 4 to lock

Vote 2: 6 to lynch

Vote 1:
Gwaihir 2 (pharphis, coju)
coju 1 (Gwaihir)

Vote 2:
pharphis 1 (coju)

Votes

Spoiler

1818 - pharphis Vote 1: Gwaihir
1828 - coju Vote 1: Gwaihir
1828 - coju Vote 2: pharphis
1847 - Gwaihir Vote 1: coju

 

[Pyrotechnician1]

Also, what was spiked each night Pyro?
Once you get that, can you say who they were served to Moar/flubb?

Night 1: Gin
Night 2: White Wine
Night 3: Beer
Night 4: Tequila
Night 5: Scotch
Night 6: Gin
Night 7: Gin
Night 8: Gin
Night 9: Gin

Choices look pretty bland at the end there.

 

[pharphis]

Thoughts about 3-shot perma roleblockers:

Why wouldn't he have just targeted the cop? This makes more sense to me then risking a mislynch on the cop (by the doc interfering, or ANOTHER jailkeeper, etc).

@ Pyro,
Well, you clearly didn't make up your role. I was only saying that of the people involved with the drinks yours stands out, and therefore would be more likely to be scum, as opposed to ALL of the masons being scum.

 

[Moar]

Sorry haven't been around today. N1 was ML, N6 and N7 cujo, N8 and N9 Gwaihir. I don't remeber the other nights. Pretty sure I had Pyro in there once. I've deleted the PMs due to space. I can probably look it up in the night thread, but not allowed to do that before the next night phase.

I have spiked every night, but not everybody has I think. Pretty sure the white wine person didn't spike N2. Again, I will have to read that up.

I'd like to hear from flubb before I vote. He seems to have a much better read than I have. If he doesn't show up, I will vote Gwaihir.

 

[pharphis]

What is this, the dead thread?

 

[Gwaihir]

Apparently. Really slowed down this day phase. Some of that can be accounted for by a weekend, but how are we supposed to win if people don't even try!

 

[coju]

Well, we have seen a pattern of voting to protect mafia allies: Gory on CG, CG on Jcakes. Jcakes didn't vote which protected coju from getting lynched. Therefore I have to go with what makes the most sense to me.

Vote 1: coju

Random thought:
Pyro, are you required to spike drinks, or can you just not spike?
Moar/flubb, are you required to serve drinks, or can you just not serve?

You have nothing to say about the coincidentally coincidence of you being served a spiked drink two nights in a roll, and those two nights no NK happened?

 

[coju]

I'll more than likely be out the rest of the day here. Best of luck to all.

 

[flubbucket1]

Night 1: Gin
Night 2: White Wine
Night 3: Beer
Night 4: Tequila
Night 5: Scotch
Night 6: Gin
Night 7: Gin
Night 8: Gin
Night 9: Gin

Choices look pretty bland at the end there.

Okay I double checked my records. I find the evidence to be overwhelmingly circumstantial against Gwaihir.

Vote 1: Gwaihir

 

[Moar]

Flubb was right last day going after Laarz and I don't see that mafia going for mafia at that point would have been logical. So I trust him.

Vote 1: Gwaihir