City Mafia Game Thread

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Well, sadly since I cannot confirm either without my death, and very much sadly I will take someone out with me when I die. Im going to
Unvote: RlyehExiled
Since iirc he was the first to offer his sacrifice on being the last to vote for me.

If we keep me alive, I won't get nkd, as I'd kill who ever nkd me. that's a deciding factor. And someone else already stated that the antitown wouldn't vote for me last...
 
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I will have to go back and find that post now....I thought for sure it was either BA or Val that offered that but I'm going to check to make sure...

Anti-town won't vote for you last obviously since it will kill them (if you really are the bomb and one of the two last remaining is the SK), if it comes down to that the two remaining will probably fight over who should put the last vote on you and will probably ultimately end up voting eachother. If this happens then I guess you get the final say as obviously one of them is more likely to be the anti-town. This is why the whole last day situation worries me, its very uncertain depending on who makes it to the final day.
 
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@Fred: I'll put the last vote on Coju if needs be, if he is the bomb it gets rid of me too, which at the point in time I think I'm more of a distraction than an asset to town, as my unusual choice (one that also can't be confirmed unless I die in the day) is letting the real SK run interference. Consider that I've said today and yesterday "lynch me if you need to then go after the real SK".

I think if you're going down the last vote sacrifical lamb route I'm the best bet to remove, and I'm all for doing that.

@CG: This question might be too much to ask so feel free to not answer, but when is 'the last vote' clocked, is it the locking vote or the very last vote, even if said vote is trival: example: - Say lynch was done at 4, if I was 4th voter then Mr. X voted again the fact Coju was already locked, would my vote or Mr Xs be 'the last'?

Also tomorrow is monday, and I'm not here from 7pm-12am GMT that's in time for day end, but depending on CGs answer might cause problems with the last vote.
 
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Alright then, Rlyeh... let's go for Gambor then? I hope you keep your intention tomorrow.

Unvote: RlyehExiled
Vote: Gambor
 
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Also at this point, I think your best bet is to let me test Cojus claim by blowing myself up, or just lynch me, my playstyle has s-u-c-k-e-d this game with having next to no time to play for the first 3 days, that coupled with my odd role choice didn't do me any favors.

Right now I'm a distraction, I'm not going to get NK'd and reveal information to the town now I've claimed host, but the inplausibleness of said role is causing you all to focus on me, understandably and is going to buy scum an extra night kill - which is bad, and if I live another day just rinse - wash - repeat.

So the question is: Is coju's claim shakey enough for me to test out in a sucide run, and remove a distraction from the town ethier way, or does coju live another day and you lynch me outright?

Predit: I even have a MS word document about my thought process when picking a role, rereading it made me laugh, I'll share it with you at days end.
 
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@Val: We lynching coju tomorrow? I got the impression that was this game day, I will keep my intention as outlined above about my playstle being too distracting to town this game.
 
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Ummm.... I don't know, to be honest; we still have more than 24 hours to discuss it, though. I'm going to sleep.

Unvote: Gambor
 
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@CG: This question might be too much to ask so feel free to not answer, but when is 'the last vote' clocked, is it the locking vote or the very last vote, even if said vote is trival: example: - Say lynch was done at 4, if I was 4th voter then Mr. X voted again the fact Coju was already locked, would my vote or Mr Xs be 'the last'?

I'm not at liberty to answer this question.



 
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Trying to get clever with roles is a bad idea. If you think I'm the SK, lynch me. If you think RE is the SK, lynch him. If you absolutely must, though, put coju at 3, I'll lock him and take the hit.
 
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Why I think lynching coju before any of the others is a priority:

Town only has one investigative role left, the coroner. This info will always be a day phase delayed. The only other info we can get is from lynching. Right now we are most likely at 6 townies vs. 1 SK. If we take out coju today and he is the SK, great! If we take coju out and he is the bomb we get him and another role revealed/confirmed. With the NK that'll still leave us 3 vs. 1 tomorrow. Should be doable. Bottom line - I'm fairly convinced the SK is hiding between either coju, Gambor or Rlyeh - we have the possibility to "lynch" all of these three in the next two days.

If not, I'm still mostly in favour of RE but would be good with Gambor.

I'm mainly concerned about Gwaihir, Pyro, and Val's opinions on this.. What do you guys think? Am I missing something?
 
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Right now we have 2 mislynches before game over. Trying to use coju to get 2 lynches at once force mylo instead of lylo, but doesn't do anything else other than force him to be one of the lynched, and gives the SK the opportunity to try to find a way to "accidentally" not be the one to take the hit.

So, I'll say it again, if you think I'm the SK, lynch me. If you think RE is the SK, lynch him. Trying to get the SK to go along with your plan is a fools game.
 
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If we must try to go for a clever role plan, here's the one to use:

Lynch me today
-4 town 1 sk after night kill
Lynch RE tomorrow
-4 town 1 sk after night kill
Lynch coju last day
-1 town 0 sk

This works because there are three "trusted" townies (Val, Pyro, Gwahir) and 2 night kills so one of them will be alive. On the last day the trusted townie votes first. If coju is lying he is the sk and he gets lynched. If he's telling the truth then the SK has to vote and die or coju and trusted townie vote him winning the game. The flaw in the plan is if one of the three TT's are the SK, or if coju is town but still lying about his role. But this way you get a shot at the other four players.
 
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I do kinda see your point, and hadn't really thought about it that way.

I'll be around pretty much until a couple of hours before day end, so we still have quite a lot of time before we need to make a decision. I'm still waiting to hear from the other guys, but yeah. I see the point in not going after coju today.
 
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Ok guys, not really sure what to do right about now, but yes the fact that I'm worried about is that one of the other "trusted" people make it to the final day and it turns out that they are SK then our plan is flawed from the start. Instead of trying to play this lynch system game, I think we should try to push to find the SK before the final day. I think we should push everyother player while we can still do so this day phase and see if anything else scummy turns up. I'm sorry if any of these questions have been answered before but I'm trying to find answers that may point us to something new.

Question for All - What is your best bet on the SK as of right now concerning everything you know from previous days and the reasoning behind it. Do you think one of the so called "trusted" individuals as Gambor put it could in turn be the SK (this includes me if you really do still have suspicions about me).

Gwaihir: Being the coroner or so you say, what do you think the reasoning is that you weren't lynched and BA was last night, don't you think that the SK would want to remove the last investigative role we have?

Gambor: What made you try to go for role cop, being the last bid I understand the chance of being vanilla was extremely high but then why go for a middle of the road role, why not go for something bigger like cop or doctor, or pick something less likely to be taken (one of the "lesser" power roles)

Individual questions for all so no one feels left out:

Val: Your claim seems pretty solid, but whats the reasoning behind going for the tree stump. Do you think it would have been better served going for some other role? Why did you see it as necessary to claim your "vanilla" status early on.

Coju: We know your reasoning is usually because your coju, but disregarding that fact, if you were to be "sacrificed" who would you want to see put the last vote on you. Do you think it would be better served if you were left alive until the later day phases since if you are the bomb you are unlikely to be nightkilled until the last day and why?

RE: Besides not having the available time to make a lot of posts, why didn't you leave additional breadcrumbs regarding what you were supposively trying to do to get yourself lynched, there is only one post that made mention of "being the cop" and was very indirect so much that the remaining players didn't notice it in the slightest.

FoE: Do you think Gwaihir is only confirming your night kill results only to build credibility or do you think he is in fact the coroner? Its unlikely that you are in fact not the one shot vigilante, but if you had another shot who would you use it on, would you in turn use this one during the day phase?

(Someone has to pose these questions since BA and Goryani aren't here to do it)
 
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Ok guys, not really sure what to do right about now, but yes the fact that I'm worried about is that one of the other "trusted" people make it to the final day and it turns out that they are SK then our plan is flawed from the start. Instead of trying to play this lynch system game, I think we should try to push to find the SK before the final day. I think we should push everyother player while we can still do so this day phase and see if anything else scummy turns up. I'm sorry if any of these questions have been answered before but I'm trying to find answers that may point us to something new.

Question for All - What is your best bet on the SK as of right now concerning everything you know from previous days and the reasoning behind it. Do you think one of the so called "trusted" individuals as Gambor put it could in turn be the SK (this includes me if you really do still have suspicions about me).

Gwaihir: Being the coroner or so you say, what do you think the reasoning is that you weren't lynched and BA was last night, don't you think that the SK would want to remove the last investigative role we have?

Gambor: What made you try to go for role cop, being the last bid I understand the chance of being vanilla was extremely high but then why go for a middle of the road role, why not go for something bigger like cop or doctor, or pick something less likely to be taken (one of the "lesser" power roles)

Individual questions for all so no one feels left out:

Val: Your claim seems pretty solid, but whats the reasoning behind going for the tree stump. Do you think it would have been better served going for some other role? Why did you see it as necessary to claim your "vanilla" status early on.

Coju: We know your reasoning is usually because your coju, but disregarding that fact, if you were to be "sacrificed" who would you want to see put the last vote on you. Do you think it would be better served if you were left alive until the later day phases since if you are the bomb you are unlikely to be nightkilled until the last day and why?

RE: Besides not having the available time to make a lot of posts, why didn't you leave additional breadcrumbs regarding what you were supposively trying to do to get yourself lynched, there is only one post that made mention of "being the cop" and was very indirect so much that the remaining players didn't notice it in the slightest.

FoE: Do you think Gwaihir is only confirming your night kill results only to build credibility or do you think he is in fact the coroner? Its unlikely that you are in fact not the one shot vigilante, but if you had another shot who would you use it on, would you in turn use this one during the day phase?

(Someone has to pose these questions since BA and Goryani aren't here to do it)

SK: My best bet would still be RE. I have stated the reasons several times, but here we go again: I expect the SK to have a relatively high claim. RE has been lurking and had a role claim that cannot be proven until he is dead. However, my coju and Gambor are both close seconds. of the "confirmed" townies:

Gwaihir: He confirmed me and I see no holes in his claim and a general pro-town playstyle. Further more, I don't believe he confirmed me just to build town-cred. Amongst other reasons because his and my info wasn't the same, which I doubt he would have stated if we was just simply trying to confirm me.

Pyro: The original suspicion on you was that you were scum, not SK. You role is very well confirmed from other sources. I'm almost 100% certain you are town.

Val: very early claim. I could see the SK do something like that - however, that would mean he would've taken a wild guess on the tree stump role already being taken. I don't think this is very likely.

Questions to me: as I mentioned, I do think Gwaihir is telling the truth. If I had another shot.. Yes, I'd definitely use it during the day, since I have already claimed. Also kinda regret I didn't do this the first time, but whatevs. But no, I'm not sure I would use it at all since the SK is bulletproof. Of course if I hit the the SK, we would still no who to lynch. I haven't done the math on whether or not it would be benificial to us, and I see no reason to do so for a purely hypothetical scenario. If I had to use it, I would probably use it on RE.


 
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Sorry if some of these questions seem repetitive, just trying to find answers.

The individual questions for all line should be a bit higher but I didn't look at the preview before posting, oops.

Right now I'm leaning towards RE as well, but will wait for further responses before I make my vote but will be sure to do so before day end.
 
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@Pyro: I was trying out a new crumb s ystem to stop everything looking for the one I always put (first post, captial letters spell role name or role hint (Such as DOC or MAT I AM), I didn't want to over do it as I was afraid if I crumbed too many roles I'd get lynched not NK'd and if I crumbed one role too hard that everyone believed me, the real cop couldnt come forward without a counter-claim lynch happening.

I said before my flaw was I was TOO subtle, I should of kept with the method of my first post reading "COP" whilst dropping hints and being a jailkeeper somewhere as well (one more subtle than the other and hope someone didn't catch them both).

As for the SK: I think Gwahir or Coju. A flip-flop from my previous thing but yeah, NK immune SK usually survive bombs (which in itself is an NK), look at how my character Matt Cotrium and the NK immune SK in the wheel game interacted. I think it's possible SK Coju killed the real bomb, survived the blast and stole that role claim to be safe. I still think going for him today is the safe bet, with me as the scapegoat incase he is the bomb.

I have to leave in 3 hours but I will be back before days end. (about 2 hours before).
 
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