Why dont ppl stay and fight?
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Well Stinger, not all pks max one skill level. I'm talking about equipment and charms. But even we we go back to skills, look what the possibilities are. Suppose I am playing a sorc that maxs fire ball and has maxed TS as a back up. One point in teleport and I have a decent sorc pker and one pretty good quester too.
This logic could go with any build. Now, you make a point if you are discussing lld, and perhaps you are as I don't remember your whole post.
OT hehe mac, the reason I post in lime is if I have had too many adult beverages, I usually forget to add that feature. Its a quailty check and a CYA for me in the event zappa says I posted something in an un-politically correct fashion, which I have done from time to time *cough* cavedog *cough*
This logic could go with any build. Now, you make a point if you are discussing lld, and perhaps you are as I don't remember your whole post.
OT hehe mac, the reason I post in lime is if I have had too many adult beverages, I usually forget to add that feature. Its a quailty check and a CYA for me in the event zappa says I posted something in an un-politically correct fashion, which I have done from time to time *cough* cavedog *cough*
Cleglaw_Himself
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Stinger, your first post is valid.
That's the reason I stopped trying to pk long ago.
I only build duelers exclusively now, as it is very sad lopping off ppl's ears that did not really have a chance.
However, I find these days that so many duelers are using chicken, even ones with 900 life. This irks me, especially when they call me noob for drinking a juv...
That's the reason I stopped trying to pk long ago.
I only build duelers exclusively now, as it is very sad lopping off ppl's ears that did not really have a chance.
However, I find these days that so many duelers are using chicken, even ones with 900 life. This irks me, especially when they call me noob for drinking a juv...
If your tired of Pkers. Build a PKK. Then you have the advantage. 95% of all PKers dont expect you to be built to kill them. Funny to see them run when they hit you and only put a minor dent in your 800+ life, and run even faster when you hit them and it takes half of their life bulb.
I dont really care for PvP, but I dislike bullies very much.
I dont really care for PvP, but I dislike bullies very much.
I built a PKK or two in Classic and I got an ear or two and I never once hostiled anyone. I dont even hostile when I duel, I leave it to thiem to pick the fight.
I dont know how many PKs i went against, not very many comparably but I should of killed most of them except chicken hack.
This game is full of lamers, those that dont really risk squat and expect you to accept them as part of the game, and treat them as a good guy when all they want to do is erase you and get a trophy.
Once upon a time ole Toli had a post about his PKing exp where someone or more spent hours if not days msgin him wiht foul text due to PK attept or success. Now taht guy went over board for sure, but Toli took major offense to it and i had the same msg as sohcan where it was"what do you expect" and the discussion really went nowhere.
Toli has to be one o fthe best posters around here and always posts with good logic and I expecte him to understand taht but he has gone to the darkside. On the darkside they shut out what they use to beleive and forget they were once on the other side and didnt like PKs.
The funniest thing I recall from a PKK deal was some guy was using this lvl 24 leaper in the sewers......well, he hostiled my lvl 29 future WW barb a couple of times and almsot got to Bird so I got out my thrower lvl 28 and found him, went out into my choosen spot and partied so he could find me. He hostiled and came. I set myself up to where there was only one way he could come to me and that was straight at me. Needless to say he went down fast I got his ear and I left.
A few days later i run into him and he is bitching and screaming that I killed his guy calling me every name in the book.........now, this isnt the picture of every PK but it is the one most people see. At a guess I see these guys 19 out of 20 times! Every once in a blue moon some PK will come in, hostile, hunt, come to town and see everyone is in town and leave. Kudos, I respect that and I can live with that. Calling me a noob, or weak because I wont fight you just shows you are a waste of my oxygen!
Any Pk that expects consideration and kindness is unbeleavably blind, wake up and smell the coffee!
I dont know how many PKs i went against, not very many comparably but I should of killed most of them except chicken hack.
This game is full of lamers, those that dont really risk squat and expect you to accept them as part of the game, and treat them as a good guy when all they want to do is erase you and get a trophy.
Once upon a time ole Toli had a post about his PKing exp where someone or more spent hours if not days msgin him wiht foul text due to PK attept or success. Now taht guy went over board for sure, but Toli took major offense to it and i had the same msg as sohcan where it was"what do you expect" and the discussion really went nowhere.
Toli has to be one o fthe best posters around here and always posts with good logic and I expecte him to understand taht but he has gone to the darkside. On the darkside they shut out what they use to beleive and forget they were once on the other side and didnt like PKs.
The funniest thing I recall from a PKK deal was some guy was using this lvl 24 leaper in the sewers......well, he hostiled my lvl 29 future WW barb a couple of times and almsot got to Bird so I got out my thrower lvl 28 and found him, went out into my choosen spot and partied so he could find me. He hostiled and came. I set myself up to where there was only one way he could come to me and that was straight at me. Needless to say he went down fast I got his ear and I left.
A few days later i run into him and he is bitching and screaming that I killed his guy calling me every name in the book.........now, this isnt the picture of every PK but it is the one most people see. At a guess I see these guys 19 out of 20 times! Every once in a blue moon some PK will come in, hostile, hunt, come to town and see everyone is in town and leave. Kudos, I respect that and I can live with that. Calling me a noob, or weak because I wont fight you just shows you are a waste of my oxygen!
Any Pk that expects consideration and kindness is unbeleavably blind, wake up and smell the coffee!
Bottom line - If youre gonna pk, do it with class. If you die, laugh and congratulate the victor. If you win, be cool about it and maybe give them a consolation prize. Every time I have done this, the name calling stopped and was replaced with "wow that sux you killed me but youre cool anyway" comments. Try it.
Blood_And_Iron
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when was the last time you fought?
As been said, "who leads the charge?"
Lol 340 life. You really don't know how to pk? 200 damage fireball takes at least a dozen hits to kill, by then how many would be dead?
What is the point of your second to last paragraph? Why does that seem to support the idea that staying after being hostiled is stupid? You say yourself you pick off stragglers when they're not paying attention.
You level in max and ruby gear? Who else does that? You have mana leech, life leech, resistance? You tank those LE beetles decked out in your 4 socket eth armor? You have a stash full of rejuv's that you use everytime a monster hits you?
You don't mind losing lvl 20's? Make more of them and keep fighting those decked out pk's. Keep doing it cause a dozen characters only cost you a full day's work. Heck make another one right now so you can see him die horribly. I'm sure you've got infinite 1.5 hour segments of your life lying everywhere. Most people don't.
HelzCaretaker said:
As been said, "who leads the charge?"
Lol 340 life. You really don't know how to pk? 200 damage fireball takes at least a dozen hits to kill, by then how many would be dead?
What is the point of your second to last paragraph? Why does that seem to support the idea that staying after being hostiled is stupid? You say yourself you pick off stragglers when they're not paying attention.
You level in max and ruby gear? Who else does that? You have mana leech, life leech, resistance? You tank those LE beetles decked out in your 4 socket eth armor? You have a stash full of rejuv's that you use everytime a monster hits you?
You don't mind losing lvl 20's? Make more of them and keep fighting those decked out pk's. Keep doing it cause a dozen characters only cost you a full day's work. Heck make another one right now so you can see him die horribly. I'm sure you've got infinite 1.5 hour segments of your life lying everywhere. Most people don't.
i agree with baalos it works, I just lost my 18 pally(outcast_jedi) who had about a stash full of ears and was pretty much undefeated so far in duels, but i believe i aimed too high for the stars this time and chose to hunt 2 lvl 47 sorcs and 52 trapsin heh, well all i did was laugh it off and congradulated them they rid the sewrs and trav of 1 pker. And for the actually nice people that ive killed countless times ive given them items to start back up again. All in all i dont think pkers are gonna leave until this game dies out.
Blood_And_Iron
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so what
Do you level in your ethereal armor and bonesnap, too?
Please make it through hell with your best lld gear. I'll pay to see it.
baalos said:
Do you level in your ethereal armor and bonesnap, too?
Please make it through hell with your best lld gear. I'll pay to see it.
Blood_And_Iron
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**** ***
Well there are always chumps out there, what can I say.
If you kill my character on whom I just spend my last 2 hours or 2 weeks building, I'd like to catch you in real life and do to you real slowly a lot more than cutting off your ear. Thank you for wasting my time and ruining my day.
"wow it sux but you're cool anyway," let me bring my other characters for you to kill so you can show me how much more cooler you can be.
Since there's nothing I can do about the pk game feature I have to chuck it up to my own mistake for being caught, which really doesn't happen anymore. But pks are still a nuisance and ruins the experience every now and then.
Let me kick you real hard in the balls. Does it feel good? Am I cool?
baalos said:
Well there are always chumps out there, what can I say.
If you kill my character on whom I just spend my last 2 hours or 2 weeks building, I'd like to catch you in real life and do to you real slowly a lot more than cutting off your ear. Thank you for wasting my time and ruining my day.
"wow it sux but you're cool anyway," let me bring my other characters for you to kill so you can show me how much more cooler you can be.
Since there's nothing I can do about the pk game feature I have to chuck it up to my own mistake for being caught, which really doesn't happen anymore. But pks are still a nuisance and ruins the experience every now and then.
Let me kick you real hard in the balls. Does it feel good? Am I cool?
And a word to the wise don't try to pkk when very tired 
. I was leveling a char up in a game and just hit 9 when a lvl 26 pally decided to hostile. So I switched to my only completed low lvl char an 18 blade sin and enchanted her (now even with enchant the blades only do about 1.8 k pvm so when you factor in fire resist and the pvp penalty it is pretty low damage for a lvl 18 pk/dueler so I feel that that is an ok build to use enchant on). I have dueled a lvl 26 kick sin pk and a lvl 26 chargadin pk with her before and actually caused them to flux just do to the speed I can hit with.
So I was expecting to chase away the pk again. Not expecting a kill since my damage is not really good enough to take out another pvp built char. Thing was I did not recheck the party menu so did not know that a lvl 76 werewolf had joined the game. The pally and the wolf hostiled me at about the same time while I was enchanting. Only noticed the pally hostile. I went out to attempt to chase of the pally and got blindsided by the werewolf. Managed to survive and juve vs 3 of his attacks but died to the fourth. Did basically no damage to him. After the death I checked who was in the game with my looter to get some idea of what truck ran over me.
So the moral is if pkking make sure you know what you are fighting
. Lamest thing about that guy was what happened after my death. Someone else brought in a 4x barb to fight the wolf and that is when it became quite clear that he was using chicken. I mean it is bad enough to take on an 18 with a 76 but to use chicken while doing so ^^. From now on I will make sure I am awake before I step out hehe.
. I was leveling a char up in a game and just hit 9 when a lvl 26 pally decided to hostile. So I switched to my only completed low lvl char an 18 blade sin and enchanted her (now even with enchant the blades only do about 1.8 k pvm so when you factor in fire resist and the pvp penalty it is pretty low damage for a lvl 18 pk/dueler so I feel that that is an ok build to use enchant on). I have dueled a lvl 26 kick sin pk and a lvl 26 chargadin pk with her before and actually caused them to flux just do to the speed I can hit with. So I was expecting to chase away the pk again. Not expecting a kill since my damage is not really good enough to take out another pvp built char. Thing was I did not recheck the party menu so did not know that a lvl 76 werewolf had joined the game. The pally and the wolf hostiled me at about the same time while I was enchanting. Only noticed the pally hostile. I went out to attempt to chase of the pally and got blindsided by the werewolf. Managed to survive and juve vs 3 of his attacks but died to the fourth. Did basically no damage to him. After the death I checked who was in the game with my looter to get some idea of what truck ran over me.
So the moral is if pkking make sure you know what you are fighting
. Lamest thing about that guy was what happened after my death. Someone else brought in a 4x barb to fight the wolf and that is when it became quite clear that he was using chicken. I mean it is bad enough to take on an 18 with a 76 but to use chicken while doing so ^^. From now on I will make sure I am awake before I step out hehe.Blood_And_Iron
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a few more points here
First of all, sorry about your mistake.
Second of all, that's really honorable of the pks. I mean hats off.
Third of all, that's the perfect example for my point that it's stupid to fight a pk. Yes a mistake was made here, but the usual pvm build against the possible pvp build might as well be a lvl 18 assassin vs. lvl 76 werewolf.
Some of you like pk. Some of you learned to live with it. I don't like it and I'd rather live without it. In my opinion, all pks are scum, no honor and no glory. Deserve to die many more times than once. If you want pvp go duel. It's so honorable and exciting to beat up on pvm builds. I have refrained from up front insults so far in this thread so I'll stop there.
For those of you who advocate staying and fighting with your pvm builds, hey it's your character and your time. I just have to say most of the time you get exactly what you can expect.
HR-Tecira said:And a word to the wise don't try to pkk when very tired
So I was expecting to chase away the pk again. Not expecting a kill since my damage is not really good enough to take out another pvp built char. Thing was I did not recheck the party menu so did not know that a lvl 76 werewolf had joined the game. The pally and the wolf hostiled me at about the same time while I was enchanting. Only noticed the pally hostile. I went out to attempt to chase of the pally and got blindsided by the werewolf. Managed to survive and juve vs 3 of his attacks but died to the fourth. Did basically no damage to him. After the death I checked who was in the game with my looter to get some idea of what truck ran over me.
So the moral is if pkking make sure you know what you are fighting
First of all, sorry about your mistake.
Second of all, that's really honorable of the pks. I mean hats off.
Third of all, that's the perfect example for my point that it's stupid to fight a pk. Yes a mistake was made here, but the usual pvm build against the possible pvp build might as well be a lvl 18 assassin vs. lvl 76 werewolf.
Some of you like pk. Some of you learned to live with it. I don't like it and I'd rather live without it. In my opinion, all pks are scum, no honor and no glory. Deserve to die many more times than once. If you want pvp go duel. It's so honorable and exciting to beat up on pvm builds. I have refrained from up front insults so far in this thread so I'll stop there.
For those of you who advocate staying and fighting with your pvm builds, hey it's your character and your time. I just have to say most of the time you get exactly what you can expect.
Blood_And_Iron said:
You would have been except for the part where you told lime guy Baalos that if he killed one of your pixelated thingies you'd feel like inflicting harm on a real person. That pretty much makes you lame.
Baalos is one of the nicest cats on Bnet. Just because you lose a character doesn't mean you need to punch a hole in your wall or threaten. Besides, your mom will make you clean up the mess.
Thank you for a hilarious post that reminds me why I love this game.
Edit: Happy belated birthday, Tec!! :drool: One more spot up the periodic table for you!
Blood_And_Iron
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hey what can i say
Them's my opinion on pks.
Who knows you're probably a real nice guy in life and in a pvm game. I'll level with you and swap items with you and have a real good time.
But don't point that hostile button my way and expect me to thank you for it. It's the worst thing anyone can do to another person in Diablo.
baalos said:
Them's my opinion on pks.
Who knows you're probably a real nice guy in life and in a pvm game. I'll level with you and swap items with you and have a real good time.
But don't point that hostile button my way and expect me to thank you for it. It's the worst thing anyone can do to another person in Diablo.
Blood_And_Iron
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hey I don't know baalos and it's not directed at him
But don't expect me to believe your characters mean absolutely nothing to you.
maccool said:
But don't expect me to believe your characters mean absolutely nothing to you.
Blood_And_Iron
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well hey
You've got me intrigued now.
You got a build that can do both pvm and pvp? If its a build more sophisticated than the monochrome FO build please enlighten me. I'm not being sarcastic.
I don't kill people so I really don't know the in's and out's. As far as I can understand, +safety = -damage, especially in lld. Yours is obviously a high lvl char, so more options there. Please share.
As far as this thread hey I'm sharing my opinion like you're with yours. I don't want to hurt you, I just don't agree with you. Dying to pks happen to be very personal to me, though I seem to be the minority on that subject.
baalos said:
You've got me intrigued now.
You got a build that can do both pvm and pvp? If its a build more sophisticated than the monochrome FO build please enlighten me. I'm not being sarcastic.
I don't kill people so I really don't know the in's and out's. As far as I can understand, +safety = -damage, especially in lld. Yours is obviously a high lvl char, so more options there. Please share.
As far as this thread hey I'm sharing my opinion like you're with yours. I don't want to hurt you, I just don't agree with you. Dying to pks happen to be very personal to me, though I seem to be the minority on that subject.
