Why dont ppl stay and fight?

These PK/Anti-PK threads always amuse me.

some of you have no idea who your talking to and its quite funny.

trust me on this, when HelzCareTaker explains something about PvP, take it as being fact. Im 100% positive that whatever he says has been tried, tested, and proven. Take whatever Tecira has to tell you as fact also. same goes with Rah or Carnage-DVS.

you guys are trying to talk PvP with some of the best PvPers to ever grace USEast.

you may not like PKs but they will never go away. when we reffer to an "honorable" pk it means that this person used everything legit, from tatics to gear. no wp timer bypass or whatnot. that hornorable pk gave everyone in the game a fair chance to make thier choice to stay and fight or tp or leave. and we wont ***** about your choice.

I love when I come across PKK's. Its more than I bargained for and I enjoy the challenge even greater than trying to run down ppl who chose to stay when I hostile.

as far as the chicken exit.. we KNOW the difference between a manual alt+F4, or a save+exit compared to a chicken flux. heres a little hint and you might take notice of it too.. when the hostile sound fires.. you will exit AFTER the sound no matter how quickly your fingers can get you out. when someone is using the chicken module.. they will leave before the siren finishes its sound. THAT is a chicken flux.


happy belated B-Day btw Beth :D
 
Spero said:
One thing I think some people forget (and others have touched on it here) is that pk, pkk is for rich people who play a lot. Also, it's for people who play overpowered builds just for the pk/pkk purpose.

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Na, you dont ahve to be rich.....you just have to collect the goodies that you trade, toss, sell and use them. i have traded away 4-5 LLd characters worth of charms and jewels and have a mule full of this stuff now.

If you make new characters and actually play the game most of the way thru nrom you will find 2-10 things that could be used for a PKK, and the rest you find and tos with your high lvls every day if you dont know what you are looking for.

Remember this, you have suprise on your side as they are expectin and easy kill.......they are going for max damage and many times have low life, no merc. If you have BIG life, max Block and a decent attack you will survies to either make them flux or kill them.

It isnt all about ears ppl........most look as an ear as the only reward but it simply isnt.

It is damn hard for a LLPK/LLD to hit a character wearing an Eth Ancinet Armor with Max Block!!! or a Jabber with Max Block and 50% dodge.

Also, as a PKK you can pick higher lvls than what you expect the PK to be. It is perfectly normal to have a lvl 24 Zon in Act 2 but the avearge PK there is 9-18.

In my book if the punk hostiles my PKK 2-3 times his lvl then he made a mistake, its not my fault this fool is that low!
 
DFA-FrstbyteOO said:
These PK/Anti-PK threads always amuse me.

some of you have no idea who your talking to and its quite funny.

trust me on this, when HelzCareTaker explains something about PvP, take it as being fact. Im 100% positive that whatever he says has been tried, tested, and proven. Take whatever Tecira has to tell you as fact also. same goes with Rah or Carnage-DVS.



happy belated B-Day btw Beth :D
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You just missed my point 100%

What I said was people playing underpowered characters, or people with les experience shouldn't try and stand up to PK's. If You only have 3 hours a week to play you obviously aren't going to be as good a player as somone who has devoted a lot of spare time over years to become good at dueling/PKing.

I personally have no problem with Pk's and should I be playing a character that might stand a chance against even a semi-decent player I may stay and fight. The only times I have landed hits on a PK recently, they have vanished from the game only to reappear later and flame me for trying not to die! Great! if you are going to flux at least have the decency to stay away!

If I am going to stay to fight however, the chance I will die is a lot higher than squishing some skellies - and some people might not have the time to rebuild a character - even if it only takes you 2.5 hours to do it!

The comment I took a modicom if offense to was that because you may have problems levelling a new Charac (whether being a newb or an occasional player ) means you are such a crap player you shouldn't bother (correct me if I'm wrong HelzCare Taker but that seemed th Gist of your comments)

Chill
 
HelzCaretaker said:
lol kurg thats plain funny. 1st off you have no clue how pvp works if you've never done it.
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wow, how you can flame someone for simply stating that his untwinked character with as close to base stats and 4 skill points allocated at lvl 20 can't stand up to a twinked lvl 9 or anything is beyond me. I've never pked, but I know a heck of a lot about it from reading here (know thy hunter), and it's just common sense that my orb sorc who hasn't used a single skill point except for prereqs has little chance of killing your well twinked pk (even if it was lvl 2...). And while it may be hard for you to hit me, you only have to do it once... why should i wait to see if you're gonna get lucky- especially since it's something that i didn't even want to get involved in in the first place!

HelzCaretaker said:
Also if you have that much trouble lvling its simply a case of being a horrible player, yes thats right you heard me horrible. I can solo with basically crap gear and get thru a2 with relative ease killing basically everything there is. Not very hard to do at all.
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you're right, its not hard, it doesn't even take that long. but if its ok with you, i'd rather not waste the two hours of boredom doing it. Again, I don't mind pks, just don't expect me to stick around playing your game when its just to make you happy.

HelzCaretaker said:
And if you have so many problems with pkers then simply make a dueler/pkker and fight them off. Theres a simply way to get them all I can't tell you how many wp kills I've had from pkers in arcanes. These are from mh scanners that know most of my accts and a newbish character of mine jumped them. The typical pker is pure crap posting maybe 500 life at lvl 20-25 with substandard dmg. A decent 16 dueler can beat most of them like a red headed step child so next time people keep running they should learn that almost no pker can 1 hit unless the pvm character really sucks (low lvl).
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Quite frankly, I don't wanna. I don't think it would be that fun. And if I'm playing a game in (too much of) my free time, I'm not tempted to do something I don't wanna do.

That's really all this argument comes down to. You hostile me cause you want to fight. Fine- I'm ok with that. But don't expect that to mean I'm automatically gonna go fight you, because I don't want to. I find it rather hypocritical of you to say "you don't know what you're talking about" when you're the one who clearly can't understand why I don't feel the need to bother. I can respect pvps even if i don't do it... when will you learn to respect my wishes to not pvp?


edit: that last part sounds much more personal than intended... it isn't directed at a "you" in specific, just a generic "you" :drink:
 
Chiller_babe said:
You just missed my point 100%

What I said was people playing underpowered characters, or people with les experience shouldn't try and stand up to PK's. If You only have 3 hours a week to play you obviously aren't going to be as good a player as somone who has devoted a lot of spare time over years to become good at dueling/PKing.

I personally have no problem with Pk's and should I be playing a character that might stand a chance against even a semi-decent player I may stay and fight. The only times I have landed hits on a PK recently, they have vanished from the game only to reappear later and flame me for trying not to die! Great! if you are going to flux at least have the decency to stay away!

If I am going to stay to fight however, the chance I will die is a lot higher than squishing some skellies - and some people might not have the time to rebuild a character - even if it only takes you 2.5 hours to do it!

The comment I took a modicom if offense to was that because you may have problems levelling a new Charac (whether being a newb or an occasional player ) means you are such a crap player you shouldn't bother (correct me if I'm wrong HelzCare Taker but that seemed th Gist of your comments)

Chill
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Chill,

I wasnt directing anything at you or anyone else really in particular. I didnt miss your point cuz I wasnt reffering to anyones points..

but what I did mention in my little post is that honorable pks do not whine and moan if every one in the game decided to leave. that is the opportunity we would like you to have. yes thats right.. we honorable pks will give you ample time to tp to town, leave, whatever you decide. we wont force anyone to stay and fight if they dont want to. wait it out for a min and wed most likely leave for the ng if no one wants to try thier skill, luck, brains or whatever else you can think of.
 
sigh

*YAWN... this thread started well, the last few pages have deteriorated somewhat - no reflection on the posters, just that this has turned into yet another of the pro-pk/anti-pk spam arguments. Guys, neither of you will change their viewpoint, so why bother? (rhetorical question: please don't bother trying to answer!)

Here's the fact on the pk scene as it is in East at the moment (well... as of about 2 weeks ago): no-one is pking sewers/arcane with -20s... they're using 20+s (true... there might be the odd one of the guys here going at it with pkers in their 'teens'). It's popular to use the 24 Snapperpally... and it's also oh-so-lame.
Another thing about the dueling/pking scene: filled with adolescent children who really should get a reality check on the game, and as Stinger said: treat people as you would be treated (as in at least be courteous whilst you're killing someone ;) ).

Please note: this diatribe is not aimed at the PK/dueling crowd from within these boards. 'Tis just an observation from someone who plays/played quite a bit... and rin the last few months almost exclusively within the LLD/pkking scene within East.


Cheers all

m
 
First off: To all of you so called PKer who join public game to satisfy yourself in collecting some ears---I just don't have respect for all guys. I don't understand the concept of pking in public games. If they wanted to pk then they would be in a pk room.

Here I am spent hours and hours lvling and some inconsiderate idiot want pk me. O hell no.

By all means.. I am not saying that all you PKers are lame. Let me justify "Lame PKer"==Lvl89 druid pking in normal sewer runs games. How pathetic. I could name more but these PKers are the worst.

And not to forget those Pkers who have earned my respect. And believe I have seen many. Are those 1) Ask for my permission to duel. 2) Who PK in PK room.

Now those are IMO the PKers that have earn the term PKers.

I am not pissed at any of you pkers. I am just expressing my and only my opinion toward some pker.

I or We can't blame none of you pkers but to blizzard. Why can't blizzard remedy this by having both or mutually hostile each other. Thus, he can't kill me if I don't hostile him.

Good luck to you legit PKer. And if you manage to pk me I will congratulate you as you deserved it. And as always.....
 
Ok Pinoy... I'm assuming you're from the Phillippines & not a Native Speaker of English. That's cool. But a few points in your post were a lil' confusing.

Pinoy said:
... If they wanted to pk then they would be in a pk room...
... Are those 1) Ask for my permission to duel. 2) Who PK in PK room...
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Ummm... I think you're confusing the term 'pk' somewhat. Perhaps you're unaware that pkers & duelers are most often reasonably dissimilar builds.

Now those are IMO the PKers that have earn the term PKers.
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PKer means 'Player Killer'... so, ipso facto - anyone who kills a player is a pker.

Just save and exit.


Cheers

m
 
DFA-FrstbyteOO said:
Chill,

I wasnt directing anything at you or anyone else really in particular. I didnt miss your point cuz I wasnt reffering to anyones points..

but what I did mention in my little post is that honorable pks do not whine and moan if every one in the game decided to leave. that is the opportunity we would like you to have. yes thats right.. we honorable pks will give you ample time to tp to town, leave, whatever you decide. we wont force anyone to stay and fight if they dont want to. wait it out for a min and wed most likely leave for the ng if no one wants to try thier skill, luck, brains or whatever else you can think of.
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Yay - sorry I went a bit off the rails - but this pregnant thing has well stuffed up my hormones. I seem to take offense at very little:)

Anyways - PK is fun, PvM is fun - we all play the game to have fun. It's just a shame there are some who play to deliberately ruin others fun. I just wish there were more "honourable" PK's out there - means I might actually get an ear when I stay around when hostiled rather than xxxPK_MORONxxx has left the game when I land the 1st hit:D

Might even make building PKK's worth while!

Chill
 
STINGER said:
Na, you dont ahve to be rich.....you just have to collect the goodies that you trade, toss, sell and use them. i have traded away 4-5 LLd characters worth of charms and jewels and have a mule full of this stuff now.

If you make new characters and actually play the game most of the way thru nrom you will find 2-10 things that could be used for a PKK, and the rest you find and tos with your high lvls every day if you dont know what you are looking for.
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Ok, granted, rich is a relative term. I've played 3 characters enough to get them into hell since the patch. I haven't played enough to find a single 3 socket mask or breast plate, or a 4 socket ancient armor.

I do have some jewels and bits and pieces I could use, but I would have to work hard trading and messing around to twink and make a low level pkk or pk.

You may think you aren't rich, but compared to me I'm pretty sure you are. I've read your posts. :wave:
 
*walks right past this post without even thinking of replying*



*turns back around*


Bah. The simple reason people don't fight is because that's not a logical idea. Fighting a well built pk will get you dead. Even in groups. They have ALOT of fire power.

That level 50 sorc is nice, but my 18 charger could elimate her within seconds. Why take the risk.


personally I am done with X pack, I don't like what it is anymore. I'm done with Pk'ing...I don't like what it is anymore. It's changed for me since the introduction of the fact that I can only get an ear thru utter ********tery and WP hopping.
 
Lets do a comparison :

A WW barb with a 300 dmg martel at lvl 80 does about 1500 whirl damage

A lvl 34 Paladin can get a 500 dmg martel, does about 6000


A 34 Paladin can have 25% dr, and life of about 1000

A barb can have 10% dr (lol) and life at about 3k+




Outside of a huge defensive advantage, that barb would get stomped. Even worse if the pala was using an honor naga and a sweet sheild..


The fact is that a lvl 18 is easily then equal of a lvl 50 classic in some cases. Thus why people no longer stay
 
When I'm in a public game, which is next to never, and someone hostiles, I leave the game as soon as I can. This is because I make the assumption that the person hostiling knows what he's doing and will kill me. I might be wrong, but frankly, I don't care to stay and find out.
 
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