Returning to the Roots - Mini mafia game

[Goryani]

@goryani and gwaihir

If Phil is town the most obvious answer is what?

If Phil is anti-town the most obvious answer is what and why?

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I'm not sure there is an obvious answer.

If Phil is anti-town the case against him was solid enough there could be a busser. There should be a busser. Anyone not on Phil's bandwagon if he flips scum will have some mega scummy points.

If Phil is town, then I'd say there is a very strong chance at least one Phil voter is anti-town. The case against Phil is as strong as the case against Moar and that went through without much discussion.

I could be more specific but then I already know you claimed and cleared kestegs. My answer is affected by that revelation.

 

[Goryani]

Goryani's scumhunting is top-notch, and I'm completely convinced he's town as well.?

I always get nervous when someone tries to butter my muffin. /clenched

 

[Gwaihir]

Can you explain this better?

Before BA came forward to clear kegs, voting record went something like this:

1) Phil has 3 votes (one more to lynch and lock): Ankeli, kegs, SI
2) SI unvotes Phil
3) BA votes Phil

I found it odd that BA voted for Phil so soon after SI unvoted, and also made a couple accusations about starting a second lynch train. I was thinking at that point either kegs or Phil were most likely mafia. If kegs was mafia, BA's move could have been to make sure that Phil was lynched so no mafia would be today.

 

[Goryani]

None of the responses have struck me as Town. the main reason is the fact that not one of the three players you directed the questions to actually answered your questions. All three responded yet all three have evaded with ease. Furthermore:

I will agree that none of those players answered my questions. Neither did BA nor Gwaihir. I think BA essentially ignored them. Gwaihir's response was as enigmatic as Ankeli/phil/kestegs. You seem to be the only player who answered the questions I asked. I'm not yet sure what to make of that.

No they are not and were not at the time. What made my suspicions of Ankeli wane now is the fact that he is actually considering kestegs as Mafia.

Can you point to the post(s) that made you think Ankeli was considering kestegs as mafia?

 

[Solar Ice]

Can you point to the post(s) that made you think Ankeli was considering kestegs as mafia?

If I had to bet my coins on the 2nd mafioso at this time I'd say it's Kegs. They voted for eachother with Phil during d1 when they saw that the townies lynched one of their own without their help, creating more cover for themselves. That's a long shot though, but I'm not getting it from BA:

The above post.

 

[Goryani]

Why you should trust me: I have zero reason to support kestegs as the cop right now. If he was my mafia buddy I would have gladly followed gorys claim and gone along with the plan and tried to play under the radar. 1 vs 5 is not enough of a disadvantage for me to risk my neck right now and come out with this.

There is a chance that you are mafia and killed Zokar the cop. A believed fake claim is essentially an instant win in a game this small. That consideration must be weighed.

However, that scenario is also the scummiest thing I can say about you this game which means you aren't very scummy. I don't think you are faking the claim.

 

[Kestegs]

"At the end of the day" isn't correct. I started this conversation on DAY 1. I wait for responses and, upon hearing none, bring it up again on Day 2. When I bring it up again, it's 90min after my first post of the day.

In a 9 player game, waiting for a guilty verdict usually means the cop claims too late. Clearing an innocent is powerful stuff. If I'm cop in this game I claim by the end of D2.

The purpose of a mass claim isn't to catch mafia. It's to find townies. Finding townies makes it easier to catch mafia.

That all just sounds like you're pushing an agenda and that you are feeding the town breadcrumbs to get them to do what you want. If you really thought that an early mass claim was best for the town then why didn't you say that earlier?

 

[Gwaihir]

There is a chance that you are mafia and killed Zokar the cop. A believed fake claim is essentially an instant win in a game this small. That consideration must be weighed.

Zokar has been stumped! He was a Vanilla Townie.

quoted from opening post of Day 2.

 

[Solar Ice]

There is a chance that you are mafia and killed Zokar the cop. A believed fake claim is essentially an instant win in a game this small. That consideration must be weighed.

However, that scenario is also the scummiest thing I can say about you this game which means you aren't very scummy. I don't think you are faking the claim.

How do you explain the fact that Zokar was revealed to be Vanilla Townie at the start of Day by Caluin Graye?

 

[Goryani]

If I had to bet my coins on the 2nd mafioso at this time I'd say it's Kegs. They voted for eachother with Phil during d1 when they saw that the townies lynched one of their own without their help, creating more cover for themselves. That's a long shot though, but I'm not getting it from BA:

The above post.

That convinces me. Phillinnicus and SI are the mafia team. I'll be voting Phillinnicus before the end of the day. I want to check to make sure day doesn't end first.

In order for your reply in post 196 to be legit, you had to point to something that occurred prior to 153. You instead pointed to post 162.

Post 153:

I know you are Mafia, and you know it. And yet you still want to do everything in your power to prevent the lynch of your scumbuddy?

Wanna play then?

Unvote: Phllinnicus

SI is referring to BA and Phillinnicus as a scum team.

 

[Goryani]

goryani wanting to mass claim is a big no no to me btw.

What could you possibly hope to accomplish by this? You would have known I was cop and never built a train on kestegs, and you'd know who the doc was as well and the mafia could all claim vanilla townie.

Why would you think this was a good idea right now?

I hoped to accomplish what I think has been accomplished. Two townies are confirmed. Lots of pieces fall into place. I think the scum team has been found in Phillinnicus and SI.

 

[Bad Ash]

And yet phil still isn't locked. Between the three of you one should be a townie.

Also if there IS a doc and you feel anonomyus I am not lyng and would love a save because I am going to investigate solar ice tonight and reveal his role.

Also I am as sane as it gets.



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[Solar Ice]

No they are not and were not at the time. What made my suspicions of Ankeli wane now is the fact that he is actually considering kestegs as Mafia.

Bolded parts.

I know full well what I posted. If you did not actually pretend to read my above post properly, you would have noticed that I am referring to the present tense "now"' and "is". yes you did not ask me at present but I replied anyway.

You are trying to throw crap against the wall and hoping that it sticks somewhere. Just like you tried to plant seeds of doubt onto BA being the Cop.

 

[Goryani]

quoted from opening post of Day 2.

How do you explain the fact that Zokar was revealed to be Vanilla Townie at the start of Day by Caluin Graye?

I completely missed the flip associated with zokar. I didn't even know he was mod confirmed townie (though in such a setup, it would take one hell of a vendetta for zokar to flip scum). I guess I assumed it was a normal no info given NK.

 

[Solar Ice]

Vote: Phillinicus

 

[Gwaihir]

Not sure I followed what Gory said, will go back and read. But to make sure this happens:

Vote: Phllinnicus

 

[Caluin Graye]

My last post was in error, and off by one hour.

Day is ending in about 15 minutes.

Edit:
Phillinnicus has been locked as of post #235.

 

[Bad Ash]

TG. A no Lynch isn't end of world in small set up but even if phil is town j had a bad feeling about not seeing any results.

He was insanely quiet today too

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[Goryani]

Just like you tried to plant seeds of doubt onto BA being the Cop.

Au contraire. In that very same post I specifically said I thought BA was NOT faking being the cop. I also specifically mentioned that a kill-the-cop-and-fake-claim scenario is the scummiest thing I can say about BA.

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Is there 10min left in the day or 70 min left?

preview edit: I see 10min is the answer and I see a lock but not day end. I can still post this right?

 

[Goryani]

Vote: Phillinnicus

Just to be safe.