OT: The SPF Mafia Game Round Three

If it's possible, can someone with some time on their hands provide a vote tally? I'm too swamped at work to do it myself. I can't even tell, from all the chaos, if there's a trend developing.

Jaago: 2 (GoHabsGo, Sint Nikolaas)
Goltar25: 1 (Thyiad)
CDRToast: 1 (xduckster)
Sir Lister of Smeg: 1 (Rashiminos)
Moar: 2 (LORD NIKON, Cygnus)
Thyiad: 1 (goltar25)
Rashiminos: 1 (muzzz)
GoHabsGo: 2 (Jaago, water_moon)
LORD NIKON: 1 (RevenantsKnight)

Dang it, things are messier than I thought. I may have to move my vote somewhere more strategic...



 
@Rash: I never, ever said I needed to send a PM. Lister just assumed I meant sending, instead of reading, and you jumped on that bandwagon. If you want to believe I had to send something, fine. But please don't post that I said so.

I don't have time to cross-check votes or inconsistencies at the moment. I want to vote, but I don't really have a sensible target. The only thing I can think of is my old suspect.

I never said you did need to send a PM, what I said was that I would wonder why you aren't dead yet if you had to send a PM in reaction to Lister's post about it. That you weren't on your account to have noticed your role PM was evident much earlier.

Looming deadlines suggest I change my vote. If the day should be extended, my vote goes right back to Lister.

Somebody tells me it's Moar.


Unvote: Sir Lister of Smeg
Vote: Moar


 
Looks like noone is getting lynched today :-/

That means at least 2 probably 3 mafia remain for another day, not good

Based on arguements made by all parties, i'd say some people are definately more suspicious than others, and even if we lynch the wrong one, it improves our odds for tomorrow :-/ slightly...

Still think moar's sketchy...

VOTE: MOAR
 
GoHabsGo seems a bit odd, especially since he called for no lynching early in the first day, but I'm not sure if he just offered that idea up out of frustration or not.

Considering this was my first time playing, I originally tho it was more strategic for the town to do a no-lynch on day 1, especially with the mafia inactivity. But as I learned the mecanics of this game during the last week, I quickly realised there is no strategy involved. It's chaos and random accusations thrown left and right.


 
But as I learned the mecanics of this game during the last week, I quickly realised there is no strategy involved. It's chaos and random accusations thrown left and right.

QFT. This is nothing like the game in real life. There is no body language involved which makes the primary way of finding the mafia moot. The game becomes infinitely harder for the town.

I guess I'll follow the bandwagon just so that we have a chance to lynch a mafia member.

Unvote: CDRToast

Vote: Moar




 
I'm quite tired of being accused when there is nothing I could be accused for. I don't get where I should have slipped. To me it looks like there are a few people that jumped on me right from the start without much reasoning.

I haven't had much time to follow the thread, but what I read confuses me. There are some good thoughts out there and I have changed my opinion of some people a bit. I don't think Goltar is mafia now.

What stands out to me is that Lord Nikon and Jaago jumped on me without good reasons and try to get a bandwagon started. Looks like they will succed this time as well. Make of it what you will. :smiley:

Vote: Lord Nikon
 
Moar, it's a metagaming thing. The mafia was most likely inactive on night 1 (or 0, depending on where you start counting things). And you came in to replace an inactive player. That screams mafia, even though none of your own doing. I believe you have a night role, though not necessarily mafia. You have thus far done nothing to really indicate anything to me one way or another, and as I think we've already screwed up one lynching, I'd like to not mess up another, so I'm not switching my vote to you at this time. But tomorrow is another day.

As for the metagaming, as much as I REALLY don't like it most of the time, it's basically the only real tool we can use against the mafia here until the cop reveals their information (and if the cop was Drixx or jrlafrance...or Jaedhann for that matter, but I don't think so). As several have pointed out, there's missing components that show in the real life version.

As for GoHabsGo, I'm willing to believe that he's still just trying to figure out logistics of the game. I'm still a little suspicious of him, but nowhere near enough to change my vote today.
 
I'm quite tired of being accused when there is nothing I could be accused for. I don't get where I should have slipped. To me it looks like there are a few people that jumped on me right from the start without much reasoning.

I haven't had much time to follow the thread, but what I read confuses me. There are some good thoughts out there and I have changed my opinion of some people a bit. I don't think Goltar is mafia now.

What stands out to me is that Lord Nikon and Jaago jumped on me without good reasons and try to get a bandwagon started. Looks like they will succed this time as well. Make of it what you will. :smiley:

Vote: Lord Nikon

Returning a vote on a person who just voted you is either suspicious or lame.


 
Returning a vote on a person who just voted you is either suspicious or lame.

Which is why Jaago (along with all his other suspicious actions) is quite a mafia candidate here. Hopefully will get on his case tomorrow (next day). But since we do need a lynching and Moar make sense, I guess her quest ends here.

Unvote Jaago
Vote Moar



 
I'm quite tired of being accused when there is nothing I could be accused for. I don't get where I should have slipped. To me it looks like there are a few people that jumped on me right from the start without much reasoning.

Moar, it's nothing personal, I assure you. It's not you who slipped, but Neksja. I realise it's not something you can do much about, and again, none of us are absolutely sure you are mafia, just that you have a night-time role.

BTW, regarding end of day, I've come to expect a post from skoolbus giving us sufficient advance warning. Skoolbus, if the day can end abruptly, can you let us know exactly when it will end when day starts?



 
Returning a vote on a person who just voted you is either suspicious or lame.

Well, nice tactic. First voting for someone, and then by this making sure that they don't return the favour. I agree though that voting on someone purely because that other person voted for you is lame, but there are times when the reason for that voting lies in reasoning such as for example that that person started to try and get you lynched without any solid reasoning, and just out of the blue gave some "mumble jumble" as an argument.

I do suspect Moar, but since it looks already likely she's going to be lynched, and she's not on my list of most suspicious people anymore, I'm going to vote on the one I suspect of being the mastermind in the mafia, Sint Nikolaas. His posts all seem very well reasonable, and he did not make many suspicious moves, but yet, his posts are in such a way different from the posts in the previous two games (admittedly few due to his early deaths) that I think he's mafia. Further more, it looks to me as if Sint is the evil genius, and Rashiminos the mouthpiece of the mafia, who the third one is I don't know, it could have been Jaedhan, but Jaago, RevenantsKnight, and Thyiad are all likely contenders. In light of Rashiminos late vote on Moar I don't think Moar is mafia. Note that the ones I named are the ones I found most likely to be mafia. Unfortunately that means they're also likely contenders for the title of village idiot. Also, I want to emphasize that all of you are suspicious, even if I did not name you here.

vote: Sint Nikolaas



 
Considering this was my first time playing, I originally tho it was more strategic for the town to do a no-lynch on day 1, especially with the mafia inactivity. But as I learned the mecanics of this game during the last week, I quickly realised there is no strategy involved. It's chaos and random accusations thrown left and right.

QFT. Here's to hoping we can institue reveals in future rounds so there is more to this game than random accusations.

As for voting, I'm really not sure. I don't get any mafia vibe from Moar and as many people noted she may have a night role. But all of the people I'd like to vote for are at inconsequential levels right now. I'll hold off on voting for a bit.



 
Sint Nikolaas. His posts all seem very well reasonable, and he did not make many suspicious moves, but yet, his posts are in such a way different from the posts in the previous two games (admittedly few due to his early deaths) that I think he's mafia. Further more, it looks to me as if Sint is the evil genius, and Rashiminos the mouthpiece of the mafia, ...

vote: Sint Nikolaas


Sint made posts in the previous games? Really Lister this is quite a stretch. It's very apparent that the loud people will either get murdered or lynched fairly quickly. Basically if they don't get murdered by mid-game start to worry, but early on does it really matter? All the mafia have to do is jump on whatever bandwagon is forming, there's no need to start a lynchfest. Whether they be talkative or quiet, the mafia can pretty much do anything early game.



 
Sint made posts in the previous games? Really Lister this is quite a stretch. It's very apparent that the loud people will either get murdered or lynched fairly quickly. Basically if they don't get murdered by mid-game start to worry, but early on does it really matter? All the mafia have to do is jump on whatever bandwagon is forming, there's no need to start a lynchfest. Whether they be talkative or quiet, the mafia can pretty much do anything early game.

I don't expect him nor any of the others to be lynched today anyway. But I felt I could better say things before I get murdered or lynched than afterwards.



 
Well, nice tactic. First voting for someone, and then by this making sure that they don't return the favour. I agree though that voting on someone purely because that other person voted for you is lame, but there are times when the reason for that voting lies in reasoning such as for example that that person started to try and get you lynched without any solid reasoning, and just out of the blue gave some "mumble jumble" as an argument.

I do suspect Moar, but since it looks already likely she's going to be lynched, and she's not on my list of most suspicious people anymore, I'm going to vote on the one I suspect of being the mastermind in the mafia, Sint Nikolaas. His posts all seem very well reasonable, and he did not make many suspicious moves, but yet, his posts are in such a way different from the posts in the previous two games (admittedly few due to his early deaths) that I think he's mafia. Further more, it looks to me as if Sint is the evil genius, and Rashiminos the mouthpiece of the mafia, who the third one is I don't know, it could have been Jaedhan, but Jaago, RevenantsKnight, and Thyiad are all likely contenders. In light of Rashiminos late vote on Moar I don't think Moar is mafia. Note that the ones I named are the ones I found most likely to be mafia. Unfortunately that means they're also likely contenders for the title of village idiot. Also, I want to emphasize that all of you are suspicious, even if I did not name you here.

vote: Sint Nikolaas

Lister has added a fifth and a sixth person to his Village Idiot/Mafia shell game when surely he should be able to reduce them to just mafia.

His VI's/Mafioso suspects: RevenantsKnight, Rashiminos, Jaedhann, Thyiad, Jaago, Sint Nikolaas

Sint made posts in the previous games? Really Lister this is quite a stretch. It's very apparent that the loud people will either get murdered or lynched fairly quickly. Basically if they don't get murdered by mid-game start to worry, but early on does it really matter? All the mafia have to do is jump on whatever bandwagon is forming, there's no need to start a lynchfest. Whether they be talkative or quiet, the mafia can pretty much do anything early game.

If you haven't noticed, he's been making these stretches the entire game. He is especially stretching the village idiot remarks when he has 5 alive players and the guy we lynched yesterday on his VI suspect list.


 
Moar, it's nothing personal, I assure you. It's not you who slipped, but Neksja. I realise it's not something you can do much about, and again, none of us are absolutely sure you are mafia, just that you have a night-time role.

Yes, and I am not mafia. Consider the matter again please.



 
I realize that what I said will raise some supicion, in fact it has already done. And as such has probably reduced my life expectancy quite a bit. Either the mafia will think I'm village idiot after all and kill me tonight or Rashiminos will finally succeed in having me lynched, something he's been wanting to do for a while. I'm not surprised that Brak and Rashiminos jumped on this, the former because it's something I'd expect from his playstyle in the previous game, and the latter because he's trying to point his finger at me at every opportunity.

Nevertheless, I felt it was best to say those things, to put nearly all my cards on the table. I suggest some people look thoroughly into both my posts and posts by those I named and get to their conclusions without influencing one another first. For the sake of the argument, I also suggest that there be at least five townies among them, the only way to do so is by nine people doing their homework. (worst case scenario: three mafiosi, one village idiot, and five townies)
I suggest the following people, in alphabetical order (note that if I would be mafia, there could be a maximum of two mafiosi among these nine people): CDRToast, Cygnus, GoHabsGo, Goltar25, Lord_Nikon, Muzzz, Skunkbelly, Water_Moon, Xduckster, and Sitro as reserve if it doesn't get done by the end of today and the mafia kills one of them.
Why these? At the moment they're not on my list of most suspicious people so hopefully all are townies, besides, most of them have been relatively quiet.
 
@Skoolbus: am I correct in assuming that the person you made witness does not have any other special role?
Also, you mentioned that it could be one of the dead people, did you include them to assign the witness or not? I hope you did not sinc eit would change the course of the game in a bad way, but if you did, and it was Jaedhan than nothing changes, if it was Drixx or Jrlafrance however, could you release the name of the murderer as soon as possible?
 
lister said:
His posts all seem very well reasonable, and he did not make many suspicious moves, but yet, his posts are in such a way different from the posts in the previous two games (admittedly few due to his early deaths) that I think he's mafia. Further more, it looks to me as if Sint is the evil genius, and Rashiminos the mouthpiece of the mafia, who the third one is I don't know, it could have been Jaedhan, but Jaago, RevenantsKnight, and Thyiad are all likely contenders.
Now isn't that a kick in the head. My posts are different? Please tell me how. Seriously I am trying to make some logic of this game and think things trough before I post and because I ''didn't make any suspicious moves'' I'm suspicious? Great reasoning there... Oh and Rash and me have been on the same team the whole game ofcourse, mainly because we haven't had contact. Oh no wait that must be another reason that we're in it together, because we're not doing anything together. Funny how the 3rd person can be one of 4(!), while I'm pretty much already picked.

Oh the same post:
...for example that that person started to try and get you lynched without any solid reasoning...
After that, how can you give such a reason for me being mafia. Seriously get your act together...

lister said:
Nevertheless, I felt it was best to say those things, to put nearly all my cards on the table.
Or do you already have your act together.
 
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