OT: SPF mafia round 7 - Return to Salem

Re: OT: SPF mafia round 7 - Return to Salem

Since goltar still didn't vote, I'm feeling a little more confident in my vote for him.

Second, why do I wait to vote until the end of the day? The rules state that in order to unvote, you have to specifically unvote for the person you voted for. I'm not likely to remember that (ask water_moon afterwards about my patchy memory for details) and I'm not particularly fond of hunting back through for my posts just to see who I voted for. So I decided that with this rule in place, I'd just save my vote for near the end of the day (or in lukin's case I was pretty certain I wouldn't want to change my vote) so there'd be no worries about unvoting. Plus, at the beginning, before we knew they'd selected greed, it was a way to protect myself from vengeance.

The day still has several hours left. I'll make my vote when I get up in the morning.

Even though he has addressed some of the questions brought up about himself, he has said nothing at all about the likelyness of his being turned by Greed.

I said it before, I'll quote it here. I'd really rather not have to keep repeating myself.

Merlin, I seriously doubt the mafia would have recruited someone who had outed one of their members. There'd be a bit too much animosity there for things to work well. But since I know someone will ask me to do this at some point, I'll go ahead and say it now, on a separate line very obviously for everyone.

I am still a member of the family.

If you want to waste a lynch on me, go ahead. Not today please, since it appears we've got a good shot at an enemy in lukin today. We do however need to start planning out the next few days. We know we'll at least have one enemy left, since Ray blocked lukin and there was still a kill.

Why am I so determined to defend myself? I'd like to live to see the end of this game, and I'd rather not have a lynch wasted on me. Though reading from the sidelines would give me a little more time to prep for the next round, I'm not too worried about that at the moment. I've at least got plenty of time during the night phase for that.



 
Re: OT: SPF mafia round 7 - Return to Salem

Alrighty then...

Unvote: goltar
Vote: Naz

Code:
Goltar   3      - Merlin, Naz, PureSummon
Naz      3      - maatiarna, Bob, friedb
Thyiad   1      - Serdash
PureSum  1      - Thyiad

non-voters:
Goltar
Jason

I've tied it up now, let's see where Jason goes with this. Naz is another likely Greed suspect, and since Jason has unvoted for goltar and I doubt goltar will pull a Thy :wink3:, it's likely that Naz will die today.
 
Re: OT: SPF mafia round 7 - Return to Salem

You silly sod firebananazzzz. That is just the thing to say to goad me into re-voting goltar! :evil:

I'll leave my vote off until I get home from work tonight. Day ends about 4 am my time, so I'll have plenty of time to re-read and do what I haven't done this round yet - analyse voting patterns to see if I can come up with something more definite.
 
Re: OT: SPF mafia round 7 - Return to Salem

You silly sod firebananazzzz. That is just the thing to say to goad me into re-voting goltar! :evil:

I'll leave my vote off until I get home from work tonight. Day ends about 4 am my time, so I'll have plenty of time to re-read and do what I haven't done this round yet - analyse voting patterns to see if I can come up with something more definite.


That will be right just like him to do that.


 
Re: OT: SPF mafia round 7 - Return to Salem

@Bob- I would not mind trying it, except that I cannot draw a bead on thyiad's voting patterns or other posts. I can't stick an analysis with someone that quirky :P Frankly, I keep wondering whether Muzzz did not by accident insert a village idiot role in here by accident :grin:

@goltar - You probably guessed it, but while your defense seems honest enough, it's not particularly strong. Coming up with 'bizarre' schemes at the stat is a whole barrel of fun, but at this point of the game, particularly in this particualr situation, with a fairly large group of people trying to sniff out a well hidden bad guy, it's only detrimental. You know it, I know it.

Voting - You slip your vote in at the end of the day because you are afraid you might forget who you voted for? Well, there's a couple of easy cures for that :
1) Research the thread for posts made by yourself during the last two days.
2) Look at Muzzz's helpful vote tally halfway during the day.
3) Use a notepad on the desktop with your vote in it, update it when you change it.

Also, you are afraid of a vendetta? Right now, the abilities chosen by the bad guys have been positively identified. Vendetta is not part of it. Even if it was, I'd be thrilled if someone used vendetta on me as a regular townie (which you claim to be), since not only does it mean you played the game so well the opponent thought it merited the use of their special ability to get rid of you, but your death in that manner would greatly help accelerate the townies to finding the villains (3 NK instead of 2? Vendetta has been used. Who opened voting on whom?)

Now, back to that crucial day 3 (why day 3? Because it saw the lynch of the third mafia member, which means our greed victim HAD already been turned at that point).
Post 412 by Muzzz gives the vote tally for that day, and also states there are but 4 hours left. As you can see, at that moment, MagicBoy is in the lead with 4 votes, and Thyiad is following with 3.
Post 414 is by Goltar, and surprise surprise, he casts a vote for thyiad, deadlocking the vote. It's his first vote for the day.
Post 415 is by me, and I only mention it because post 416 is by PureSummon, who based his vote on my post and votes for magicboy, PROVIDING THE FINAL VOTE
Post 417 is Thyiad, she keeps her vote on Sint while pointing out the smart thing for her would be to vote for magicboy, but she has principles :P

Post 422 by Muzzz ends the day. That means there were only 2 new voters after Muzzz made his tally. Goltar, who deadlocks it on thyiad, and puresummon, who locks in magicboy for the lynch.

Remember people, that day eliminated the third of the mafia scum, leaving the last one alone. If earlier posts have you pegged as a townie (Sint had a suspect list the day before, and maatiarna that same day, both listed Goltar as trusted), wouldn't you have tried to save your brother in arms from being lynched? I would, and evidently, Goltar thought among the same lines.

Whereas, if it was Puresummon who was the last mafia, why would he cast the final vote and be the cause of lynching his buddy when thyiad was an easy alternative?

No, when rereading, this was one of the major reasons why I pegged Goltar as my most likely greed suspect. Nothing he said so far has changed this.
 
Re: OT: SPF mafia round 7 - Return to Salem

Thank you for your thoughts on Puresummon. I was getting two different readings from him a mafia one and a townie one.

Merlin you have made it a lot clearer and the evidence that you have given makes Goltar look more and more suspicious.
Especially since he voted for Thyiad on day 3 to tie the votes between Thyiad and Magicboy a confirmed rival mafia member. Very suspicious. But with muzzz's rules Magicboy still would have been lynched if Puresummon had not voted Magic, if there was still a tie as he was the first to get to that number of votes.

Therefore with this evidence given by Merlin
unvote Naz
Vote Goltar
 
Re: OT: SPF mafia round 7 - Return to Salem

Damn you're observant. Thank you. Could puresummon have been turned after that?

unvote puresummon
 
Re: OT: SPF mafia round 7 - Return to Salem

vote goltar25

So you killed wm eh. you're in trouble
 
Re: OT: SPF mafia round 7 - Return to Salem

If goltar does turn out to be mafia like Merlin seems to think.

I think he will be doing dishes for a month or so for NKing water_moon.
 
Re: OT: SPF mafia round 7 - Return to Salem

Unvote: Nazdakka
Vote: goltar25
 
Re: OT: SPF mafia round 7 - Return to Salem

The voting tally is this

Goltar 6 - Merlin, Naz, PureSummon, maatiarna, Bob
Naz 1 - , friedbananazzzz
Thyiad 1 - Serdash

non-voters:
Goltar
Jason
 
Re: OT: SPF mafia round 7 - Return to Salem

Don#t worry maatti I'm getting the feeling I'm on everyone's ignore list ....
 
Re: OT: SPF mafia round 7 - Return to Salem

Tell you what thy... in the unlikely event that we go into the night, and the even more unlikely event I'll make it out alive the next day, I promise I will dedicate that entire day to trying to get the crowd to lynch you :P

Is that better? :grin:
 
Re: OT: SPF mafia round 7 - Return to Salem

Cool. :grin:
 
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Oh well, looks like I'm due to die today. As I said when I voted for Thyiad that day, I was more suspicious of her at the time. I thought Magicboy was just a confused townie. But hey, this is why I shouldn't bother defending myself, people ignore the key points and still go with what they want. Merlin wants me lynched, I get lynched. I at least will still vote for the one I'm most concerned about, not who someone else tells me to.

Nazdakka

At this point there's not enough time in the day for everyone to come in and unvote me anyway, so I'm probably dead. See you all next game.
 
Re: OT: SPF mafia round 7 - Return to Salem

I want you lynched because I suspect you are mafia. Not because I bear some sort of personal grudge against you. Heck, if you turn out to be familia, I can be pretty sure I'll turn up dead tonight, so I guess you can then say I got my just desserts...
 
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I know. It's just a game, and you're certainly not making anything personal out of it. You're finding in game reasons to be suspicious of me, and I'd rather someone like that be on our side than someone who's just going based on post count.
 
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