OT: SPF mafia round 7 - Return to Salem

Re: OT: SPF mafia round 7 - Return to Salem

UNvote Goltar

Vote Puresummon

I've been reviewing early posts (presuming greed woudl be used very very early on). He's far too quiet. I considered voting Merlin but I'm not sure if you can turn a townie power role, so I'm going to presume not.

No one is going to greed me - too weird posting. Goltar .. meh. Jason is a bigger suspect than goltar (I was bandwaggoning earlier.)

Nope, I'm sticking with puresummon.
 
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I do not know if this little tid bit of information helps at all but in Goltar's post number 595 he thinks that Bob is the doc and really did not want to vote for him. Now that bob has made the claim that he is indeed the doctor and if goltar was in fact the last remaining baddie, wouldn't he have killed the doc last night or the the night before so that Bob could not prevent any NKs.

So at the moment goltar has dropped a little down the list of suspects. So that only leaves Thyiad and Naz above him. But at the moment both serdash and puresummon are niggling at me. Pure always seems to say that he is in class - from going over previous games the baddies tend to like to use work or class as an excuse.
Serdash has only posted once today - last game was the same also. But that being said he gave more of a reason for the way that he is voting than he is in this game. Hmmmm

With that being said Naz's change in posting style is really niggling at me the most so
Vote Naz
Just can't shake this feeling at the moment
 
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Thyiad you make a very good point about Puresummon. But have you picked up anything out of the ordinary with what he has been saying. As I said in my previous post something is niggling at me about him but I just can't seem to put my finger on it. Hence why I have not voted for him.
 
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@Thyiad - No, townie powerroles can't be turned. Nor could rival factions. Heh. I read: 'He's far too quiet. I considered voting Merlin...' Lol. That would be the first time YOU of all people accused me of being too quiet :P

@Maatiarna - I suspected either Bob or Jason to be the doc. Only in the last few days has enough information surfaced for everyone to be able to deduce who the doc is, and other powerroles were known at that time as well (Ray and me). Given the current situation, and given that the doc would in all likelyhood have tried to protect Ray earlier, they decided to get rid of Ray first. Remember, now that the enemy faction is down to one, Ray would have as much influence as me.
He just blocks his most likely suspect at night, and if no NK has taken place, outs that person and has him/her lynched. Continuing along that same line, tonight I 'll probably be killed, and tomorrow night Bob.
 
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@Merlin, Jason, and Naz-

You three have the most analytical posts this round so I'm directing this to you. I wonder if it would be beneficial to go through the thread again and consider what we would learn if we lynch goltar or Thyiad or anyone else? I remember someone, not exactly who, doing this in a previous thread and comming up with the final mafia from a group of about five people. I know it'll be more difficult this round due to the false evidence and side switching.

I hope I'm making sense. I'm trying to say, think like this: If we lynch goltar and he comes up townie, what does that tell us about Thyiad? Or anyone else for that matter?

Maybe you're already doing this in your re-reading, in one respect I hope you are as it's a good thing to do, in another more selfish respect I hope you're not and this is an original idea to you and it'll help us win :grin:

Naz said:
The claimed power roles should be considered clean - the scenario where one could be an EotF is highly unlikely. Also, anyone who gave us new information after night 2 is clean, basically meaing that Maartiarna is fine.

So we can trust...
Bob
Merlin
Maartiarna.
Click to expand...

I'd add Friedbananazzz to this list as he was vouched for by Merlin.

Excluding these four and yourselves, that would leave Merlin with six persons to consider and Jason/Naz with five. Not an easy task, I know. I hope some wisdom comes from this post that helps us.
 
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Bob I consider two of those two you asked to re-read the thread as suspects.

@maatti - Just a general .... unhappyness with Puresummon. I will re-read the thread tomorrow (bit tired now) but he's been quiet all the way through and while it could be down to school etc, I'm just not happy.

Not that I trust anyone else still alive.
 
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Oh and he voted for Lister then switched to Liquid. I haven't checked his other votes.
 
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Although if we're going for someone too clever by half .. then jason as a framer of me is very likely. :tongue:
 
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Well at least Thy and Maatiarna are agreeing on something, even if it is that I am suspicious. It beats the back and forth.

@Maatiarna-- I believe I have said I was in class twice. Both times I said I would think about it and come back and post later, and that is exactly what I did.

@Thy-- It seems to me that there are a few players who have been pretty quiet this game. I believe that I have posted a few times that Dash was being way too quiet and voting in a very odd pattern. I just don't see relatively how I have been "way too quiet" compared to some of the other posters.

I am keeping my vote on Goltar because it seems we are going to have to go through Jason/Merlin's suspect list one by one and hope we hit the right one in time (unless someone picks up on something to do it a better way).
 
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Apparently, a couple of concerns are coming up about me. First, why did I suggest Magicboy might have been turned? I'm fond of coming up with bizarre possibilities. Right or wrong, it's fun to imagine complex schemes. That's just how I am. I've done that in previous games (much to Naz's dislike) and I'm trying to tone it down this time. He could have been, it's a possibility, so I examined it.

Second, why do I wait to vote until the end of the day? The rules state that in order to unvote, you have to specifically unvote for the person you voted for. I'm not likely to remember that (ask water_moon afterwards about my patchy memory for details) and I'm not particularly fond of hunting back through for my posts just to see who I voted for. So I decided that with this rule in place, I'd just save my vote for near the end of the day (or in lukin's case I was pretty certain I wouldn't want to change my vote) so there'd be no worries about unvoting. Plus, at the beginning, before we knew they'd selected greed, it was a way to protect myself from vengeance.

I'm still really not decided on who gets my vote today. Obviously not Merlin or Bob. Though neither is completely verified, it's safe enough to say they're not the remaining enemy. Probably not Jason, as he is at least being helpful for the most part. Though he could very well be leading us into a trap. I'm not confident about Thyiad, but I don't think she's an enemy. Serdash and maatiarna aren't really setting anything off in my mind, but at this point, that's enough to make me suspicious of them, though with the Thyiad/maatiarna fight, I'm less suspicious of maatiarna. Puresummon is giving me a bit of a bad feeling, but I'll need to reread (something I'm not eager to do just yet). Naz is my most likely candidate, but again, I'm really not too sure at this point.
 
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Just realized I missed friedbananazzzz in there, but he's been cleared by Merlin.
 
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That vote form lister a confirmed rival mafia member to Liq a confirmed townie on day 1 totally went under my raidar today. I did not read my day 2 post clearly when I picked that up Doh. That really does not sit right at all. I will go back and re-read day one and two posts again.

I hope that helps a little Bob. Puresummon's voting pattern the first couple of days seems quite dodgy
 
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That vote form lister a confirmed rival mafia member to Liq a confirmed townie on day 1 totally went under my raidar today. I did not read my day 2 post clearly when I picked that up Doh. That really does not sit right at all. I will go back and re-read day one and two posts again.

I hope that helps a little Bob. Puresummon's voting pattern the first couple of days seems quite dodgy.

Any thoughts on that Merlin and Bob.:thumbsup:
 
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I still have a vote on Naz.
 
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Sorry Bob, must've missed that somehow. :rolleyes:

So... this should be better:
Code: 
Goltar  4      - Merlin, friedb, Naz, PureSummon
Naz     2      - maatiarna, Bob
Thyiad  1      - Serdash
PureS   1      - Thyiad

Ummm... so I think that leaves the non-voters at:
Goltar (which I find suspicious, despite his explaination)
Jason (he unvoted: goltar25)

Since goltar still didn't vote, I'm feeling a little more confident in my vote for him. Even though he has addressed some of the questions brought up about himself, he has said nothing at all about the likelyness of his being turned by Greed.


I posted a few days ago about Puresummon's odd vote change on day 1. He's had to defend it several times since then, so I don't think he should have to say it again. You can re-read his posts, but it's not really a great explanation.
 
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fried--you are right on both accounts. I have defended it several times, and its not really a great explanation, but its the best one I have because it is true.
 
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Puresummon voted for and then unvoted Sir Lister of Smeg (post 132) and then voted for liq (post 186) on day 1, after Lister had admitted to being rival mafia. His explaination on this is not lgoical. Given that on day 3 he voted Magicboy on day 3 before his Magicboy had enough votes to get lynched and he turned up rival mafia. So what I am wondering if Puresummon is the last remaining rival mafia member is why he did not vote for Thyiad as she was leading the vote tally on day 3.

Another tid bit of information Merlin you suspected Puresummon as being dirty day one (post 189). Puresummon is also the only person of interest left on our dearly departed Liq list that is not either dead or confirmed townie (post 227)

I really do not know what to think of this information have to think about it a little more. What do you think Merlin, Bob and Friedbananazzzz?

For now my vote stands.
 
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