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Scum does vote for scum now and then, and I voted for you. So, watch what you're saying. :loving:
Let me piece together these last 3 thoughts.
 
I looked it up, Carla. He voted for Pyro and Jcakes. Haven't looked up his reasoning yet.

Unvote 1: coju

There were others as well: Goryani, Malevolent, frozzzen, omg... that's a fairly decent voting average

Code:
Pyro-------Alive
Jcakes-----Alive
Goryani----[b]anti-town[/b]
Malevol----[b]anti-town[/b]
Frozzen----[b]anti-town[/b]
OMG--------Neutral

I thought there was something in who Malevol mentioned in his posts, but I'll just post who he didn't mention at all: Gwaihir, Laarz, Loz, Coju, and Uraj.

Post 919:
the franklin, i love how you go wow at noocles many failed votes and then fail one yourself

so many V1targets that we can assure thatsome of them are town, therefoer i think it is best not to rush blindly into alynch, we dont have anything real agaisnt anyone ( apart from frozzzen ofc ) yet, but if i am convinced of a persons scuminess ill happily jump onto the wagon. We still have to be careful though


My Scum List (people who i think may be scum but might not be)

-Noodle- acting very odd this game, extra lurky and nothing going on
-Autti- Justr playing with scumminess, he maybe a mason but if anybody was to be a spy in the masons it would be him IMO
-Uraj- hasn't done anything

and these people i have less of a bad feeling about but are still options

-PCM
-Jcakes
-CG

Just my 2 cents
D4 - pancakeman is dead. He was Sam. Pro Town. Eavesdropper.
D5 - Noodle is dead. He was Roz. Pro Town. Jailkeeper
D5 - Autti is dead. He was Diane. Pro Town. Waiter. Mod killed for inactivity.
This leaves Jcakes, CG, and Uraj from who a scum thinks is scum.

With that, I'll recant my unvote on jcakes

Vote 1: Pyrotechnician
Vote 2: Jcakes



 
Almost as odd as your Holy Wards, not quite. I measure it to be as odd as Jcakes toilet situation, but I have yet to see an effect of my actions. Maybe I'm not looking close enough but I'm not sure.

Well, that is true. Also very interesting that the masons have the same power. It seems to me that spiking drinks would be an anti-town thing, but if it was, why would you admit to it. I really am stumped on this one.

@GoryanI: No, I cannot think of any post where I lied in. He could be true about the jcakes being scum, though. With that.

Vote 1: Moar
Vote 2: Jcakes

I assume this was in response to me. Also why the vote on Moar? Why the unvote on both targets a few posts later? And then a revote on Jcakes. You have a lot of quotes, but could you actually explain what you are thinking, as I am not actually following your train of thought.


 
bolded for emphasis - this is pyro's response to Moar

If your best reasoning today for voting me consists of why not then I think there is an issue. I have been more than willing and much more active then a lot of people in this game and yet I have caught nothing but grief from you. I would swear if you weren't a mason that you were scum.
I still think we have no reason to assume she is innocent because she's a mason. My guess was autti was the scum mason, but now that leaves moar as the scum in my mind. (unless there is another one I've forgotten about? I can't remember)

Also, I agree with all of your comments on the apathy CG is showing, and about his claim, too.


 
Well, that is true. Also very interesting that the masons have the same power. It seems to me that spiking drinks would be an anti-town thing, but if it was, why would you admit to it. I really am stumped on this one.

The masons don't have the same power as far as I am reading it from Moar. I can spike the alcohol, be it gin, scotch, beer, white wine, or tequila. The masons can then choose to spike their drink with one of the liquors. After that I don't know what happens as Moar has not responded to me if they do something with it other than choosing what to spike. I would be curious to see if any of the nights our picks ligned up to see if there are any effects.


 
I too have no idea what coju is saying.

@All,
I think we may only have one faction left, and that Mal was a one-man band who recruited Gory or frozzzen. anyway, that's my best guess. I could have just been lucky with saves, or them unlucky with targeting.

Regarding suspicion of me. . .
I'm the only claimed doc (so far) and I was the one who mentioned frozzzen was trying to out the doc by claiming Daphne. I asked around who Daphne was to make sure everyone else was on the same page as me, thinking she would be a good doc character. If I just stated frozzzen's intentions w/o having heard the info from someone else I think I would have been NKed.
 
The masons don't have the same power as far as I am reading it from Moar. I can spike the alcohol, be it gin, scotch, beer, white wine, or tequila. The masons can then choose to spike their drink with one of the liquors. After that I don't know what happens as Moar has not responded to me if they do something with it other than choosing what to spike. I would be curious to see if any of the nights our picks ligned up to see if there are any effects.

I spike somebody's drink with gin. I choose whose drink I spike. Same for the other waiters. The selection of what we spike with matches the choice of drinks Pyro has.



 
bolded for emphasis - this is pyro's response to Moar


I still think we have no reason to assume she is innocent because she's a mason. My guess was autti was the scum mason, but now that leaves moar as the scum in my mind. (unless there is another one I've forgotten about? I can't remember)

Also, I agree with all of your comments on the apathy CG is showing, and about his claim, too.

Why do you think there is a scum mason at all?



 
I think our abilities are connected. I don't actually give the drinks to anyone I just spike it. I think it works like this:

Me (Choose to spike one of the 5 choices, Beer, White Wine, Tequila, Sctoch, Gin)
|
Waitors (Assigned a specific alcohol, they choose who receives the drink)
|
Person receives drink

Heres the run down of my night actions:
N1: Gin
N2: Whtie Wine
N3: Beer
N4: Tequila
N5: Scotch

So on N1 I spiked the Gin, you chose to serve that Gin to Martin. The only thing we don't know is what effect it had.
 
Your apathy concerns me and if I learned anything from my first game an apathetic player is a scummy player.

I'm sorry, what apathy? Trying to get the rest of the town to vote off Jcakes, who's proven to be the scummiest person in this thread so far, is apathy? I think you're taking the "I don't care how" statement out of context. You seem good at doing that. (Insert light-hearted joke here about having taken lessons from flubbucket)

No, see, apathy is when you don't want to vote for someone unless other people have started the train for you. Then you come in with a "Yeah, okay, that sounds good." Sound familiar? That's what you've been doing.

I notice you don't have a vote down on Jcakes yet. Why is that? Think that maybe the town will be divided enough to not lynch him today if you 'forget' to place your vote?

Hmm, let's cruise the rest of your vote history, shall we?

Day 2, first voting allowed. No votes on MartinLong. Interesting.
Day 3. No votes on Goryani. He even had a guilty result. More interesting.
Day 4. No votes on PCM. So far, this entire game, you haven't thrown a single Vote 1.
Day 5. Finally a vote 1, on Noodle. You were one of the last votes to come in, piled in at the end. Sort of like you knew Noodle wasn't a part of your team and you wanted to make sure he'd get lynched.
Day 6. Today. No vote yet. Awesome.

So, Mr. "I don't like to vote"... you want to accuse me of apathy? Pot, meet kettle.

If your best reasoning today for voting me consists of why not then I think there is an issue. I have been more than willing and much more active then a lot of people in this game and yet I have caught nothing but grief from you. I would swear if you weren't a mason that you were scum.

You may talk a lot, but there's no substance behind your words. You don't back them up with your weapon, the vote. That is a sign of someone who wants to be seen, but not noticed.

Unvote 1: Jcakes
Vote 1: Pyrotechnician




 
I think our abilities are connected. I don't actually give the drinks to anyone I just spike it. I think it works like this:

Me (Choose to spike one of the 5 choices, Beer, White Wine, Tequila, Sctoch, Gin)
|
Waitors (Assigned a specific alcohol, they choose who receives the drink)
|
Person receives drink

Heres the run down of my night actions:
N1: Gin
N2: Whtie Wine
N3: Beer
N4: Tequila
N5: Scotch

So on N1 I spiked the Gin, you chose to serve that Gin to Martin. The only thing we don't know is what effect it had.

I don't believe you on this. You get to choose the drink but not the person? That is really weird as we choose a person and have our drink. You should be able to choose person and drink with your ability.

Nothing happened to Martin the first Night, so your theory seems off.



 
Not another bomb threat. Why does it always come down to these? Anyways, in my opinion, the best use of the bomb is to take out a mafia trying to night kill people - can you give any evidence you have been trying to do that? Or have you just been trying to stay alive?

The best use? That's the only use for the bomb.

The only way to properly play the bomb is to be the best scum hunter that you can and try to draw the night kill for being dangerous. From past experiences, I've noticed that if the bomb tries to breadcrumb doc or cop so the mafia sees it, instead the town sees it and you are counter-claimed. Lynching me deprives the town of a dead anti-town, so that's not conducive to winning the game. At the risk of sounding egoist, I was sort of hoping my reputation would get me killed.

You ask why I didn't lie about my role. Simple.

Want to know what happens to people who lie about their role? Look at Jcakes for a clue. You don't even need the threat of a lie detector to know that liars get lynched.



 
Wow CG, are you a little cranky today? Wake up on the wrong side of the bed did ya?

I'm sorry, what apathy? Trying to get the rest of the town to vote off Jcakes, who's proven to be the scummiest person in this thread so far, is apathy? I think you're taking the "I don't care how" statement out of context. You seem good at doing that. (Insert light-hearted joke here about having taken lessons from flubbucket)

No, see, apathy is when you don't want to vote for someone unless other people have started the train for you. Then you come in with a "Yeah, okay, that sounds good." Sound familiar? That's what you've been doing.

I notice you don't have a vote down on Jcakes yet. Why is that? Think that maybe the town will be divided enough to not lynch him today if you 'forget' to place your vote?

My apathy comment was for your lack of concern for who else was voted for as long as Jcakes was involved, I understand you wanting to get rid of a specific player but it sounded like as long as Jcakes was involved we could vote off anyone else and it wouldn't matter one bit to you.

Hmm, let's cruise the rest of your vote history, shall we?

Day 2, first voting allowed. No votes on MartinLong. Interesting.
Day 3. No votes on Goryani. He even had a guilty result. More interesting.
Day 4. No votes on PCM. So far, this entire game, you haven't thrown a single Vote 1.
Day 5. Finally a vote 1, on Noodle. You were one of the last votes to come in, piled in at the end. Sort of like you knew Noodle wasn't a part of your team and you wanted to make sure he'd get lynched.
Day 6. Today. No vote yet. Awesome.

So, Mr. "I don't like to vote"... you want to accuse me of apathy? Pot, meet kettle.

You may talk a lot, but there's no substance behind your words. You don't back them up with your weapon, the vote. That is a sign of someone who wants to be seen, but not noticed.

Unvote 1: Jcakes
Vote 1: Pyrotechnician

Ok, you want to run through my vote history? Fine sure.

Day 2 - Moar and Martin were essentially Ram rodding eachother until the end of the day, there is nothing certain on Day 1 (essentially day 1) and I was letting their arguement play out, others apparently felt stronger about Martin then I did and locked him, there were a lot of players this day phase that didn't vote for him.
Day 3 - Martin had just been "magically saved" after being locked the following day, there were multiple people with doubts of him being the cop and I was one of them. I'm not going to blindly follow someone especially after how the first voting day progressed. Besides the point that by the time I even got to the thread to the post he was already locked, should I have thrown down a pointless vote as well? Would that be less scummy?
Day 4 - Hm, no votes on PCM, and what was he again? Oh yeah, town. I was much more inclined to vote for Uraj then I was for PCM but once again, a pointless vote since PCM was the apparently "chosen" one
Day 5 - Or, that it was my belief that Jcakes wasn't scum and I refused to vote for him, I even stated if he does come up town then I guess I'm screwed but it seemed like he was being piled on for flimsey reasoning. Of course we can't have a no lynch situation and lynching a lurker is better than a no lynch.
Day 6 - If everyone else is so convinced that Jcakes is scum then yes, I'll lay down my vote, it looks like hes getting the Vote 2, but if I remember correctly I think the point was brought up that scum would have to participate in Vote 2 in order to get a lynch and I doubt at this point we still have 75% town majority.

Vote 2: Jcakes


 
I don't believe you on this. You get to choose the drink but not the person? That is really weird as we choose a person and have our drink. You should be able to choose person and drink with your ability.

Nothing happened to Martin the first Night, so your theory seems off.

I get to choose the drink, not the person. But then again you get to choose the person, not the drink. So I think it balances itself out. If I got to choose the person then choosing the drink would be irrelevant. The only one that can confirm nothing happened to Martin is Martin and obviously we can't chat with him right now. I would assume that the drink takes effect either that night, or the following day. There are multiple possibilities.


 
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