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Son of a . . .

Vote 2: frozzzen


Pharphis, honestly I still need to go back and read several pages. I've been popping in for a minute or two here and there, but nothing that's allowed me to do more than scan a couple quick posts, and rush to place a vote. I'll admit upfront that I've allowed myself to get lazy and have become accustomed to a more relaxed vote acceptance policy that we've seen in several recent games in Community. This absolutely isn't a shot at Thy, because a strict vote acceptance polcy is both traditional and entirely within reason.

Thy did count your last one thankfully. This one on the other hand has text after it ... is there a facepalm emote?

My apologies to Martin; I had indeed missed 809. Presumably I'd ran out of fingers by then.

If anyone spots stuff like that, feel free to PM me.

For those completely confused about voting rules: I'm using ThunderCats with the stipulation that I'm not as fussy with spacing but do want votes at the end of the post. If you prefer, I'll switch to TC's and get all anal about spacing and capitalization of "V"'s. TC suggested I get people to PM me with votes but I'm sure we don't want that!

My first thought was holy crap, what happened to your fingers? Then I realized it was a counting joke. I need a nap :P

As for voting, like you said, this is pretty much TC's rules. I think we have had a string of mods that were less strict, and people got lazy. People just need to get back to being strict with the votes.

Wow,

Vote 1: Noodle

Lol. At work so no time for real thoughts.

...

No, leave it as is. Changing rules midway through the game just makes things tougher. This new voting scheme has actually grown on me a bit. It's become quite hilarious in its own way.

This

I said "lol" after my vote in a display of sarcasm.

Did you mean the Noodle vote to count? Or did you purposefully put a vote in that didn't count?


 
I wasn't serious about changing the voting rules. I was tactfully pointing out that I could be a bigger arse if necessary.

That didn't come out right.

Anyway, perhaps scum-hunting would be more productive, although there is a record of about 1600 posts in a game so we could go for that...
 
I don't know about you other gurlz, but meza wantza drinkz!!! I'm a bit parched after all that...

Oh and...

Vote 1: Pyrotechnician

You made this incredibly difficult to respond too by putting your responses in quotes, thanks a ton...

I'm going to do a My original post, followed by glibs post, and then my response so everyone can follow...

Start of post:

Me:
I was going to say you forgot an option, but quickly picked it up. There are multiple possibilities to every situation and none of them are definate until role reveal. I'm not fully inclined to believe Jcakes claim yet as town roleblocker (psychiatrist in this case I am unsure makes sense with a jailkeeper already being removed from play. Then again we had a cop flip and we have another cop so who knows.

Glibb:
***Well that's because he's not the town role blocker he's YOUR MAFIA ROLEBLOCKER. If he were town there sure would be quite a few town power roles you've listed huh??

Response:
The only role in question here is cupcakes, the other ones are already established either through role flips or claims. I was merely pointing out that it seemed odd to have both a jailkeeper and a roleblocker have the same alighnment since they have a crossover of abilities (jailkeeper roleblocks/protects while roleblocker obviously only roleblocks).

Me:
This has been covered before, anyone that refused to vote 2 would essentially automatically be scum due to the fact that there should be no reason for a townie not to vote for a confirmed guilty result.

Glib:
***This was an easy on for you since frozzzen isn't on your team, Bandwagon-a-go-go!!

Response:
Its not really a bandwagon when there is a guilty result from a cop and Goryani's flip yesterday almost proves his role with certainty. What about the other 16 (whatever number, don't know what the actual count is right now) including yourself that are apparently "bandwagoning" are they scum too?

Me:
The mason group is rather large, but this is a rather large game so there is a possibility of there being 5. There is also the possibility of one of them being scum but once again another item that cannot be confirmed until flip or investigation.

Glib:
***I have measured your sauce and found it .....weak.

Response:
I'm glad your measurement skills are terrible as always. Others seem to think that it is a possibility as well, although I don't think it is the first avenue that we should explore through votes/investigation.

Me:
Excellent arguement as always glib. Tell me you didn't at least consider the possibility of CG being scum after Goryani did the quick vote.

Glib:
***Caluin isn't one to fall easy prey to such manipulations as OMG's bomb thingy. However, I see Goryani's plan as worthy.

Response:
I'm not sure why you are praising Goryani by deeming his plan worthy. Caluin is obviously a more experienced player than I am, but he was also the one that was pushed into this situation whether it be by Goryani's plan to cast doubt or Goryani's technique for saving his scum buddy. It comes down to us to determine what the real purpose of the vote was and not discussing it does not seem like the correct plan of action. I had a concern and I voiced it, I'm sorry if you were too smart for Goryani's worthy plan and I was not.

Me:
It can only affect antitown? Interesting, why didn't you mention this in your original role claim?

Glib:
***But, bussing your buddy so quickly?? You really should learn how to hold your water better. I'm sure Goryani is rolling over in his grave watching you stab poor scummy Jcakes in the back like that.

Response:
It was a simple question trying to understand why he didn't include it in his role reveal. I now know that it was part of his original role reveal because Jcakes pointed it out in this point:

I did, see below.

I can't remember every line of the thread so an honest mistake there, but if it had not been part of his original claim it would have stirred a little more thought on why it was all of a sudden "added" as an after the fact kind of thing.

You say that it was the only logical thing and seemed sure that it must have been a tell that CG was scum in the post above. And then you later mention that "he did it to create suspicion". This looks to me as if you try to correct a failed attempt to frame CG.

I said it was the only logical thing because the only two scenarios I originally came up with were that he made the vote to save his scum buddy (sounds like a logical option to me), or he made the vote to try and cast doubt on CG (but why would he do this if he would be killed by the explosion if he didn't make the vote, doesn't sound logical to me). Therefore eliminating one of my two original thoughts. I didn't think of the other possibility where Goryani would be sure enough that the bomb claim by OMG was a fake one that he would want to set CG up for the next day phase by creating this scenario.

Interesting. Are you saying that one of us should be lynched or investigated? Which of us then? Solar Ice flipped town already. So lynch us all instead of scum to be sure? I rather want to be lynching and investigating scum/possible scum.

I'm not saying that one of you should be lynched or investigated, there are many better options right now. It was just a mention of the possibility that one of you could potentially be scum and there is a lot of uncertainty in a game like this especially with such a large player base and the number of power roles that we have had so far. There are other players including myself that have had scum vibes from Autti and even though he is part of your mason group he could potentially be scum. Until someone flips, nothing is certain.

Okay, I can multiquote now.
I would consider this theory a shot in the dark, had we not already suspected frozzzen of being scum and have reason to believe there may be a doc (only 1 kill last night)



Wow, sounds like a doc role more than anything else. How could this be an SK role, at the very least?
If there is a better candidate for doc then please discount this idea a little bit more than you already were :P


I agree with this completely. Frozzzen's post is stinking of lies and misdirection. I don't even expect him to respond to all of this, because I think he will try to keep his mouth shut so he doesn't reveal any more information.


Anyway, the theory:
Frozzzen and his buddies thought about who in either show sounded the most like a doc,and decided the next one of them found guilty will claim that role, and as SK. SK so that they could push more doubt on CG (By claiming the cop and some innocents are mafia - like Martin said)
Daphne was the character they chose, and because they can't choose any other dead people they went with it. (meaning Daphne is still alive, if there is one). They would have done this in hopes of a counter-claim by Daphne, so they would know who the doc probably is.

First off, this is a lot of talk about the doctor for not wanting them to claim. Second, I'm not sure how much reliance we can put on names to be directly related to the roles and their abilities. It is an interesting theory but we don't really know if any of the other Names relate to their roles (Not that I would know since I know absolutely nothing about Cheers/Fraiser) and hope that wouldn't affect my ability to determine the truthfulness of a person's claim. If they did come up with this plan then it was a good attempt, but I don't think we will be able to tell for sure (safely) until frozzzen flips.

@pharphis
Ok, I understand your thinking now. Thanks for clarifying. You have a point there. We'll know by tomorrow as there is role and name reveal and as stated several times before, not voting frozzzen today with vote 2 will be scum reveal. So that should get done anyway.

I am very suspicious about Pyro. He's my prime candidate for vote 1 today, but I'd like to hear from him before I cast my vote. We still have good time.

I thank you for not trying to bus me before allowing me to respond. If you have anything further please feel free to ask them.

Noodle, can you give us some insight on your thoughts as to who is scummy? I mean, it's fine to lurk (maybe) but if you're a townie you should at least try to help a bit more. Especially since this game you haven't.

Hahahahahaha, asking Noodle to give insight, thats a good one.


 
Just been checking the votes and on an unrelated note, I'm still confused at the player count.

19 names.

Day 4: 18 players alive. 14 to lynch on V2

Vote2 is Players * 0.75 (rndUP) + 1

w/ 18 players (why is someone not accounted for)
Vote2 req:
18 * 0.75 = 13.5
RndUp to 14
14 +1
= 15 for lynch

w/ 19 players (I can see all 19 are still in this game today)
Vote2 req: 16

I want to point this out now sooner rather than latter.
 
I'm comfortable with the Noodle vote, even though he got the format correct once (I think), this many misvotes is looking very scummy. His flip won't be as valuable as some, since he has been so quiet and nobody has really come out in vehement defense of him, but it is far better to lynch scum and get a less useful flip than lynch town and get a good one, eh?

Vote 1: Noodle
 
MartinLong - Vote requirement has been fixed.
Thank you for pointing it out.
 
I'm comfortable with the Noodle vote, even though he got the format correct once (I think), this many misvotes is looking very scummy. His flip won't be as valuable as some, since he has been so quiet and nobody has really come out in vehement defense of him, but it is far better to lynch scum and get a less useful flip than lynch town and get a good one, eh?

Vote 1: Noodle

Compared to your previous long pontifications this seems sort of......well......farted out to be blunt.


 
MartinLong - Vote requirement has been fixed.
Thank you for pointing it out.

Sorry for nagging even more, but this is what I also was talking about;

1. Moar
2. Pyrotechnician
3. Caluin Graye
4. Malevolent
5. Gwaihir
6. Noodle
7. Jcakes
8. Autti
9. MartinLong
10. pancakeman
11. frozzzen
12. nulio
13. pharphis
14. thefranklin
15. Laarz
16. flubbucket
17. LozHinge the Unhinged
18. coju
19. Uraj

Day Four - 18 alive (note to self you checked it, TC checked it, don't change it!)

Could it be that nulio is not in the game anymore (for inactivity or no vote), but wasn't removed from the list?


 
Compared to your previous long pontifications this seems sort of......well......farted out to be blunt.
There isn't that much to say on the matter. Noodle has screwed up his votes so many times that I am now convinced that he is doing it purposefully. Describing why, especially when others already have, seemed superfluous.



 
No, it's been like that for a while. We aren't sure what is going on, but for some reason she has confirmed that the amount of people alive is different from the amount of names. It just hasn't gotten that much discussion.
And PCM gets the "Bloody hell someone was paying attention" award.

:tongue:

Yes, Names = x, alive = y. x ? y

Anyone else posting algebra is getting mod-killed. :tongue:



 
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