flubbucket1
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Noodle was confirmed mafia through modkill.
I don't understand what this means.
Noodle was confirmed mafia through modkill.
I don't understand what this means.
City Mafia Game Thread
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FredOfErik
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Claim time:
I am from Dallas, TX. one-shot vigilante. And I did indeed kill laarz last night. The info I received was: Role: Ninja, Allignment: Mafia.
Before people ask: I chose this role because it seemed to me that it could turn out to be a very powerful role for both mafia and town. That doesn't really require any complicated elaboration - an extra (well-used) kill could tip the game for both factions. To pad myself on the shoulder a bit, that is actually also what it did. With noodle, laarz, and asrrin out I figure this leaves us with the SK and two mafias against 6 townies. Also, it seemed like a fun role.
I did strongly consider going forward earlier but hesitated since I really wasn't confident enough on anybody's allignment to chose a target for a day kill (if I used my power during daytime it would be published in this thread). If I then happened to choose the wrong target during the day, town would obviously lose my target and I would look even scummier and possibly get lynched. If I came forward without using my kill I would most likely be NK'd. I didn't want to save my ability any further in fear of getting NK'd, so I used it tonight.
As for why I chose Laarz: The target I had in mind during yesterday was at first pyro. However, his defense (as I also stated yesterday) was pretty good. I'm still not 100% certain about his allignment, but yeah. Laarz was looking scummier to me and wasn't getting to much heat during the day. I admit, it was a bit of a crab shoot but apparently turned out good.
Claim time:
I am from Dallas, TX. one-shot vigilante. And I did indeed kill laarz last night. The info I received was: Role: Ninja, Allignment: Mafia.
Before people ask: I chose this role because it seemed to me that it could turn out to be a very powerful role for both mafia and town. That doesn't really require any complicated elaboration - an extra (well-used) kill could tip the game for both factions. To pad myself on the shoulder a bit, that is actually also what it did. With noodle, laarz, and asrrin out I figure this leaves us with the SK and two mafias against 6 townies. Also, it seemed like a fun role.
I did strongly consider going forward earlier but hesitated since I really wasn't confident enough on anybody's allignment to chose a target for a day kill (if I used my power during daytime it would be published in this thread). If I then happened to choose the wrong target during the day, town would obviously lose my target and I would look even scummier and possibly get lynched. If I came forward without using my kill I would most likely be NK'd. I didn't want to save my ability any further in fear of getting NK'd, so I used it tonight.
As for why I chose Laarz: The target I had in mind during yesterday was at first pyro. However, his defense (as I also stated yesterday) was pretty good. I'm still not 100% certain about his allignment, but yeah. Laarz was looking scummier to me and wasn't getting to much heat during the day. I admit, it was a bit of a crab shoot but apparently turned out good.
Re: City Mafia Game Thread
Thinking out loud for a sec here...
If we started with 5 scum, 12 town, 1 sk, and we assume the a worst case scenario of the only dead scum are the ones we know about, that puts us at 3 scum, 5 town, 1 sk. Extending further, missing scum today puts us potentially at 3 scum, 2 town, 1 sk tomorrow (1 to lynch, 2 to nightkill). In related news, it may be a good idea for the Vig to share who he killed and what their flip was.
Other stuff...
My claim: Vanilla (missed role was rolecop), currently Yuma, AZ, formerly Wichita, KS.
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Hey, RE. I take from your reasoning that you think coju is lying about his claim?
Thinking out loud for a sec here...
If we started with 5 scum, 12 town, 1 sk, and we assume the a worst case scenario of the only dead scum are the ones we know about, that puts us at 3 scum, 5 town, 1 sk. Extending further, missing scum today puts us potentially at 3 scum, 2 town, 1 sk tomorrow (1 to lynch, 2 to nightkill). In related news, it may be a good idea for the Vig to share who he killed and what their flip was.
Other stuff...
My claim: Vanilla (missed role was rolecop), currently Yuma, AZ, formerly Wichita, KS.
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Hey, RE. I take from your reasoning that you think coju is lying about his claim?
Re: City Mafia Game Thread
I find this suspicious, as Laarz hammered Asrrin with several hours left in the day. It seems an easy lie from mafia to claim everything true except the alignment of the deceased.
I find this suspicious, as Laarz hammered Asrrin with several hours left in the day. It seems an easy lie from mafia to claim everything true except the alignment of the deceased.
FredOfErik
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Get ready for the best defense ever: it isn't!
No really, I can't add anything else to that. Take my word if you want.
Different topic: the SK. Am I the only one that is assuming it must be a reasonably high pick? I know I considered choosing it, but figured it would likely be taken. The only players left in top 10 bids are: Pyro, me, Val, RE, and Gwaihir. Pyro is pretty much confirmed. So is Val after Noodle's flip. I'm the vig. I'm think there's quite good odds for the SK being either RE or Gwaihir. Time for a claim guys?
Get ready for the best defense ever: it isn't!
No really, I can't add anything else to that. Take my word if you want.
Different topic: the SK. Am I the only one that is assuming it must be a reasonably high pick? I know I considered choosing it, but figured it would likely be taken. The only players left in top 10 bids are: Pyro, me, Val, RE, and Gwaihir. Pyro is pretty much confirmed. So is Val after Noodle's flip. I'm the vig. I'm think there's quite good odds for the SK being either RE or Gwaihir. Time for a claim guys?
FredOfErik
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Re: City Mafia Game Thread
I asked for a city replacement for fun. Yuma is a cool city with gunfighters and old people, Wichita has wheat and corn.
I asked for a city replacement for fun. Yuma is a cool city with gunfighters and old people, Wichita has wheat and corn.
coju
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Re: City Mafia Game Thread
Wheat and corn are the basis of the old people's gun fighting: wisky, beer, vodka... didn't think about that?
Vote: Gambor
Simply on that reasoning, and I wanted to vote for somebody. Simply.
There are plenty others that may be better: I personally take pyro as town, as Mafia having the top 2 picks seems obsurd. Though, we were warned that one side could be op.
Wheat and corn are the basis of the old people's gun fighting: wisky, beer, vodka... didn't think about that?
Vote: Gambor
Simply on that reasoning, and I wanted to vote for somebody. Simply.
There are plenty others that may be better: I personally take pyro as town, as Mafia having the top 2 picks seems obsurd. Though, we were warned that one side could be op.
FredOfErik
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There are several reasons to think pyro would be both town and scum, but since the picks were decided randomly with our bids that is completely irrelevant.
There are several reasons to think pyro would be both town and scum, but since the picks were decided randomly with our bids that is completely irrelevant.
Pyrotechnician1
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The tree is obviously the most powerful role in the game! :crazyeyes: He could have been a pretty devastating player if he didn't drop off the face of the earth.
Lynching lurkers from what I understand is usually a good strategy in the game, but since all of those people are now dead, I'm not sure how this is relevant? I'm not sure how you could have not suspected Laarz, Goryani brought up excellent points and his best defense was I was not/never was those roles, multiple people thought he was something he claimed not to be. And what
RE is trying to lay out the numbers of who is remaining be it town, SK, or mafia. Depending on how many mafia we started with we could be pretty close to losing this if we don't lynch correctly today.
Does anyone find it odd that both Flubb and RE have posted already, but have made no mention of their role while everyone else has willingly come forward? Still waiting to hear from Gwaihir obviously as well but it is early in the day phase.
The tree is obviously the most powerful role in the game! :crazyeyes: He could have been a pretty devastating player if he didn't drop off the face of the earth.
Lynching lurkers from what I understand is usually a good strategy in the game, but since all of those people are now dead, I'm not sure how this is relevant? I'm not sure how you could have not suspected Laarz, Goryani brought up excellent points and his best defense was I was not/never was those roles, multiple people thought he was something he claimed not to be. And what
RE is trying to lay out the numbers of who is remaining be it town, SK, or mafia. Depending on how many mafia we started with we could be pretty close to losing this if we don't lynch correctly today.
Does anyone find it odd that both Flubb and RE have posted already, but have made no mention of their role while everyone else has willingly come forward? Still waiting to hear from Gwaihir obviously as well but it is early in the day phase.
Pyrotechnician1
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Missed a quote...This seems like the most reasonable thing to me, since both of their roles could expose either the mafia or the SK they were definately going to be the first ones to take out.
Missed a quote...This seems like the most reasonable thing to me, since both of their roles could expose either the mafia or the SK they were definately going to be the first ones to take out.
RlyehExiled
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I didn't know we were mass claiming it was suggested but not started when I posted.
I'm the party host, I took it because I thought my usual tactic of breadcrumbing power roles would get me NK'd if I left subtle hints that I took the cop...apprently they were too subtle. My city is Jacksonvilla, FA. Now i've come forward as party host I'm likley to not get NK'd until near the end to not give the ability information to town...if that made sense :/. For all other intents and purposes I'm a VT.
@Gambor: No I wasn't saying that at all, I was posting speculation based purley off the night and hadn't seen Coju's claim eariler, if the Vigs info is correct and honest and Laarz was mafia then we're in a slightly better position than was previously thought.
I didn't know we were mass claiming it was suggested but not started when I posted.
I'm the party host, I took it because I thought my usual tactic of breadcrumbing power roles would get me NK'd if I left subtle hints that I took the cop...apprently they were too subtle. My city is Jacksonvilla, FA. Now i've come forward as party host I'm likley to not get NK'd until near the end to not give the ability information to town...if that made sense :/. For all other intents and purposes I'm a VT.
@Gambor: No I wasn't saying that at all, I was posting speculation based purley off the night and hadn't seen Coju's claim eariler, if the Vigs info is correct and honest and Laarz was mafia then we're in a slightly better position than was previously thought.
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3 kills, 2 power roles. This got scary - I really hope FOE is town. One thing from yesterday - I am really curious about TC - I wouldn't think a special win condition would give rolecop no result. That means we likely have a jailkeeper.
I am not sure that the early claim was the best path, but it seems most people seem to think it is a good idea. Pyro, you pointed out we have no claim from flubbs, but I don't recall seeing BA claim either. I think I may have some information, but I would like to hear what BA and flubbs have to say first, so I am holding off until later today for my claim.
3 kills, 2 power roles. This got scary - I really hope FOE is town. One thing from yesterday - I am really curious about TC - I wouldn't think a special win condition would give rolecop no result. That means we likely have a jailkeeper.
I am not sure that the early claim was the best path, but it seems most people seem to think it is a good idea. Pyro, you pointed out we have no claim from flubbs, but I don't recall seeing BA claim either. I think I may have some information, but I would like to hear what BA and flubbs have to say first, so I am holding off until later today for my claim.
flubbucket1
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So you chose a role which would give information only if you were night killed? Why would you with so many other choices? I find your reasoning to be illogical.
What I find logical is you chose serial killer and that you are also mafia. Your voting record has been less than sterling, (one for Laarz right at the buzzer, and one for Ankeli a confirmed townie).
I see you as anti-town.
Vote: RlyehExiled
So you chose a role which would give information only if you were night killed? Why would you with so many other choices? I find your reasoning to be illogical.
What I find logical is you chose serial killer and that you are also mafia. Your voting record has been less than sterling, (one for Laarz right at the buzzer, and one for Ankeli a confirmed townie).
I see you as anti-town.
Vote: RlyehExiled
Pyrotechnician1
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Let me just say, none of you are really impressing me right now...
I'm not sure that I may just be "missing" the subtle hints (which is why they are subtle) but I didn't really find anything that said "hey I'm the cop" in any of your posts.
Assuming that TC wasn't bluffing there is either a roleblocker or a jailkeeper, if the jailkeeper is town then they made a poor selection last night, if the jailkeeper is mafia that would make "some" more sense but that would be sort of strange since it blocks any kills as well, a roleblocker is most likely as TC was roleblocked and they didn't step forward at the time ankeli was being hung. BA was established at the beginning of last day phase as the hider since he stole my role. Waiting for everyone else to step forward first is not convincing me of your intentions but I'll let you fight it out with flubb over that one as he seems pretty reluctant as well.
As stated above, your completely avoiding the subject of your role and persecuting others of their role selection, not exactly a smart move in my book. I know I can't say much due to the way I chose my role, but assuming that no one else visited you in the night party host would be quite useful in indentifying a person to lynch the next day essentially making it a one for one trade (similar to the bomb, but the bomb is more definate). Also I think you should throw yourself into the same boat if your going to go off of voting history.
Let me just say, none of you are really impressing me right now...
I'm not sure that I may just be "missing" the subtle hints (which is why they are subtle) but I didn't really find anything that said "hey I'm the cop" in any of your posts.
Assuming that TC wasn't bluffing there is either a roleblocker or a jailkeeper, if the jailkeeper is town then they made a poor selection last night, if the jailkeeper is mafia that would make "some" more sense but that would be sort of strange since it blocks any kills as well, a roleblocker is most likely as TC was roleblocked and they didn't step forward at the time ankeli was being hung. BA was established at the beginning of last day phase as the hider since he stole my role. Waiting for everyone else to step forward first is not convincing me of your intentions but I'll let you fight it out with flubb over that one as he seems pretty reluctant as well.
As stated above, your completely avoiding the subject of your role and persecuting others of their role selection, not exactly a smart move in my book. I know I can't say much due to the way I chose my role, but assuming that no one else visited you in the night party host would be quite useful in indentifying a person to lynch the next day essentially making it a one for one trade (similar to the bomb, but the bomb is more definate). Also I think you should throw yourself into the same boat if your going to go off of voting history.
RlyehExiled
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Re: City Mafia Game Thread
I know, I did them too subtle, I should of kept my way of breadcrumbing constant but decided to try a different approach. I beleive I said something like "I know noodle didn't take the cop" or "Top picks weren't the cop"
@Flub: Because it was fun, and because I was middle pick, I wanted a role I would definalty get, I was pretty sure "bomb" would already be taken, and this worked as a 1:1 trade (assuming no one else visted me) and meant I had to get my self NK'd Something I thought would be easy with my usual Hansel and Gretl style crumb dropping should be, guess I was wrong :/
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I know, I did them too subtle, I should of kept my way of breadcrumbing constant but decided to try a different approach. I beleive I said something like "I know noodle didn't take the cop" or "Top picks weren't the cop"
@Flub: Because it was fun, and because I was middle pick, I wanted a role I would definalty get, I was pretty sure "bomb" would already be taken, and this worked as a 1:1 trade (assuming no one else visted me) and meant I had to get my self NK'd Something I thought would be easy with my usual Hansel and Gretl style crumb dropping should be, guess I was wrong :/
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Re: City Mafia Game Thread
Vote: FredOfErik
Him or flub today is what I would enjoy seeing happen.
Erik convinently killed Laarz after a role cop said what his role was.
He says Laarz was mafia to gain credibility that he is a pro town vigilante
He said he didnt have enough information for a day kill, which would have proven everything he said, but with the exact same amount of information he goes ahead with the nk
Get rid of him. I have very strong feeling he is anti-town and that this is a lie. Whenever these "coincidences" line up, it is almost always a lie (that being Pyro saying Laarz is Ninja and then Fred confirming it to prove his credibility). I have used this lie many times and it has always been...a lie.
Most likely scenario: Mafia killed the vigilante last night (who also got off a kill) and are stealing his role.
If this doesn't sound right, flub is still all over the place. I would rather lynch erik because even though he had to be coddled into doing so, flub did vote asrrin. It was by no means clean though and will switch to him if I must.
Too convienent = for a reason in mafia games almost all the time.
Shoulda done the day kill if you were the vigi. I even suggested this yesterday. Much much MUCH MUCH more helpful to the town. Laarz was the obvious choice during the day phase. Gotta be anti-town.
Vote: FredOfErik
Him or flub today is what I would enjoy seeing happen.
Erik convinently killed Laarz after a role cop said what his role was.
He says Laarz was mafia to gain credibility that he is a pro town vigilante
He said he didnt have enough information for a day kill, which would have proven everything he said, but with the exact same amount of information he goes ahead with the nk
Get rid of him. I have very strong feeling he is anti-town and that this is a lie. Whenever these "coincidences" line up, it is almost always a lie (that being Pyro saying Laarz is Ninja and then Fred confirming it to prove his credibility). I have used this lie many times and it has always been...a lie.
Most likely scenario: Mafia killed the vigilante last night (who also got off a kill) and are stealing his role.
If this doesn't sound right, flub is still all over the place. I would rather lynch erik because even though he had to be coddled into doing so, flub did vote asrrin. It was by no means clean though and will switch to him if I must.
Too convienent = for a reason in mafia games almost all the time.
Shoulda done the day kill if you were the vigi. I even suggested this yesterday. Much much MUCH MUCH more helpful to the town. Laarz was the obvious choice during the day phase. Gotta be anti-town.
Re: City Mafia Game Thread
oh and Gwahir:
I selected and was awardedd Rolecop. N1 I investigated Asrrin who was vanilla. N1 my role was stolen (this is also why I think it feasible that the vigi could get a kill off and be killed in the same night. Same with Pyro and Laarz). I was then the role theif. I stole pyros role N2 who is hider which is currently what I am
oh and Gwahir:
I selected and was awardedd Rolecop. N1 I investigated Asrrin who was vanilla. N1 my role was stolen (this is also why I think it feasible that the vigi could get a kill off and be killed in the same night. Same with Pyro and Laarz). I was then the role theif. I stole pyros role N2 who is hider which is currently what I am
FredOfErik
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Re: City Mafia Game Thread
Well, I can't tell you much more than I have already done.
The reason I didn't use it in the day phase was that IF I chose the wrong target it would be known to town that I killed a town player - which could possibly get me lynched at well, which would mean I "killed" off two town players. Yes, yes, I know "this is what scum would say" but this was my line of thinking. In hindsight I can see that I may have made a mistake, but yes.. Either you believe me or you don't.
And to a different topic (BA) will you please stop using the fact that I didn't vote for asrrin (your first post of the day) as an argument. I already thoroughly explained to Pyro yesterday why I didn't - and unless you believe I would really lie to all you guys about my RL, it was a very legitimate reason. In my book at least. Also, if I was scum, I would most likely jumped on asrrin's wagon if I had the oppurtunity as it was pretty obvious he was going down.
But well. Whether or not you guys believe my claim is not in my hands. The best I can bring into this scum hunting is, that I'm relatively certain that either Gwaihir or RE are the SK. Since the SK is bulletproof and therefore can only be killed by mafia or the bomb (i guess?), he needs to be lynched as soon as possible. IMO it could be anyone of them - RE with a claim that cannot be tested unless he is lynched and gwaihir who won't claim anything before everybody's role is out in the open. Both seems like very vague claims to me. I ask again: any thoughts on this?
Well, I can't tell you much more than I have already done.
The reason I didn't use it in the day phase was that IF I chose the wrong target it would be known to town that I killed a town player - which could possibly get me lynched at well, which would mean I "killed" off two town players. Yes, yes, I know "this is what scum would say" but this was my line of thinking. In hindsight I can see that I may have made a mistake, but yes.. Either you believe me or you don't.
And to a different topic (BA) will you please stop using the fact that I didn't vote for asrrin (your first post of the day) as an argument. I already thoroughly explained to Pyro yesterday why I didn't - and unless you believe I would really lie to all you guys about my RL, it was a very legitimate reason. In my book at least. Also, if I was scum, I would most likely jumped on asrrin's wagon if I had the oppurtunity as it was pretty obvious he was going down.
But well. Whether or not you guys believe my claim is not in my hands. The best I can bring into this scum hunting is, that I'm relatively certain that either Gwaihir or RE are the SK. Since the SK is bulletproof and therefore can only be killed by mafia or the bomb (i guess?), he needs to be lynched as soon as possible. IMO it could be anyone of them - RE with a claim that cannot be tested unless he is lynched and gwaihir who won't claim anything before everybody's role is out in the open. Both seems like very vague claims to me. I ask again: any thoughts on this?
Pyrotechnician1
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Re: City Mafia Game Thread
Right now, I think I rather see flubb hang rather than FOE. I see it this way...if and by if I mean IF everyone was truthful about their roleclaims then that means we have a SK and a roleblocker/jailkeeper unaccounted for (assuming TC was actually blocked). Only two people have yet to claim, Gwaihir and Flubb. Flubb has been inconsistent throughout the game and it seems he only voted for Asriin when he was pushed into it. Gwaihir hasn't really given us anything to suspect of as of yet except for not wanting to claim. FOE (or whoever actually was the Vig) if he is anti-town has obviously already used his one shot so we don't have to be worried about that now. I see the most likely scenario being:
Flubb - Roleblocker/Jailkeeper Mafia
Gwaihir - SK
(This scenario is still iffy because any of the other unconfirmed claims or vanilla claims could actually be interchanged into this)
I'm of course going to wait to see how FOE defends himself before making a vote because that could definately sway my thought process.
Right now, I think I rather see flubb hang rather than FOE. I see it this way...if and by if I mean IF everyone was truthful about their roleclaims then that means we have a SK and a roleblocker/jailkeeper unaccounted for (assuming TC was actually blocked). Only two people have yet to claim, Gwaihir and Flubb. Flubb has been inconsistent throughout the game and it seems he only voted for Asriin when he was pushed into it. Gwaihir hasn't really given us anything to suspect of as of yet except for not wanting to claim. FOE (or whoever actually was the Vig) if he is anti-town has obviously already used his one shot so we don't have to be worried about that now. I see the most likely scenario being:
Flubb - Roleblocker/Jailkeeper Mafia
Gwaihir - SK
(This scenario is still iffy because any of the other unconfirmed claims or vanilla claims could actually be interchanged into this)
I'm of course going to wait to see how FOE defends himself before making a vote because that could definately sway my thought process.
