Blade Fury Assasin (Ver 1.10)

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Ritslev said:
Nali, that is a great honor... I do ask though that you give me a week to make changes/edit...

ATM I'm recovering froma shoulder operation, due to three broken ligaments, so my typing skills are bad. My attention span due to medication/pain releif is very short...

Thank you.
SonOfRa

Sorry to hear that, SonOfRa. Hope you get well soon. :thumbsup: Go ahead and take your time updating the guide, there's no urgent rush. Post in this thread or PM me once you're done.
 
PsychoticEwok1 said:
... "New runeword?"

its is called "Duress."...

That is definately the armor for the Furysin.. I have though at this time not seen it ... nor have I been able to find anyone whom has it on Bnet..

I'd love to hear though from someone whom has this armor, about their experiences with it.. and what part of the they play (Single player? Bnet? Ladder etc)

---EDIT---

I went ahead and got Um rune.. got 3 socket armor... and got the other runes... I tested the runeword and.....


IT WORKS!!! ...

Note .. GUIDE ARMOR:... DURESS!

Many thanks to PSY-EWOK

This is what I got my hands on.. :
SHAEL - UM - THUL
Duress Dusk Shroud
Defence 1138
+171% Enhanced Defense
40% faster hit Recovery
+15% Fire Resistance
+45% Cold Resistance
+15% Lightning Resistance
+15% Poison Resistance
+20% Enhanced Damage
+37-133 Cold Damage
+15% Crushing Blow
+33% Open Wounds
-20% Slower Stamina Drain
+15% Maximum Durability
That is just awesome
 
I was just about to say, this would be great for the Furysin.

As soon as I get my hands on Stormlash, I'm converting my assassin from a trapper to a fury-sin. I won't have all the venom points, but everything else will be there, and I'll have all the proper gear.

Nice.
 
WOW THATS GREAT!!!

I had an awesome night of trading last night too. Got a Tals ammy... Now I want to trade that for something my BFASSY needs...
 
Sorry to hear about your injury but you seemed happy enough about the new armour today when we spoke :lol:
Its good to hear that this guide is going into the compodeum (sorry about spelling if its wrong :lol: ). get well soon and talk l8rz

:howdy:

raph
 
So what's a good AR to shoot for? I've been a trapper for so long, I've never had to worry about it. If I go the dexterity route, how much am I going to need to be effective in Hell?
 
Ritslev said:
That is definately the armor for the Furysin.. I have though at this time not seen it ... nor have I been able to find anyone whom has it on Bnet..

I'd love to hear though from someone whom has this armor, about their experiences with it.. and what part of the they play (Single player? Bnet? Ladder etc)

---EDIT---

I went ahead and got Um rune.. got 3 socket armor... and got the other runes... I tested the runeword and.....


IT WORKS!!! ...

Note .. GUIDE ARMOR:... DURESS!

Many thanks to PSY-EWOK

This is what I got my hands on.. :
SHAEL - UM - THUL
Duress Dusk Shroud
Defence 1138
+171% Enhanced Defense
40% faster hit Recovery
+15% Fire Resistance
+45% Cold Resistance
+15% Lightning Resistance
+15% Poison Resistance
+20% Enhanced Damage
+37-133 Cold Damage
+15% Crushing Blow
+33% Open Wounds
-20% Slower Stamina Drain
+15% Maximum Durability
That is just awesome

yay im in a guide! it has 10% less CB and not monster flee, but with a 6 frame atk that doesnt matter much. plus the OW and ED and cold damage and resist more than make up for it.

sucks about the shoulder, ritslev

u know, its actually much harder to get a rattlecage than you think. everyone throws em out. those that dont throw em out either cant find em or are so poor they want your arm and leg for em. and i get bored to tears MFing normal baal.

thank you bnet for making the best character ever even better.

i was looking at some item sites (the d2 tomb of knowledge) and i looked up stormlash - it doesnt have static! instead it has %chance to cast tornado. is this a typo on the site or is stormlash actually... not as good as i thought? or does it have tornado AND static?

USEAST SC NL
BeaverCheese
 
Man, I'd love to have a Duress armor on my Furysin to replace her 2 Perf Diamonded Spirit Forge (and later Leviathan). I guess it balances out, though - No SP Duress, no Bnet Beta Crescent Moon.

If I'm going for a Titan build (to maximize damage), is there anything in particular I should worry about? My AR seems to be fine right now (75% to hit bosses in Act 1 NM), although I'm worried about it down the road.

How much of a difference would, say, a Steel Small Charm make in Hell?
 
Just wanted to thank Ritslev for an awesome guide and a very cool character. Shakeitlikeasin is up to level 77 already waiting to use her stormlash (socketed with a jah, of course). I either had or traded for all the items rather easily. I don't think you can say that about many other characters as the higher level gear is sometimes hard to come by. When I got rattlecage, the person just about laughed at me. I know I've found it and sold it about 20 times in the past! I really like playing this character, it's a lot of fun. I have the runes for duress and crescent moon but have yet to find the appropriate items (anyone want to hook me up? :) A question about crescent moon though, is it better than my stormlash?
 
ShakeitLikeasin said:
... A question about crescent moon though, is it better than my stormlash?...
There are several issues here.

Stormlash Pros over Cresent Moon.
-Better chance to cast static.
-Crushing blow %.
-High Elemental damage.

Cresent Moon Pros over Stormlash.
-Higher physical damage.
-Chance to cast Chain Lightning.
-Doesn't need Jah for Ignore Target Defence (which makes it cheaper)
-Open Wounds %
-Lightning Resistance lowered by -35% on hits.

When you put on Stormlash you will see the damage. On your character screen, and generally when you use it. When you use Cresent Moon the damage is a bit more hidden. Let me explain that.

With Stormlash any ol' charms are good charms... that is if they have high elemental damage (except Poison). Stormlash is in itself the damage dealer here.

With Cresent Moon the -35% enemy resistance is what really does the trick. That is if you have at your disposal a LOT of elemental Lightning damage charms. You won't be able to see the real damage you do, cause there is no way to configure the lowered resistances effect. But you can though see it when charging into a crowd.

So which do I prefer. Well Crushing Blow is just too vital to me... so I went for Stormlash and I swear by Stormlash. I got the luck to also have my hands on Facets so that further enhance both weapons. I still have my Cryptic Sword which I also use form time to time.. it's just too damn good to throw away/trade.

I hope this helps.
 
Ritslev said:
There are several issues here.

So which do I prefer. Well Crushing Blow is just too vital to me... so I went for Stormlash and I swear by Stormlash. I got the luck to also have my hands on Facets so that further enhance both weapons. I still have my Cryptic Sword which I also use form time to time.. it's just too damn good to throw away/trade.

I hope this helps.

Thanks for the in depth analysis, that was exactly what I was hoping for. I just haven't been able to find (or trade) for an etherial cryptic sword, so I had to find out if it was really worth it. You mentioned facets though, how do you put a facet in crescent moon (already socketed) or in a stormlash already socketed with a jah?
 
ShakeitLikeasin said:
.....You mentioned facets though, how do you put a facet in crescent moon (already socketed) or in a stormlash already socketed with a jah?..

I don't.

Facets goes into Helmet or Shield (If your resistances allows you to ignore the need for Um rune). Perhaps Armor (If you use Rattlecage)
 
AR problems

I'm having major AR problems with my furysin. First and foremost, I am a perfectionist. I can't just put some random number of points in dexterity to raise AR a little. I either have to do enough for max block (bad idea) or none at all, and find other ways to solve AR. I don't like the Jah solution, as not working against bosses or champions is not good enough for me. I'm considering using an Angelic combo, but I don't want to drop the other jewelry. I just thought of a rather strange solution though, and I think it might work. How would it be if I got a Blessed Aim mercenary? Would the extra AR be enough to hit well against everything? I think it might well be. I can get an ethereal Doom weapon for him too, so he can also have Holy Freeze. Do you think that the Blessed Aim merc would do well enough for AR that I wouldn't have to change my equipment, Jah my weapon, or add any points to dexterity? Thanks for input.
 
Griffin said:
...I can't just put some random number of points in dexterity to raise AR a little...
There is nothing random about choosing the Dexterity according to the weapon you intend on using. I have personally opted to get Vitality 300 and with what I feel is enough Life, so I'll pump the rest of all my stats into Dexterity. This means that I have Dexterity 75 Currently without items.. I'm level 87, so that will be an ok boost.
Griffin said:
..I either have to do enough for max block (bad idea) or none at all, and find other ways to solve AR. I don't like the Jah solution, as not working against bosses or champions is not good enough for me...
Jah doesn't work against bosses, which is why the Demon Limb on your switch is vital. Demon Limb or Angelic Combo. Either way you will get the same Attack Rating. 2 k I beleive. (I could be slightly wrong here but I'm pretty sure here). Personally I prefer to use Demon Limb, it's fast and easy. It lasts for close to 10 minutes. It cost 10k gold to repair per charge.. or Ort + chipped gem in the cube to recharge fully. It's a cheap solution to the AR problem and it works. While yes Angelic Rings and Amulet is a nice Combo.. then look at what you'll be loosing and gaining. So.

Removing Highlord + Raven + Carrion Wind and putting on Angelic Rings + Amulet :
Loose Cannot Be Frozen.
Loose 20 Dex
Loose 240 Attack Rating
Loose 55% Poison Resistance
Loose 9% Life Leech
Loose +1 skills
Loose 35% deadly strike
Loose 1-30 lightning damage (1-22 damage)
Loose 35% lightning resistance
Loose 15-45 Cold damage (11-33 damage)
Loose 20% Cold absorb
Gain 95 Life.
Gain 2 k Attack Rating
Gain 3 light radius (LOL)
Gain 10 Dex.

Take a look at this list and .. then ask yourself .. is it really worth it? In my book definatly not.
Griffin said:
... How would it be if I got a Blessed Aim mercenary? Would the extra AR be enough to hit well against everything? I think it might well be. I can get an ethereal Doom weapon for him too, so he can also have Holy Freeze....
The Blessed Aim Merc will give you plenty of AR, you won't have to add/remove/change equipment, problem is.. what about when he dies? Then you're sold. Utterly sold. I tried it and found that having to run to town to revive Merc every other minute was a pain in the *beep*
The Merc is not a good solution, it is not a viable one simply cause when he's dead.. then so is your attack rating.
 
Ritslev said:
I don't.

Facets goes into Helmet or Shield (If your resistances allows you to ignore the need for Um rune). Perhaps Armor (If you use Rattlecage)

Ok, so I finally got a dusk shroud and made Duress, the armor rocks, I can now melee in nm no problem; hell, of course, is another story. I'm actually using a botd zerker axe I made for the time being until I can use my stormlash. I socketed my tiamat's with an um and have max resists in hell, so that only leaves my helm. What would you recommend socketing it with, a 5/5 lightning rainbow facet?
 
ShakeitLikeasin said:
Ok, so I finally got a dusk shroud and made Duress, the armor rocks, I can now melee in nm no problem; hell, of course, is another story. I'm actually using a botd zerker axe I made for the time being until I can use my stormlash. I socketed my tiamat's with an um and have max resists in hell, so that only leaves my helm. What would you recommend socketing it with, a 5/5 lightning rainbow facet?
5/5 poison facet - main elemental damage for furysin comes from poison. Lvl23 venom give you ~400 poison damage every 0.4s. While lighting could "apperently" net you higher damage in reality due to low min damage and fact that apperently 33% monsters in hell have lit resist or immune poison damage more efficient killer
P.S. about AR - *sign* ppl use tools that given to assasin wisely... COS = -40-95% to enemy deffence, use on a switch weapons that give you -% per him or -value per hit to deffence
 
ShakeitLikeasin said:
..What would you recommend socketing it with, a 5/5 lightning rainbow facet?...
You will hear people say : Poison Facet... due to Venom and so on. But consinder this ...
Poison Charms aren't worth having so with an inventory of Psn Charms you'll have 1 Facet...
I urge you strongly to choose a Lightning Facet... my reasons are :
-Stormlash has high Lightning Elemental Damage
-Stormlash and Cresent Moon has Static and is more effective with a Light Facet.
-Inventory of Lighting Charms is 'way' better than Psn charms

These are jsut three of my many reasons, but in my book these three are all that is needed.
 
Tanatus said:
..5/5 poison facet - main elemental damage for furysin comes from poison. Lvl23 venom give you ~400 poison damage every 0.4s.
First...
Venom gives : 400 damage.. is misleading it only gives : 300.. why? Cause Blade Fury has a 3/4 penalty.
Tanatus said:
.. While lighting could "apperently" net you higher damage in reality due to low min damage and fact that apperently 33% monsters in hell have lit resist or immune poison damage more efficient killer
Lightning on avarage does give more damage. Let me demonstrate.
Poison : 290 over 10 secs : 29 over 1 sec : 14 over .4 sec. : Avarage : 14
Lightning: 1-41 each hit : Avarage : 20
Then you mention the 33% of monsters with Lightning Immunities..
And my answer to that is that this is also incorrect. It's closer to 15%, you're focusing on Act 5 which in my book is wrong. We could do the same caculation with Poison and Act 2.
I don't know where your caculations/test come from and they could be good, but I have just had a very different experience.
Tanatus said:
..P.S. about AR - *sign* ppl use tools that given to assasin wisely... COS = -40-95% to enemy deffence, use on a switch weapons that give you -% per him or -value per hit to deffence
Demon Limb... a -enemy defence is effecient but with a group of monsters you'll have to keep switching back and forth.. not pratical.

These are my thouhgts at least... We all differ at times.. and I'm sure it works either way :)
 
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