23 Runeword Search Thread

To me it is discouraging to find that after so many months of Season Two, not one new runeword has been discovered. I do have a question though....Why isn't anyone doing this mathematically?

Afterall, the greatest number of sockets an item can have is 6. There are 33 runes...there is a mathematical equation for figuring out the number of possible combinations a sequence can have. Why isn't anyone using this approach?

Take a helmet with two sockets, calculate the number of possible combinations and then plot them out. After doing so, try each of them. Do so for each item type and for every possible number of sockets. I can assure you this will be quite a large number...especially when you get into items with 6 sockets...but it can be done.

The only issue then becomes the availability of runes, since the new rune words will work (presumably) on ladder. It then becomes clear why using clues to guide the search for runewords is the preferred method for runeword discovery. Mathematically you have a LONG way to go.
 
Euro-Crash said:
To me it is discouraging to find that after so many months of Season Two, not one new runeword has been discovered. I do have a question though....Why isn't anyone doing this mathematically?

Afterall, the greatest number of sockets an item can have is 6. There are 33 runes...there is a mathematical equation for figuring out the number of possible combinations a sequence can have. Why isn't anyone using this approach?

Take a helmet with two sockets, calculate the number of possible combinations and then plot them out. After doing so, try each of them. Do so for each item type and for every possible number of sockets. I can assure you this will be quite a large number...especially when you get into items with 6 sockets...but it can be done.

The only issue then becomes the availability of runes, since the new rune words will work (presumably) on ladder. It then becomes clear why using clues to guide the search for runewords is the preferred method for runeword discovery. Mathematically you have a LONG way to go.
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Euro-Crash, That is exactly what we have been doing for 4 months now. Have you read along? :scratch:
We are all working with a spreadsheet kept up by Wathombe so that we can track what has been tested. This chart is updated and linked constantly so that we don't waste time and runes by double testing.
(I think my avatar says it all.)
 
InsaneFarmer said:
what do you suggest? that we raid blizzard headquarters dressed as d2 players and tickle the runeword guy till he tells us?
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Perhaps...you guys are making headway, but you have a long way to go before you have exhausted every possible rune combination in every possible socket configuration in every possible item (item type). The numbers for this are astronomically high.

Using hints or clues found in or outside the realm is probably adviseable...since you would not be as random as an exhaustive mathematical exploration of runewords would be.

I think that there has got to be some source of information that has not yet been tapped. It seems you have tried the runewords from previous versions of the game, acronyms, clues from WoW...and ideas stemming from the theme of Season II (When Worlds Collide...).

Do not be discouraged...I just think that somehow, someway, a more guided exploration of potential runeword recipes should be concocted. As for me, I would have given up long ago...thank you for your efforts. I am sure at some point you will reap the rewards of your labor.
 
someone... i believe it was Lexilatonis or yea... actually i don't really remember who. but they gave a pretty good argument as to something. it was that. Blizzard's release of new runewords after the 1.10 patch had names all based on the 1.07 list. meaning that it's likely that all of these new runewords will be based on that list. while that's still a pretty big list. it does somewhat limit us to certain acronyms. oh and of the few listed runewords that had acronyms that didn't seem to quite fit the name. i figured out one.

Enigma

Jah Ith Ber

spells JIB

in an old english dictionary i found at a used book store JIB means : to move side to side extremely quickly.

the meaning isn't exact but it could explain the +1 to teleport..
this isn't rather good for us. because Enigma + JIB + teleport have no direct relations even in concept except that it shows that it's possible that the runewords will have acronyms based on what the runeword does rather than relating directly to the runeword name itself.

wow i think i chewed that whole paragraph up but if nobody understands i'll repost this
 
Remlin said:
Euro-Crash, That is exactly what we have been doing for 4 months now. Have you read along? :scratch:
We are all working with a spreadsheet kept up by Wathombe so that we can track what has been tested. This chart is updated and linked constantly so that we don't waste time and runes by double testing.
(I think my avatar says it all.)
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I have been periodically checking your progress. I do understand that you have been using a mathematical approach, however I see vacilation from using this method and using clues from WoW. I think if you were going to use the mathematical approach you would have to adhere to it regardless of the level of frustration it causes. I admit...I have no patience for this sort of venture. You are indeed more patient than I.
 
in BoTD

W is V

for Wheeze

how about

WoW

Vex (ohm, ort) Vex

haha now that's a real long shot but you know
it says "W"hen "W"orlds "C"ollide"
i see "W"orld of "W"ar "C"raft in there

but then again i am insane
 
Morning, all.

Updated: wathombe's runeword spreadsheet

All: I'm hoping to have a little time when the office slows down at the end of the workday for a "weekly" update. Check back around 7:00 PST.

Sokar: If you haven't checked it out already, try this site, in which the more intelligent half of America (don't flame me, it's documented) apologizes to the rest of the world for the people who elected Bush. As for the "dragon aspect" idea, it's a good one, but how do we divine the formulae to go with it? That was my problem at the time you suggested it.

GTA: Any way you can verify that post with Kenny? According to the e-mail, if true, James K. has "heard" that a couple have been discovered, which is a vague statement, at best.

Ax: I'm happy to add a blank-blank-Tir helm page to the spreadsheet tonight if you want to send me your results...

freakin: I double-checked and didn't have any e-mail from you. Both my addys start with wathombe and end with net actually:
wathombe -at- comcast -dot- net
wathombe -at- alumni -dot- utexas -dot- net
Try again if you want to test, maybe my spam filter is overzealous?
I hope your'e working out and not callin' out fools in their own neighborhood.
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If you're referring to GTA:SA, yup, it's a blast. I just unlocked the desert and Las Venturas, so I'm close to finishing the story missions. After that it's just finding all the jumps, rampages, packages, side missions, et cetera, which is far less addictive. I can hop back into D2 more, at least until Battle for Middle-Earth comes out in December. :rolleyes:
 
InsaneFarmer said:
in BoTD

W is V

for Wheeze

how about

WoW

Vex (ohm, ort) Vex

haha now that's a real long shot but you know
it says "W"hen "W"orlds "C"ollide"
i see "W"orld of "W"ar "C"raft in there

but then again i am insane
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Hey, I love that. Six Vexes, one Ohm and one Cham to test these all... what do you have left Wathombe ? And did you try SolLumBer or SolUmBer already ?

PS: in addition to the acronyms part, VexVexCham sounds good when you pronounce it :p
 
Ya, I mailed ya to ur comcast address, via ur post on page 100 (I think). And of course I meant GTA, I wouldn't want ya to get shot "fo' reals", lol.
 
Diabolic Apom said:
Hey, I love that. Six Vexes, one Ohm and one Cham to test these all... what do you have left Wathombe ? And did you try SolLumBer or SolUmBer already ?
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Here are the leftovers I have (or had, haven't checked that character since I got back, were there any ruststorms while I was gone?):

Um
2 x Ist
2 x Gul
Lo
2 x Sur
Ber

No Vexes, although we could cube for one. I haven't tested either iteration of "slumber" yet, mainly because I don't think I have a Sol. If I can reconnect with tlaloc, I think he was hanging onto one for that express purpose. More later...
 
Hmm, we may have the runes to test "VOV" soon, but in what item?...
Any suggestions? Any item more suited for the first test? :scratch:
 
Cherokee said:
I'm alive -- just been real busy with a sick family and a 2nd job... I'll have more time in the near future... I hope...
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Sorry to hear this, Cher0kee - Hope everyone gets well soon. 2nd job? Hell, my first is bad enough. Hope to see you again soon. If you need any help with muling/testing/refreshing/etc. just let me know.

Also, and belatedly, - Welcome back wathombe. Glad to hear the gang fights were virtual. It's a daunting task keeping track of everything, and I am grateful for your efforts. Been pretty demoralizing after Nov 2 here as well...

DudSpud
 
Uuughhh....

For those of you I was rushing, my ISP dropped me for about an hour. What incredibly bad timing as well, just before killing Duriel :(

Happy to finish things up for each of you as we run into each other on bnet.

See you then.
 
Failed:

AMN+RAL+DOL+ELD+NEF+TAL=great sword
EL+EL=sacred globe

I'll try all the ELD variants but I'll need a lot more RALs given I'm also trying to craft. If you can trade for low runes but can't get SOLs or SHAELs try for RALs and I'll get all 63 attempts in soon.
 
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