[2006] Obsession Tournament [by Wolron]

@wolron: Here's another contradiction:


Wolron said:
Obviously, if the reference ends up on all items, there is no problem. The only decision is: What if you need item 2 or 3 to get a new mod that is not mentioned on all of the items?

The answer is..... that's OK just equip all of the set items and thereby activate that obsession item. However, you cannot claim a 5 point bonus for your equipment if one of those set items is needed and it does not mention one of your obsessions. That means that you will want to save those other regular items that did have the proper references in ATMA so that you can legitimately claim your bonus at the end of the difficulty level.

To put it simply, you can equip set items as long as the item has an obsession reference, or that item is needed to activate an obsession reference on another set item.

Now, that may not be as obsessive as not allowing it, but from what I have experienced, by the time it becomes an issue for someone, they will likely not want to use any of the gear anyway. One advantage to this may be having something to equip in NM. Those exceptional items are going to be hard to find and a few set items may be very comforting. Therefore, hold on to all of your set items in hopes of filling out the set and giving yourself something to wear in NM.

I would be interested in seeing if this helps anyone. If you find that you can take advantage of this, give us a post with details on the set items you use.

Here you say you cannot claim a bonus, and in your last post you say you can. as for the part where you say that I was wrong, I actually meant to say that, but I guess my english just isn't good enough to make you understand :)
Anyway, could you clarefy the bonus claiming part?
~moiselvus
 
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A1 Complete

The evil queen has fallen. She didn't pose any threat to Obsessive and his merc. He just tanked Andy while his rouge fired away. A few rejuvs later and she was down. As usual, she didn't drop anythng of use except for a Saphire.

A2 should prove to be fun. First order of business is to drop the rouge and pick up a blessed aim merc.:prop:

Str : 43
Dex : 20
Vit : 97
Energy : 15

Life : 314

Total Score: 22
10 WPs: 10
6 Quests: 12

Code:
[highlight]ALIVE[/highlight]
[U]Score Character      Class       Forum Name        Level   Act    WP      [/U]
112   Clobber        Barbarian   Wolron             48     A1 NM  Cold Plains
109   Mercury        Amazon      Mursilis           48     A1 NM  Rogue Camp
108   Paul           Druid       Naab               46     A1 NM  Rogue Encampment
99   Nerullan       Necromancer Sir Lister of Smeg 47     A1 NM  Rogue Encampment
83   DeltaO         Amazon      Wolron             35     A5     Harrogath
76   OneTrackSkunk  Necro       Skunkbelly         33     A5     Frig. Highlands
73   BrassMonkey    Paladin     waflob             34     A5     Harrogath
72   mad_hatter     Amazon      skoolbus           34     A5     Bloody Foothills
53   HoldYourColour Assassin    Tartanasia         28     A3     Kursat Docks
53   PosadnutaAma   Amazon      Kugel              20     A3     Kurast Docks
50   VitaForTheWeak Amazon      Zarfen             20     A3     Flayer dungeon
45   No_Sushi       Sorceress   Grisu              28     A3     Kurast
38   Bearly_Skilled Druid       Saucy              24     A2     Canyon 
33   Karmesha       Amazon      moiselvus          25     A2     arcane sanctuary
27   Ned            Paladin     'poops             23     A2     Dry Hills/Hall of Dead
25   Conny          Paladin     Docturnal          19     A2     Sewers lvl 2
22   Obsession      Paladin     Ilshad             19     A2     Lut Gholein
17   HiLife         Amazon      zatlaren           19     A1     Inner Cloister
14   LiliVon        Sorceress   TrubbaNot          17     A1     Outer Cloister
11   Obsessive      Assassin    OneFromBeyond      15     A1     Black Marsh
  1   Clean_Hands    Assassin    JoeBruce            1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Infraction     Paladin     PsychoPath          1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Undertow       Necro       Spatacula           1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   TiredArms      Barbarian   Gabriel74           1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Zkeletal       Necromancer Blindandstoopid     1     A1     Rogue Camp

[highlight]DEAD/RETIRED[/highlight]
[U]Score Character      Class       Forum Name        Level   Act    WP      [/U]
59   OCD            Paladin     pwangsta           30     A3     Durance L2
32   FoulKrack      Amazon      Saucy              20     A2     Lost City
23   Ungar          Barbarian   pwangsta           19     A2     Sewers L2
22   Scorn          Druid       Spatacula          20     A2     Lut Gholein
19   ObsessDeeds    Amazon      EJB                19     A1     Cat LvL 2
14   StaticBabe     Sorceress   Quickdeath         17     A1     Outer Cloister

[highlight]OBSESSIONS[/highlight]
[U]Character      C.Type    Element   Attribute  Skill 1      Skill 2     Skill 3[/U]
Bearly_Skilled Druid     Lightning Strength   Wearbear 
BrassMonkey    Paladin   Lightning Vitality   Zeal
Clean_Hands    Assassin  Lightning Vitality   Claw Mastery
Clobber        Barb      Fire      Vitality   Mace Mast    Berzerk     ?  
Conny          Paladin   Cold      Vitality   Holy Freeze
DeltaO         Amazon    Cold      Vitality   Jab          Straf       Valkyrie    
FoulKrack      Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Magic Arrow   
HiLife         Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Valkyrie
HoldYourColour Assassin  Cold      Vitality   BOS          Blade Fury  ?   
Infraction     Paladin   Fire      Vitality   Charge
Karmesha       Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Valkyrie     -           - 
LiliVon        Sorceress Fire      Vitality   Blaze        -           -
Mad_hatter     Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Strafe       -           -
Mercury        Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Plague Jav   Valkyrie
Ned            Paladin   Fire      Strength   Charge
Nerullan       Necro     Poison    Vitality   Raise Skel   ?           ?
No_Sushi       Sorceress Cold      Vitality   Firewall     Frozen Orb
ObsessDeeds    Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Multishot    -           -
Obsessive      Assassin  Lightning Vitality   Dragon Talon ?           ?
Obsession      Paladin   Lightning Vitality   Zeal         Fant        ?
OCD            Paladin   Lightning Vitality   Holy Shock   ?           ?
OneTrackSkunk  Necro     Poison    Dexterity  Skeletal Mage
Paul           Druid     Lightning Vitality   Oak Sage
Poladnutama    Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Magic Arrow  Plague Javelin
Scorn          Druid     Fire      Strength   Werewolf
StaticBabe     Sorceress Lightning Vitality   Static Field
Tiredarms      Barbarian Lightning Strength   Double Swing
Undertow       Necro     Fire      Vitality   Iron Maiden
Unger          Barbarian Lightning Strength   Sword Mastery
VitaForTheWea  Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Magic Arrow  Valkyrie    -
Zkeletal       Necro     Poison    Vitality   Raise Skeleton
 
@ilshad: your character isn't named obsessive, but obsession, at least according to the table and your first post in the thread, however in that same post you also start calling him obsessive, so what's it?
note: the character named obsessive is an assasin from OneFromBeyond, so I guess you don't have a choice...
~moiselvus
 
Oops

Oops. Sorry bout that. I started this char a little before i posted in the very beginning. At first he was called Obsessive. After i posted i realized that there was already a toon named that so i used Atma to change it to Obsession. Sorry for the confusion all.

Just a minor update. OBSESSION made it all the way through the dessert and collected all the staff pieces without a hitch. The blessed aim merc made it very easy to hit anything and everything. I think i will keep him until the end. Currently just begining the Arcane Sanc. Recently, i have been choosing the right path to the summoner on the first try. Lets hope that this streak continues.

Str : 48
Dex : 20
Vit : 117
Energy : 15

Life : 386

Total Score: 33
17 WPs: 17
8 Quests: 16

Code:
[highlight]ALIVE[/highlight]
[U]Score Character      Class       Forum Name        Level   Act    WP      [/U]
112   Clobber        Barbarian   Wolron             48     A1 NM  Cold Plains
109   Mercury        Amazon      Mursilis           48     A1 NM  Rogue Camp
108   Paul           Druid       Naab               46     A1 NM  Rogue Encampment
 99   Nerullan       Necromancer Sir Lister of Smeg 47     A1 NM  Rogue Encampment
 83   DeltaO         Amazon      Wolron             35     A5     Harrogath
 76   OneTrackSkunk  Necro       Skunkbelly         33     A5     Frig. Highlands
 73   BrassMonkey    Paladin     waflob             34     A5     Harrogath
 72   mad_hatter     Amazon      skoolbus           34     A5     Bloody Foothills 
 53   HoldYourColour Assassin    Tartanasia         28     A3     Kursat Docks
 53   PosadnutaAma   Amazon      Kugel              20     A3     Kurast Docks
 50   VitaForTheWeak Amazon      Zarfen             20     A3     Flayer dungeon 
 45   No_Sushi       Sorceress   Grisu              28     A3     Kurast
 38   Bearly_Skilled Druid       Saucy              24     A2     Canyon  
 33   Karmesha       Amazon      moiselvus          25     A2     arcane sanctuary
 33   Obsession      Paladin     Ilshad             23     A2     Arcane Sanctuary
 27   Ned            Paladin     'poops             23     A2     Dry Hills/Hall of Dead
 25   Conny          Paladin     Docturnal          19     A2     Sewers lvl 2
 17   HiLife         Amazon      zatlaren           19     A1     Inner Cloister
 14   LiliVon        Sorceress   TrubbaNot          17     A1     Outer Cloister
 11   Obsessive      Assassin    OneFromBeyond      15     A1     Black Marsh
  1   Clean_Hands    Assassin    JoeBruce            1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Infraction     Paladin     PsychoPath          1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Undertow       Necro       Spatacula           1     A1     Rogue Camp 
  1   TiredArms      Barbarian   Gabriel74           1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Zkeletal       Necromancer Blindandstoopid     1     A1     Rogue Camp

[highlight]DEAD/RETIRED[/highlight]
[U]Score Character      Class       Forum Name        Level   Act    WP      [/U]
 59   OCD            Paladin     pwangsta           30     A3     Durance L2
 32   FoulKrack      Amazon      Saucy              20     A2     Lost City
 23   Ungar          Barbarian   pwangsta           19     A2     Sewers L2 
 22   Scorn          Druid       Spatacula          20     A2     Lut Gholein
 19   ObsessDeeds    Amazon      EJB                19     A1     Cat LvL 2
 14   StaticBabe     Sorceress   Quickdeath         17     A1     Outer Cloister

[highlight]OBSESSIONS[/highlight]
[U]Character      C.Type    Element   Attribute  Skill 1      Skill 2     Skill 3[/U]
Bearly_Skilled Druid     Lightning Strength   Wearbear  
BrassMonkey    Paladin   Lightning Vitality   Zeal
Clean_Hands    Assassin  Lightning Vitality   Claw Mastery 
Clobber        Barb      Fire      Vitality   Mace Mast    Berzerk     ?   
Conny          Paladin   Cold      Vitality   Holy Freeze
DeltaO         Amazon    Cold      Vitality   Jab          Straf       Valkyrie     
FoulKrack      Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Magic Arrow    
HiLife         Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Valkyrie
HoldYourColour Assassin  Cold      Vitality   BOS          Blade Fury  ?    
Infraction     Paladin   Fire      Vitality   Charge
Karmesha       Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Valkyrie     -           -  
LiliVon        Sorceress Fire      Vitality   Blaze        -           -
Mad_hatter     Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Strafe       -           -
Mercury        Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Plague Jav   Valkyrie
Ned            Paladin   Fire      Strength   Charge
Nerullan       Necro     Poison    Vitality   Raise Skel   ?           ?
No_Sushi       Sorceress Cold      Vitality   Firewall     Frozen Orb
ObsessDeeds    Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Multishot    -           -
Obsessive      Assassin  Lightning Vitality   Dragon Talon ?           ?
Obsession      Paladin   Lightning Vitality   Zeal         Fant        ?
OCD            Paladin   Lightning Vitality   Holy Shock   ?           ? 
OneTrackSkunk  Necro     Poison    Dexterity  Skeletal Mage
Paul           Druid     Lightning Vitality   Oak Sage
Poladnutama    Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Magic Arrow  Plague Javelin
Scorn          Druid     Fire      Strength   Werewolf
StaticBabe     Sorceress Lightning Vitality   Static Field
Tiredarms      Barbarian Lightning Strength   Double Swing
Undertow       Necro     Fire      Vitality   Iron Maiden
Unger          Barbarian Lightning Strength   Sword Mastery
VitaForTheWea  Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Magic Arrow  Valkyrie    -
Zkeletal       Necro     Poison    Vitality   Raise Skeleton
 
After my last update, I did continue playing Nerullan a bit, I think until rescuing Cain, today I continued and finished act I nightmare. He did have an NDE in the catacombs due to me failing to see a goatman who promptly blocked the entrance for my army, I did manage to get a townportal out somehow and stayed alive. I really missed not being able to hotkey the townportal. Andariel took ages, and I had to travel back to the jail a couple of times to raise a new army, since I quickly ran out of bodies in the catacombs. It was a good thing I did not do full clears so I could still kill things and use their bodies. As you might have guessed, Andariel was done at players 8, and not having decrepify was what made it though. For that matter, all was done at players 8, except the tower cellar level 5, which did yield two runes from the Countess, eth and tir iirc.
After starting nightmare shabbily dressed (savage partizan for the merc, jewelry, rare war spear, stealth armour, safety belt, blood crescent and cleglaw's claw for Nerullan), Nerullan and his merc are now fully dressed, although it's a different merc right now, a mighty merc, who showed his valour by already gaining all the five levels he was behind upon hiring in the Lut Gholein sewers.
Nerullan's last actions were gaining a level and gambling, when my computer suddenly decided that I'd played too much Diablo already and crashed the game and/or wine. Luckily I could still open my character, at least in atma (I still have to try in the game, but after resaving in atma it should be okay), to see that I did not lose the hotspurs I had just gambled. Anyway, I'll call it a day, and if I counted right, and no one posted simultaneously, I even reach the top of the list in spite of not having maxed a single obsession yet.

Two more gear questions:
It was said before that you could use set item A with set item B if at least one of them got an obsession by that equipping, now I do have two items of a set, of which item A already has an obsession affix and item B not, however, by equipping item B I get another obsession affix on item A, fulfilling the above requirement. My guess is however that this is not allowed, since item A already was equippable and item B gains no obsession affix, am I correct?

What's the verdict on circlets and coronets? I assume circlets and coronets are normal, tiaras exceptional, and diadems elite, since the diadem is an upgrade of the tiara which is an upgrade of the coronet. On the other hand, with level requirements, it makes more sense to regard the coronet already as exceptional and both the tiara and the diadem as elite.

To finish of, the mandatory points:
Waypoints: 5*9+3+2=50
Quests: 5*6+3+1=34
Normally dressed: 5
Total: 123 points

Code:
[highlight]ALIVE[/highlight]
[U]Score Character      Class       Forum Name        Level   Act    WP      [/U]
123   Nerullan       Necromancer Sir Lister of Smeg 53     A2 NM  Sewers Level 2
112   Clobber        Barbarian   Wolron             48     A1 NM  Cold Plains
109   Mercury        Amazon      Mursilis           48     A1 NM  Rogue Camp
108   Paul           Druid       Naab               46     A1 NM  Rogue Encampment
 83   DeltaO         Amazon      Wolron             35     A5     Harrogath
 76   OneTrackSkunk  Necro       Skunkbelly         33     A5     Frig. Highlands
 73   BrassMonkey    Paladin     waflob             34     A5     Harrogath
 72   mad_hatter     Amazon      skoolbus           34     A5     Bloody Foothills 
 53   HoldYourColour Assassin    Tartanasia         28     A3     Kursat Docks
 53   PosadnutaAma   Amazon      Kugel              20     A3     Kurast Docks
 50   VitaForTheWeak Amazon      Zarfen             20     A3     Flayer dungeon 
 45   No_Sushi       Sorceress   Grisu              28     A3     Kurast
 38   Bearly_Skilled Druid       Saucy              24     A2     Canyon  
 33   Karmesha       Amazon      moiselvus          25     A2     arcane sanctuary
 33   Obsession      Paladin     Ilshad             23     A2     Arcane Sanctuary
 27   Ned            Paladin     'poops             23     A2     Dry Hills/Hall of Dead
 25   Conny          Paladin     Docturnal          19     A2     Sewers lvl 2
 17   HiLife         Amazon      zatlaren           19     A1     Inner Cloister
 14   LiliVon        Sorceress   TrubbaNot          17     A1     Outer Cloister
 11   Obsessive      Assassin    OneFromBeyond      15     A1     Black Marsh
  1   Clean_Hands    Assassin    JoeBruce            1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Infraction     Paladin     PsychoPath          1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Undertow       Necro       Spatacula           1     A1     Rogue Camp 
  1   TiredArms      Barbarian   Gabriel74           1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Zkeletal       Necromancer Blindandstoopid     1     A1     Rogue Camp

[highlight]DEAD/RETIRED[/highlight]
[U]Score Character      Class       Forum Name        Level   Act    WP      [/U]
 59   OCD            Paladin     pwangsta           30     A3     Durance L2
 32   FoulKrack      Amazon      Saucy              20     A2     Lost City
 23   Ungar          Barbarian   pwangsta           19     A2     Sewers L2 
 22   Scorn          Druid       Spatacula          20     A2     Lut Gholein
 19   ObsessDeeds    Amazon      EJB                19     A1     Cat LvL 2
 14   StaticBabe     Sorceress   Quickdeath         17     A1     Outer Cloister

[highlight]OBSESSIONS[/highlight]
[U]Character      C.Type    Element   Attribute  Skill 1      Skill 2     Skill 3[/U]
Bearly_Skilled Druid     Lightning Strength   Wearbear  
BrassMonkey    Paladin   Lightning Vitality   Zeal
Clean_Hands    Assassin  Lightning Vitality   Claw Mastery 
Clobber        Barb      Fire      Vitality   Mace Mast    Berzerk     ?   
Conny          Paladin   Cold      Vitality   Holy Freeze
DeltaO         Amazon    Cold      Vitality   Jab          Straf       Valkyrie     
FoulKrack      Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Magic Arrow    
HiLife         Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Valkyrie
HoldYourColour Assassin  Cold      Vitality   BOS          Blade Fury  ?    
Infraction     Paladin   Fire      Vitality   Charge
Karmesha       Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Valkyrie     -           -  
LiliVon        Sorceress Fire      Vitality   Blaze        -           -
Mad_hatter     Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Strafe       -           -
Mercury        Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Plague Jav   Valkyrie
Ned            Paladin   Fire      Strength   Charge
Nerullan       Necro     Poison    Vitality   Raise Skel   ?           ?
No_Sushi       Sorceress Cold      Vitality   Firewall     Frozen Orb
ObsessDeeds    Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Multishot    -           -
Obsessive      Assassin  Lightning Vitality   Dragon Talon ?           ?
Obsession      Paladin   Lightning Vitality   Zeal         Fant        ?
OCD            Paladin   Lightning Vitality   Holy Shock   ?           ? 
OneTrackSkunk  Necro     Poison    Dexterity  Skeletal Mage
Paul           Druid     Lightning Vitality   Oak Sage
Poladnutama    Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Magic Arrow  Plague Javelin
Scorn          Druid     Fire      Strength   Werewolf
StaticBabe     Sorceress Lightning Vitality   Static Field
Tiredarms      Barbarian Lightning Strength   Double Swing
Undertow       Necro     Fire      Vitality   Iron Maiden
Unger          Barbarian Lightning Strength   Sword Mastery
VitaForTheWea  Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Magic Arrow  Valkyrie    -
Zkeletal       Necro     Poison    Vitality   Raise Skeleton

Edit: I must add I will have to move again through a small part of the Rocky Waste thanks to the crash (I was gambling in town but had already cleared a bit), but I should not have to kill too much again, since I will go counterclockwise this time.
 
Well, Act III was really easy to do, although those ranged Flayers really annoyed me...it took quite a long time to hunt down each and every one.
So far I cleared all areas and killed all bosses in p8, no problems occured and I had a few good drops, too (although not from Mephisto).
Found a rare Orb with +2 to my obsession skill, MDR-3, +18 Mana (to name the most important mods). Esp. nice are the gloves, which grant me 22%MF, 24% Fire Resistance, 14% Cold Resistance and 76% More Gold.

I'm currently Level32 and need 17 more levels to max out my first obsession. Don't know if I'll manage to do that until NM. I think about making a "Leaf" Staff, I think I can afford to lose a Tir and a Ral rune :) Would grant me +3 to all Fire Skills (i.e. to FW) and to Warmth...very nice indeed, because Warmth is no synergy and thus has not even one point.

Planning to run Act IV on Friday.

Total score: 67 (made the Top10!!;)
31 WPs: 31
18 quests solved: 36


Code:
[highlight]ALIVE[/highlight]
[U]Score Character      Class       Forum Name        Level   Act    WP      [/U]
123   Nerullan       Necromancer Sir Lister of Smeg 53     A2 NM  Sewers Level 2
112   Clobber        Barbarian   Wolron             48     A1 NM  Cold Plains
109   Mercury        Amazon      Mursilis           48     A1 NM  Rogue Camp
108   Paul           Druid       Naab               46     A1 NM  Rogue Encampment
 83   DeltaO         Amazon      Wolron             35     A5     Harrogath
 76   OneTrackSkunk  Necro       Skunkbelly         33     A5     Frig. Highlands
 73   BrassMonkey    Paladin     waflob             34     A5     Harrogath
 72   mad_hatter     Amazon      skoolbus           34     A5     Bloody Foothills 
 67   No_Sushi       Sorceress   Grisu              32     A4     Pandemonium Fortress 
 53   HoldYourColour Assassin    Tartanasia         28     A3     Kursat Docks
 53   PosadnutaAma   Amazon      Kugel              20     A3     Kurast Docks
 50   VitaForTheWeak Amazon      Zarfen             20     A3     Flayer dungeon 
 38   Bearly_Skilled Druid       Saucy              24     A2     Canyon  
 33   Karmesha       Amazon      moiselvus          25     A2     arcane sanctuary
 33   Obsession      Paladin     Ilshad             23     A2     Arcane Sanctuary
 27   Ned            Paladin     'poops             23     A2     Dry Hills/Hall of Dead
 25   Conny          Paladin     Docturnal          19     A2     Sewers lvl 2
 17   HiLife         Amazon      zatlaren           19     A1     Inner Cloister
 14   LiliVon        Sorceress   TrubbaNot          17     A1     Outer Cloister
 11   Obsessive      Assassin    OneFromBeyond      15     A1     Black Marsh
  1   Clean_Hands    Assassin    JoeBruce            1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Infraction     Paladin     PsychoPath          1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Undertow       Necro       Spatacula           1     A1     Rogue Camp 
  1   TiredArms      Barbarian   Gabriel74           1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Zkeletal       Necromancer Blindandstoopid     1     A1     Rogue Camp

[highlight]DEAD/RETIRED[/highlight]
[U]Score Character      Class       Forum Name        Level   Act    WP      [/U]
 59   OCD            Paladin     pwangsta           30     A3     Durance L2
 32   FoulKrack      Amazon      Saucy              20     A2     Lost City
 23   Ungar          Barbarian   pwangsta           19     A2     Sewers L2 
 22   Scorn          Druid       Spatacula          20     A2     Lut Gholein
 19   ObsessDeeds    Amazon      EJB                19     A1     Cat LvL 2
 14   StaticBabe     Sorceress   Quickdeath         17     A1     Outer Cloister

[highlight]OBSESSIONS[/highlight]
[U]Character      C.Type    Element   Attribute  Skill 1      Skill 2     Skill 3[/U]
Bearly_Skilled Druid     Lightning Strength   Wearbear  
BrassMonkey    Paladin   Lightning Vitality   Zeal
Clean_Hands    Assassin  Lightning Vitality   Claw Mastery 
Clobber        Barb      Fire      Vitality   Mace Mast    Berzerk     ?   
Conny          Paladin   Cold      Vitality   Holy Freeze
DeltaO         Amazon    Cold      Vitality   Jab          Straf       Valkyrie     
FoulKrack      Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Magic Arrow    
HiLife         Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Valkyrie
HoldYourColour Assassin  Cold      Vitality   BOS          Blade Fury  ?    
Infraction     Paladin   Fire      Vitality   Charge
Karmesha       Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Valkyrie     -           -  
LiliVon        Sorceress Fire      Vitality   Blaze        -           -
Mad_hatter     Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Strafe       -           -
Mercury        Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Plague Jav   Valkyrie
Ned            Paladin   Fire      Strength   Charge
Nerullan       Necro     Poison    Vitality   Raise Skel   ?           ?
No_Sushi       Sorceress Cold      Vitality   Firewall     Frozen Orb
ObsessDeeds    Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Multishot    -           -
Obsessive      Assassin  Lightning Vitality   Dragon Talon ?           ?
Obsession      Paladin   Lightning Vitality   Zeal         Fant        ?
OCD            Paladin   Lightning Vitality   Holy Shock   ?           ? 
OneTrackSkunk  Necro     Poison    Dexterity  Skeletal Mage
Paul           Druid     Lightning Vitality   Oak Sage
Poladnutama    Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Magic Arrow  Plague Javelin
Scorn          Druid     Fire      Strength   Werewolf
StaticBabe     Sorceress Lightning Vitality   Static Field
Tiredarms      Barbarian Lightning Strength   Double Swing
Undertow       Necro     Fire      Vitality   Iron Maiden
Unger          Barbarian Lightning Strength   Sword Mastery
VitaForTheWea  Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Magic Arrow  Valkyrie    -
Zkeletal       Necro     Poison    Vitality   Raise Skeleton
 
Im getting bored of this character TBO. Ive been in act 5 for a fair bit now. Full lcears just aint for me when your using a very weak boring character.

Total score: 67 (made the Top10!!;)
34 WPs: 34
24 quests solved: 48
2 skill obbsesions maxed: 20
Total: 102


Code:
[highlight]ALIVE[/highlight]
[U]Score Character      Class       Forum Name        Level   Act    WP      [/U]
123   Nerullan       Necromancer Sir Lister of Smeg 53     A2 NM  Sewers Level 2
112   Clobber        Barbarian   Wolron             48     A1 NM  Cold Plains
109   Mercury        Amazon      Mursilis           48     A1 NM  Rogue Camp
108   Paul           Druid       Naab               46     A1 NM  Rogue Encampment
102  HoldYourColour Assassin    Tartanasia         41     A5     Pindle 
 83   DeltaO         Amazon      Wolron             35     A5     Harrogath
 76   OneTrackSkunk  Necro       Skunkbelly         33     A5     Frig. Highlands
 73   BrassMonkey    Paladin     waflob             34     A5     Harrogath
 72   mad_hatter     Amazon      skoolbus           34     A5     Bloody Foothills 
 67   No_Sushi       Sorceress   Grisu              32     A4     Pandemonium Fortress 
102  HoldYourColour Assassin    Tartanasia         41     A5     Pindle
 53   PosadnutaAma   Amazon      Kugel              20     A3     Kurast Docks
 50   VitaForTheWeak Amazon      Zarfen             20     A3     Flayer dungeon 
 38   Bearly_Skilled Druid       Saucy              24     A2     Canyon  
 33   Karmesha       Amazon      moiselvus          25     A2     arcane sanctuary
 33   Obsession      Paladin     Ilshad             23     A2     Arcane Sanctuary
 27   Ned            Paladin     'poops             23     A2     Dry Hills/Hall of Dead
 25   Conny          Paladin     Docturnal          19     A2     Sewers lvl 2
 17   HiLife         Amazon      zatlaren           19     A1     Inner Cloister
 14   LiliVon        Sorceress   TrubbaNot          17     A1     Outer Cloister
 11   Obsessive      Assassin    OneFromBeyond      15     A1     Black Marsh
  1   Clean_Hands    Assassin    JoeBruce            1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Infraction     Paladin     PsychoPath          1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Undertow       Necro       Spatacula           1     A1     Rogue Camp 
  1   TiredArms      Barbarian   Gabriel74           1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Zkeletal       Necromancer Blindandstoopid     1     A1     Rogue Camp

[highlight]DEAD/RETIRED[/highlight]
[U]Score Character      Class       Forum Name        Level   Act    WP      [/U]
 59   OCD            Paladin     pwangsta           30     A3     Durance L2
 32   FoulKrack      Amazon      Saucy              20     A2     Lost City
 23   Ungar          Barbarian   pwangsta           19     A2     Sewers L2 
 22   Scorn          Druid       Spatacula          20     A2     Lut Gholein
 19   ObsessDeeds    Amazon      EJB                19     A1     Cat LvL 2
 14   StaticBabe     Sorceress   Quickdeath         17     A1     Outer Cloister

[highlight]OBSESSIONS[/highlight]
[U]Character      C.Type    Element   Attribute  Skill 1      Skill 2     Skill 3[/U]
Bearly_Skilled Druid     Lightning Strength   Wearbear  
BrassMonkey    Paladin   Lightning Vitality   Zeal
Clean_Hands    Assassin  Lightning Vitality   Claw Mastery 
Clobber        Barb      Fire      Vitality   Mace Mast    Berzerk     ?   
Conny          Paladin   Cold      Vitality   Holy Freeze
DeltaO         Amazon    Cold      Vitality   Jab          Straf       Valkyrie     
FoulKrack      Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Magic Arrow    
HiLife         Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Valkyrie
HoldYourColour Assassin  Cold      Vitality   BOS          Blade Fury  ?    
Infraction     Paladin   Fire      Vitality   Charge
Karmesha       Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Valkyrie     -           -  
LiliVon        Sorceress Fire      Vitality   Blaze        -           -
Mad_hatter     Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Strafe       -           -
Mercury        Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Plague Jav   Valkyrie
Ned            Paladin   Fire      Strength   Charge
Nerullan       Necro     Poison    Vitality   Raise Skel   ?           ?
No_Sushi       Sorceress Cold      Vitality   Firewall     Frozen Orb
ObsessDeeds    Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Multishot    -           -
Obsessive      Assassin  Lightning Vitality   Dragon Talon ?           ?
Obsession      Paladin   Lightning Vitality   Zeal         Fant        ?
OCD            Paladin   Lightning Vitality   Holy Shock   ?           ? 
OneTrackSkunk  Necro     Poison    Dexterity  Skeletal Mage
Paul           Druid     Lightning Vitality   Oak Sage
Poladnutama    Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Magic Arrow  Plague Javelin
Scorn          Druid     Fire      Strength   Werewolf
StaticBabe     Sorceress Lightning Vitality   Static Field
Tiredarms      Barbarian Lightning Strength   Double Swing
Undertow       Necro     Fire      Vitality   Iron Maiden
Unger          Barbarian Lightning Strength   Sword Mastery
VitaForTheWea  Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Magic Arrow  Valkyrie    -
Zkeletal       Necro     Poison    Vitality   Raise Skeleton
 
Undertow just cleared Act 1 with no problems at all. Still looking for some useful equipment, and I have been unlucky in gambling for rares... oh well I guess. I have only one charm that is pretty weak, GC adds 1-3 fire damage. No real NDE lately, a couple of times my life was dropping pretty quick do to carelessness. I am moving slowly, but trying to stay persistant hoping for some nice drops soon. Going to have to be careful with elemental attacks because resists are still kind of weak right now.
Code:
[highlight]ALIVE[/highlight]
[U]Score Character      Class       Forum Name        Level   Act    WP      [/U]
123   Nerullan       Necromancer Sir Lister of Smeg 53     A2 NM  Sewers Level 2
112   Clobber        Barbarian   Wolron             48     A1 NM  Cold Plains
109   Mercury        Amazon      Mursilis           48     A1 NM  Rogue Camp
108   Paul           Druid       Naab               46     A1 NM  Rogue Encampment
102  HoldYourColour  Assassin    Tartanasia         41     A5     Pindle 
 83   DeltaO         Amazon      Wolron             35     A5     Harrogath
 76   OneTrackSkunk  Necro       Skunkbelly         33     A5     Frig. Highlands
 73   BrassMonkey    Paladin     waflob             34     A5     Harrogath
 72   mad_hatter     Amazon      skoolbus           34     A5     Bloody Foothills 
 67   No_Sushi       Sorceress   Grisu              32     A4     Pandemonium Fortress 
 53   PosadnutaAma   Amazon      Kugel              20     A3     Kurast Docks
 50   VitaForTheWeak Amazon      Zarfen             20     A3     Flayer dungeon 
 38   Bearly_Skilled Druid       Saucy              24     A2     Canyon  
 33   Karmesha       Amazon      moiselvus          25     A2     arcane sanctuary
 33   Obsession      Paladin     Ilshad             23     A2     Arcane Sanctuary
 27   Ned            Paladin     'poops             23     A2     Dry Hills/Hall of Dead
 25   Conny          Paladin     Docturnal          19     A2     Sewers lvl 2
 22   Undertow       Necro       Spatacula          19     A2     Lut Gholein 
 17   HiLife         Amazon      zatlaren           19     A1     Inner Cloister
 14   LiliVon        Sorceress   TrubbaNot          17     A1     Outer Cloister
 11   Obsessive      Assassin    OneFromBeyond      15     A1     Black Marsh
  1   Clean_Hands    Assassin    JoeBruce            1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Infraction     Paladin     PsychoPath          1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   TiredArms      Barbarian   Gabriel74           1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Zkeletal       Necromancer Blindandstoopid     1     A1     Rogue Camp

[highlight]DEAD/RETIRED[/highlight]
[U]Score Character      Class       Forum Name        Level   Act    WP      [/U]
 59   OCD            Paladin     pwangsta           30     A3     Durance L2
 32   FoulKrack      Amazon      Saucy              20     A2     Lost City
 23   Ungar          Barbarian   pwangsta           19     A2     Sewers L2 
 22   Scorn          Druid       Spatacula          20     A2     Lut Gholein
 19   ObsessDeeds    Amazon      EJB                19     A1     Cat LvL 2
 14   StaticBabe     Sorceress   Quickdeath         17     A1     Outer Cloister

[highlight]OBSESSIONS[/highlight]
[U]Character      C.Type    Element   Attribute  Skill 1      Skill 2     Skill 3[/U]
Bearly_Skilled Druid     Lightning Strength   Wearbear  
BrassMonkey    Paladin   Lightning Vitality   Zeal
Clean_Hands    Assassin  Lightning Vitality   Claw Mastery 
Clobber        Barb      Fire      Vitality   Mace Mast    Berzerk     ?   
Conny          Paladin   Cold      Vitality   Holy Freeze
DeltaO         Amazon    Cold      Vitality   Jab          Straf       Valkyrie     
FoulKrack      Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Magic Arrow    
HiLife         Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Valkyrie
HoldYourColour Assassin  Cold      Vitality   BOS          Blade Fury  ?    
Infraction     Paladin   Fire      Vitality   Charge
Karmesha       Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Valkyrie     -           -  
LiliVon        Sorceress Fire      Vitality   Blaze        -           -
Mad_hatter     Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Strafe       -           -
Mercury        Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Plague Jav   Valkyrie
Ned            Paladin   Fire      Strength   Charge
Nerullan       Necro     Poison    Vitality   Raise Skel   ?           ?
No_Sushi       Sorceress Cold      Vitality   Firewall     Frozen Orb
ObsessDeeds    Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Multishot    -           -
Obsessive      Assassin  Lightning Vitality   Dragon Talon ?           ?
Obsession      Paladin   Lightning Vitality   Zeal         Fant        ?
OCD            Paladin   Lightning Vitality   Holy Shock   ?           ? 
OneTrackSkunk  Necro     Poison    Dexterity  Skeletal Mage
Paul           Druid     Lightning Vitality   Oak Sage
Poladnutama    Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Magic Arrow  Plague Javelin
Scorn          Druid     Fire      Strength   Werewolf
StaticBabe     Sorceress Lightning Vitality   Static Field
Tiredarms      Barbarian Lightning Strength   Double Swing
Undertow       Necro     Fire      Vitality   Iron Maiden
Unger          Barbarian Lightning Strength   Sword Mastery
VitaForTheWea  Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Magic Arrow  Valkyrie    -
Zkeletal       Necro     Poison    Vitality   Raise Skeleton

Points
10 WPs
6 Q x2=12
Total =22
 
moiselvus said:
@wolron: Here's another contradiction:



Here you say you cannot claim a bonus, and in your last post you say you can. as for the part where you say that I was wrong, I actually meant to say that, but I guess my english just isn't good enough to make you understand :)
Anyway, could you clarefy the bonus claiming part?
~moiselvus
That settles it! I am going to spend the rest of this evening going through all the posts and collecting all of the magnificent decisions that I have made (and then immediately forgotten about). I apologize for the mistake. I will stand by the original decision. You cannot claim the five points when using a set item whose only purpose is to allow another set item to be used.
 
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Sir Lister of Smeg said:
obsession yet.

Two more gear questions:
(1) It was said before that you could use set item A with set item B if at least one of them got an obsession by that equipping, now I do have two items of a set, of which item A already has an obsession affix and item B not, however, by equipping item B I get another obsession affix on item A, fulfilling the above requirement. My guess is however that this is not allowed, since item A already was equippable and item B gains no obsession affix, am I correct?

(2) What's the verdict on circlets and coronets? I assume circlets and coronets are normal, tiaras exceptional, and diadems elite, since the diadem is an upgrade of the tiara which is an upgrade of the coronet. On the other hand, with level requirements, it makes more sense to regard the coronet already as exceptional and both the tiara and the diadem as elite.
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(1) As I understand your situation, item A has an obsession referenced all by itself. Now, you find item B and equipping it will give item A an additional obsession improvement. Go ahead and equip item B if you want.

Your obsessions go beyond just allowing you to wear items. You are really obsessed! If you can further enhance your obsession by using item B, then use it.

(2) I have upgraded circlets and found that a tiara was the result. Therefore, I look at the tiara as an exceptional item. I have never tried to upgrade a corontet or a tiara, but based on your statement that a coronet upgrades to a tiara and a tiara upgrades to a diadem, I go with your first assessment:

Circlet - Normal
Coronet - Normal
Tiara - Exceptional
Diadem - Elite
 
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After a long day of fighting to finish Normal Mercury does what any tired female would do, go shopping 😁 This was actually required as most of her equipment was sold when moving into Nightmare, including her javalins. Since Plague Javalin doesn't work without the Javalin part, gambling at Gheed was required. Over and over and over and over and over again. Finally a Tangerine War Javalin was obtained and she could venture forth, going as far as saving Cain before settling down for the night to swap stories with the rogues.

Score
43 Waypoints: 43
30 Quests: 60
1 Obsession maxed (Plague Javalin): 10
All Equipment slots used at end of Normal: 5
Total Score is 118

Code:
[highlight]ALIVE[/highlight]
[U]Score Character      Class       Forum Name        Level   Act    WP      [/U]
123   Nerullan       Necromancer Sir Lister of Smeg 53     A2 NM  Sewers Level 2
118   Mercury        Amazon      Mursilis           49     A1 NM  Dark Wood
112   Clobber        Barbarian   Wolron             48     A1 NM  Cold Plains
108   Paul           Druid       Naab               46     A1 NM  Rogue Encampment
102   HoldYourColour Assassin    Tartanasia         41     A5     Pindle
83   DeltaO         Amazon      Wolron             35     A5     Harrogath
76   OneTrackSkunk  Necro       Skunkbelly         33     A5     Frig. Highlands
73   BrassMonkey    Paladin     waflob             34     A5     Harrogath
72   mad_hatter     Amazon      skoolbus           34     A5     Bloody Foothills
67   No_Sushi       Sorceress   Grisu              32     A4     Pandemonium Fortress
53   PosadnutaAma   Amazon      Kugel              20     A3     Kurast Docks
50   VitaForTheWeak Amazon      Zarfen             20     A3     Flayer dungeon
38   Bearly_Skilled Druid       Saucy              24     A2     Canyon 
33   Karmesha       Amazon      moiselvus          25     A2     arcane sanctuary
33   Obsession      Paladin     Ilshad             23     A2     Arcane Sanctuary
27   Ned            Paladin     'poops             23     A2     Dry Hills/Hall of Dead
25   Conny          Paladin     Docturnal          19     A2     Sewers lvl 2
22   Undertow       Necro       Spatacula          19     A2     Lut Gholein
17   HiLife         Amazon      zatlaren           19     A1     Inner Cloister
14   LiliVon        Sorceress   TrubbaNot          17     A1     Outer Cloister
11   Obsessive      Assassin    OneFromBeyond      15     A1     Black Marsh
  1   Clean_Hands    Assassin    JoeBruce            1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Infraction     Paladin     PsychoPath          1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   TiredArms      Barbarian   Gabriel74           1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Zkeletal       Necromancer Blindandstoopid     1     A1     Rogue Camp

[highlight]DEAD/RETIRED[/highlight]
[U]Score Character      Class       Forum Name        Level   Act    WP      [/U]
59   OCD            Paladin     pwangsta           30     A3     Durance L2
32   FoulKrack      Amazon      Saucy              20     A2     Lost City
23   Ungar          Barbarian   pwangsta           19     A2     Sewers L2
22   Scorn          Druid       Spatacula          20     A2     Lut Gholein
19   ObsessDeeds    Amazon      EJB                19     A1     Cat LvL 2
14   StaticBabe     Sorceress   Quickdeath         17     A1     Outer Cloister

[highlight]OBSESSIONS[/highlight]
[U]Character      C.Type    Element   Attribute  Skill 1      Skill 2     Skill 3[/U]
Bearly_Skilled Druid     Lightning Strength   Wearbear 
BrassMonkey    Paladin   Lightning Vitality   Zeal
Clean_Hands    Assassin  Lightning Vitality   Claw Mastery
Clobber        Barb      Fire      Vitality   Mace Mast    Berzerk     ?  
Conny          Paladin   Cold      Vitality   Holy Freeze
DeltaO         Amazon    Cold      Vitality   Jab          Straf       Valkyrie    
FoulKrack      Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Magic Arrow   
HiLife         Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Valkyrie
HoldYourColour Assassin  Cold      Vitality   BOS          Blade Fury  ?   
Infraction     Paladin   Fire      Vitality   Charge
Karmesha       Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Valkyrie     -           - 
LiliVon        Sorceress Fire      Vitality   Blaze        -           -
Mad_hatter     Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Strafe       -           -
Mercury        Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Plague Jav   Valkyrie
Ned            Paladin   Fire      Strength   Charge
Nerullan       Necro     Poison    Vitality   Raise Skel   ?           ?
No_Sushi       Sorceress Cold      Vitality   Firewall     Frozen Orb
ObsessDeeds    Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Multishot    -           -
Obsessive      Assassin  Lightning Vitality   Dragon Talon ?           ?
Obsession      Paladin   Lightning Vitality   Zeal         Fant        ?
OCD            Paladin   Lightning Vitality   Holy Shock   ?           ?
OneTrackSkunk  Necro     Poison    Dexterity  Skeletal Mage
Paul           Druid     Lightning Vitality   Oak Sage
Poladnutama    Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Magic Arrow  Plague Javelin
Scorn          Druid     Fire      Strength   Werewolf
StaticBabe     Sorceress Lightning Vitality   Static Field
Tiredarms      Barbarian Lightning Strength   Double Swing
Undertow       Necro     Fire      Vitality   Iron Maiden
Unger          Barbarian Lightning Strength   Sword Mastery
VitaForTheWea  Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Magic Arrow  Valkyrie    -
Zkeletal       Necro     Poison    Vitality   Raise Skeleton
 
A2 Complete

The end of A2 was about what was expected. Sadly, the arcane sanc streak was busted. I did, however, get it right on the third try instead of having to go all 4 ways.

Duriel was a little tougher than i expected though. Of course this is the first time i have faced him with a melee character so i really didnt know what to expect. Luckily, i set the player setting down to 1. His HF aura just about did me in. Got zeal locked and almost didnt make it to the portal in time. After about five trips to town to resurect my moron, the oversized bug finally fell. What did i get for my efforts? 2 flawed gems and a scroll of town portal! Oh well, hopfully Meph will be kinder to me, if i can get past all those pesky flayers.

A2 did give me a few grailers: a crushflange and a Hsarus' iron stay.

Str: 49
Dex: 20
Vit: 121
Eng: 15(25)

Life: 400


Score
19 Waypoints: 19
12 Quests: 24
Total Score is 43

Code:
[highlight]ALIVE[/highlight]
[U]Score Character      Class       Forum Name        Level   Act    WP      [/U]
123   Nerullan       Necromancer Sir Lister of Smeg 53     A2 NM  Sewers Level 2
118   Mercury        Amazon      Mursilis           49     A1 NM  Dark Wood
112   Clobber        Barbarian   Wolron             48     A1 NM  Cold Plains
108   Paul           Druid       Naab               46     A1 NM  Rogue Encampment
102   HoldYourColour Assassin    Tartanasia         41     A5     Pindle
83   DeltaO         Amazon      Wolron             35     A5     Harrogath
76   OneTrackSkunk  Necro       Skunkbelly         33     A5     Frig. Highlands
73   BrassMonkey    Paladin     waflob             34     A5     Harrogath
72   mad_hatter     Amazon      skoolbus           34     A5     Bloody Foothills
67   No_Sushi       Sorceress   Grisu              32     A4     Pandemonium Fortress
53   PosadnutaAma   Amazon      Kugel              20     A3     Kurast Docks
50   VitaForTheWeak Amazon      Zarfen             20     A3     Flayer dungeon
43   Obsession      Paladin     Ilshad             25     A3     Kurast Docks
38   Bearly_Skilled Druid       Saucy              24     A2     Canyon 
33   Karmesha       Amazon      moiselvus          25     A2     arcane sanctuary
27   Ned            Paladin     'poops             23     A2     Dry Hills/Hall of Dead
25   Conny          Paladin     Docturnal          19     A2     Sewers lvl 2
22   Undertow       Necro       Spatacula          19     A2     Lut Gholein
17   HiLife         Amazon      zatlaren           19     A1     Inner Cloister
14   LiliVon        Sorceress   TrubbaNot          17     A1     Outer Cloister
11   Obsessive      Assassin    OneFromBeyond      15     A1     Black Marsh
  1   Clean_Hands    Assassin    JoeBruce            1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Infraction     Paladin     PsychoPath          1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   TiredArms      Barbarian   Gabriel74           1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Zkeletal       Necromancer Blindandstoopid     1     A1     Rogue Camp

[highlight]DEAD/RETIRED[/highlight]
[U]Score Character      Class       Forum Name        Level   Act    WP      [/U]
59   OCD            Paladin     pwangsta           30     A3     Durance L2
32   FoulKrack      Amazon      Saucy              20     A2     Lost City
23   Ungar          Barbarian   pwangsta           19     A2     Sewers L2
22   Scorn          Druid       Spatacula          20     A2     Lut Gholein
19   ObsessDeeds    Amazon      EJB                19     A1     Cat LvL 2
14   StaticBabe     Sorceress   Quickdeath         17     A1     Outer Cloister

[highlight]OBSESSIONS[/highlight]
[U]Character      C.Type    Element   Attribute  Skill 1      Skill 2     Skill 3[/U]
Bearly_Skilled Druid     Lightning Strength   Wearbear 
BrassMonkey    Paladin   Lightning Vitality   Zeal
Clean_Hands    Assassin  Lightning Vitality   Claw Mastery
Clobber        Barb      Fire      Vitality   Mace Mast    Berzerk     ?  
Conny          Paladin   Cold      Vitality   Holy Freeze
DeltaO         Amazon    Cold      Vitality   Jab          Straf       Valkyrie    
FoulKrack      Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Magic Arrow   
HiLife         Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Valkyrie
HoldYourColour Assassin  Cold      Vitality   BOS          Blade Fury  ?   
Infraction     Paladin   Fire      Vitality   Charge
Karmesha       Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Valkyrie     -           - 
LiliVon        Sorceress Fire      Vitality   Blaze        -           -
Mad_hatter     Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Strafe       -           -
Mercury        Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Plague Jav   Valkyrie
Ned            Paladin   Fire      Strength   Charge
Nerullan       Necro     Poison    Vitality   Raise Skel   ?           ?
No_Sushi       Sorceress Cold      Vitality   Firewall     Frozen Orb
ObsessDeeds    Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Multishot    -           -
Obsessive      Assassin  Lightning Vitality   Dragon Talon ?           ?
Obsession      Paladin   Lightning Vitality   Zeal         Fant        ?
OCD            Paladin   Lightning Vitality   Holy Shock   ?           ?
OneTrackSkunk  Necro     Poison    Dexterity  Skeletal Mage
Paul           Druid     Lightning Vitality   Oak Sage
Poladnutama    Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Magic Arrow  Plague Javelin
Scorn          Druid     Fire      Strength   Werewolf
StaticBabe     Sorceress Lightning Vitality   Static Field
Tiredarms      Barbarian Lightning Strength   Double Swing
Undertow       Necro     Fire      Vitality   Iron Maiden
Unger          Barbarian Lightning Strength   Sword Mastery
VitaForTheWea  Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Magic Arrow  Valkyrie    -
Zkeletal       Necro     Poison    Vitality   Raise Skeleton
 
Just a quick update: haven't played in a while, but I conquered the Tower (yay an El!) and got the Outer Cloister WP. Still no armor or boots (and I am a kicker!)

Obsessive
Level: 16
Str: 34
Dex: 21
Vit: 80
Eng: 25

Life: 263

Score
6 Waypoints: 6
4 Quests: 8
Total Score is 14

Code:
[highlight]ALIVE[/highlight]
[U]Score Character      Class       Forum Name        Level   Act    WP      [/U]
123   Nerullan       Necromancer Sir Lister of Smeg 53     A2 NM  Sewers Level 2
118   Mercury        Amazon      Mursilis           49     A1 NM  Dark Wood
112   Clobber        Barbarian   Wolron             48     A1 NM  Cold Plains
108   Paul           Druid       Naab               46     A1 NM  Rogue Encampment
102   HoldYourColour Assassin    Tartanasia         41     A5     Pindle
83   DeltaO         Amazon      Wolron             35     A5     Harrogath
76   OneTrackSkunk  Necro       Skunkbelly         33     A5     Frig. Highlands
73   BrassMonkey    Paladin     waflob             34     A5     Harrogath
72   mad_hatter     Amazon      skoolbus           34     A5     Bloody Foothills
67   No_Sushi       Sorceress   Grisu              32     A4     Pandemonium Fortress
53   PosadnutaAma   Amazon      Kugel              20     A3     Kurast Docks
50   VitaForTheWeak Amazon      Zarfen             20     A3     Flayer dungeon
43   Obsession      Paladin     Ilshad             25     A3     Kurast Docks
38   Bearly_Skilled Druid       Saucy              24     A2     Canyon 
33   Karmesha       Amazon      moiselvus          25     A2     arcane sanctuary
27   Ned            Paladin     'poops             23     A2     Dry Hills/Hall of Dead
25   Conny          Paladin     Docturnal          19     A2     Sewers lvl 2
22   Undertow       Necro       Spatacula          19     A2     Lut Gholein
17   HiLife         Amazon      zatlaren           19     A1     Inner Cloister
14   LiliVon        Sorceress   TrubbaNot          17     A1     Outer Cloister
14   Obsessive      Assassin    OneFromBeyond      16     A1     Outer Cloister
  1   Clean_Hands    Assassin    JoeBruce            1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Infraction     Paladin     PsychoPath          1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   TiredArms      Barbarian   Gabriel74           1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Zkeletal       Necromancer Blindandstoopid     1     A1     Rogue Camp

[highlight]DEAD/RETIRED[/highlight]
[U]Score Character      Class       Forum Name        Level   Act    WP      [/U]
59   OCD            Paladin     pwangsta           30     A3     Durance L2
32   FoulKrack      Amazon      Saucy              20     A2     Lost City
23   Ungar          Barbarian   pwangsta           19     A2     Sewers L2
22   Scorn          Druid       Spatacula          20     A2     Lut Gholein
19   ObsessDeeds    Amazon      EJB                19     A1     Cat LvL 2
14   StaticBabe     Sorceress   Quickdeath         17     A1     Outer Cloister

[highlight]OBSESSIONS[/highlight]
[U]Character      C.Type    Element   Attribute  Skill 1      Skill 2     Skill 3[/U]
Bearly_Skilled Druid     Lightning Strength   Wearbear 
BrassMonkey    Paladin   Lightning Vitality   Zeal
Clean_Hands    Assassin  Lightning Vitality   Claw Mastery
Clobber        Barb      Fire      Vitality   Mace Mast    Berzerk     ?  
Conny          Paladin   Cold      Vitality   Holy Freeze
DeltaO         Amazon    Cold      Vitality   Jab          Straf       Valkyrie    
FoulKrack      Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Magic Arrow   
HiLife         Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Valkyrie
HoldYourColour Assassin  Cold      Vitality   BOS          Blade Fury  ?   
Infraction     Paladin   Fire      Vitality   Charge
Karmesha       Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Valkyrie     -           - 
LiliVon        Sorceress Fire      Vitality   Blaze        -           -
Mad_hatter     Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Strafe       -           -
Mercury        Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Plague Jav   Valkyrie
Ned            Paladin   Fire      Strength   Charge
Nerullan       Necro     Poison    Vitality   Raise Skel   ?           ?
No_Sushi       Sorceress Cold      Vitality   Firewall     Frozen Orb
ObsessDeeds    Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Multishot    -           -
Obsessive      Assassin  Lightning Vitality   Dragon Talon ?           ?
Obsession      Paladin   Lightning Vitality   Zeal         Fant        ?
OCD            Paladin   Lightning Vitality   Holy Shock   ?           ?
OneTrackSkunk  Necro     Poison    Dexterity  Skeletal Mage
Paul           Druid     Lightning Vitality   Oak Sage
Poladnutama    Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Magic Arrow  Plague Javelin
Scorn          Druid     Fire      Strength   Werewolf
StaticBabe     Sorceress Lightning Vitality   Static Field
Tiredarms      Barbarian Lightning Strength   Double Swing
Undertow       Necro     Fire      Vitality   Iron Maiden
Unger          Barbarian Lightning Strength   Sword Mastery
VitaForTheWea  Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Magic Arrow  Valkyrie    -
Zkeletal       Necro     Poison    Vitality   Raise Skeleton
 
As Zkeletal walked down the steps of the catacombs he could smell the stench of death, he heard the mindless titters of his skeletal army following him through the doorway, he hear her scream, the maiden that made this hell hole her den. The skeletons advanced, while Zkeletal stood back, he was much more important than those brainless hordes. The Skeletons slowly fell to the poisonous breath of the Maiden of Anguish, he raised them again, and they attacked together, after a tough battle, the maiden fell. 'The rogues are safe... for now.'

Stats
Strength-34
Dexterity-25
Vitality-92
Energy-25

Skills
Raise skeleton 21/20

Code:
[highlight]ALIVE[/highlight]
[U]Score Character      Class       Forum Name        Level   Act    WP      [/U]
123   Nerullan       Necromancer Sir Lister of Smeg 53     A2 NM  Sewers Level 2
118   Mercury        Amazon      Mursilis           49     A1 NM  Dark Wood
112   Clobber        Barbarian   Wolron             48     A1 NM  Cold Plains
108   Paul           Druid       Naab               46     A1 NM  Rogue Encampment
102   HoldYourColour Assassin    Tartanasia         41     A5     Pindle
83   DeltaO         Amazon      Wolron             35     A5     Harrogath
76   OneTrackSkunk  Necro       Skunkbelly         33     A5     Frig. Highlands
73   BrassMonkey    Paladin     waflob             34     A5     Harrogath
72   mad_hatter     Amazon      skoolbus           34     A5     Bloody Foothills
67   No_Sushi       Sorceress   Grisu              32     A4     Pandemonium Fortress
53   PosadnutaAma   Amazon      Kugel              20     A3     Kurast Docks
50   VitaForTheWeak Amazon      Zarfen             20     A3     Flayer dungeon
43   Obsession      Paladin     Ilshad             25     A3     Kurast Docks
38   Bearly_Skilled Druid       Saucy              24     A2     Canyon 
33   Karmesha       Amazon      moiselvus          25     A2     arcane sanctuary
27   Ned            Paladin     'poops             23     A2     Dry Hills/Hall of Dead
25   Conny          Paladin     Docturnal          19     A2     Sewers lvl 2
22   Zkeletal       Necromancer Blindandstoopid     20     A2     Lut Gholein
22   Undertow       Necro       Spatacula          19     A2     Lut Gholein
17   HiLife         Amazon      zatlaren           19     A1     Inner Cloister
14   LiliVon        Sorceress   TrubbaNot          17     A1     Outer Cloister
14   Obsessive      Assassin    OneFromBeyond      16     A1     Outer Cloister
  1   Clean_Hands    Assassin    JoeBruce            1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Infraction     Paladin     PsychoPath          1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   TiredArms      Barbarian   Gabriel74           1     A1     Rogue Camp

[highlight]DEAD/RETIRED[/highlight]
[U]Score Character      Class       Forum Name        Level   Act    WP      [/U]
59   OCD            Paladin     pwangsta           30     A3     Durance L2
32   FoulKrack      Amazon      Saucy              20     A2     Lost City
23   Ungar          Barbarian   pwangsta           19     A2     Sewers L2
22   Scorn          Druid       Spatacula          20     A2     Lut Gholein
19   ObsessDeeds    Amazon      EJB                19     A1     Cat LvL 2
14   StaticBabe     Sorceress   Quickdeath         17     A1     Outer Cloister

[highlight]OBSESSIONS[/highlight]
[U]Character      C.Type    Element   Attribute  Skill 1      Skill 2     Skill 3[/U]
Bearly_Skilled Druid     Lightning Strength   Wearbear 
BrassMonkey    Paladin   Lightning Vitality   Zeal
Clean_Hands    Assassin  Lightning Vitality   Claw Mastery
Clobber        Barb      Fire      Vitality   Mace Mast    Berzerk     ?  
Conny          Paladin   Cold      Vitality   Holy Freeze
DeltaO         Amazon    Cold      Vitality   Jab          Straf       Valkyrie    
FoulKrack      Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Magic Arrow   
HiLife         Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Valkyrie
HoldYourColour Assassin  Cold      Vitality   BOS          Blade Fury  ?   
Infraction     Paladin   Fire      Vitality   Charge
Karmesha       Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Valkyrie     -           - 
LiliVon        Sorceress Fire      Vitality   Blaze        -           -
Mad_hatter     Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Strafe       -           -
Mercury        Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Plague Jav   Valkyrie
Ned            Paladin   Fire      Strength   Charge
Nerullan       Necro     Poison    Vitality   Raise Skel   ?           ?
No_Sushi       Sorceress Cold      Vitality   Firewall     Frozen Orb
ObsessDeeds    Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Multishot    -           -
Obsessive      Assassin  Lightning Vitality   Dragon Talon ?           ?
Obsession      Paladin   Lightning Vitality   Zeal         Fant        ?
OCD            Paladin   Lightning Vitality   Holy Shock   ?           ?
OneTrackSkunk  Necro     Poison    Dexterity  Skeletal Mage
Paul           Druid     Lightning Vitality   Oak Sage
Poladnutama    Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Magic Arrow  Plague Javelin
Scorn          Druid     Fire      Strength   Werewolf
StaticBabe     Sorceress Lightning Vitality   Static Field
Tiredarms      Barbarian Lightning Strength   Double Swing
Undertow       Necro     Fire      Vitality   Iron Maiden
Unger          Barbarian Lightning Strength   Sword Mastery
VitaForTheWea  Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Magic Arrow  Valkyrie    -
Zkeletal       Necro     Poison    Vitality   Raise Skeleton
 
Wolron said:
That settles it! I am going to spend the rest of this evening going through all the posts and collecting all of the magnificent decisions that I have made (and then immediately forgotten about).
Maybe you could write a new post with the updated rules and link it in your signature, so one wouldn't have to search the whole thread when we sometime reach page 100 or so in this thread. That would be really great!
Thanks for all your effort!
 
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Grisu said:
Maybe you could write a new post with the updated rules and link it in your signature, so one wouldn't have to search the whole thread when we sometime reach page 100 or so in this thread. That would be really great!
Thanks for all your effort!
I don't think he can do that, but what might be possible is to rewrite the first post, with all the details on rules that have been decided on since, and ask a mod to replace the original with the new version. That way, people who want to join later can also easily see all the rules right upon joining.
 
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HiLife has made some nice progress tonight. Finished off Act 1. Did Andy on p8. As usual her drop was rubbish. Nothing good in the way of items yet really. Got the act 2 merc and put a topaz and sapphire in a polearm. Cleared to the viper temple and recovered the headpeice. I am pretty much a passenger now merc does all the killing as my damage is hopeless. Decided that if I don't want to be naked in NM I am going to need some str so started putting 1 point per level there.

Score
15 Waypoints: 15
8 Quests: 16
Total Score is 31

Code:
[highlight]ALIVE[/highlight]
[U]Score Character      Class       Forum Name        Level   Act    WP      [/U]
123   Nerullan       Necromancer Sir Lister of Smeg 53     A2 NM  Sewers Level 2
118   Mercury        Amazon      Mursilis           49     A1 NM  Dark Wood
112   Clobber        Barbarian   Wolron             48     A1 NM  Cold Plains
108   Paul           Druid       Naab               46     A1 NM  Rogue Encampment
102   HoldYourColour Assassin    Tartanasia         41     A5     Pindle
83   DeltaO         Amazon      Wolron             35     A5     Harrogath
76   OneTrackSkunk  Necro       Skunkbelly         33     A5     Frig. Highlands
73   BrassMonkey    Paladin     waflob             34     A5     Harrogath
72   mad_hatter     Amazon      skoolbus           34     A5     Bloody Foothills
67   No_Sushi       Sorceress   Grisu              32     A4     Pandemonium Fortress
53   PosadnutaAma   Amazon      Kugel              20     A3     Kurast Docks
50   VitaForTheWeak Amazon      Zarfen             20     A3     Flayer dungeon
43   Obsession      Paladin     Ilshad             25     A3     Kurast Docks
38   Bearly_Skilled Druid       Saucy              24     A2     Canyon 
33   Karmesha       Amazon      moiselvus          25     A2     arcane sanctuary
31   HiLife         Amazon      zatlaren           25     A2     Lost City
27   Ned            Paladin     'poops             23     A2     Dry Hills/Hall of Dead
25   Conny          Paladin     Docturnal          19     A2     Sewers lvl 2
22   Zkeletal       Necromancer Blindandstoopid    20     A2     Lut Gholein
22   Undertow       Necro       Spatacula          19     A2     Lut Gholein
14   LiliVon        Sorceress   TrubbaNot          17     A1     Outer Cloister
14   Obsessive      Assassin    OneFromBeyond      16     A1     Outer Cloister
  1   Clean_Hands    Assassin    JoeBruce            1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   Infraction     Paladin     PsychoPath          1     A1     Rogue Camp
  1   TiredArms      Barbarian   Gabriel74           1     A1     Rogue Camp

[highlight]DEAD/RETIRED[/highlight]
[U]Score Character      Class       Forum Name        Level   Act    WP      [/U]
59   OCD            Paladin     pwangsta           30     A3     Durance L2
32   FoulKrack      Amazon      Saucy              20     A2     Lost City
23   Ungar          Barbarian   pwangsta           19     A2     Sewers L2
22   Scorn          Druid       Spatacula          20     A2     Lut Gholein
19   ObsessDeeds    Amazon      EJB                19     A1     Cat LvL 2
14   StaticBabe     Sorceress   Quickdeath         17     A1     Outer Cloister

[highlight]OBSESSIONS[/highlight]
[U]Character      C.Type    Element   Attribute  Skill 1      Skill 2     Skill 3[/U]
Bearly_Skilled Druid     Lightning Strength   Wearbear 
BrassMonkey    Paladin   Lightning Vitality   Zeal
Clean_Hands    Assassin  Lightning Vitality   Claw Mastery
Clobber        Barb      Fire      Vitality   Mace Mast    Berzerk     ?  
Conny          Paladin   Cold      Vitality   Holy Freeze
DeltaO         Amazon    Cold      Vitality   Jab          Straf       Valkyrie    
FoulKrack      Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Magic Arrow   
HiLife         Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Valkyrie
HoldYourColour Assassin  Cold      Vitality   BOS          Blade Fury  ?   
Infraction     Paladin   Fire      Vitality   Charge
Karmesha       Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Valkyrie     -           - 
LiliVon        Sorceress Fire      Vitality   Blaze        -           -
Mad_hatter     Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Strafe       -           -
Mercury        Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Plague Jav   Valkyrie
Ned            Paladin   Fire      Strength   Charge
Nerullan       Necro     Poison    Vitality   Raise Skel   ?           ?
No_Sushi       Sorceress Cold      Vitality   Firewall     Frozen Orb
ObsessDeeds    Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Multishot    -           -
Obsessive      Assassin  Lightning Vitality   Dragon Talon ?           ?
Obsession      Paladin   Lightning Vitality   Zeal         Fant        ?
OCD            Paladin   Lightning Vitality   Holy Shock   ?           ?
OneTrackSkunk  Necro     Poison    Dexterity  Skeletal Mage
Paul           Druid     Lightning Vitality   Oak Sage
Poladnutama    Amazon    Lightning Vitality   Magic Arrow  Plague Javelin
Scorn          Druid     Fire      Strength   Werewolf
StaticBabe     Sorceress Lightning Vitality   Static Field
Tiredarms      Barbarian Lightning Strength   Double Swing
Undertow       Necro     Fire      Vitality   Iron Maiden
Unger          Barbarian Lightning Strength   Sword Mastery
VitaForTheWea  Amazon    Lightning Dexterity  Magic Arrow  Valkyrie    -
Zkeletal       Necro     Poison    Vitality   Raise Skeleton

I have a question about stat points. Are the 5 points from the act 3 quest spent the same as level ones? I am assuming they are but just want to make sure.
 
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