1.13 RoF Superchest Patterns
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My first HR in a month of playing. Really, my first rune higher than a Pul. Just under 300 runs and I got an Ohm with a Mesh belt, Bearded Axe, and Spetum. I'm taking SS's of all my drops. First time I've really utilized screenshot. Pretty cool to be able to look back like that.
EDIT#1: I don't really understand how the drops work for Diablo II. I have many many many hours in this game. I've been playing since 2001 and still find this game enjoyable. It's not until the last couple of years that I actually started paying attention to prefix, suffix, just mechanics in general. I've noticed that when running RoF, the chests drop a lot of the same items. For instance, the chest on the left dropped rare antlers and the chest on the right dropped rare antlers. Both had similar stats. In one game I got a magic tiara with 6% life leech. The game right after that i got another magic tiara with % life leech. I find a lot of 6 to poison damage grand charms. I'm also finding a lot of fine small charms.
Can anyone shed some light on this? This probably isn't the thread for this so if you could PM me with a link to some information I would be greatly appreciated. I'm seriously considering figuring out how to make the map seed dynamic versus static to imitate battle.net. That obviously wouldn't work for LK/RoF, but it would make it more interesting long term for me.
EDIT#1: I don't really understand how the drops work for Diablo II. I have many many many hours in this game. I've been playing since 2001 and still find this game enjoyable. It's not until the last couple of years that I actually started paying attention to prefix, suffix, just mechanics in general. I've noticed that when running RoF, the chests drop a lot of the same items. For instance, the chest on the left dropped rare antlers and the chest on the right dropped rare antlers. Both had similar stats. In one game I got a magic tiara with 6% life leech. The game right after that i got another magic tiara with % life leech. I find a lot of 6 to poison damage grand charms. I'm also finding a lot of fine small charms.
Can anyone shed some light on this? This probably isn't the thread for this so if you could PM me with a link to some information I would be greatly appreciated. I'm seriously considering figuring out how to make the map seed dynamic versus static to imitate battle.net. That obviously wouldn't work for LK/RoF, but it would make it more interesting long term for me.
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I don't know enough about that, but I think the previous consensus was that they are not affected by the seed (my gut feeling has always been that they are though). @Brak would know better I think.
It certainly is strange for you to repeat your pattern 3 times, seeing as in all my 6.5k runs I never got the same HR pattern twice. Now that's not to say other patterns with all junk didn't repeat themselves, Brak even had his triple(or was it double?)-Tiara-with-nothing-else pattern repeat at least twice. It could also just be confirmation bias, in that since it's a Jah we are much more likely to focus on that pattern and you just got lucky that it happened to be a good pattern that repeated itself.
Long story short, I don't know.
It certainly is strange for you to repeat your pattern 3 times, seeing as in all my 6.5k runs I never got the same HR pattern twice. Now that's not to say other patterns with all junk didn't repeat themselves, Brak even had his triple(or was it double?)-Tiara-with-nothing-else pattern repeat at least twice. It could also just be confirmation bias, in that since it's a Jah we are much more likely to focus on that pattern and you just got lucky that it happened to be a good pattern that repeated itself.
Long story short, I don't know.
. Any plans with all those Jah runes yet?I've seen the Tiara Tiara pattern twice. And once from a locked chest I got Tiara/Tiara drop that had some other things and may have been an extended seed.I don't know enough about that, but I think the previous consensus was that they are not affected by the seed (my gut feeling has always been that they are though). @Brak would know better I think.
It certainly is strange for you to repeat your pattern 3 times, seeing as in all my 6.5k runs I never got the same HR pattern twice. Now that's not to say other patterns with all junk didn't repeat themselves, Brak even had his triple(or was it double?)-Tiara-with-nothing-else pattern repeat at least twice. It could also just be confirmation bias, in that since it's a Jah we are much more likely to focus on that pattern and you just got lucky that it happened to be a good pattern that repeated itself.
Long story short, I don't know.
I'd be surprised if there is a seed relation though due to how often people run LK and how consistently people perform those runs. If Superchests behave anything like racks do, I'm 99% sure it would have been noticed by now.
I would chalk it up to immense luck at this point. But who knows?
T72on1
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Congrats on the Vex !!
I didn't use Delirium as merc helm, although it might be a good choice. When there are a lot of enemies around and I can't click the chest, it usually is enough to tele to one side, have the monsters follow me and then tele to the other side, tk'ing the chest I want to reach. Most of the times hitting the chests right away isn't a problem though.
What worked well for me is to teleport in such a way that I was below the right chest, but far enough that it was near the edge of the screen. This way I would only wake up monsters to the north of the chest by the time I had already tk'ed the chest. Then walk a bit to the left so that I can have the same scenario for the left chest.
This might not be the best sotution, but for me it seemed to work quite well.
I didn't use Delirium as merc helm, although it might be a good choice. When there are a lot of enemies around and I can't click the chest, it usually is enough to tele to one side, have the monsters follow me and then tele to the other side, tk'ing the chest I want to reach. Most of the times hitting the chests right away isn't a problem though.
What worked well for me is to teleport in such a way that I was below the right chest, but far enough that it was near the edge of the screen. This way I would only wake up monsters to the north of the chest by the time I had already tk'ed the chest. Then walk a bit to the left so that I can have the same scenario for the left chest.
This might not be the best sotution, but for me it seemed to work quite well.
Ist! players 5 - 6
I didn't think runes could drop from rare pops. LK sure hasn't ever done it for me. Vex and now ist.
Edit: Um! Players 5 - 6
Edit#3: I'm ending it on run #2420. I've been at this for over 12 hours. Finally have to call it quits. Work at 8 am. Today's not going to be much fun. I really thought I could get that Jah.
I didn't think runes could drop from rare pops. LK sure hasn't ever done it for me. Vex and now ist.
Edit: Um! Players 5 - 6
Edit#3: I'm ending it on run #2420. I've been at this for over 12 hours. Finally have to call it quits. Work at 8 am. Today's not going to be much fun. I really thought I could get that Jah.
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Congrats on the runes.
I personally wouldn't use Delirium on the merc because Confuse procs will make it impossible to draw monsters away from the chests. Also, if he gets transformed into a fetish, I've found my merc just gets frozen in place and wont do anything, so you'll have a dead/useless merc at these times. I'm running Andy's for the IAS and leech. Before that I was just using something with leech and an IAS jewel socketed into it.
As for TK'ing. I try to hit the same landing area on runs. If you get a good spawn, it doesn't matter where the monsters are you can TK the chest if you can tag it before they react to your presence. This works well for the chest on the right. For the chest on the left, with high monster densities, I Teleport to the top of the map behind the ruins and get them to move towards me. Then you can usually TK it straight away, or after a teleport back down to the bottom.
I personally wouldn't use Delirium on the merc because Confuse procs will make it impossible to draw monsters away from the chests. Also, if he gets transformed into a fetish, I've found my merc just gets frozen in place and wont do anything, so you'll have a dead/useless merc at these times. I'm running Andy's for the IAS and leech. Before that I was just using something with leech and an IAS jewel socketed into it.
As for TK'ing. I try to hit the same landing area on runs. If you get a good spawn, it doesn't matter where the monsters are you can TK the chest if you can tag it before they react to your presence. This works well for the chest on the right. For the chest on the left, with high monster densities, I Teleport to the top of the map behind the ruins and get them to move towards me. Then you can usually TK it straight away, or after a teleport back down to the bottom.
Players 1/2
Players 3/4
Players 5/6
Players 7/8
Sorry about those tables. I was a little intimidated. It's been a long long time since I've messed with any of that on these forums. They should be updated. If I need to make changes in the future let me know.
Thanks for the information guys. Delerium's a no go. My merc is good to go right now. Actually, with my reapers I just found my runs have improved dramatically. That decrepify really comes in handy when I get a map with high density.
I didn't read through the entire thread until just now. As of now I've got 2xxx runs on /players 5. For the sake of science I'll be shooting for about ~1000 runs per day. I'll expect a Nobel nomination when I confirm that Cham drop. I only average about 3 - 4 hours of sleep per night and I just finished grad school. I've got a lot more time on my hands right now. My last day at my current job is September 2nd and my start date for my new job is September 12th. I'll probably be able to push out ~1500 per day, hopefully more. All on /players 5 of course.
Honestly I'm not even really doing this for the runes. They're just icing on the cake. Couple that with the thrill of discovering a new pattern and I'm golden. I'm a sucker for charms and a perfectionist at that. The perfect gems I'm collecting are definitely going to come in handy with all the charm rolling I'm going to be doing.
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Rune Item #1 Item #2 Item #3 Item #4 Finder
Pul #1 Grim Shield Hatchet Long Sword 3 others Ailelya
Pul #2 Falchion Ailelya
Pul #3 Barbed Club Ogre Axe Short War Bow Ailelya
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Um #1 Chain Mail Diamond Bow Ailelya
Um #2 Shadow Bow Ailelya
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Mal #1 Bearded Axe Gnarled Staff mir
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Ist #1 Bill Grave Wand Large Charm Ailelya
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Gul #1 nothing Ailelya
Gu1 #2 Battle Axe Ailelya
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Vex #1 nothing AilelyaPlayers 3/4
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Rune Item #1 Item #2 Item #3 Item #4 Finder
Ohm #1 Balanced Axe Balanced Knife 2-Handed Sword Brak
Ber #1 Chain Boots Short Siege Bow Great Maul LiquidClearPlayers 5/6
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Rune Item #1 Item #2 Item #3 Item #4 Finder
Um #1 Claymore Glaive War Javelin MizzouFTW
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Ist #1 Belt Boneweave Boots Grand Scepter Grave Wand MizzouFTW
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Gul #1 Circlet Pilum Small Charm - Grisu
Gul #2 Axe Bone Knife Full Helm 2 others Pb_pal
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Vex #1 Battle Dart Broad Sword Military Pick Ring MizzouFTW
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Lo #1 Breast Plate Phase Blade Plated Belt 2 others Pb_pal
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Jah #1 Belt Poignard CarawolkPlayers 7/8
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Rune Item #1 Item #2 Item #3 Item #4 Finder
Pul #1 Chaos Armor Executioner SwordExecutioner Sword2 others Brak
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Um #1 Elder Staff Gothic Shield Hydraskull Sabre Grape
Um #2 Balrog Blade Breast Plate Dusk Shroud 7 others Grisu
Um #3 Aerin Shield Chu-Ko-Nu Flail 5 others NanoMist
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Mal #1 Battle Dart Bone Shield Pb_pal
Mal #2 Blade Barrier Great Maul Long Sword Razor Bow zticazzy
Mal #3 Crossbow Jo Staff Tir Rune 2 others zticazzy
Mal #4 Arbalest Tir Rune 2-handed Axe Lochaber Axe Pb_pal
Mal #5 Amulet Balrog Skin Battle Scythe 4 others Pb_pal
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Ist #1 Ancient Shield Brandistock Pb_pal
Ist #2 Throwing Spear Grape
Ist #3 Balrog Blade Pavise Short Spear Brak
Ist #4 Battle Cestus Blade Bow Cedar Staff 5 others Brak
Ist #5 Ghost Wand Long War Bow Scale Mail Brak
Ist #6 Brandistock Preserved Head NanoMist
Ist #7 Breast Plate Silver-Edged Axe Ring Brak
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Gul #1 Diamond Bow Dusk Shroud Francisca Pb_pal
Gul #2 Gauntlets Great Pilum Truncheon Brak
Gul #3 Double Axe Flanged Mace Grim Shield 3 others Pb_pal
Gul #4 Demonhide Boots Field Plate Stygian Pike 3 others Pb_pal
Gul #5 Gothic Shield Pilum Stygian Pike Brak
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Vex #1 Antlers Falcata Ring Silver-Edged Axe Pb_pal
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Ohm #1 Cantor Trophy Ring Pb_pal
Ohm #2 Dimensional Blade Jewel Tiara (Scimitar?) zticazzy
Ohm #3 Balanced Knife Pb_pal
Ohm #4 Balrog Skin Broad Sword Devil Star 4 others Pb_pal
Ohm #5 Bone Shield Defender Dragon Shield 5 others NanoMist
Ohm #6 Bearded Axe Mesh Belt Spetum Pb_pal
Ohm #7 Bone Helm Devil Star Great Axe 3 others NanoMist
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Lo #1 War Staff Brak
Lo #2 Crown Hatchet Hands War Staff Grape
Lo #3 Large Charm Ring Mail Wyrmhide Boots Grape
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Sur #1 Edge Bow Pb_pal
Sur #2 Amn Rune Chain Mail Full Helm zticazzy
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Ber #1 Giant Sword BrakSorry about those tables. I was a little intimidated. It's been a long long time since I've messed with any of that on these forums. They should be updated. If I need to make changes in the future let me know.
Thanks for the information guys. Delerium's a no go. My merc is good to go right now. Actually, with my reapers I just found my runs have improved dramatically. That decrepify really comes in handy when I get a map with high density.
I didn't read through the entire thread until just now. As of now I've got 2xxx runs on /players 5. For the sake of science I'll be shooting for about ~1000 runs per day. I'll expect a Nobel nomination when I confirm that Cham drop. I only average about 3 - 4 hours of sleep per night and I just finished grad school. I've got a lot more time on my hands right now. My last day at my current job is September 2nd and my start date for my new job is September 12th. I'll probably be able to push out ~1500 per day, hopefully more. All on /players 5 of course.
Honestly I'm not even really doing this for the runes. They're just icing on the cake. Couple that with the thrill of discovering a new pattern and I'm golden. I'm a sucker for charms and a perfectionist at that. The perfect gems I'm collecting are definitely going to come in handy with all the charm rolling I'm going to be doing.
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To clarify: patterns are independent of whether they are blue or rare. I believe 1/20 drops will roll rare quality (except ofc charms) and the rest will always be blue. So, it's not surprising that you haven't had a HR with rares since only 1/20 HRs should have them 
