We almost definitely have an unlucky SK to deal with, or a vigilante with limited shot's who's being cautious.
I think it's odd that no one has brought up the fact that there are apparently 2 killing factions out there. Looks like Gwaihir was poisoned/delay-killed(?) and CG was NK'd on N1. Then 2 more get killed last night, and Zokar sounds like he knows something about it (That's my read on his "ROFL"). On top of that, Drixx fried BPC with extreme prejudice and was then fried himself with extreme prejudice by Moar. I seriously hope that all these people were not Town. I normally freak out over SKs, but at least they sometimes kill mafia too. I suppose there could be 2 mafias, but that's pretty rare isn't it?
That's what it looks like to me. If it was something that was executed during the day, I imagine we would be well aware of it like the BPC/Drixx/Moar debacle. With the lore, there are other jobs that take some time to hit/kill (Archers(Charge) and Dragoons(Jump) like Leo), but Black Mages *do* have a spell called "Poison". Sounds like too good of a "mod-portunity" to miss. In general (non-lore) terms, Ninjas are often poisoners too. If it is a BM, we had 2 alive N1 that could have done it, and one left to tell the tale... I guess it still comes down to whether you believe Drixx or Moar. Or neither.
Seems likely that techno knew that at least one of the kills the previous night wasn't performed by his team. A long delay with no 2nd kill suggests either some lucky protective powers, or someone with limited vig shots. IF we have an SK rather than someone with vig shots at least attempting to help us out, then my thoughts yesterday which made me swap my vote from my first choice, Moar, to my 2nd choice, Technomancer, were actually wrong. We probably had 4 scum to start, and 1 SK. Now we have 3 unless the SK has managed to kill some scum, which we can't assume to be the case.
So yes, I think it's very safe to assume that today we're in Lylo actually.
Monk, Town, Chakra is my ability name, and my reluctance to claim comes from the fact that I was, and still am not, certain how to express my power without giving scum information I don't want them to have, and I wanted to see who noticed I hadn't claimed yet and pushed for me to do so.
My ability is defensive in nature, with offensive potential. That's all I'm comfortable saying about it for now.
Re: Who actually paid attention to my lack of a claim: That would be Moar who first made a point about it, and Jcakes who was waiting to see if he could contradict my claim.
Based on the way scum have been killing people(i.e, targeting vocal players it seems, who are generally believed to be "good") I would be inclined to think that the scum are very very likely controlling all the conversation in this game. So I'm going to go check post counts for everyone still alive and see who's said the most.
BRB.
3. Jcakes - 14
4. Goldtru - 40
5. Zokar - 41
6. Technomancer - 40
8. Numbers - 23
11. Moar - 30
12. Bad Ash - 35
15. Noodle - 11
18. coju -15
19. FoE - 9
21. Annualantanswers - 19
From last night lynch, and all the days prior votes, that were on Goryani, Leo, or Vorle, our only flips and all confirmed town.
D3
Goryani {7}: Bad Ash, Technomancer, FredOfErik, coju, Jcakes, Iwanttousenumbersinmyname, Moar
D2
Goryani {1}: Coju
D1
Goryani {3}: Goldtru, Valhauros, Bad Ash
So, from these two sets of numbers, we see Technomancer, Bad Ash, GoldTru, Zokar, and Moar have over 30 posts, and seem to have been controlling the conversation(which has gone nicely circular and only resulted in one town lynch) this whole time. Out of that list, GoldTru, Techno, Bad Ash and Moar all voted for our known townie(and Bad Ash did it twice).
Past that, we come to myself(23), AAA(19), Coju(15), Jcakes(14), and Noodle(11), then we have FoE(9) at the rear. Among those who are speaking less, Jcakes, Coju, FoE and myself voted for Goryani, and Coju did it twice.
I'm going to go over other posts, and go over Bad Ash's and Goryani's posts to see why BA voted the way he did, and what questions Goryani was asking and who he was probing, but for now, I shall Vote: Bad Ash.
Quoting myself. Out of the remaining primary suspects I had from the previous days, Goldtru, Techno, BA, and Moar, who had all voted for our known townie Goryani and also put a lot of effort into controlling theconversation, Moar is dead now. Techno was scum. That leaves BA and Goldtru. Yesterdays vote count.
Vote count
Numbers (1): (coju), BA, (Technomancer)
Bad Ash (1): AAA
Moar (0): (Numbers)
Technomancer (6): Numbers, Noodle, Goldtru, coju, Zokar, FredofErik, (Moar, BA)<<Not included in mod vote count, I assume because the votes came after the lock?
Noodle (1): Technomancer
Goldtru voted for our scum. BA didn't vote for our scum until his lynch was already assured. Goldtru could have very well been distancing herself from him though, so there's nothing I would say we can go off of there, though it does make me lean towards town for her.
A few things to say about BA's post, cut up below:
Found it, added some quotes along the way that piqued my interest.
This post piqued my interest because Techno didn't have thoughts about numbers, yet agreed with him later. Also no thoughts on Fred.
What are the chances someone he listed his thoughts on his scum? What are the chances someone he didn't is scum?
He was agreeing with me about the proper way to vote when presented with two equally likely options...I don't think that's actually relevant to whether or not he had any thoughts on me.
I think it's likely at least one of the people he said he felt was town, is scum. Beyond that I have no idea.
Have you successfully used your skill for anything? Is there any chance you've stopped a night kill that could have come from a second faction, or is that not how your role works?
I would also like to know the answer to this question, but it does feel a bit fishy.
I think it's time you said more about your role.
What exactly do you want me to say about my role? Given that it is defensive, there is a rather small number of possible options, and the details of which only benefit scum, not town. I also never said that I kill those who attack me. As you said, that would be a very very stupid thing to share with the scum.
Also, can someone please explain to me why everyone persists in the logical fallacy that somehow having my class known by jcakes in any way dictated my actions? With the classes being equally viable as both town or scum roles, class knowledge does nothing, and there's basically no reason for scum to fake claim that I can see. As I said before, if anything, being confirmed by jcakes as telling the truth about my role would be worth far more in the tiny bit of town cred it would have given me were I scum, than the nonexistent benefit and extra risk of fake claiming.
My current thoughts on everyone:
4. Goldtru - Squire - Slightly leaning town, but only because she voted for Techno long before it was certain he was likely to be lynched.
5. Zokar - Squire - Lynching vote, could be of equal significance. Was his first post of the day, so I kind of feel like this was just him following along with the train in progress...not certain because as scum, he could have easily ignored the lynch at the time he posted and hoped his partner didn't get lynched, but since he HAD to post something and not voting for the train in progress if it did turn out to be targeted at scum would have been extremely suspicious, he just voted for him. Normally I'd be a bit more inclined to give him credit for the locking vote, but in his situation where he had to post, I have no clear read.
8. Numbers -Monk - Obv town.
12. Bad Ash - Squire Leaning scum, voted for a known townie(Goryani) twice, who was also suspicious of him, then voted for scum, but only after they were locked.
18. coju - Chemist - No idea, I have some questions below that I'd really like him to answer
19. FredOfErik -White Mage(2nd one, and claiming different powers than the first) - Unsure. Living through tonight is pure WiFom for the scum, could easily be a fake claim however.
21. Annualantanswers - Knight - Didn't vote for our known scum. DID vote for the person I find most scummy, but evidence is quite thin.
AAA: Why didn't you vote for Techno?
Coju: You claimed a JoAT type power, what powers have you used on who? Have you learned anything?
FoE: I'm sorry I didn't respond to your questions yesterday. You raised valid points about how easy it would be to make a fake target list, I was just trying to get you to talk to give me more of a read.
