Final Fantasy Forum Mafia Game Thread

Technomancer said:
Unless something more obvious pops up, Moar would be a logical lynch. Either her or Drixx were scum I'm pretty sure, lynching her would finally settle it. I've still been a little leary of that Ice spell claim.
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I really don't like this. Moar is the easy vote and I honestly feel that people focusing on her are moar likely to be scum than not. That is based on my town read of Moar though.

FredOfErik said:
I'll query a bit more (whatever that means), thank you. So why did you not get/tell about an N1 result?



As for the lack of my claim: I didn't claim yesterday for several reasons. First of all, I think it was too early for a mass claim, especially in a game where name/job apparently isn't closely tied to alignment AND where town's investigative PRs have only had two nights to receive results. Second of all, me claiming adds no info except for obvious name/job/ability which, given the nature of my role, I would like to withhold for now. Depending on how everything plays out, I may and may not claim later this dayphase.
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As for my N1 result, I am not going to reveal it just yet for a couple of reasons that will become evident later.

Moar said:
Freaking bad day at work. Forgot there was a 3 hour meeting today for all of us. After one hour I wanted to shoot 4 of them and after two hours the rest too. The third hour was pain and torture. I hate such stuff! Wasn't in the mood to read this and post here before after dinner and a couple of drinks.

From her posting after Drixx and my DK's I thought Goldtrue is scum. I have changed my opinion on that now. Her posting today was less "glibberish" than before. She actually managed to write 2 posts without flirtacious kind of unecessary stuff. (I know that's your style and bubbly personality, no harm meant, it's just not my kind of thing. Like flubby has his thing too. And I don't understand a word he says.)

So now I am kind of at a loss. I'd like to hear more from numbers. Like why no claim and your reason. I might have missed it though. Not too sharp tonight.
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I can provide numbers job if you like, picked it up last night. Was hoping that he'd claim first so I could catch him in a lie, but he seems very unwilling to claim so far.

Numbers is a Monk, no idea what that means for a role though.

Goldtru said:
Ummmm. Why would Moar shoot Drixx if they were on the same team? Bus him, I guess? I don't know! I'm not the one on trial here! :nod:
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They could both have been town and Moar lied about Drixx.
 
IWantToUseNumbersInMyName said:
Well, there's only been one extra NK. There were 3 day kills effectively, gwai dying could have been caused by any number of things. I think your suspicion and wariness about there possibly being multiple factions with kills is reasonable, however the simple fact that we saw two day vig shots makes me feel more inclined to think that there are simply multiple limited kill shots available to different classes, and likely in both factions. We can only be relatively certain that 1 kill every night has come from scum.
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I can appreciate that perspective, but I'm under the impression that for a day kill to be done, it must be done publicly since there were such explicit rules about such things. Gwaihir's death wasn't executed publicly like the Drixx/Moar fire-fight, so I assumed a poison/delayed kill was used the night before.

You have piqued my curiosity though, I think I'll skim back through D2 to see if there are any weirdness in posts to or about Gwaihir before his death.
 
Jcakes said:
I really don't like this. Moar is the easy vote and I honestly feel that people focusing on her are moar likely to be scum than not. That is based on my town read of Moar though.
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Well, we don't have much else to go with do we? Besides my concern about her spell description, I feel somewhat townie about her as well, so I'm not thrilled about it. I don't know what Zokar was talking about happening last game, but I don't really see her and Drixx both being town. That would be a horrible play! That assumption would leave a 1 in 2 chance of her being scum. For the rest of us, I guess it's a 3-5 in 11 chance if my earlier figures were right.

If anyone has a better idea, don't be shy.
 
Monk, Town, Chakra is my ability name, and my reluctance to claim comes from the fact that I was, and still am not, certain how to express my power without giving scum information I don't want them to have, and I wanted to see who noticed I hadn't claimed yet and pushed for me to do so.

My ability is defensive in nature, with offensive potential. That's all I'm comfortable saying about it for now.

Re: Who actually paid attention to my lack of a claim: That would be Moar who first made a point about it, and Jcakes who was waiting to see if he could contradict my claim.

Based on the way scum have been killing people(i.e, targeting vocal players it seems, who are generally believed to be "good") I would be inclined to think that the scum are very very likely controlling all the conversation in this game. So I'm going to go check post counts for everyone still alive and see who's said the most.

BRB.

3. Jcakes - 14
4. Goldtru - 40
5. Zokar - 41
6. Technomancer - 40
8. Numbers - 23
11. Moar - 30
12. Bad Ash - 35
15. Noodle - 11
18. coju -15
19. FoE - 9
21. Annualantanswers - 19

From last night lynch, and all the days prior votes, that were on Goryani, Leo, or Vorle, our only flips and all confirmed town.

D3

Goryani {7}: Bad Ash, Technomancer, FredOfErik, coju, Jcakes, Iwanttousenumbersinmyname, Moar

D2

Goryani {1}: Coju

D1
Goryani {3}: Goldtru, Valhauros, Bad Ash


So, from these two sets of numbers, we see Technomancer, Bad Ash, GoldTru, Zokar, and Moar have over 30 posts, and seem to have been controlling the conversation(which has gone nicely circular and only resulted in one town lynch) this whole time. Out of that list, GoldTru, Techno, Bad Ash and Moar all voted for our known townie(and Bad Ash did it twice).

Past that, we come to myself(23), AAA(19), Coju(15), Jcakes(14), and Noodle(11), then we have FoE(9) at the rear. Among those who are speaking less, Jcakes, Coju, FoE and myself voted for Goryani, and Coju did it twice.

I'm going to go over other posts, and go over Bad Ash's and Goryani's posts to see why BA voted the way he did, and what questions Goryani was asking and who he was probing, but for now, I shall Vote: Bad Ash.
 
I would also be very okay with voting for Moar. Moar's lynch would either 1) remove scum, or 2)remove a town player, and thus give us the knowledge that Drixx was scum because a known town player said he was.
 
IWantToUseNumbersInMyName said:
I'm going to go over other posts, and go over Bad Ash's and Goryani's posts to see why BA voted the way he did, and what questions Goryani was asking and who he was probing, but for now, I shall Vote: Bad Ash.
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If I was scum gory would have been my first kill without a doubt. I was comfortable voting for him because I think he was setting me up as scum with night kills, posting in a similar, yet different, style than his previous games, and was trying to get me lynched because I thought BPC was role fishing and he said he was scumhunting. That combined with the fact that I adamantly believe that vanilla's shouldn't claim vanilla unless there is a mass role claim or under threat of lynch (I.E. "just because" a vanilla should try to get NKed...something gory brought to my attention 2-3 games ago) yet seemed to disagree with it here? That's why I was OK with a gory lynch.
 
IWantToUseNumbersInMyName said:
I would also be very okay with voting for Moar. Moar's lynch would either 1) remove scum, or 2)remove a town player, and thus give us the knowledge that Drixx was scum because a known town player said he was.
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I am actually somewhat concerned about FoE as well.

BTW how did you get to the post count page?
 
IWantToUseNumbersInMyName said:
Why are you concerned about FoE? Anything you can articulate?
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Nothing really, just feels a bit like he is going through the motions. That and him not claiming / pressing me for my D1 result just rubs me up the wrong way.
 
I explained my reluctance to claim. I don't see any point in mass claiming. Since we with some degree of confidence that any role could just as well be town as scum, what does it help?

And I keep pushing you to claim your N1 result because we have a player claiming to have possibly blocked all N1 anti-town actions. I want you to claim your result so I can see whether or not you actually have a result, which I'm starting to doubt.

Regarding post counts: that's new. I've never seen a "lynch the most active players" argument. And regarding my own (admittedly low) count, remember I wasn't there for D1.


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