Zero is not between 1 and 10. It was a silly retort by me.
Final Fantasy Forum Mafia Game Thread
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Zero is not between 1 and 10. It was a silly retort by me.
Technomancer
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I think he's up to something. His claim seems too convenient. You, BPC, Pyro, and BA are all arguing over him, so depending on how he flips we could go back and potentially glean some insight into one or more of you. And most likely the only way we can get that info is if we lynch him. I imagine a mafia hit would keep it secret, as may a vigi kill (not sure). He may also be a VI / Tree Stump, so lynching him would just mean he wins too at the end.
That is really suspicious, that's why I asked too. It seems to me like he is seeing who he can most easily deceive.
If I'm wrong, I will be most interested in hearing the details later on!
I can't figure out how to quote from the sign up thread. However, pharphis said:
To keep this game from being too lore-heavy, jobs will NOT be representative of alignment.
ex/ black mages use black magic but that doesn't equate to being mafia
Ipso facto, the game is primarily flavor, and whether or not someone's knowledge of the game extends past speed reading the Wiki should be irrelevant. Yet you are very focused on it. QED etc. My vote stands.
To keep this game from being too lore-heavy, jobs will NOT be representative of alignment.
ex/ black mages use black magic but that doesn't equate to being mafia
Ipso facto, the game is primarily flavor, and whether or not someone's knowledge of the game extends past speed reading the Wiki should be irrelevant. Yet you are very focused on it. QED etc. My vote stands.
crawlingdeadman1
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This big post to me boils down to the bolded part to which I reply: Why kill a town anything?
SIGN UP THREADS SHOULD NOT MATTER TO A GAME THREAD!! Quoting from them is a scum move in my eyes. I personally quit reading a sign up thread the minute I sign up and verify I'm on the list. OT spam doesn't interest me. Anything that is important to THIS GAME should be in THIS THREAD.
BipolarChemist
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Jobs aren't indicative of alignment but they are still apart of the lore and the game. What I got from Phar's explanation was that jobs aren't indicative of alignment, but could be indicative of ability, which could very well be indicative of alignment.
Selecting rhetoric from other posts and nitpicking an answer for the sake of pinpointing attention seems unnecessarily antagonizing, even for you. This seems a more aggressive version of your normal style, which makes me think you are changing strategy from last game's lurker approach.
Vote: Goryani
AnnualAntAnswers
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Yeah, I agree. I think it's somewhat foolhardy to look too quickly past any information provided by mods, including references to the source material. There's a good chance that at least some things tie into the big picture.
Which is not to say that FF Theme familiarity will factor into my votes but hey, who am I to judge others' playing styles?
Hmmm. That's a non-answer answer. Who is town/scummy if Zokar flips town/scum? I don't think you've thought about it. Hell, you even admit as much with the "go back and potentially" comment. In short, your reasoning for lynching Zokar today is so we can read about it and possibly, maybe, do something with that info tomorrow. Or not.
You are placing a vote because of an off-topic post and by noticing a difference in play between now, when I'm at home, and last game, when I was on vacation in a country thousands of miles away from home seeing family I hadn't seen in years. :thumbup:
Technomancer
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Preferably, we shouldn't kill a town anything, but I was just acknowledging some merit to what Bad Ash said here...
...about Bipolar's questioning of Zokar. (My takeaway is that if mafia is gonna kill a townie, better a vanilla than a PR. Sounds reasonable enough.) Following that up though are some of my doubts about Zokar's claim and the more I think about it, the worse I feel about Zokar. Way too much WIFOM. At this point, I don't really think Zokar is town, the unprovoked claim just pings my radar hard. Even taking it at face value, it sounds like someone who wants to check out at the earliest possible convenience. Has he even posted since that?
I also admitted as much asking for thought and arguments. And cheese cake. I'm operating a bit more on right-brain right now, for day 1 there isn't much else to go on. BA seems to be indirectly defending him, so if Zokar did flip scum, that would look bad on him. If he is town, especially if he's more than what he says, it could look bad on BPC. Trying to dig into a town PR does seem a bit scummy. I'm not sure either would say much about you or Pyro since you are more arguing about the argument than about Zokar.
Completely abandoning the Zokar aspect of everything, you and BA (he's either legit or defending a scum-buddy) are giving me the worst vibes now. Now, with your fixation on peoples' familiarity with the game's theme (which sounds like targeting data of some sort to me), and going back into the signup thread sounds like you are really reaching, clamoring for something that isn't there. I'm not liking it. Not at all.
Nahh, IDTS. The lack of day kill powers does not immediately constitute the presence of night kill powers.
logoutzero
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Yes, there will be an official post that ends the day, that will tell you when to stop posting in this thread, and will usually include any lynch info if there is any. Likewise, there will be a post that says when night has ended and the next day phase has begun.
Just FYI;
Day 1 will end approximately 6.5 hours from this post.
We may close it down a few minutes early, or late, depending on IRL stuff, but feel free to post until we close the thread for the day. I will have an updated vote count within the next hour, I'm headed to work now.
Pyrotechnician1
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So asking to be shot does not mean he wants to be killed? Is that what you are getting at?
That would make it easier, thanks in advance!
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Pyrotechnician1
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I think his post created the perfect balance of WIFOM to be left alone. Is he vanilla or is he not is the mafias question, is he town or is he not is the towns question, does he have any retaliation, does he have some sort of effect. His post raises so many questions that no one is going to want to touch him, or at least thats the impression I'm getting.
This, can't say it much better.
Hm, strange, since I usually connotate the much more aggressive Gory to be more townish than mafia, last game he lurked (busy in real life being an aside), but his posts are so much more passive as mafia than the "in your face, billion questions" of town Gory. I think you are going for a reason just to have a reason to remove Gory early.
Vote: Valhauros
It was supposed to be funny but at the same time poke at him, he said he didn't have day kill powers, the correct response would have been that he didn't have ANY kill powers.
BipolarChemist
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Considering how late it is already and our lack of information, a no-lynch may be in our best interests.
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In our group, generally town, though it has been mafia before and according to what I have heard it is commonly mafia in other places.
It's a scum move to use info that was stated by a mod in the signup thread? While true that everything should be in this thread, that does not always happen, and if a mod says something in the signup thread relating to how the game could work, we should not try to use it?
I don't think that is really the best idea. Even with little information, we should try to lynch people we feel is scummy, as that gives us more info that can be used for town investigative roles to base night actions on.
Of the hoopla today surrounding the claim, I find BA the most suspicious. I assumed that Zokar was joking, so BPC's question seemed very reasonable, and it seems like BA was trying to shut down conversation about it. It almost felt like a setup (although that would require mafia daytalk), and even if it wasn't, it felt like BA was trying to stifle conversation.
Vote: Bad Ash
logoutzero
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Updated Vote Count as of post #159:
Drixx {1}: Moar
Vorle {0}: (Goryani, Unvote)
Pyrotechnician {1}: coju
Bad Ash {2}: Goryani, Gwaihir
Zokar {1}: Technomancer
Goryani {2}: Goldtru, Valhauros
Valhauros {1}: Pyrotechnician
Friendly reminder, with 21 players alive, it takes 11 to lynch, 12 to lock. Day 1 will be ending in roughly 5.5 hours, give or take 15-20 minutes. We'll know more as we get closer.
Drixx {1}: Moar
Vorle {0}: (Goryani, Unvote)
Pyrotechnician {1}: coju
Bad Ash {2}: Goryani, Gwaihir
Zokar {1}: Technomancer
Goryani {2}: Goldtru, Valhauros
Valhauros {1}: Pyrotechnician
Friendly reminder, with 21 players alive, it takes 11 to lynch, 12 to lock. Day 1 will be ending in roughly 5.5 hours, give or take 15-20 minutes. We'll know more as we get closer.
BipolarChemist
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I think with how little information we have, it may be better to wait for more, but the case against Ash is pretty decent right now. If we do want to go for a lynch, I'll put a vote out, but for now I shall remain voteless.
