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We thought about that one and you took the bait. Though we have you down more SK than mafia. It was CG against frozzzen and frozzzen is claied scum,. So CG is good to go. So you are scum or SK (consensus SK).

I don't understand a single word of this. Could you rephrase it please?



 
@ Moar: Ok I don't expect you to trust me, but I honestly think this is the best way for us to get mutliple scum in one day. There are a number of people that are scummy enough, that I think we would be stupid to waste this opportunity.

For me there are two choices.
1) Autti, he has really only focussed on OMG this whole game, hasn't done any other scum hunting. To my mind he is scum trying to use OMG as a distraction so.

2) Pancakeman:
The first thing that really rubs me the wrong way about him (and it has been done to death) was the whole OMG is an SK (posts 178, 241, 471, 562).

The second thing is he appears to be rolefishing in a couple of posts (471)

Third his interaction with frozzen (post 555 he appears to be distancing himself but at the same time seeding some doubt on ML), (Post 556, he agrees directly with frozzzen)

Then there was a number of discussions about Solar. Solar appeared to have crepeman pegged as scum and look what happened to him (Post 586, 731) .

I actually wasn't going to spend much time on Pman when I first started this post (and was planning on voting Autti), but having read through his posts and he started to look more and more scummy.

Vote 1: pancakeman
Vote 2: frozzzen
 
It seems a lot of people are having this difficulty lol.
gieb explanation plox so we can decide whether or not to give CG a pass :P
 
Also I apologise for not multiquoting / linking to posts, but at work it is a little hard to do while I am trying to appear like I am working.
 
Second post updated with dead people, vote required and votes cast.

My thanks for the reminder; I had forgot to update the dead dudes.

I will double check them in the morning.
 
I'm sorry, I don't really get this. You're saying solar suggested that CG and frozzzen were on opposing sides? To be honest, I don't remember much of yesterday, so I don't quite remember if they were attacking each other.
I may be wrong is this, but IIRC CG called out frozzzen for his post casting doubt on me (insane, not investigating myself etc). That was the post for me at least, that brought up scum. From that interaction, if frozzzen fought back it could have been a clear indication that they were opposite sides.

(Keep in mind this is all assuming that vote 2 CAN'T be locked - I don't think this was specified in the rules and I can't remember)

Vote 1: frozzzen
Vote 2: frozzzen
I was actually going to post this 3 times, but then thought - no, I can probably wait any see more scum come in and try for the vote2. There is no lock on vote2 so scum can easily and quickly run out (unvote at last second). Vote2 is a scum trap, but I like your double vote to open up the possibility.

I don't understand what you are saying here.
Mafia are going to jump off the vote2 lynch or hesitate to get frozzzen lynched. So, the ones who 'don't/mis/unvote' would easily be pegged as mafia. Maybe it wasn't the best worded sentence, but I wanted to bring out more possible scum with saying they agree w/ the vote2 on frozzzen.

Lovers, maybe? Are not lovers on different sides normally?
I would say it's 50/50 for lovers to be together, or apart. Mafiascum check agrees.
Even if they are, they'll both die, eh?
Yes.

Bc there is no lock on vote2 I see it being a scum trap. Plain and simple. But, I like Phar's idea so far.

Vote 2: frozzzen


 
Ok after briefly looking through all the new day's posts ( darn timesone makes this hard)

i think that we need to vote 1 frozzzen, vote 2 is simply too risky, and vote 2 autti wich will hopefully, at the very least show us who is unwilling to vote for him, giving ML a good list of people too investigate

Vote 1: frozzzen
Vote 2: Autti
 
Lovers, maybe? Are not lovers on different sides normally?

Not lovers.

Even if they are, they'll both die, eh?

Interesting. With the previous quote taken into account about lovers usually being on opposite teams, this sounds like you would be happy with the death of a townie.

There is no lock on vote2 so scum can easily and quickly run out (unvote at last second). Vote2 is a scum trap, but I like your double vote to open up the possibility.

That only works in a LYLO situation. I highly doubt we're to that point yet. Unvoting at the last second broadcasts to the entire town that you're scum, which means you have to have the game sealed in order to do it.

Hey Laarz; notice that the 'alive' count is accurate today? Nineteen alive, nineteen names on the roster. What do you make of that?



 
I'm going to risk once again sounding scummy by taking my vote off of frozzzen for everyone to consider my thoughts before locking frozzzen. Mal, why do think vote 2 is too risky? I know you're town so it would be nice to hear a good, clean explanation of why someone would think so.

If you're unsure of why i'm asking just read my post (not far back) about it. 3 or 4 posts ago by me.
 
Forgot to put it in the post above, and also thought I would mention that I think that if people rush to lock frozzzen on vote 1 that may also provide evidence of scuminess (by avoiding the lynch 2 thing, and preventing us from using vote 1 on someone else)

Unvote 1: frozzzen
 
Seriously? The only thing that came to mind was that he was trying to save me? It didn't at all occur to you that Goryani flipped scum and was trying to cast easy suspicion on me?

That's some pretty one track thinking there. Tell me; are you taking Goryani's thinking and hatching it into a full blown plan?

No, I'm not trying to make it into a full blown plan, and it wasn't the only thing that came to mind, we have a full two days to discuss and I wanted to make sure we had enough time to consider it. I said it was the only Logical thing that came to mind. My two possibilities personally were either that Goryani did the vote to quickly save you (#1) or that he did it to create suspicion, but why would he do this if you would most likely be killed by the blast (#2). I didn't think of the other possibility in which he would take the gamble on omg completely bluffing and using it as an oppurtunity to cast doubt on your town status.

Did his supposive plan work? Yes, it definately made me thing twice about you and I'm sure that others probably had some sort of similar thoughts but I'm not sure where it will go as of yet as there is no definitive answer and no other major indications of you being scummy.


 
That only works in a LYLO situation. I highly doubt we're to that point yet. Unvoting at the last second broadcasts to the entire town that you're scum, which means you have to have the game sealed in order to do it.
True, with all these information my head is just running w/ ideas and I'm missing a few possibilities. I guess it really just comes down to the hesitation.

Hey Laarz; notice that the 'alive' count is accurate today? Nineteen alive, nineteen names on the roster. What do you make of that?
Did I miss something here?

Also, I am leaning to the 'dont rush the lynch'. So, for now, with 45 hours to go to still switch back to a V1 if need be.

Unvote 1: frozzzen


 
Did I miss something here?

Probably; there was a lot going on yesterday. The past two days the vote rules have been off by one. You'd count the names on the roster and there would be 24 (or 22) names, but the lynch rules stated only 23 (or 21) were still alive. We bandied around the idea of treestump, asking people to vote to prove they can, etc (to which nulio still has not voted).

Today, however, the count is accurate. 19 alive, 19 names on the roster.

Second post of the thread said:
Day Three - 21 Alive



Day Four - 19 alive

There's a difference of two. But three people died. omg; Goryani; Solar Ice.

So, the question is - what's the deal with that? /Seinfeld



 
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