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Mafia Game: Cheers/Frasier Theme
- Thread starter Thyiad1
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He totally did. Now what we really need to figure out is if he saved CG because CG is scum, or if it's because he wanted to cast suspicion )but this kind of seems like a waste, doesn't it?)What we really need to figure out is whether or not he did it to frame CG or to save him another night. Can't see what benefit there is to saving him from the lynch unless he is 1 x lynch immune or has some useful role for them. My guess the best bet is to end up lynching CG, though. What do you have to say to defend yourself CG? Uyouve had all night to think about it so it better be a good answer. Especially if your pals helped you out. As expected Gory was just filling the thread with spam to distract us. It'll be hard to tell how much is lying, because he had to do some attacking of his own team, right?I anticipate some people using Gory's posts yesterday to start hate against others, and I also expect these people to be scummy.
thefranklin
Well-known member
Nice findings. I was wondering if there would be a pro town discussion group.
i think Autti has been scummy enough to warrant my vote 2. I plan on glancing over the previous days
posts to see if anything jumps out at me.
Vote 1: frozzzen
Vote 2: Autti
i think Autti has been scummy enough to warrant my vote 2. I plan on glancing over the previous days
posts to see if anything jumps out at me.
Vote 1: frozzzen
Vote 2: Autti
I think we have. 5 mafia at the least, more likely 6. Me thinks 6. And that is with considering that non-town roles are involved.
So the ratio is quite bad originally and there is not much we can do about that.
Only rotting out scum I guess. None is up for a serious voting yet, so we just guess and feel?
MartinLong, kestegs and Noodle in that order are my favourites. Sure there is a SK.
See it now?
He totally did. Now what we really need to figure out is if he saved CG because CG is scum, or if it's because he wanted to cast suspicion )but this kind of seems like a waste, doesn't it?)What we really need to figure out is whether or not he did it to frame CG or to save him another night. Can't see what benefit there is to saving him from the lynch unless he is 1 x lynch immune or has some useful role for them. My guess the best bet is to end up lynching CG, though. What do you have to say to defend yourself CG? Uyouve had all night to think about it so it better be a good answer. Especially if your pals helped you out. As expected Gory was just filling the thread with spam to distract us. It'll be hard to tell how much is lying, because he had to do some attacking of his own team, right?I anticipate some people using Gory's posts yesterday to start hate against others, and I also expect these people to be scummy.
On scum list. Solar said that it was either CG or frozzxen for lynch. Looks like frozzzen is scum, so that wall of text is scum.
MartinLong
New member
He totally did. Now what we really need to figure out is if he saved CG because CG is scum, or if it's because he wanted to cast suspicion )but this kind of seems like a waste, doesn't it?)What we really need to figure out is whether or not he did it to frame CG or to save him another night. Can't see what benefit there is to saving him from the lynch unless he is 1 x lynch immune or has some useful role for them. My guess the best bet is to end up lynching CG, though. What do you have to say to defend yourself CG? Uyouve had all night to think about it so it better be a good answer. Especially if your pals helped you out. As expected Gory was just filling the thread with spam to distract us. It'll be hard to tell how much is lying, because he had to do some attacking of his own team, right?I anticipate some people using Gory's posts yesterday to start hate against others, and I also expect these people to be scummy.
I thought about this. A few of you here know Gory in mafia much better than I do.
So, would it be in Gory's MO to do a framing like this? I see that he is a good player, but to what degree? Some insight would be nice. The latter is obviously that Gory switched to protect CG.
Now another thought, is if Gory is a good/smart player, do you think that he would do the obvious and protect his scum brother? On the other hand, by switching, he would have saved CG from the kill (definite) and then hopes that CG can convince and prevent a lynch on himself (possible kill).
I recall someone recommending me to investigate someone like CG - to investigate players with consistent play styles since it can be hard to decipher alignment on vet-players and it made a lot of sense since I do not know these players that well.
Thinking outloud here, I don't have any preference to one theory yet.
MartinLong
New member
It's a good idea, but would be tough. We will need to work hard to figure out some of the less obvious ones (IMO, Gory and Frozzen were obvious).Nice work on getting another scum martin, (this game is going a bit better than the last one, where we missed everytime with cop).
However, should we use Vote 2 on frozzen and try to get one of his buddies with vote 1?
Good thing we have 48 hours to go.
Caluin Graye
New member
The only logical thing I could think of is that CG is scum. Why would he want to stop the blast on anyone except his teammates?
Seriously? The only thing that came to mind was that he was trying to save me? It didn't at all occur to you that Goryani flipped scum and was trying to cast easy suspicion on me?
That's some pretty one track thinking there. Tell me; are you taking Goryani's thinking and hatching it into a full blown plan?
What do you have to say to defend yourself CG? Uyouve had all night to think about it so it better be a good answer.
You'll have no choice but to lynch me now. Much like Goryani expected to happen.
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I am not at all surprised that frozzzen flipped scum. Willing to bet that pancakeman, Jcakes, and Autti are all buddies with him. Possibly pharphis too, but I'm near sold on the first three.
Vote 1: frozzzen
MartinLong
New member
@ MartinLong & all - Sorry the last second vote caused me a bit of panic.
I've updated the relevent post but omg was a Village Idiot.
Sorry for the triple post, but I saw VI in the SP game too, but on mafiascum VI is a derogatory term for someone who says stupid things. The win condition for VI is to get lynched right? So it is synonymous w/ Jester. Just trying to figure it all out here - w/ so many roles around it can get confusing.
I am Gertrude Moon. A watiter. Pro town.
We waiters are masons. We have talked at night and there are (were) 5 of us. We have talked about claiming if one of us dies and majority decision was that one of us goes out. I was first in the list there and Solar second. Solar got killed. So I go and claim. See post 254 for "5 masons". Disregard the 2nd to lat sentence, i had to hid it.
I see, nice. I remember thinking it odd you thought there were only 5 mafia, didn't think to look for breadcrumbs.
Ok, after day end yesterday I was fairly confused, even if omg was bluffing why would goryani (being antitown) take the last vote on omg knowing that he could potentially stop the blast on CG. The only logical thing I could think of is that CG is scum. Why would he want to stop the blast on anyone except his teammates?
That is definitely my first thought, that CG was scum and Gory tried to save him. But that only really works if mafia is on the edge of winning, which seems impossible with the number of people remaining. On the other hand, it could be he wanted to throw suspicion on CG. Gory is known for being a very smart player, and that could just be his tactic to make us waste a lynch on a townie.
CG, did you think Gory was bluffing? Did you think omg was lying about his role, either survivor or kill part?
Not from my view. From what I looked into - OMG was a Jester
Jester: Wins if lynched, or in other variations - wins if lived passed day X.
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Jester
I couldn't find any role to match up w/ what OMG said. Surprise, surprise, OMG lied - I think.
Thy, is there a reason you did not post OMG's role? Can you confirm her was Jester?
Wow, this game just gets more and more interesting with the roles. I need to think this through a bit more.
Now for my death analysis:
Each night there were 2 deaths, tonight there is one.
I presume the mafia put a hit on me, thinking that the doc wouldn't save me (check outted Cop, hidden cop circular logic). I was protected, so the kill did not happen.
Now, for my investigations: Frozzen turned foe. Therefore,
Vote 1: frozzzen
Just a thought, but should we try to lynch frozzzen by vote 2? The proven cop got a guilty verdict, I don't see us having a better target to use the vote 2 on today.
Vote 2: frozzzen
Nice work on getting another scum martin, (this game is going a bit better than the last one, where we missed everytime with cop).
However, should we use Vote 2 on frozzen and try to get one of his buddies with vote 1?
Are you insane? How do you think a vote2 can go through with 5 townies an 1 neutral dead??
thefranklin
Well-known member
Nice work on getting another scum martin, (this game is going a bit better than the last one, where we missed everytime with cop).
However, should we use Vote 2 on frozzen and try to get one of his buddies with vote 1?
My scum radar is going berserk over this post. I can see this leading to one of your scum buddies making a "rushed" post and misspelling frozen's name. And because it was discussed yesterday.
Caluin Graye
New member
CG, did you think Gory was bluffing?
I don't understand this question. It's obvious to me what Goryani was trying to accomplish.
Did you think omg was lying about his role, either survivor or kill part?
I stated multiple times that I was near certain that omg was bluffing. At least about the kill part. The survivor part didn't matter to me, so I didn't put much thought into it. He claimed not-town, therefore he needed to be lynched.
