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[Kestegs]

Ok, so the only thing SI ignored coming from you was what you wrote below?

What response are you looking for? This seemed more like a personal attack than trying to get information from him. Can't say I blame SI for ignoring it.

Well obviously he's ignored half of what I've said since then....but yea.

The response I wanted was a legitimate reason why he was pulling stuff out of his *** trying to make me look scummy.

 

[MartinLong]

Well obviously he's ignored half of what I've said since then....but yea.

The response I wanted was a legitimate reason why he was pulling stuff out of his *** trying to make me look scummy.

This needs to be seen by more people. No one has questions SI about this reasons.

 

[Solar Ice]

This needs to be seen by more people. No one has questions SI about this reasons.

How about you go re-read the thread...

 

[coju]

Alright, I'm willing to go along with this.

Vote 1: MartinLong

I'll remember if ML flips town to not vote for moar...

Strange that you quoted that post specifically. Are you setting up a lynch that you can try justify tomorrow, if ML flips town? Or do you already know how ML will flip...

iirc other forumites sited that reason also.

Right. Let's say I make a role-claim of a power role and it's believed, I am saved from a lynch one day, but that night I get NK'd b/c the mafia would think I am a power role. Let's say I role-claim a vanilla role and it's believed, I am saved from day one, someone else gets NK'd that was involved in the disputes with me - the blame is then shifted on me (much like Saths, from Moar above).

Smart decision Solar. Role claiming shouldn't be necessary to be saved from a lynch, b/c for one at this point even if I was a power role, no one would believe it and the lynch would still go through. I've presented my case, many a times, it is the people left to decided what to do.

And to point it out again Moar is VERY confident somehow that I am scum, tomorrow when I flip town, take him up on his offer and give him the next lynch.

Cheers,

If you claimed Cop (just an example) and weren't lynched today, but got NK'd tonight, you would still be saving one townsperson. That's +1-1 town instead of just -2 town if you don't claim and are town.

Unvote 1: kestegs
Vote 2: MartinLong

 

[coju]

Oh, Jcakes, the only thing different about this vote scheme is the vote 1/2 and being at the end of the post. The end of the post thing is hard-ish, but, as omgwtfbbqpwned would say, +1. Thanks Thy!

 

[MartinLong]

If you claimed Cop (just an example) and weren't lynched today, but got NK'd tonight, you would still be saving one townsperson. That's +1-1 town instead of just -2 town if you don't claim and are town.

Unvote 1: kestegs
Vote 2: MartinLong

But the votes wouldn't change, so it would be irrelevant.

I can say this right now, I'm eddie - a alignment cop, searched Mal and he was town. The votes will not change, my statement will be called into question, and due to town incompetence, another townie will be lynched. Your only cops dead, left with little options for other power roles. What this would bring, if true, is that the people trying to get on the Mal lynch train are quite possibly scum, trying to lynch the weakest (re: newest) player, for an easy town kill.

Whose to say what true and what's a lie?

 

[Moar]

I'll remember if ML flips town to not vote for moar...

iirc other forumites sited that reason also.


If you claimed Cop (just an example) and weren't lynched today, but got NK'd tonight, you would still be saving one townsperson. That's +1-1 town instead of just -2 town if you don't claim and are town.

Unvote 1: kestegs
Vote 2: MartinLong

Could you please explain your votes here? Why unvote 1 kestegs when there's no danger to him anyway and then vote Martin with vote 2? That does not make any sense at all. Sorry, looks scummy. Want to be seen voting Martin, but not with the vote all others are using?

 

[Moar]

But the votes wouldn't change, so it would be irrelevant.

I can say this right now, I'm eddie - a alignment cop, searched Mal and he was town. The votes will not change, my statement will be called into question, and due to town incompetence, another townie will be lynched. Your only cops dead, left with little options for other power roles. What this would bring, if true, is that the people trying to get on the Mal lynch train are quite possibly scum, trying to lynch the weakest (re: newest) player, for an easy town kill.

Whose to say what true and what's a lie?

If you are really that, then I am sorry I made the town to vote for you. I do stand true to my word and accept a lynch the day after.
But. Your claim would mean that the town had a cop and an alignment cop. Sounds a bit strange to me. We'll see in a few hours I guess.

 

[Thyiad1]

Tally updated. MartinLong locked.

 

[Pyrotechnician1]

He is dead weight until he proves that he can vote. No votes means he drives up the required number of votes to lynch while not contributing any votes himself. That's the definition of dead weight.

Once he proves that he can vote, I'll be willing to let him be. Until then, I consider him a perfect example of someone we should be using Vote 2 on.

For a vote2 situation fine, but the distraction was to try and make him a vote1 receipiant for the day which did not make sense in our current situation.

I do not know if you are not paying much attention or took it as a joke but it seems very much like nulio can vote, as illustrated in post # 21

Its not a valid vote, as stated by another so it doesn't really prove anything for certain.

 

[MartinLong]

If you are really that, then I am sorry I made the town to vote for you. I do stand true to my word and accept a lynch the day after.
But. Your claim would mean that the town had a cop and an alignment cop. Sounds a bit strange to me. We'll see in a few hours I guess.

Get better analytical skills and hope that town won't vote against you

 

[Kestegs]

This needs to be seen by more people. No one has questions SI about this reasons.

Can you rephrase that, it doesn't even make sense.

Get better analytical skills and hope that town won't vote against you

Yes, she should take advice on how to not get lynched from you

 

[Solar Ice]

What interests me, Solar, is that you're wanting to lynch kestegs for information, but seem only grudgingly willing to do the same for MartinLong. Those same questions you ask about Martin's possible flips can be applied to kestegs - what happens if he flips town? What happens if he flips scum?

And let me add something else here, possibly controversial.

If kestegs is innocent, and it is an if, I would place Goryani on my scum list. Granted it is only day 2 but something bothers me about him already, and I can not quite put my finger on what that is. His playstyle is already somewhat similar to last game when we were scum buddies. He has asked a few questions, though not necessarily very helpful ones. His entrapment of ML on just the OMG numbers, perhaps, is one, his lack of Town questions he usually asks is another. His sudden change of vote to ML from kestegs, when the train was firmly on ML is yet another. It is not enough for me to make a case at this stage, but it is something very much to keep in mind.

MartinLong's flip should at least give us a bit of info to work with. If he is the cop, we are at a severe disadvantage now, possibly to the point of being crippled.

 

[Caluin Graye]

For a vote2 situation fine, but the distraction was to try and make him a vote1 receipiant for the day which did not make sense in our current situation.

Oh, definitely. While I doubt we'll get the numbers required for a Vote 2 lynch on nulio, it'll be interesting to see who refuses to vote. Much like how it's interesting to see who is unwilling to vote for omgwtfbbqpwned today. In broad strokes, scum want to keep the neutrals around as potential allies later as well serving as conversation distractions to hide amongst.

 

[Moar]

Get better analytical skills and hope that town won't vote against you

I still think you are scum. You played like scum. If you aren't, I think it's you playstyle that failed.

 

[Moar]

And let me add something else here, possibly controversial.

If kestegs is innocent, and it is an if, I would place Goryani on my scum list. Granted it is only day 2 but something bothers me about him already, and I can not quite put my finger on what that is. His playstyle is already somewhat similar to last game when we were scum buddies. He has asked a few questions, though not necessarily very helpful ones. His entrapment of ML on just the OMG numbers, perhaps, is one, his lack of Town questions he usually asks is another. His sudden change of vote to ML from kestegs, when the train was firmly on ML is yet another. It is not enough for me to make a case at this stage, but it is something very much to keep in mind.

MartinLong's flip should at least give us a bit of info to work with. If he is the cop, we are at a severe disadvantage now, possibly to the point of being crippled.

It's the post you quoted before (190 i think) for good points. To me it was somewhat contradicting. He's #4 on my list, but well, I might be off a long way on my "analytical skill".

 

[Solar Ice]

Like I said, Moar, it is not enough for me to make a case on Gory. Just something to keep in mind. Make no mistake, I still think that kestegs is scum as hell.

 

[Moar]

We need 3 more vote 2 for omg if Thy is correct. And she most certainly is ( I do not want to get banned for spamming AND doubting her )

 

[Thyiad1]

Doubt away Moar. If I screw up anything, it'll be a vote tally. That's why TC is checking it.

 

[MartinLong]

Yes, she should take advice on how to not get lynched from you

Right. Don't voice your opinion and lurk - that's how you don't get lynched.

And let me add something else here, possibly controversial.

If kestegs is innocent, and it is an if, I would place Goryani on my scum list. Granted it is only day 2 but something bothers me about him already, and I can not quite put my finger on what that is. His playstyle is already somewhat similar to last game when we were scum buddies. He has asked a few questions, though not necessarily very helpful ones. His entrapment of ML on just the OMG numbers, perhaps, is one, his lack of Town questions he usually asks is another. His sudden change of vote to ML from kestegs, when the train was firmly on ML is yet another. It is not enough for me to make a case at this stage, but it is something very much to keep in mind.

MartinLong's flip should at least give us a bit of info to work with. If he is the cop, we are at a severe disadvantage now, possibly to the point of being crippled.

Gory was in the back of my mind for these exact reasons, hope to see something coming from it. He has nit picked quite irrelevant pieces of my posts to make me look like scum (numbers thing, which, had a perfect explanation)

I still think you are scum. You played like scum. If you aren't, I think it's you playstyle that failed.

No, I don't see that. Over these last three games, I have noted that mafia play very well together at pushing the town to secure lynches while keeping low and the town is so quick to be at other peoples throats they lynch their own team. Actually, that is stage by stage the SP game.

You seeing my game as scummy is a bad foreshadow for your end game. No one has been as open to posting and commenting on my previous statements, that gets me in the radar, while all scum is off the radar laughing. It's clear that you don't know what scum play style is.