Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

LozHinge the Unhinged said:
Uh, people ...
If I was mafia, and I was handed a town-aligned item that I knew came from Krazeyivan, why would I continue to mention that I want to vote Krazeyivan, knowing that Krazeyivan would spot this and expose me?

If someone suggests double-bluff, I may fall off the wagon, right here, right now :)
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I believe Loz when he says that he wasn't informed who he received the item from. If Ivan is indeed the scientist, which he has claimed, coupled with the claim that he can make more than one item, Uraj would never tell the person who received the item who it came from because that would establish a confirmed townie block. For example, if A gives item to B, C and D and B,C and D know they received the items from A, and they all claim they received the item, A simply confirms that and you have 4 confirmed townies.

Krazeyivan said:
Well at least your argument is plausible IF you were not told who provided the item, I honestly did not think you would not be told.

I'm still OK with mara as a lynch - his history this game is a bit off (where is the big explanation of your thoughts mara?) Looking at it - he has OK'd TC (who also has some iffy wording on his role this game)

Bad Ash is fingering mara too - IF we lynch mara and he is mafia - then Bad Ash gets a reprieve also his reading of TC is worth squat and we can have a go there too.

Noodle is coasting in my eyes too but I have nothing good or bad to evidence foul play.
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I'm still waiting for a post from Marahumm to tell me if "pro town" is the only result he received. As it was mentioned, this sort of cop flavor would be ideal for a mafia to claim as they already know who is aligned with the town. And even if the person he names to be anti-town of some other faction, they wouldn't be stupid enough to confront that claim.

Krazeyivan said:
The way I see is as follows

1) The lynch on Loz hinges around the premise of whether he was told about the item (specifically where it came from)
2) We have the option of a Mara lynch - which at least would confirm info on Mara and also shed light on two other players namely TC and Bad Ash.
3) Lets not forget those players who seem to be free-wheelin so far - who has the least posts today? Whats our plan for the lurkers?

If we as the town want to win we better get it something sorted quick smart
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I'd rather go for a lurker today. Even though Marahumm would offer us the most information at this point, I still want and tend to believe his claim. But the his flavor makes it feel odd.

Krazeyivan said:
I can confirm its a one shot use item
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So we have two confirmed townies? Unless they are playing us and they are both in cahoots (as mafia).


 
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Caluin Graye said:
Night before last? As you wish.

Asrrin targeted Thundercat.
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I think you should hold of on any further information until such a time comes that you believe your information is relevant. The mafia can benefit from this sorts of information also.


 
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Things are getting interesting.

My thanks to CoolguyBad, who spotted my deliberate use of the word "kit" (and which I promptly forgotten I'd done when the fur started to fly!). My mild and unspoken suspicion of CgB has been banished by this completely Townish act.

Asrrin targetted TC N2 ... interesting.
 
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

LozHinge the Unhinged said:
Things are getting interesting.

My thanks to CoolguyBad, who spotted my deliberate use of the word "kit" (and which I promptly forgotten I'd done when the fur started to fly!). My mild and unspoken suspicion of CgB has been banished by this completely Townish act.

Asrrin targetted TC N2 ... interesting.
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I wanted to point that out but I forgot. Him doing that gave him town credit in my eyes also.


 
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

ThunderCat said:
So we have two confirmed townies? Unless they are playing us and they are both in cahoots (as mafia).
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If they were in cahoots, what mafia role can target a team mate?

I think you should hold of on any further information until such a time comes that you believe your information is relevant. The mafia can benefit from this sorts of information also.
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Agreed. Just trying to be a helper! (And help give evidence that I'm not just trying to coat tail on Ivan's claims, and of the two options I could've given info on, night two is less harmful to town)



 
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

By pointing that out I meant the fact that CoolguyBad mentioned you using the word kit.

[OT]Ivan, this is for you
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Use them wisely[/OT]

Caluin Graye said:
If they were in cahoots, what mafia role can target a team mate?
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You make a good point.


 
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Bad Ash said:
I have very good reasons for voting for marahumm and I think a lot of people are overlooking it.

Ankeli, you are having fun telling TC what to do with his role, so riddle me this batman, lets start simple because nothing else is.

If you were Marahumm, and you were a "cop" who would you have investigated? You have 3 nights, so go.
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A good reason? Plese, do share. I'm not telling TC what to do, I'm suggesting. Besides, he's out of options now.

My investigations would've been 1) me, 2) TC, 3) myself again to be absolutely certain a bus driver or alike didn't change my result, or you, if I was feeling bold enough and felt covered enough.

LozHinge the Unhinged said:
KI is confirmed Town, folks, unless he is some weird variant of anti-town scientist that makes items that help the town. :)
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Despite the whole "kit" incident, this line rubs me the wrong way.

Caluin Graye said:
Night before last? As you wish.

Asrrin targeted Thundercat.
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Your power seems really useful, and I'm unhappy you said this ^ because the mafia must've come to the same conclusion. I'd expect you to die overnight. :(



 
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With these many claims this early, the doc, or any other role that can offer protection will have a hard time. But look at it this way, when someone dies, I have a chance to find out what they did.
 
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Caluin Graye said:
If they were in cahoots, what mafia role can target a team mate?
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Not to mention the almost grandmaster level of thinking it would involved carefully laid out for days with hints of suspicion and preferred lynch targeting.

I'd love to say I'm that good but I so am not


 
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Ankeli said:
Your power seems really useful, and I'm unhappy you said this ^ because the mafia must've come to the same conclusion. I'd expect you to die overnight. :(
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Me too! I'm so excited!

Oh, almost forgot - Unvote: LozHinge the Unhinged

So... are we back to Mara, or Ash?



 
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Till I see a reason not to......

Unvote: LozHinge the Unhinged

Vote: Marahumm

(looking at the list still alive) I see Technomancer not been round much today. Asrrin your general playstyle is a little different this game you seem more subdued normally your a little terrier - I could also make that claim about Ankeli - there is a different style of play in use than what I normally see with you two.
 
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

I'm off to bed.

Time for a suspicion list:

Folks that haven't struck me as Town
Asrrin
Noodle
Zarniwoop
Marahumm
Bad Ash
Technomancer

Folks who strike me as maybe Town:
Goryani
Sathoris
Ankeli

Folks who I think are Town:
CoolbadGuy
ThunderCat
Caluin Graye
Krazeyivan

Nothing is 100% certain, but these are my working assumptions.

Marahumm is a tricky proposition because of unproved Cop claim, and is not yet on my To Lynch list.

Good night!
 
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Ankeli is also playing way too friendly this game.

He's usually got my skull catching fire by now.

I've had a brutal few days. Do we have another full 24 hours?
 
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Ok, well the last 24 hours have EXPLODED, so let me see if I can pick through some of this stuff.

First off,
Unvote: ThunderCat
I'm glad now the votes didn't go through cause now I think you're probably the most likely town person in the game so far. I'm still pretty shocked that we failed a lynch on the same person TWICE, and I was frustrated. I partially blamed myself for the day 2 failure, I wished I had just got on for a couple minutes and voted, and seeing an opportunity to make up for lost time since the mafia failed, I pounced.

@KrazyIvan: I know I haven't been on much, but I can assure you that I almost NEVER post on the forums from 6am-6pm. If Leo was here, she would certainly vouch, others I converse with on the OTF may have noticed as well. I was gonna get back on last night, but by the time I checked, there wasn't anything else really going on so I didn't bother.

On Mara, I'm still not sure, but Goryani made a great point about how if Mara was mafia, he would know that TC was town, so he could safely claim that he read TC as town (unless TC turned out to be SK/Cult). It seems to me that Mara is still a wash.

On KI and Loz making out (:p), it sounds good, at least on the surface. If they were anti-town, they could certainly cook up a scheme to try and clear each other like this though. Now, I've been getting scummy vibes off of Loz the whole game, but I've been scratching my head over why people, including Loz, have been after Ivan so much. I really haven't gotten the first scummy vibe offa him yet. That said, I AM finding it rather "interesting" now that they are public buddies that they are virtually the only ones (besides Sath, blindly flailing about on day 1) to mention me. :/ I'm not convinced they are town, but I'm can't say anything for sure.

Cal, that is a cool power you got there, but you REALLY should have kept that to yourself! You're probably gonna be target numero uno now!

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Well, I'm back to square one. I'm not getting much in the way of strong readings/I'm having a hard time trusting my own judgements at this point. I also think CoolbadGuy very likely town, and I am wondering about Ankeli being so nice and peaceful. :p

I'd also like to hear from Mara.
 
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PEOPLE! Read very carefully these two posts.

Krazeyivan said:
This makes you deffo Mafia without a shadow of a doubt - the reason being is last night, I handed you an item that helps the town that I built - your 100% mafia that leads me to also conclude Bad Ash is not

Unvote: Thundercat

Vote: LozHinge the Unhinged
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Krazeyivan said:
Well I a Scientist I build things that help out the town (I would recommend a cop check me out but I'll probably be NK'd or kidnapped soon after this) I handed a forensic kit to Loz last night -
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At no time did Loz mention he had an item, which is the FIRST thing you do upon getting an item, as the actual item itself is minor, rather it's the possession of the item that is significant, so that a scientist and other item holders can know you are town.

The second point I BOLDED. you guys instantly let Loz go for MENTIONING SOMETHING THAT KRAZEY ALREADY SAID. Loz is as guilty as sin boys and girls.

Every other scummy player has circumstantial evidence on them. Loz has unequivocal PROOF he is scum, and you all are about to let him off the hook. LYNCH HIM!


 
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

LozHinge the Unhinged said:
OK Krazeyivan, you have my undivided attention.

Wanting to vote you, and me voting BA and you handing me an item that helps the town ("that you built"???) makes me mafia?

If you passed on an item to me, you and I would both know what that particular piece of kit does. Agreed?

I cannot make sense of your post, particularly your conclusions. You are certain that BA is not anti-town, then?
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Asrrin, this is what LoZ said before KI had mentioned the forensic kit. He said the word kit pretty much confirming that he did receive it.

Unvote: Lozhinge

Vote: Marahumm

After getting outed he has dissapeared with the exception of maybe one post a day and he has no validity to his statements. People are voting for me because Ankeli said to without substance and it is a mistake.



 
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Technomancer said:
Cal, that is a cool power you got there, but you REALLY should have kept that to yourself! You're probably gonna be target numero uno now!
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I know. I can't wait. Isn't it awesome?

Bad Ash said:
After getting outed he has dissapeared with the exception of maybe one post a day and he has no validity to his statements. People are voting for me because Ankeli said to without substance and it is a mistake.
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To be fair, I probably would've voted for you before Ankeli piped up.

I still think lynching Mara is a wrong move for town, but it's better than some of the alternatives people have thrown out, so I'm willing to play along for now.

Vote: Marahumm



 
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